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Stumbled on this thing.... who needs paint anyway

Kirkham body made in an old Mig factory in Poland. Superformance has sold some cars with Kirkham bodies and it adds about 50K to the price of the car on a 427 s/c. They have also built at least one Daytona Coupe with a polished aluminum body. Cool but I would not want to maintain it.
 

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Kirkham body made in an old Mig factory in Poland. Superformance has sold some cars with Kirkham bodies and it adds about 50K to the price of the car on a 427 s/c. They have also built at least one Daytona Coupe with a polished aluminum body. Cool but I would not want to maintain it.
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Ok its time we start talking about how/ where ya gonna paint that beautiful sanded body? I sold Sikkens for AkzoNobel and was trained on spraying at their educational center in SoCal. Those guys are like dancers the way they move around a body... be sure to put proper Mozart or Bethoven on and for Gods sake are you rolling that into your driveway with all the air moving around. I cant... I just cant... and all those bugs in TX baby! :p:eek:
… Sprayed Awl Grip and Sterling LP on boats/yachts in the LA harbor… when those paints were the real deal… Sometimes on scaffolding hanging out over the water… Never even occurred to me till now… in all those years of doing that …we only had one bug disaster… instead of sanding and spotting… We repainted the entire boat…Just the way we did things…
 

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The "Cobra Killer" was pretty much in name only. 🤣
Word has Chevy was going to come out with a “ King of the Road” named vette.
Info got leaked and back to Shelby, and you know how that turned out.
 

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… Sprayed Awl Grip and Sterling LP on boats/yachts in the LA harbor… when those paints were the real deal… Sometimes on scaffolding hanging out over the water… Never even occurred to me till now… in all those years of doing that …we only had one bug disaster… instead of sanding and spotting… We repainted the entire boat…Just the way we did things…
Yup, I spent time with distributors painting ships and airplanes and you lil monkeys are crazy up in the air spraying like swinging from trees.
 

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Yup, I spent time with distributors painting ships and airplanes and you lil monkeys are crazy up in the air spraying like swinging from trees.
… Certainly a crazy thing to be doing, but in truth, we never even thought about the possibility of falling in the water… on the smaller boats that were in slips, we were using Sears 9” disc sander/grinders…and Rockwell 1/2 sheet plug in sanders .., our prep was so good there was no need to go any finer than 220 grit tri~mite sandpaper… and there was never a need to use a guide, coat … prep…epoxy prime …sand to perfection … then spray with Awl Grip…a true Linear Polyurethane paint…our customers just had to absorb the high cost of the LP paint and the cost of all the sandpaper that we used… the LP paint was $240 a gallon at the time… can’t remember the cost of the Awl Grip epoxy primer….and we used a lot of sandpaper …all this was way before battery operated tools… never even thought about falling in the water with an electric sander in our hand..,yikes😳
 

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Now with the  bed body out of the way, there so much more room for activities! The one job that stopped me in my tracks over a year ago, installing the pedal box assemblies, is back underway again. I'm going to have to fabricate a new pedal pad for the throttle. which should be fun. I think I have some scrap steel laying around somewhere.
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When I built my FFR, I used the fox body pedal box and then added the AC style pads to them. Looked nice.

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When I built my FFR, I used the fox body pedal box and then added the AC style pads to them. Looked nice.

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ya the plastic part of my gas pedal was thrashed from years of different pedal covers being screwed to it. I'm pretty sure I threw it away. I'm going to fabricate a 1.5" wide curved pad out of steel and weld it directly to the pedal lever. Ill paint it black and put some grip tape on it for the minimalistic approach as I don't really see anything out there I like.

Then I already have these for the other 2 pedals
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So I searched my spare steel pile, which isn't very big, and the strap steel I thought I had was there but turned out to be only .75" wide. Home Depot run and I picked a new piece up. $25 for a 3' section of 1.5" 😳 but it is what it is. Then I went to work on very delicately forming the curve into the end of the flat bar with a precision process. That's my anvil just to the right of the flat bar.
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Then I cut the section off and rounded off the corners.
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Next I welded to the throttle lever. I got really good penetration. It was red hot all the way through at my 2 contact points on the back. A piece of slag bounced off and even got really good penetration into my nail bed by way of my fingernail. That'll teach me to weld without gloves! maybe. The angle was very strange because of how the bracket mounts under the dash. I had to tack it and then go check it a few times before actually doing the permanent attachment.

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And then a quick coat of paint. Grip tape to come later.
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Overall I'm extremely happy with how it turned out😎
 

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So I searched my spare steel pile, which isn't very big, and the strap steel I thought I had was there but turned out to be only .75" wide. Home Depot run and I picked a new piece up. $25 for a 3' section of 1.5" 😳 but it is what it is. Then I went to work on very delicately forming the curve into the end of the flat bar with a precision process. That's my anvil just to the right of the flat bar. View attachment 1285078

Then I cut the section off and rounded off the corners. View attachment 1285079 View attachment 1285080

Next I welded to the throttle lever. I got really good penetration. It was red hot all the way through at my 2 contact points on the back. A piece of slag bounced off and even got really good penetration into my nail bed by way of my fingernail. That'll teach me to weld without gloves! maybe. The angle was very strange because of how the bracket mounts under the dash. I had to tack it and then go check it a few times before actually doing the permanent attachment.

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And then a quick coat of paint. Grip tape to come later. View attachment 1285082

Overall I'm extremely happy with how it turned out😎
Looks good. Been there done that🤣
 

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I swore I didn't have that much to do today. guess I was wrong.🤷‍♂️ I only had 30 minutes to play with my Cobra by the time I finished my "easy" day. So I drilled and riveted a couple panels. I need to go and find my boxes that have my control cables and master cylinder/brake lines so I can continue the pedal stuff.
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I swore I didn't have that much to do today. guess I was wrong.🤷‍♂️ I only had 30 minutes to play with my Cobra by the time I finished my "easy" day. So I drilled and riveted a couple panels. I need to go and find my boxes that have my control cables and master cylinder/brake lines so I can continue the pedal stuff. View attachment 1285784 View attachment 1285785
You're on a run baby... dont stop or even think you can only spend 30 minutes on this project.... she's gonna pull you in... I feel it in my bones. same thing happened with my buddy building his. Fun and creative watching her come to life!
 

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Guess what there was more of today? Thats right! rivets!! and in case any of you were wondering why I needed that shallow angle drill, well I was feeling kind of lazy and didn't want to jack the car up in the air and put her on stands.
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And then some fun started! I found my master cylinder and manual conversion kit. I don't think I've ever seen one on a Cobra Car. Most people just utilize their factory braking system or go full Wilwood. The only problem is Wilwood won't fit inside 15" wheels and a vacuum booster doesn't work very well with my "3/4 race cam" 😅 and before anybody says hydroboost, I'm not running a power steering pump either.

The best brakes that can be had on one of these cars inside of a 15" wheel.

"Strange" 4 Wheel Disc, Manual Brake Conversion Kit for Foxbodies('93 Cobra Master Cylinder, Relocation Plate, and new Brake Pedal Geometry) with 86 SVO brakes up front and 94 GT brakes out back.
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Looking good! I originally had 15's on my Cobra and they looked good (original) but ended up swapping them out for 17" Halibrand's. You can actually get 18" and 20" Halibrand's as well now. Better performance tire selection. I am running Willwood's as well.
 

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I wish my master cylinder(s) were out in the open, with Willwood's you have to take off the body to service them.
 

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@Shlbyntro , I did a pair of these a few weeks ago. Wilwood stuff, like you said. 15" Americans on a 65 fastback. Doing matching rears next week. This car has an aluminum head 5.0 with what could be an X-303 cam and a C4.

wow, couldn't find those when building out my kit, I'm not upset tho. I don't think the engine would idle with an automatic behind an Xcam. All my reading has said that Fcams are the most extreme you can do with an auto. The cam I put in my Fairlane is similar to an Fcam and it barely idles.
 

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wow, couldn't find those when building out my kit, I'm not upset tho. I don't think the engine would idle with an automatic behind an Xcam. All my reading had said that Fcams are the most extreme you can do with an auto. The cam Input in my Fairlane is similar to an Fcam and it barely idles.
X-303 with a C4 or C6 with a little stall, 2200 or more, will do okay. I don't know about an AOD, and also don't know about running the vacuum modulators on the earlies. The mass air EFi motors with an X really don't sound that aggressive. Pull it off and put a 4 barrel on and it sounds like you have a fire breather 🤣
 

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Guess what there was more of today? Thats right! rivets!! and in case any of you were wondering why I needed that shallow angle drill, well I was feeling kind of lazy and didn't want to jack the car up in the air and put her on stands. View attachment 1286193 View attachment 1286194

And then some fun started! I found my master cylinder and manual conversion kit. I don't think I've ever seen one on a Cobra Car. Most people just utilize their factory braking system or go full Wilwood. The only problem is Wilwood won't fit inside 15" wheels and a vacuum booster doesn't work very well with my "3/4 race cam" 😅 and before anybody says hydroboost, I'm not running a power steering pump either.

The best brakes that can be had on one of these cars inside of a 15" wheel.

"Strange" 4 Wheel Disc, Manual Brake Conversion Kit for Foxbodies('93 Cobra Master Cylinder, Relocation Plate, and new Brake Pedal Geometry) with 86 SVO brakes up front and 94 GT brakes out back. View attachment 1286195 View attachment 1286196 View attachment 1286197
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Dead pedal?

no plans for one. I've seen a lot of people on the ffr forums will rest their left foot on the chassis tube or sometimes mount a dead pedal to that, but Ive always rested my clutch foot on the floor in front of the clutch pedal or on its heel just to the left of the clutch pedal. I've never used the dead pedals
 

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More rivets today 😶

but I also got the brake pedal and linkage hooked up underneath as well as the clutch cable linkage. Also, my grip tape arrived so the gas pedal is done too.
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What bore diameter did you go with on the master? What pedal ratio? I’m getting ready to build the brakes on my nova.
 

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I’ve got strange on the rear and the Alston front end came with willwood
 

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Rivets are done! was for sure the most difficult panel as I had to measure and mark out all my rivet point and then drill them blind hoping to hit the 3/4" square tube that was running underneath.
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And since @HubbaHubbaLife wants to see something else, I give you a giant hole!
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And would you look at that little Easter egg I found, they built the Cobra's food pyramid into the fastener pattern of the trunk panel!
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Rivets are done! was for sure the most difficult panel as I had to measure and mark out all my rivet point and then drill them blind hoping to hit the 3/4" square tube that was running underneath. View attachment 1289980 View attachment 1289981 View attachment 1289983

And since @HubbaHubbaLife wants to see something else, I give you a giant hole! View attachment 1289984 View attachment 1289985









And would you look at that little Easter egg I found, they built the Cobra's food pyramid into the fastener pattern of the trunk panel! View attachment 1290006
My name is HubbaHubba and I approve of this hole
 

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I lied, there were a couple more rivets. scoop is sanded and mounted to the hood. I decided to go with the painted over rivet styling on the scoop so there won't be any blending. Getting the scoop centered was a nightmare, there wasn't a square edge on the scoop or the hood to measure from anywhere. Ultimately I had to set it on top of the body with rough measurements and use dead reckoning before drilling the holes.
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I lied, there were a couple more rivets. scoop is sanded and mounted to the hood. I decided to go with the painted over rivet styling on the scoop so there won't be any blending. Getting the scoop centered was a nightmare, there wasn't a square edge on the scoop or the hood to measure from anywhere. Ultimately I had to set it on top of the body with rough measurements and use dead reckoning before drilling the holes. View attachment 1290339 View attachment 1290340
Dead reckoning..... Hee Hee.... cant recall if my buddies had a scoop but I like idea
 

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It's a secure garage, but there was a group targeting downtown condos several months ago.

They'd steal a luxury car then follow a resident under the security door.

I lost golf clubs from one of my storage units.

The boot might be a insurance thing?

If he was smart, he'd not keep the door-opening RFID tag in the car.

Someone stealing the car would then need to follow a resident out.

And residents are pretty sensitive to that now.
 

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It's a secure garage, but there was a group targeting downtown condos several months ago.

They'd steal a luxury car then follow a resident under the security door.

I lost golf clubs from one of my storage units.

The boot might be a insurance thing?

If he was smart, he'd not keep the door-opening RFID tag in the car.

Someone stealing the car would then need to follow a resident out.

And residents are pretty sensitive to that now.
Following out is not very uncommon. The driver just has to look the part. Someone with the skills and gear to get a car like that though, would probably also have the ability to clone an RFID transponder from another car in the garage, and make a go out of it. It always amazes me how advanced the crooks are these days.
 

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Following out is not very uncommon. The driver just has to look the part.

Wonder if the owner would have a case against a resident who allowed a thief to follow him/her out (after many warnings not to)?

Someone with the skills and gear to get a car like that though, would probably also have the ability to clone an RFID transponder from another car in the garage, and make a go out of it. It always amazes me how advanced the crooks are these days.

Or just open another car and peel their tag off.

I suppose one can only hope to slow them down.
 

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I suppose one can only hope to slow them down.
From what I've seen, that is the only hope. Make it more difficult than your neighbors'. If it's a ride like that, it's targeted because it is what it is, color and model. Then you just hope to trip them up enough for a witness or a cop.
 
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