Ford cuts Lightning payments in half…

[pronstar]

…you just need to make twice as many.

Bi-weekly payment

 

[Outdrive1]

I like the way it looks personally

 

[CLdrinker]

I like the way it looks personally

It does look good but that whole cost and range are horrible.

 

[JDKRXW]

Standard range battery.
BIL has one with the extended range and according to him, he'd be screwed without it (he's on the road quite a bit).

 

[TimeBandit]

Canada does things correctly, they list the interest rate on a Lease.

That's $636. per month in high value 'merican dollars.

 

[pronstar]

Standard range battery.
BIL has one with the extended range and according to him, he'd be screwed without it (he's on the road quite a bit).

Is he on the daily, weekly or bi-weekly payment plan

 

[Racey]

Is he on the daily, weekly or bi-weekly payment plan

No shit, i read that and was like "Are you fuckin kidding me"

 

[rivermobster]

No shit, i read that and was like "Are you fuckin kidding me"

X2

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

$800/month for a F150 XLT 2 wheel drive seems a bit pricey.

 

[bowtiejunkie]

A co-worker’s uncle parked his Lightning and bought a Rivian. The usable range (not towing) with the Lightning was so bad, the uncle was constantly worried he’d be stuck with no place to charge.

 

[Deckin Around]

$800/month for a F150 XLT 2 wheel drive seems a bit pricey.

I didn’t even know they made half ton trucks under $50,000 anymore Not otd anyway. Our company 4x4 trucks are $900+ on 6 year loans!!

 

[pronstar]

$800/month for a F150 XLT 2 wheel drive seems a bit pricey.

Cmon…thats only $27/day and everyone can afford that

 

[riverroyal]

Canada.
Mid $600s here is actually good

 

[CLdrinker]

So after paying like 45k you have to give it back? Lmao.

Yup that’s way better than my f250
60k OTD and I own it. Hahaha idiots.

 

[Hypnautic]

They are bi-weekly payments--not bi-monthly.
So that is $399 x 26 payments. So there will be 2 months where you make 3 payments.
So it averages out to $864.50/mo

Thats a big nope from me. Dont understand getting a truck that you cant actually use as a truck?

 

[DRYHEAT]

When do the 30 year payment plans start for trucks? Sign me up!

 

[bowtiejunkie]

When do the 30 year payment plans start for trucks? Sign me up!

As soon as the auto makers take away the purchase option

 

[DRYHEAT]

As soon as the auto makers take away the purchase option

I think it would just be nice if they built a vehicle that wouldn’t break down before the payments ended.

 

[samsah33]

Wow, that single ad alone has 109 footnote references and disclosures... Corporate lawyers must have a lot of job security up there.

 

[rrrr]

No shit, i read that and was like "Are you fuckin kidding me"

But now the prospective lessor will have enough money left over to rent a set of tires and wheels!

 

[rrrr]

A co-worker’s uncle parked his Lightning and bought a Rivian. The usable range (not towing) with the Lightning was so bad, the uncle was constantly worried he’d be stuck with no place to charge.

Bought a Rivian? He must be a slow learner. He ditched the 275 mile range Lightning for the 300 mile range Rivian.

 

[WTR&PWR]

Cmon…thats only $27/day and everyone can afford that

A little over a dollar an hour. 24 hour 7 days a week you’re paying.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Might as well get the Platinum package. Only $9399 down, $1215 monthly payment for 4 years. Max mileage 10,500... Then you have to give it back.

Unbelievable....

 

[Kachina26]

Wow, that single ad alone has 109 footnote references and disclosures... Corporate lawyers must have a lot of job security up there.

Nope, AI will be doing their work.

 

[TPC]

We've extended test driven the Ford Lightning several times. Impressive as hell. Love that truck and it's easy to look at. Our Ford dealer is over-flowing with them, but we're holding out for the 400/450 mile range GMC EV.

It's a weird feeling when you are on the road, ya roll into a charging station and all the chargers are not working. Unlikely that will happen with Tesla chargers. It's a BFD that soon everyone, all makes can use them. On top of that, the North American charging cable and handle is a BFD as well.

Our 95 lb daughter may weigh 90 lbs after mussel fucking the current J1772 CCS Charger cables. The North American Standard cable eliminates that hassle.

Coming back from 'Vegas yesterday Electrify America installed a half dozen 350 KW chargers in their Baker trailer accommodating pull thru sites. Units are the Scandinavian built super fast, super reliable chargers. Same in Quartzite and lots of other locations across the USA. Kempower and ABB are really good chargers. Signet built chargers are a fuckstory. I'd say half the time, no,,,, more than that they fail and flat don't work.

Baker is now very reliable and backed up with mega watt rated power walls aka Battery Energy Systems (aka BESS) built with recycled Tesla car batteries. When the outside power grid goes down, station limits charging to 80% and has proven reliable as a hammer, never turned anyone away since modernizing and expanding. It has burned to the ground in the past. 100 new in California alone and growing.

Both the Baker EA and Tesla Stations are Tesla battery powered charged by solar and the Power Company Tie. Reports are solar alone has been supplying over 80% of both stations electrical needs even in power outages. They were 2.5 megawatt storage each but that has been vastly increased.

Baker Tesla charging station Tripled in size, added mega watt chargers and a half dozen level 2 free chargers (aka destination charger hold that thought) and more TESLA pull thru slots are going in as you read this.

The 20 minute 20% to 100% charging times are here for most new vehicles, some vehicles much faster, a few slower and longer. The Krauts were way behind in EV charging software but are now taking the lead. The Porsche Taycan has amazing, unique fast charging and will be the benchmark for other MFGs for the moment. Starts out slow and ramps up to 100% charging to 100% charged.

The wife's EV6 got 5 software updates. Now In hot weather the AC cools the batteries, in cold weather the AC heats the batteries. Heat pump AC/heat BTW. Charging used to slow way down from 80% to 100% but now kicks ass full blast the entire charge.

It's a new ERA.
EVs would do better if the Govt would stay outta' it.
Forcing EVs is only hurting everyone in so many ways.

I was having drinks last week and some custom Hot Rod shop owners sat next to us at the bar.
They mentioned a serious coalition was formed with other concerned businesses and is fighting Newsom's forcing EVs on us.
That was good news along with they gave the wife free shop T Shirts. Cute girls looks is sometimes better than money.

 

[Angler]

We've extended test driven the Ford Lightning several times. Impressive as hell. Love that truck and it's easy to look at. Our Ford dealer is over-flowing with them, but we're holding out for the 400/450 mile range GMC EV.

It's a weird feeling when you are on the road, ya roll into a charging station and all the chargers are not working. Unlikely that will happen with Tesla chargers. It's a BFD that soon everyone, all makes can use them. On top of that, the North American charging cable and handle is a BFD as well.

Our 95 lb daughter may weigh 90 lbs after mussel fucking the current J1772 CCS Charger cables. The North American Standard cable eliminates that hassle.


Coming back from 'Vegas yesterday Electrify America installed a half dozen 350 KW chargers in their trailer accommodating pull thru sites. Units are the Scandinavian built super fast, super reliable chargers. Same in Quartzite and lots of other locations across the USA. Kempower and ABB are really good chargers. Signet chargers are a fuckstory. I'd say half the time, no,,,, more than that they fail and flat don't work.

Baker is now real reliable and backed up with mega watt rated power walls aka Battery Energy Systems (aka BESS). When the outside power grid goes down, station limits charging to 80% and has proven reliable as a hammer, never turned anyone away. 100 in California alone and growing.

Both the Baker EA and Tesla Stations are Tesla battery powered charged by solar and the Edison Tie. Reports are solar alone has been supplying over 80% of both stations electrical needs even in power outages. They were 2.5 megawatt storage each but that has been vastly increased.

Baker Tesla charging station Tripled in size, added mega watt chargers and a half dozen level 2 free chargers and pull more TESLA thrus are going in as you read this.

It's a new ERA.
It would do better if the Govt would stay outta it.
Forcing EVs is only hurting everyone in so many ways.

But there is a gas station on most exits. Just say no to EVs.
I'll never buy into it. Hybrid, maybe.

 

[Angler]

…you just need to make twice as many.

Bi-weekly payment

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It's amazing that Ford thinks most people are that stupid,
or are there that many stupid people that will fall for the bi-weekly payments?

 

[TPC]

But there is a gas station on most exits. Just say no to EVs.
I'll never buy into it. Hybrid, maybe.

Driving to Vegas and back this past week we saw 3 new gas stations going in. Travel stops. Made me feel good even at $6 a gallon.
EVs will be supplemental, the USA won't be switching over to EVs even in our kids lifetimes.
Authoritarian Liberals are all smoke and mirrors and the media backs their bullshit up.
Sad times.

 

[Angler]

Driving to Vegas and back this past week we saw 3 new gas stations going in. Travel stops. Made me feel good even at $6 a gallon.
EVs will be supplemental, the USA won't be switching over to EVs even in our kids lifetimes.
Authoritarian Liberals are all smoke and mirrors and the media backs their bullshit up.
Sad times.

I'm waiting for the major cluster, when trucking companies are required to have a percentage of their fleet electric.

 

[TPC]

Wife attended a conference at the Anaheim Convention center 2 weeks ago.
Afterword, she rolled to the EA EV chargers on Katella and State College and they were all out of service though the EA app said working and available.
Can't let the cars EVs charge get below 40% for situations like this when you are over an hour away. Ya need the extra power to either get home or to find a charger that's working.

She rolled over to the chargers at the Block and was able to get juiced up. It borders a bad neighborhood.
Didn't have her German Shepard with her, just her .38.

There has been an occasion where the dog has scared off weird-O's at the chargers.
A growl and a bark that slows down the rotation of the earth.
Should not have to deal with this.

 

[TPC]

I'm waiting for the major cluster, when trucking companies are required to have a percentage of their fleet electric.

Didn't Jerry Brown sign something that it has to be 100% in Cali? That technology is in its infant stage. No place to charge that volume of vehicles at a megawatt per charger. That's an astronomical electrical demand.
Cali is fucked up.

 

[Angler]

Didn't Jerry Brown sign something that it has to be 100% in Cali? That technology is in its infant stage. No place to charge that volume of vehicles at a megawatt per charger. That's an astronomical electrical demand.
Cali is fucked up.

Newscum did.

https://www.ccjdigital.com/regulations/article/15382440/california-mandates-electric-trucks

 

[TPC]

It's amazing that Ford thinks most people are that stupid,
or are there that many stupid people that will fall for the bi-weekly payments?

We paid $27.500 for our Can Am Max in Arizona about 2 years ago.
Berts is asking way over $42K for them now.
It's the payment buyers that are going in, get the adrenalin buzz and buy before the blush wears off.

Can Am R and the big RZR asking $55K.
Again, payment buyers must be holding up these prices.

 

[Angler]

I live close to Bert's. Those guys charge an extra 10% over retail for parts.
I bought 2 Sea Doos from there, a new 1998, and a 2008 215 hp GTX Limited, that someone on a demo ride put it up on the rocks.
Screwed up the intake crate, plus a few scars on the bottom. Bought after Labor Day back in 2010 for 4.5k off sticker, no fees,
with 1 hour on the meter.

 

[was thatguy]

I’ve heard that’s about the same as a monthly Havasu electric bill?

 

[JJ McClure]

It's amazing that Ford thinks most people are that stupid,
or are there that many stupid people that will fall for the bi-weekly payments?

Yes

 

[17 10 Flat]

The wonderful news is that Ford is eliminating 3 of their ICE vehicles end of 2023. The push continues.

 

[OCMerrill]

Afterword, she rolled to the EA EV chargers on Katella and State College and they were all out of service though the EA app said working and available.
Can't let the cars EVs charge get below 40% for situations like this when you are over an hour away. Ya need the extra power to either get home or to find a charger that's working.

She rolled over to the chargers at the Block and was able to get juiced up. It borders a bad neighborhood.

City of Anaheim is a little different. They buy their own power along with, sewer, trash, and nat gas. So on a hot day if the city didn't buy enough power for the day then services get cut so the Mouse (massive city income) can survive.

The Block is in the City of Orange. SCE so Business as usual.

 

[HST4ME]

They just had to get the "bi" in there somehow

 

[bowtiejunkie]

Bought a Rivian? He must be a slow learner. He ditched the 275 mile range Lightning for the 300 mile range Rivian.

The range he was getting was no where near the 275 miles. Whether the Rivian is a better choice, you know’s. Not my money wasted on overpriced subpar range EV vehicles.

 

[Big B Hova]

Is he on the daily, weekly or bi-weekly payment plan

Only $21.20 a day.
Only .88 cents an hour to lease.

I can afford .88 cents an hour!

 

[pronstar]

Only $21.20 a day.
Only .88 cents an hour to lease.

I can afford .88 cents an hour!

…and if minimum wage is $15/hour, i can afford to buy several with money left over

 

[OCMerrill]

…and if minimum wage is $15/hour, i can afford to buy several with money left over

Especially since every new EV owner thinks electricity is free.

Ev's are very comparable to the phrase "Fuck around and find out."

 

[rivermobster]

Especially since every new EV owner thinks electricity is free.

Ev's are very comparable to the phrase "Fuck around and find out."

BNAG!!!

 

[sintax]

When do the 30 year payment plans start for trucks? Sign me up!

Maybe once they start making trucks last longer than 5-6 years again...

 

[sintax]

Especially since every new EV owner thinks electricity is free.

Ev's are very comparable to the phrase "Fuck around and find out."

listen.....

electricity is free, the production of it is always 100% zero emissions throughout the full chain, the battery chemistry is 100% mined by ethical and environmentally responsible means (def not done in pits in 3rd world countries, mined by children dying of chemical poisoning or cave-ins) , and produced and recycled with zero waste or byproducts!

 

[OCMerrill]

listen.....

electricity is free, the production of it is always 100% zero emissions throughout the full chain, the battery chemistry is 100% mined by ethical and environmentally responsible means (def not done in pits in 3rd world countries, mined by children dying of chemical poisoning or cave-ins) , and produced and recycled with zero waste or byproducts!

Its only our air quality our super helpful government is interested in.
If shifting all the chemicals, toxic pollutants, proliferation of child labor, excessive pollution from strip mining is out of sight....then its easier to make it out of mind also.
The energy fairy just drops the batteries off for a small fee.

Then there is "Desert center's" MASSIVE solar farm. Yes you can see it but its good for the environment even though solar panels only make peak power for maybe 4 hrs a day. Dont fret what happens to the solar panels at the end of 20 years because we can just use them to fill back up the strip mines. Shipping not included so we pay that also.

Then there is the Natural gas turbines in Long Beach that provide a shit ton of power, soon to be shut off because all the sudden were natural gas haters.

I am signing up to live on mars when the time comes....after they figure out a zero carbon rocket to get me there.

 

[was thatguy]

listen.....

electricity is free, the production of it is always 100% zero emissions throughout the full chain, the battery chemistry is 100% mined by ethical and environmentally responsible means (def not done in pits in 3rd world countries, mined by children dying of chemical poisoning or cave-ins) , and produced and recycled with zero waste or byproducts!

I’ve said it all along.
There may be reasons for this or that commuter to own an EV. Or maybe just for the fun of having a performance EV.
Hey I rode in an S with Napanut and it was great!
But there is NOTHING environmentally sound or earth saving about electric cars.
It’s a continuation of our failed energy direction that we chose over 100 years ago, just a slightly different way of converting petroleum to motion.

 

[Markus]

It does look good but that whole cost and range are horrible.

Range is much better in cordless mode.

 

[shan]

I'm going to call this a clear sign that nobody wants them. The OEMs are already losing their asses on them with government subsidies.