Entry Level Performance Boat?

[4Waters]

Does a Hallett 210 need a 520 to go 60 mph?

I have a 21' Caliber 1 with a 305 and I hit 67 on GPS with gear full tank pops and I at just under 4000' elevation

 

[BigAl96]

Does a Hallett 210 need a 520 to go 60 mph?

I spoke with nordic/hallet about a new 255 with a 520 last year and they said that'd be a high 70s mid 80s boat. I'd think a 210 would be well into the 80s or 90s with the same power

 

[Bakotrash]

My frirst boat was a Hallett Vector with a bone stock 330HP BBC and a Bravo One. Bought it for 10k, used it for a few years, sold it for double. I see that there is a Hardin Marine spalshed Hallett Vector for sale on Offerup for 17k, located in West Covina, CA. Seems like a killer deal for a first timer.

https://offerup.com/item/detail/6696e99b-a8c4-346b-afd8-9a55d21ecda9?_branch_match_id=1142494691299935688&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAA8soKSkottLXz09LSy0qLdBLztd3TzXJNQ3MKzQpTwIAUmYm4B4AAAA%3D

There is one in Kingman for 9k.

 

[Livewire Fabworks]

I spoke with nordic/hallet about a new 255 with a 520 last year and they said that'd be a high 70s mid 80s boat. I'd think a 210 would be well into the 80s or 90s with the same power

Yeah, I think they were maybe hoping that or going none gps lol. 255 with a 520 is a low to mid 70's boat. They had the new 255 with a 520 in it at Hallets in Havasu and I talked to the guy that was the GM at the time and he said they had it up to 72 mph. Granted I think they were running a 24 pitch prop and could pick up a couple of mph but I have a 255 with a 540 and the best I have seen is 76mph with a four blade 26 pitch. 75mph with a 25 labbed 5 blade all on gps.

My guess would be high 70's to mid 80's in the 210.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Yeah, I think they were maybe hoping that or going none gps lol. 255 with a 520 is a low to mid 70's boat. They had the new 255 with a 520 in it at Hallets in Havasu and I talked to the guy that was the GM at the time and he said they had it up to 72 mph. Granted I think they were running a 24 pitch prop and could pick up a couple of mph but I have a 255 with a 540 and the best I have seen is 76mph with a four blade 26 pitch. 75mph with a 25 labbed 5 blade all on gps.

My guess would be high 70's to mid 80's in the 210.

They said it ran 80 on the limiter. Didn’t say size of prop.

 

[Livewire Fabworks]

They said it ran 80 on the limiter. Didn’t say size of prop.
The 210?

 

[FROGMAN524]

Yeah, I don't think so.

The 210 not 255. That’s direct from Nordic/Hallett.

 

[Livewire Fabworks]

The 210 not 255. That’s direct from Nordic/Hallett.

That sounds about right for the 210. Guessing probably a 26p 4 blade. Thanks for the info!

 

[DWC]

Sold!!

That was a great buy. Someone had some outstanding will power to wait for their number.

 

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[Orange Juice]

Friend and I were having a chat and this kind of coincides with the "how does one get into performance boating" thread.

What are suggestions for an entry level performance boat? Let's define performance boat as basic inboard boat runs 60mph on up.

For midwest/ east coast people, i was thinking a cobalt or baja with a 496 and bravo.

For West Coast any of the ultra, caliber 1, etc 23' v bottoms with 496 and bravo.

What say the RDP brain trust?

500 horsepower. Or 65mph +

 

[707dog]

i thought a 18-19' jet with 455, high rise and two 4's was entry level??

 

[707dog]

as stated depending on who you talk too there is different levels to a performance entry style boat. open bow or closed bow , where will you be using it all comes in to play.

 

[evantwheeler]

that 21-23' range is what I will be shopping in. I prefer the look of the closed bow also but with kids and friends, it needs to be an open bow. The look on that one is a little dated for sure. One of the big things is waiting for prices to stabilize a little, Covid is still messing with pricing along with this inflation and the economy is changing rapidly. Two of the three mentioned say prices are softening. I paid cash for the crawler last year so the toy fund is on the lower end right now. I am probably going to sit out for another year or so unfortunately. That also said, the kid is only a kid once - I want him on a boat with the family and friends.

Trade that FJ40 crawler for a closed bow Ultra 23XS!? No toy fund money necessary.

 

[DRYHEAT]

Trade that FJ40 crawler for a closed bow Ultra 23XS!? No toy fund money necessary. View attachment 1195156 View attachment 1195159

Says the guy that’s got four 40s already.

 

[DRYHEAT]

I spoke with nordic/hallet about a new 255 with a 520 last year and they said that'd be a high 70s mid 80s boat. I'd think a 210 would be well into the 80s or 90s with the same power

I don’t know, maybe I misunderstood someone earlier, I thought they said 210 with a 520 was priced at 150 K.

I would like to think you could buy a new small block 6.2 open bow 210 for under 75K but I’m probably mistaken. I guess there’s a lot of people that wouldn’t consider that an entry-level performance boat.

 

[evantwheeler]

Says the guy that’s got four 40s already.

 

[02HoWaRd26]

Small block is probably still $125,000

That new LS based ilmor would be perfect in one.

 

[SJP]

Performance boats? Get into actual boating - this was a cool project my dad and I did; hard to believe 15 years ago.

 

[SJP]

Did someone say Baja? and the shorts to match... LOL

 

[LuauLounge]

Donzi 22ZX 496HO seen mostly from behind

 

[Waterjunky]

Trade that FJ40 crawler for a closed bow Ultra 23XS!? No toy fund money necessary. View attachment 1195156 View attachment 1195159

Nope!!!! The crawler stays..... Too much fun.

 

[clarence]

$20k for a new Waverunner.

63mph (feels faster), easy to maintain, easy to trailer/inexpensive to slip.

Gets you to the beach, keeps your girl close.

No room for freeloaders.

 

[stoker2001]

Laugh, I routinely had the Ultra up to 75 between Cave Creek and Parker.

thought speed limit on trailer was 55

 

[stoker2001]

I have a 21' Caliber 1 with a 305 and I hit 67 on GPS with gear full tank pops and I at just under 4000' elevation

how much boost or spray/NOS?

 

[4Waters]

how much boost or spray/NOS?

None

 

[Shlbyntro]

thought speed limit on trailer was 55

thats only in commiefornia.

and I think 20k for a waverunner is breaking away from that whole entry level thing

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

None

Yep. Mine did the same. 300HP 5.7 Volvo Penta. The boat is just really light.

 

[941Punk]

How about a Cheetah Stiletto?

 

[Backlash]

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I LOVE that flat deck! ^^^

 

[BigAl96]

I don’t know, maybe I misunderstood someone earlier, I thought they said 210 with a 520 was priced at 150 K.

I would like to think you could buy a new small block 6.2 open bow 210 for under 75K but I’m probably mistaken. I guess there’s a lot of people that wouldn’t consider that an entry-level performance boat.

150 is a bit much. I spec'd the 255 out with the 520 and most options you could get and I think it was 157k at the beginning of 2022. Probably closer to 170k now with the big stereo and everything that was gonna be in it. I think they said the 210 starts around 90k but goes up FAST from there

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

How about a Cheetah Stiletto?

Yep. This would rip for $80k

Scorpion, but same bottom.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Good god! This is one of the things that drove me to my vacation a few years ago. Everybody has to have perfect, pristine, relatively big HP or it is crap.

Take my boat for example..... There are similar out there as well. It runs pretty well for its size and power (18' with a 200 and has been to mid-60's, with crazy high slip #'s, begging for a better prop set-up). Very forgivable to drive, reliable, cheap to operate maintain, and buy.

But hey... its not a 400hp 21'+ boat it doesn't even get mentioned in the entry level discussion here.

So many of you have gotten so far out of touch with what affordable, inexpensive, and entry are is ridiculous. How many of you started out in a sub-20' boat? Is it a rough ride now-a-days for the busy lakes? Yes. Do they teach you how to drive a boat for the conditions? Yes.

Friend and I were having a chat and this kind of coincides with the "how does one get into performance boating" thread.

What are suggestions for an entry level performance boat? Let's define performance boat as basic inboard boat runs 60mph on up.

For midwest/ east coast people, i was thinking a cobalt or baja with a 496 and bravo.

For West Coast any of the ultra, caliber 1, etc 23' v bottoms with 496 and bravo.

What say the RDP brain trust?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Good god! This is one of the things that drove me to my vacation a few years ago. Everybody has to have perfect, pristine, relatively big HP or it is crap.

Take my boat for example..... There are similar out there as well. It runs pretty well for its size and power (18' with a 200 and has been to mid-60's, with crazy high slip #'s, begging for a better prop set-up). Very forgivable to drive, reliable, cheap to operate maintain, and buy.

But hey... its not a 400hp 21'+ boat it doesn't even get mentioned in the entry level discussion here.

So many of you have gotten so far out of touch with what affordable, inexpensive, and entry are is ridiculous. How many of you started out in a sub-20' boat? Is it a rough ride now-a-days for the busy lakes? Yes. Do they teach you how to drive a boat for the conditions? Yes.

How many slept in a slide in camper in the back of a truck?

It’s always “Those were best memories of my life in that camper!”

As they haul $300k + in gear out to make the desert like their house. Whatever makes them happy.

 

[Badchoices03]

Good god! This is one of the things that drove me to my vacation a few years ago. Everybody has to have perfect, pristine, relatively big HP or it is crap.

Take my boat for example..... There are similar out there as well. It runs pretty well for its size and power (18' with a 200 and has been to mid-60's, with crazy high slip #'s, begging for a better prop set-up). Very forgivable to drive, reliable, cheap to operate maintain, and buy.

But hey... its not a 400hp 21'+ boat it doesn't even get mentioned in the entry level discussion here.

So many of you have gotten so far out of touch with what affordable, inexpensive, and entry are is ridiculous. How many of you started out in a sub-20' boat? Is it a rough ride now-a-days for the busy lakes? Yes. Do they teach you how to drive a boat for the conditions? Yes.

This is why I said earlier in the post that "entry level" depends on who you talk to...but this is RDP so entry level is $60k and up...

 

[ChrisV]

This is why I said earlier in the post that "entry level" depends on who you talk to...but this is RDP so entry level is $60k and up...

5k here. Best thing I’ve ever bought.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

This is why I said earlier in the post that "entry level" depends on who you talk to...but this is RDP so entry level is $60k and up...

Yes. And obviously I know there are guys that do not follow that, but there are many that do and that almost swarm together on the topic which is quiet off-putting to many newer members and that results in less and less new members which is not good for ol' RD.

 

[Badchoices03]

Yes. And obviously I know there are guys that do not follow that, but there are many that do and that almost swarm together on the topic which is quiet off-putting to many newer members and that results in less and less new members which is not good for ol' RD.

It's the same with every topic here though...

 

[RiverDave]

Good god! This is one of the things that drove me to my vacation a few years ago. Everybody has to have perfect, pristine, relatively big HP or it is crap.

Take my boat for example..... There are similar out there as well. It runs pretty well for its size and power (18' with a 200 and has been to mid-60's, with crazy high slip #'s, begging for a better prop set-up). Very forgivable to drive, reliable, cheap to operate maintain, and buy.

But hey... its not a 400hp 21'+ boat it doesn't even get mentioned in the entry level discussion here.

So many of you have gotten so far out of touch with what affordable, inexpensive, and entry are is ridiculous. How many of you started out in a sub-20' boat? Is it a rough ride now-a-days for the busy lakes? Yes. Do they teach you how to drive a boat for the conditions? Yes.

I wasn’t sure if the OP was talking about new boats or used, which is why I made the comments I did. I figured he meant new

 

[Todd Mohr]

This is an entry level boat in my eyes, 06 Dana 20.5 I/O with a 350 mpi Bravo One. Paid mid 20k a couple years ago, reliable and cheap to run. I’ve seen 62 in gps, next to impossible to burn $100 in fuel in a day.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

This is labeled as a performance boat from the marine board

 

[lbhsbz]

This'll run 65-70 all day long..."biggest" 20' boat out there...these are huge inside, and are big enough to support a new merc V8 4 stroke

1987 20ft Avenger tunnel hull - boats - by owner - marine sale

I am the second owner runs great very rare tunnel hull Outboard Mercury 200 2.5 L 2 stroke oil injection with a bridge port lower 3 different props interior has 1 summer on it this 20ft wide beam...

mohave.craigslist.org

 

[clarence]

So many of you have gotten so far out of touch with what affordable, inexpensive, and entry are is ridiculous.

How old are you?

Are you supporting a family?

How many other hobbies do you have?

Etc.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

How old are you?

Are you supporting a family?

How many other hobbies do you have?

Etc.

You really wana go down that road? I'm 37. Have owned my boat since I was 19. I am married with 4 daughters. 3 of which require constant medical attention, 2 of those with feeding pumps. I have a KX500 as well that I don't get to ride much at all anymore (have had it for about 16 years now) due to finances being too tight for that.

We struggle but we make it work. So I understand what entry level is to the overwhelming majority of the population and what is listed by many as "entry level" are dreams for 95% of the population.

 

[boatnam2]

Seen a 97 ultra for sale in Yuma, nice little performance boat close to 15k.

 

[curtiej10]

For a new one I’d be talking to Todd at Tahiti, or Barron about their little boat or finally Luxe about their new 19.

All three of those came on the scene to be an entry level performance boat

We offer our M-19 in serval different configurations. With an LS Jet we are at $75k and a 300R outboard $80K. We also can sell as a kit boat that you can rig yourself.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

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We offer our M-19 in serval different configurations. With an LS Jet we are at $75k and a 300R outboard $80K. We also can sell as a kit boat that you can rig yourself.

Whose mold/model was that originally?

 

[RiverDave]

You really wana go down that road? I'm 37. Have owned my boat since I was 19. I am married with 4 daughters. 3 of which require constant medical attention, 2 of those with feeding pumps. I have a KX500 as well that I don't get to ride much at all anymore (have had it for about 16 years now) due to finances being too tight for that.

We struggle but we make it work. So I understand what entry level is to the overwhelming majority of the population and what is listed by many as "entry level" are dreams for 95% of the population.

Again I had assumed they were talking about new builds..

If it makes ya feel any better your boat costs more than my current boat..

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Again I had assumed they were talking about new builds..

If it makes ya feel any better your boat costs more than my current boat..

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I know. And that is fair for new entry level.

And btw, I don't know I had been trying to sell mine for a couple months and nothing so...... samesies? Lol!

 

[twocents]

If you're interested in a performance "sleeper" you can probably buy a 10 or 12 year old Stingray 230 (and it actually has a useable forward cabin) for under $25,000 with a MerCruiser 496/385hp and Bravo One drive -- an honest 71-73mph top end.