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On a good note.. the pandemic slowed down the other cult.
On a good note.. the pandemic slowed down the other cult.
On a good note.. the pandemic slowed down the other cult.
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Next Wednesday I go to Stanford for surgery. They are going to cut my neck open from my ear to clavicle and attempt to remove my stent from my carotid and also replace the artery with an artificial one. Thanks for asking.
Nice to see "Don't Care" is catching on at RDP. I should trademark it.Don't care.
Fuck liberals and I can’t wait for this to backfire in their faces.
You need to hook a brother up LOL
I have a hard time with your 90 and 10 maybe in your circles then again 90 % of people nowadays have no common sense and can't think or do the research for themselves they just believe what they hear on the news. Hopefully some network will have the balls to report the truth, oh you guys call it misinformation now my bad.....Put yourself in managements position. Do you lose some of the 90% who agree with vaccinations or lose some of the 10% that does not?
I gave a hard time with your 90 and 10 how about non liberial companies but then again 90 % of people nowadays have no common sense and can't think or do the research for themselves they just believe what they hear 9. The news
I get it.
As I have repeatedly stated no one should be forced to do anything they don’t want whether it be employees or employers, vaccinations or no vaccinations.
And I accept such a position is a tough nut for people on both sides to accept.
Pretty sure no one is still on the “COVID ain’t shit” program. It killed a lot of people. The overwhelming majorly were older and out of shape. “10’s of millions with long term issues.” I’d love to see the source on that. The few dozen people i know that got it walked through it with no issues and zero remaining problems. I have no problem with someone getting the shot. It’s saved the lives of a lot of at risk individuals. I do have a problem making it mandatory. My 23yr old daughter shouldn’t have to get. The risk isn’t worth the reward.The Duality of Man
“Covid ain’t shit. Bring it on. You’ll Vaxxers are a bunch of pussy libbies listening to Covid media hype and being afraid of a little cold or flu virus” It only killed millions and caused tens of millions more to have long term health problems.”But I ain’t afraid of that chit.”
“What? Oh hell no! No ones “Jabbing” me with a tested and proven Vaxx cure. I read on newsmax radio 8 out of 5 Vaxxers got sore arm or a little nausea, so Ain’t no way I’m gonna be guinea pig for a FDA approved emergency Vax running thru my veins, I’ll take my chances with Covid Virus instead, because…..just because…..”
Pretty sure no one is still on the “COVID ain’t shit” program. It killed a lot of people. The overwhelming majorly were older and out of shape. “10’s of millions with long term issues.” I’d love to see the source on that. The few dozen people i know that got it walked through it with no issues and zero remaining problems. I have no problem with someone getting the shot. It’s saved the lives of a lot of at risk individuals. I do have a problem making it mandatory. My 23yr old daughter shouldn’t have to get. The risk isn’t worth the reward.
That seems to be the most infuriating part is that the establishment saying treatment options are no good, making people wait till they’re almost dead for treatment is flipping ridiculous.A lot of those people could've been saved there is a treatment for it that's what infuriates the he'll out of me!!!
They scared people into locking down and not seeking treatment and suppressing doctors that tried to get the truth out.
Again fuck the media Hitler used it and look what happened.
People want to change our history good or bad it's our history and we can learn from it. The democratic party has lost its way it use to be more conservative but hasn't had a conservative president since Kennedy and look what they did to him.....
The Duality of Man
“Covid ain’t shit. Bring it on. You’ll Vaxxers are a bunch of pussy libbies listening to Covid media hype and being afraid of a little cold or flu virus” It only killed millions and caused tens of millions more to have long term health problems.”But I ain’t afraid of that chit.”
“What? Oh hell no! No ones “Jabbing” me with a tested and proven Vaxx cure. I read on newsmax radio 8 out of 5 Vaxxers got sore arm or a little nausea, so Ain’t no way I’m gonna be guinea pig for a FDA approved emergency Vax running thru my veins, I’ll take my chances with Covid Virus instead, because…..just because…..”
Sorry for your loss thanks for posting that story it sucks either way....Cool story. Neighbors 26yr old son got the jab and had cardiac arrest 23 days later and died. No previous cardiac issues. Never! Guess you would just chalk it up as a side effect of the “tested and proven”.
IF the logic is to stand on numerics than the vaccinations given vs problems encountered makes the vaccine look good compared to getting covid.
The reason everyone cares about insurance now is the cost of a NEW big problem added to the system to handle.
R factor is all about the probability of transmission and the window that one is contagious.
Vaccination greatly shrinks the window that one can transmit a disease they may not even know they have.
If you can transmit for 10 days and see 100 peeps across that 10 days then you expose 10 people a day to it.
If you can transmit for 5 days and see the same 100 people across 10 days then the probability of transmission goes way down.
I am fascinated by these statistics. Exactly where did the data that confirms these statements come from? I know all of this has been reported by various groups and agencies, but not a single one has given details on any of this hype and conjecture. Could you quantify how it reduces the risk of contraction? What percentage of the contagious period is actually rendered non-existent? BTW, what is the period that a non-vaccinated person with COVID is contagious?
The facts are: They still don't know how it spreads, how long a person with it is contagious, or even if having had it gives the same or better protection from the virus than the shot. They do know that there are side-effects (some life threatening) that healthy people with less than a 1% chance of dying from the virus with no medical treatment have died from. That can be compared as the shot having the same mortality ratio as the disease. Especially if you use no real number logic like they are.
Have they even isolated and identified the virus yet? Or the transmission mechanism? If they haven't, which they haven't; how can they positively say anyone getting the virus after getting the shot has a mutation of the virus? You have to have positively identified the virus to know if it mutated. They haven't done that yet.
But we can circle back if need be.Come on man that's just misinformation...
it’s already backfiring, the adverse side effects, complications and deaths linked to the “vaccine” are staggering. We’re only a few months in, just sit back and watch the fallout as time presses onward.
I personally will take my odds at unvaxed survival.....odds are I have a 99% chance of living
My con law professor once said, "your right to throw a punch, ends at my right not to get hit. They are conflicting rights."I get it.
As I have repeatedly stated no one should be forced to do anything they don’t want whether it be employees or employers, vaccinations or no vaccinations.
And I accept such a position is a tough nut for people on both sides to accept.
Kaliforniastan....
I am fascinated by these statistics. Exactly where did the data that confirms these statements come from? I know all of this has been reported by various groups and agencies, but not a single one has given details on any of this hype and conjecture. Could you quantify how it reduces the risk of contraction? What percentage of the contagious period is actually rendered non-existent? BTW, what is the period that a non-vaccinated person with COVID is contagious?
The facts are: They still don't know how it spreads, how long a person with it is contagious, or even if having had it gives the same or better protection from the virus than the shot. They do know that there are side-effects (some life threatening) that healthy people with less than a 1% chance of dying from the virus with no medical treatment have died from. That can be compared as the shot having the same mortality ratio as the disease. Especially if you use no real number logic like they are.
Have they even isolated and identified the virus yet? Or the transmission mechanism? If they haven't, which they haven't; how can they positively say anyone getting the virus after getting the shot has a mutation of the virus? You have to have positively identified the virus to know if it mutated. They haven't done that yet.
This is so sad and maddening it unbelievable.Cool story. Neighbors 26yr old son got the jab and had cardiac arrest 23 days later and died. No previous cardiac issues. Never! Guess you would just chalk it up as a side effect of the “tested and proven”.
Yes they have isolated the virus - that is what a viral vector vaccine is - a weakened small bit of the disease incapable of defeating your immune system while triggering it to build antibodies (Johnson and Johnson/ Sputnik are this type of vaccine ) this tech has been used since the 70's calling it new and unproven is laughable.
MRNA does this a more effective way, (noted by the higher efficacy) but its new tech.
The data is all publicly available. Ive posted a bunch in other threads.
We were lucky we had some money - We retained a well known communicable disease expert we're given tons of stats in various preso as well as shown where thy got it wrong.
Britain ran its campaign on R factor you can easily look where the latest data is.
10% of us catch it 1% of those die, whats missing in that is the severity of what sickness can bring.
If you dont die but spent a month on a ventilator and will only ever recover to 50% but you didnt die, this is a small % as well.
Transmissibility varies, and I cant recall all the timetables I have to follow after symptoms, or declaration.
Im not sure you and I have chatted but I've no love of vaccination and have plenty of reasons to fear it - some close poeple to me had incredibly serious problems they are now labeled by the VAXX crowd and it irks sth shit out of me because they had real problems.
Overyone has two choices - Risk Covid and what it may bring, or risk the vaccine and what it may bring.
We haven't spoken before and I definitely agree with your last statement. It is the people trying to remove either one of those choices that bother me. And the more one side leans on partial truth or misinformation, the more I tend to lean the other way.
From what I've been told by a couple immunologists, the pure virus has not been isolated. Extracting samples with multiple bacteria that will trigger COVID is not the same as isolating the virus. They are not even 100% positive what the injections actually do in human samples they are looking at big picture results and trying to extrapolate specific claims. When the virus is not 100% isolated before testing, it becomes unclear what other factors present are increasing or mitigating the effects of the sample when introduced into test situations. Thus the fear of many immunologists over the so called vaccines against a virus that doesn't meet the tried and true definition of a virus, as a vaccine that does not produce the tried and true definition of a vaccine.
Nobody should be able to force free citizens to participate in a clinical experiment.
This is so sad and maddening it unbelievable.
And there’s no answers to come. Numerous calls to CDC and other health departments and they JUST.DON’T.CARE!!!!
Thing is the risk numbers are still on the vaccines side when you munch the data, by at least one decimal place, if not more.
Not in AZDo you guys really think printing a fake card will work, lol?
You do realize CA and other States have health department QR verification codes that are sent to your phone from the State?
We were already told to leave our cards at home, they want electronic verification.
The vaccines seem to be a net positive for "people" but that is not always the case for individuals. Every individual has a different risk equation. Regarding your statement above, it is far too broad. Is it true for humans as a whole? Maybe. Is it true for 80 year olds? It seems to be. How about kids?
Very small % even seems like an understatement.Vaccine side effect and covid effect are all different depending on age health, and a number of other factors- but the vaccine still beats covid on the whole.
If I were 80 and somebody told me I was going to get covid I'd rather be vaccinated than not.
If I were 18 I probably wouldn't care outside of caring about who I could transmit it to unintentionally, but kids do get it and die a very small %/
If someone has a history of terrible reactions to a number of things they probably shoudln't get it a jab, and they tell you that prior.
Very small % even seems like an understatement.
It really sucks and its unfortunate. We will hear about vaccine probs and deaths the rest of our lives.
There are problems with vaccines, and for anyone to pretend there aren't they are full of shit.
Thing is the risk numbers are still on the vaccines side when you munch the data, by at least one decimal place, if not more.
If the approx 34.175M cases of Covid with 615K deaths out of 330M Americans doesn’t sound shocking. Think about what you or a family members life would be like afterwards if you were 1 of the 3 million people that survived hospitalization. The high percentages of them with long term health effects like Acute Respiratory Syndrome, sepsis, or renal/kidney damage is scary and that doesn’t include the non-hospitalized ones that still don’t have smell or taste. Look at the CDC numbers of hospitalizations drop off for older people as the Vax came available to them 2021 vs the current number of 18-59 not Vaxxed Requiring hospital stays, They’re equal now, That shows the power of the VAX working. The risk and number of Vax side effects are minuscule compared to risk of Covid and now that 2 friends are Carrying air bottles around before they even retired was enough to convince me. These are from CDC.
Those same freedoms which you enjoy, so does your employer.
You are free to refuse the shot. He is free to replace you with a vaccinated employee.
You should not be forced to get a shot if you don't want to, but he should not be forced to employ the un-vaccinated if he does not want to.
The complicated thing about freedom is that it is a two way street. And one persons freedoms should not come at the expense of another's.
10% don't catch it that's false it's already been proven with false positives etc and 1% aren't dying remember when they walked back on a bunch that were labeled covid and they weren't.Yup --its even worse than people think.
Yes they have isolated the virus - that is what a viral vector vaccine is - a weakened small bit of the disease incapable of defeating your immune system while triggering it to build antibodies (Johnson and Johnson/ Sputnik are this type of vaccine ) this tech has been used since the 70's calling it new and unproven is laughable.
MRNA does this a more effective way, (noted by the higher efficacy) but its new tech.
The data is all publicly available. Ive posted a bunch in other threads.
We were lucky we had some money - We retained a well known communicable disease expert we're given tons of stats in various preso as well as shown where thy got it wrong.
Britain ran its campaign on R factor you can easily look where the latest data is.
10% of us catch it 1% of those die, whats missing in that is the severity of what sickness can bring.
If you dont die but spent a month on a ventilator and will only ever recover to 50% but you didnt die, this is a small % as well.
Transmissibility varies, and I cant recall all the timetables I have to follow after symptoms, or declaration.
Im not sure you and I have chatted but I've no love of vaccination and have plenty of reasons to fear it - some close poeple to me had incredibly serious problems they are now labeled by the VAXX crowd and it irks sth shit out of me because they had real problems.
Overyone has two choices - Risk Covid and what it may bring, or risk the vaccine and what it may bring.
If the approx 34.175M cases of Covid with 615K deaths out of 330M Americans doesn’t sound shocking. Think about what you or a family members life would be like afterwards if you were 1 of the 3 million people that survived hospitalization. The high percentages of them with long term health effects like Acute Respiratory Syndrome, sepsis, or renal/kidney damage is scary and that doesn’t include the non-hospitalized ones that still don’t have smell or taste. Look at the CDC numbers of hospitalizations drop off for older people as the Vax came available to them 2021 vs the current number of 18-59 not Vaxxed Requiring hospital stays, They’re equal now, That shows the power of the VAX working. The risk and number of Vax side effects are minuscule compared to risk of Covid and now that 2 friends are Carrying air bottles around before they even retired was enough to convince me. These are from CDC. View attachment 1024003 View attachment 1024004 View attachment 1024005 View attachment 1024005 View attachment 1024006 View attachment 1024007 View attachment 1024008
10% don't catch it that's false it's already been proven with false positives etc and 1% aren't dying remember when they walked back on a bunch that were labeled covid and they weren't.
A lot of it is fabrication to keep the fear. With your statistics 1 of my close friends should be dead bullshit!
Do you guys really think printing a fake card will work, lol?
You do realize CA and other States have health department QR verification codes that are sent to your phone from the State?
We were already told to leave our cards at home, they want electronic verification.
For every 1 person in the US actually working there's 4 compliance dorks that couldn't come close to being able to kick stand a shovel keeping tabs on the work .. lmfaoMy fake card has already worked twice, once at an outdoor music venue and once at a bio lab research facility that required the shot. Federal database? lol. Those morons can't even keep the voter roles up to date!
10% don't catch it that's false it's already been proven with false positives etc and 1% aren't dying remember when they walked back on a bunch that were labeled covid and they weren't.
A lot of it is fabrication to keep the fear. With your statistics 1 of my close friends should be dead bullshit!
Roughly ...
330 Mil Americans
33 Million caught it that we tested - many more probably caught it that didnt test.
John hopkins source.
COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)coronavirus.jhu.edu
Actually 600K died so it more like 2% die that catch it.
put up yer data ....
Per the lib bible.Roughly ...
330 Mil Americans
33 Million caught it that we tested - many more probably caught it that didnt test.
John hopkins source.
COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)coronavirus.jhu.edu
Actually 600K died so it more like 2% die that catch it.
put up yer data ....