Employer requiring the jab...

[RodnJen]

if it had actual antibiotic like say pennicillin, all in.

This is why.

 

[RodnJen]

I guess I just don’t understand HIPAA laws, I thought our medical information was supposed to be private.

It is not private. Those who are custodians of it can’t share it.

 

[azsunfun]

I guess I just don’t understand HIPAA laws, I thought our medical information was supposed to be private.

nope, not since clinton data base was begun. 97 i believe.

 

[4Waters]

nope, not since clinton data base was begun. 97 i believe.

HIPAA was signed into law by Clinton in '96

 

[SnoC653]

I told my boss I had classified vaccinations while I was in the military. I explained that to discuss what I was an wasn't vaccinated against could get me in trouble. He said he understood and wouldn't require proof so I didn't need to wear a mask. My statements were all true, he can infer whatever makes him happy.

 

[GRADS]

when is your next near death experience?

Next Wednesday I go to Stanford for surgery. They are going to cut my neck open from my ear to clavicle and attempt to remove my stent from my carotid and also replace the artery with an artificial one. Thanks for asking.

 

[monkeyswrench]

@GRADS , not afraid of needles. Had quite a bunch while laid up. The problem is, I think I trust a guy named Chuy to do my next tattoo in his garage more than I trust the current vaccines. It's not a political matter for me. The technology was started a long time ago, this current batch was started under Trump and continuing under Biden.

If I were laid up in pain, and they offered me morphine, or "brand X", I'd want morphine. This would be especially true if they told me brand X may not stop the feeling of pain.

 

[DRYHEAT]

It is not private. Those who are custodians of it can’t share it.

But I and my doctors are the custodians of my health information and I don’t want to share so where does that leave me?

 

[Bigbore500r]

My CA team has to send me a form to sign and return back to say they’re vaccinated. I can’t ask for proof. Just sign and send back..

Yep - Cal OSHA requirement

 

[rivrrts429]

Who cares? You guys in favor of vaccination sound like a microcosm of Facebook. If you’re scared of the WuFlu stay home and collect a check from the .Gov

This country has turned into a nation of pussies.

 

[PRIMO]

Question for y'all that do not want to get the jab, but your employer has decided to make it mandatory to remain employed. Were you able to get a religious or medical exemption? Or did you find another work around to get out of having to get the shot? What has been your experience and how did you navigate this situation?

Question for y'all that do not want to get the jab, but your employer has decided to make it mandatory to remain employed. Were you able to get a religious or medical exemption? Or did you find another work around to get out of having to get the shot? What has been your experience and how did you navigate this situation?

NUREMBERG CODE......

 

[Universal Elements]

I magically got the shot per my vac's card on saturday.

No longer good in California, has to be on

“California’s Digital COVID-19 Vaccine Record.”

 

[spectra3279]

Question for y'all that do not want to get the jab, but your employer has decided to make it mandatory to remain employed. Were you able to get a religious or medical exemption? Or did you find another work around to get out of having to get the shot? What has been your experience and how did you navigate this situation?

I would sue the shit out of them. Experimental none fda approved.

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[Singleton]

I guess I just don’t understand HIPAA laws, I thought our medical information was supposed to be private.

It gets complicated. I am still a certified HIPAA Auditor and we are pending updated requirements for C19.
Old guidelines = If your employers asks for proof and makes a copy or maintains a document as evidence, then they fall under HIPAA since they are now acting as a custodian of your health data. It will be interesting if that changes.

 

[azsunfun]

I would sue the shit out of them. Experimental none fda approved.

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be thrown out on no standing.

 

[just_floatin]

I will be unemployed in September cuz I ain’t vaxxing. Good Thing I have my Dave Ramsey emergency fund
I rather die on my feet than live on my knees - Emiliano Zapata Salaza

 

[spectra3279]

be thrown out on no standing. [emoji37]

They won't be able to stand when I shoot their legs off

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[mjc]

No longer good in California, has to be on

“California’s Digital COVID-19 Vaccine Record.”

Good thing I don't live there. What I have is good in AZ.

 

[DRYHEAT]

It gets complicated. I am still a certified HIPAA Auditor and we are pending updated requirements for C19.
Old guidelines = If your employers asks for proof and makes a copy or maintains a document as evidence, then they fall under HIPAA since they are now acting as a custodian of your health data. It will be interesting if that changes.

I guess I’m just being an obstinant asshole, my employer has more of my health information than I care for them to have because of my yearly DOT physical‘s that are reviewed the company nurses. I may just say the hell with it and retire.

 

[Bobby V]

Who cares? You guys in favor of vaccination sound like a microcosm of Facebook. If you’re scared of the WuFlu stay home and collect a check from the .Gov

This country has turned into a nation of pussies.

Ha Ha…Seems like its always the non vaxers that do most of the crying in every thread that is started about “ The Evil Jab”. I could care less if you get the shot or not.

 

[CLdrinker]

I am just asking this question out of personal curiosity........

For those of you who choose not to get vaccinated, do you have passports or any desire to do international travel? If so, what country is going let you in without proof of being vaccinated?

Not looking for flames...... just curious if this is even a consideration.

Don’t give 2 shits about traveling. If my truck and RV can’t get me there I don’t need to go.

 

[RodnJen]

Who cares? You guys in favor of vaccination sound like a microcosm of Facebook. If you’re scared of the WuFlu stay home and collect a check from the .Gov

This country has turned into a nation of pussies.

Wannabe cool guy much?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It’s unbelievable we are at a point this is lawful. Any company that requires a jab is libel if shit goes side ways down the road. But the government or big pharma

If the manufacturers of the shot aren’t liable, the companies requiring you to get the shot aren’t gonna be liable either.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I guess I just don’t understand HIPAA laws, I thought our medical information was supposed to be private.

Lol silly you for thinking laws and regulations apply during a pandemic.

 

[CLdrinker]

I as an American have certain privileges.
One of which is Freedom.

I am free to choose wether I get a shot or not?

If I am forced by my employer, to make a choice that goes against my decision am I free?

If your mask and shot are so dam great why do you care what I do?

BTW most people don’t die. Don’t be such a puss.

 

[Icky]

If the manufacturers of the shot aren’t liable, the companies requiring you to get the shot aren’t gonna be liable either.

Up until recently (looks like it was changed a week or so ago) it would be an OSHA recordable if an employer made it mandatory and someone had adverse reactions the the vaccine.

 

[BHC Vic]

The mandate has been tested in Texas

In what is believed to be the first court decision on the issue of mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations, the U.S. District Court for Southern Texas upheld a hospital’s policy requiring that all of its employees must be vaccinated in order to remain employed. The hospital suspended almost 200 employees after they failed to get vaccinated by the hospital’s deadline, and announced that it would terminate their employment if they continued to refuse the vaccine. Approximately 117 employees filed a lawsuit challenging the policy. The court, in Jennifer Bridges et al v. Houston Methodist Hospital, easily dismissed the lawsuit, finding that the hospital had the right to require all of its employees to be vaccinated in order to continue working there.
In her complaint, the lead plaintiff posited the oft-cited argument that individuals cannot be forced to be vaccinated against COVID-19 because, at present, the vaccines have only received emergency approval from the FDA. Thus, she claimed that her employer’s vaccine mandate violated federal law regarding emergency vaccines because federal law requires the Department of Health and Human Services to warn consumers of the “potential benefits and risks of use” of such a vaccine and give them “the option to refuse administration of the product.” The court made short shrift of this argument, explaining that this provision is aimed at the Department of Health and Human Services, not employers, and that it neither expands nor restricts the responsibilities of private employers. In fact, the court stated that it “does not apply at all to private employers like the hospital in this case.”
The court similarly dispatched the plaintiff’s argument that the hospital was coercing its employees to act as “human guinea pigs” in human research trials on pain of termination of employment, noting that the hospital was neither approved for nor engaging in human trials so the rules regarding coercion during such studies did not apply. As to the plaintiff’s argument that the mandatory vaccination requirement was akin to “forced medical experimentation during the Holocaust,” the court deemed the argument “reprehensible” and dismissed it out of hand.
Finally, the court held that the plaintiff was not being coerced to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Offering a choice between vaccination and termination of employment does not amount to coercion. The hospital’s decision to require its employees to be vaccinated was made to keep staff, patients and their families safe. The court aptly noted that the plaintiff is free to be vaccinated or not, as she chooses. If she chooses not to be vaccinated, she “will simply need to work somewhere else.”
While this case was decided in Texas, it may have persuasive value for similar cases in Connecticut and surrounding states. As we have discussed previously, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission’s most recent guidance makes clear that employers can require employees to be vaccinated so long as they make reasonable accommodations for disabilities and sincerely-held religious objections to vaccination. While mandatory vaccination policies are most likely to be upheld in situations where employees are working with vulnerable populations such as hospitals and nursing homes, if crafted properly they are likely to enjoy broader application as well.
Employers, however, must be careful not to implement the policy in a way that would discriminate against any protected class of individuals, and may want to ensure that all employees have a way to easily access the vaccine. Employers should also have a procedure in place to assess requests for reasonable accommodations due to disabilities and/or sincerely-held religious beliefs. Pullman & Comley’s employment lawyers are available to help you craft a mandatory vaccine policy for your workplace.
Tags: COVID Lawsuit, Department of Health and Human Services, EEOC, FDA, Mandatory Vaccination, U.S. District Court for Southern Texas, Vaccination Polic

Yup mandatory for us because of that case. I got the jab, my buddy lost his job. There was no exemption letter like the memo said

 

[rivrrts429]

Wannabe cool guy much?

Wannabe pussy much?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

My CA team has to send me a form to sign and return back to say they’re vaccinated. I can’t ask for proof. Just sign and send back..

Pretty much what my company is doing to go back on campuses. you just have to assert you’ve been vaccinated.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It is not private. Those who are custodians of it can’t share it.

Meaning you, the actual person does not have to share any proof beyond your assertion about your personal heath.

 

[RodnJen]

Wannabe pussy much?

Anytime.

 

[rivrrts429]

Anytime.

Bless your heart lmao

 

[Dirtbag]

the vaccine doesnt stop you from transmitting or getting the vaccine. It only lessens the effect the virus has on you. If a person chooses to roll the dice that is their decision. this shit makes no sense how it can be mandatory.....

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Up until recently (looks like it was changed a week or so ago) it would be an OSHA recordable if an employer made it mandatory and someone had adverse reactions the the vaccine.

literally no one is responsible if you get the shot and have adverse affects and/or die. The employer will say they were following state or federal guidelines, the makers of the vaccine have immunity.

 

[just_floatin]

literally no one is responsible if you get the shot and have adverse affects and/or die. The employer will say they were following state or federal guidelines, the makers of the vaccine have immunity.

Readers Digest Version - “YORE F-D” if you die from adverse side effects.

 

[Riley1]

I don’t know what 50% anyone is talking about. I don’t have even 1 friend who got the jab. Just 1 liberal brother, who I haven’t understood in the 30 years I’ve known him.

sounds like fake vaccine numbers! Did Dominion do the research?

 

[Riley1]

Also, if everyone who wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated, and those who don’t aren’t a threat to those who are, what’s the big deal?

 

[GRADS]

I rather die on my feet than live on my knees - Emiliano Zapata Salaza

I prefer you on your feet over your knees as well - Worlds Tallest Man

 

[EmpirE231]

I don’t understand the fascination of the vaxxed people, trying to make sure everyone else gets vaxxed. Carry on with your lives... walk around with that mask off like the Superman you are now!!

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I am assuming all who won’t get the vax did not get their kids vax’d when they started public schools when they were young? You all used the work around for that as well?

 

[badgas]

At the company I work at. If you got the shot. No mask. If no shot. Wear the mask.

This is the same at my place of employment. It is based on So cal Osha nonsene. It is also on the honor system so I identify as vaxed don't ask don't tell.

My Mask is in the garbage where it belongs

 

[Riley1]

I am assuming all who won’t get the vax did not get their kids vax’d when they started public schools when they were young? You all used the work around for that as well?

Not at all comparable by my kid (as well as myself) are fully vaccinated with approved and proven vaccines such as measles, mumps and rubella.
Im not in an “at risk” age group. So I was never really worried about it. Even less so when I got it in January (was no big deal). But when you have to lottery millions of dollars to get people to take your shot, I start to get worried. No sane person can justify enticing someone with millions of dollars for a LIFE SAVING vaccine of a DEADLY virus. If there truly was a life saving cure to a truly deadly disease, it would be SOLD OUT like F150’s.

 

[Wonderbread]

Not at all comparable by my kid (as well as myself) are fully vaccinated with approved and proven vaccines such as measles, mumps and rubella.
Im not in an “at risk” age group. So I was never really worried about it. Even less so when I got it in January (was no big deal). But when you have to lottery millions of dollars to get people to take your shot, I start to get worried. No sane person can justify enticing someone with millions of dollars for a LIFE SAVING vaccine of a DEADLY virus. If there truly was a life saving cure to a truly deadly disease, it would be SOLD OUT like F150’s.

Lol right! COVID is super duper deadly with an effective kill rate of .0837543% of those infected. This is pretty terrifying

 

[was thatguy]

Next Wednesday I go to Stanford for surgery. They are going to cut my neck open from my ear to clavicle and attempt to remove my stent from my carotid and also replace the artery with an artificial one. Thanks for asking.

Well, if I had to get my neck cut open, Stanford is where I’d want to be.
Im sure it’ll be fine.

 

[CarolynandBob]

There are plenty of ways to get a blank covid card. Photo shop and be done with it.

Fuck those employers. I personally would let them fire me.

 

[4Waters]

 

[DWC]

Next Wednesday I go to Stanford for surgery. They are going to cut my neck open from my ear to clavicle and attempt to remove my stent from my carotid and also replace the artery with an artificial one. Thanks for asking.

Good luck sir. You’ll be back fishing for inmates by Friday.

 

[was thatguy]

I don’t understand the fascination of the vaxxed people, trying to make sure everyone else gets vaxxed. Carry on with your lives... walk around with that mask off like the Superman you are now!!

It’s the latest trend in virtue signaling. Not actually getting the shot, but the crusade against those who choose not to.
I know people that felt it necessary because of their vulnerable household members, that’s their decision and I don’t question it at all.
It ain’t my business.
But like every other lefty hot topic today that has nothing to do with normal life, we are judged and harassed by the crusaders for making our own decisions.
That is the root of their dissatisfaction.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Pretty much what my company is doing to go back on campuses. you just have to assert you’ve been vaccinated.

According to our legal team self assertion works.

We asked for voluntary info, but the catch is if you say you didnt, or dont reply you must wear a mask.

I rumbled with the owner to fight mandatory Vax and won- this round anyway. We're totally in our right to ask it, but dont have to and as long as Im not mandated to I won't.

Whats getting really fucking old is people coming at me for following the law.

I totally get the situation sucks, but in order for everyone to be gainfully employed Im stuck and have to minimally follow the law.

If you dont like that and cant understand it well then - Mr. Smith head to Washington and start writing letters, but coming at me like Im the bad guy is going to get you shut down, and shut down hard.

 

[Tom Slick]

Here's my take for what it's worth.

The vaccine is borderline experimental and is not even fully approved by the FDA. It has been approved for emergency use only. Nobody has any liability what so ever with regards to any aspect of the vaccine.

This is actually not a true vaccine, as it does not eliminate the virus, nor does it prevent viral spread. This is why it absolutely should not matter to anyone if an individual choose not to get the jab. If I choose not to get the jab, why does it matter to anyone. Essentially I would only be a danger to myself and no one else, since the vaccine only mitigates the symptoms to myself should I contract the virus. It does not keep me or anyone else from spreading the virus. So why on earth should anyone, vaccinated or not, friend, family or employer give a damn if I'm vaccinated? I am zero threat to anyone whether I've been vaccinated or not.

I will never put a substance into my body that is rushed to market, unproven in short and long term effects, does not provide a list of ingredients, side effects, etc. It's crazy to me that in order to get a medical exemption a person has to prove that they are allergic to an ingredient contained in the vaccine, yet nobody knows what the ingredients are.

And what if I've already had Covid and have natural immunity. Why should I have to get the vaccine when I'm already safe. Science is showing ever day how people that have had Covid and recovered have natural immunity that may last a life time.