DCB flip from the air (different angle)

[Isanger]

Food for thought. I'll grab my popcorn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYvL6uEMl6E

 

[rivergames]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm:eek

 

[TBI]

:eek

 

[shintoooo]

WOW :eek

 

[spectras only]

Looks clearly the M35 made a bad move! Looked like Tony started turning left but the M35 had room turning parallel to the M41, it would have avoided crossing the M41's wake! The boat coming the opposite way had room looking at the clip.

 

[milkmoney]

wow....

 

[Havasu Hangin']

Left turn Clyde

 

[shintoooo]

Looks like McRib caused that crash :skull

 

[djunkie]

Damm.


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[Kylemenz1]

Well that about sums it up!!

Where's the rest of the video?


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[throttle]

Hate to say it. But... This confirms my original thoughts

 

[milkmoney]

Just a chilling video too watch. The M35 just kept drifting closer and closer to Tony. It looked like the M35 was about to run over the back of the M41 before it crossed over right behind it and lost control. I can't imagine what the crew in the F32 were thinking. They were being washed down with so much water, they couldn't see anything..... Wow..:thumbsdown

pokey, did you watch it more than once? huh??????

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Flip was one thing, he almost got an f29 up the ass

 

[MissB]

why would he try to cross over like that? why not hold his original line???:eek it's like he almost cause more than him self to go over, the crossed in front of that other boat as well.... holy shit

edit - the guy that flips is who I'm asking about Although the boat out in front, seem like he kinds goes left... all sorts of crazy going on..

 

[Kylemenz1]

Just a chilling video too watch. I can't imagine what the crew in the F32 were thinking. They were being washed down with so much water, they couldn't see anything..... Wow..:thumbsdown

They weren't "drifting," they were turning


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[milkmoney]

why would he try to cross over like that? why not hold his original line???:eek

who?

 

[milkmoney]

I just did. Just a terrible accident.. Wow.:thumbsdown

ok..i see you edited your post..

 

[djunkie]

Flip was one thing, he almost got an f29 up the ass

And I'll bet that guy had to clean his shorts after the crossover in front of him.


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[Tom Brown]

why would he try to cross over like that? why not hold his original line???:eek

I'll bet he was running a little dry and couldn't make the turn.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

I don't know, appears to me the M41 made a long slow drift left. M35 was trying to veer left (?) last minute decided to duck in behind due to the close proximity of the M41? Bitchin footage.

 

[Havasu Hangin']

If I were in that M35, I would have been trying to get to the right, too. There was oncoming traffic on that side of the lake.

 

[Cajun]

100% M35 operator error.

 

[Hammer]

who?

The M35 , it appears he didn't want to turn while everyone else did and went across the M41's wake. Very lucky, glad it didn't involve any other boats and they only sustained minor injuries considering.

 

[SHEP]

If I were in that M35, I would have been trying to get to the right, too. There was oncoming traffic on that side of the lake.

x2 plus he had a few boats to his left that needed room due to oncoming traffic.

SHEP

 

[milkmoney]

The M35 , it appears he didn't want to turn while everyone else did and went across the M41's wake. Very lucky, glad it didn't involve any other boats and they only sustained minor injuries considering.

i thought that and miss b added to the post now. at first it was jus a generic statement that i quoted, so i asked why..

and next time let miss b answer me..if you need to talk to me i will quote ya hammerti:thumbup:me..lol

 

[H20 Toie]

There is a reason that people should take the Tres Martin class.

 

[Hammer]

If I were in that M35, I would have been trying to get to the right, too. There was oncoming traffic on that side of the lake.

It appears that he could veered back to his original line after he passed the oncoming boat... But I agree I would've taken the turn a little wider as well.

 

[TBI]

who?

Wat

 

[Havasu Hangin']

100% M35 operator error.

The M35 was going head-on with the traffic coming the other way if he didn't swerve right. The F32 was trying to stay right, too. On Havasu, you have to stay right of the centerline for traffic flow- just like a highway....not just Desert Storm.

 

[MissB]

i thought that and miss b added to the post now. at first it was jus a generic statement that i quoted, so i asked why..

and next time let miss b answer me..if you need to talk to me i will quote ya hammerti:thumbup:me..lol

yes, MM I edited. And yes I was referring to the M35.

 

[milkmoney]

yes, MM I edited. And yes I was referring to the M35.

cool, i went back and looked, i took it both ways and thought, maybe i missed somethoing..all good.:thumbup:

 

[Tom Brown]

It looks to me like SKIA36 nailed it three days ago.

Saw the chopper video...looks like the M41 cut off the M35 as well as several other boats(alledgedly). John Roth stopped and swam over to help the 2 guys in the water. He was one of the guys hosed down. Water from the M41 fouled one of his engines. I was with the Mercury Racing Guys , they commented on the video... saying that when saturated water and air enter the tunnel of big cats going fast, it does not compress like air and causes excess pressure in the tunnel =blowover.

 

[Cajun]

The M35 was going head-on with the traffic coming the other way if he didn't swerve right. The F32 was trying to stay right, too. On Havasu, you have to stay right of the centerline for traffic flow- just like a highway....not just Desert Storm.

I get this completely. However, they were told to stay right hours before in the meeting, and instead of ramping through the wake, the operator should have backed off first. Operator erred.

 

[Kylemenz1]

I don't know. I understand they were not supposed to be left of the centerline of the lake. But the M35 seemed to be left of center before everyone got on the gas. It looks like he had plenty of room and could have stayed where he was, left side of the M41. If he felt he was in anyway endangering oncoming traffic would it had not been safer to maybe lift the throttles a bit and get into better position? It's really easy for me to watch the video and decide what the best move should have been. I understand things happen real fast at that speed a d with other boats traveling in close proximity. Glad everything and everyone will be back on the water soon.


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[TBI]

There is a reason that people should take the Tres Martin class.

I'd take his class if he'd change his name to Duke or Bronco or something like that ....

..... I would have a hard time taking driving lessons very serious from someone named Tres

 

[460]

Those guys are lucky to be alive.

Correction.

I watched it again and the m35 held a pretty good line all the way through. Looks like he was pinched by the 41 trying to get to the inside.

 

[prosthogod]

I'm sorry but after watching that video a number of times, I would have to put the blame on the M41. I'm no racer(or poker runner), but I do have 6-700 hrs in a cat on lake havasu. In my opinion the M41 made a left turn not allowing enough room for the other boats to make a parallel left turn. he would be able to see the oncoming boat and simply pinched the others off. To my point you didn't see Gary anywhere in the picture because he was making a wide parallel turn.That's it.

 

[JBS]

In my mind the M35 screwed up by allowing themselves to be pushed to the wrong side of the lake. Then rather than coming off the throttles and dropping back they made the decesion to try and get around. If they would of succeeded they would of ended up taking predators line.

With that being said Predator was the only boat in the correct position at that point in time. The M41 was not in a bad spot but If it was me I would not of run next to the the F32 and the M35 which were both clearly on the wrong side.

 

[spectras only]

If I were in that M35, I would have been trying to get to the right, too. There was oncoming traffic on that side of the lake.

Jeff, the oncoming traffic was definitely a factor for the M35 driver to change course[ albeit he was ahead of the M41 for a while] but if you watch the footage frame by frame, there was enough room for him to stay parallel with the other guys. I'm 100% sure if there wasn't that single boat coming from the opposite direction, there wouldn't have been a mishap. That area is just too narrow flying 100+ with oncoming traffic.

 

[PVHCA]

There is a reason that people should take the Tres Martin class.

Agree 1000X.

But the ego on some of these clowns doesn't allow that to occur.

 

[rivergames]

This can easily go both way. M41 cut that turn a little tight and pinched both boats. The M35 could have turned a little sooner. The blue boat in the center just got F'd, at least he saw it coming and backed off the mash gas.

Just a bad deal.

 

[ka0tyk]

what sets the "line" that the lead boat is taking? as per "rules" or "regulations" does the lead boat have to swing far right? or can he go wherever he wants because he's in front?

that whole group was way too far to the left, they ran out of room and the person that got squeezed (other than the one that slowed and took a wash, sucks to hear they suffered engine damage because of it) ended up taking a swim.

but then again isnt this a risk that people take when they do 100+ mph in a boat? i know its not a race but obviously from the video thats not a leisurely run to havasu springs for some ice cream...

 

[28Eliminator]

Wow... Good video. I'm guessing he was feeling a little "pinched", and wanted some breathing room on the right side... Just a bad decision. Thankfully everyone is ok.


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[PVHCA]

Judging from all the vids I've seen they all appeared quite tight, IMO. Spreading out may be the wiser choice.

 

[RiverDave]

The M35 was going head-on with the traffic coming the other way if he didn't swerve right. The F32 was trying to stay right, too. On Havasu, you have to stay right of the centerline for traffic flow- just like a highway....not just Desert Storm.

Somehow the guys to the left of him managed to miss the incoming traffic, and not cut off the f32, and cross behind the m41..

I'd say the m35 is 100% at fault.

And let's not forget when shit starts getting that outta whack, why not slow down a hair?

RD

 

[regor]

I'm sorry but after watching that video a number of times, I would have to put the blame on the M41. I'm no racer(or poker runner), but I do have 6-700 hrs in a cat on lake havasu. In my opinion the M41 made a left turn not allowing enough room for the other boats to make a parallel left turn. he would be able to see the oncoming boat and simply pinched the others off. To my point you didn't see Gary anywhere in the picture because he was making a wide parallel turn.That's it.

Ding Ding

 

[BajaMike]

Looks clearly the M35 made a bad move! Looked like Tony started turning left but the M35 had room turning parallel to the M41, it would have avoided crossing the M41's wake! The boat coming the opposite way had room looking at the clip.

M35 is not even a boat link behind that M41, and he crosses at such a shallow angle, nothing good can come of that.

These pictures are about a second or two apart:








Wow, crazy driving....and they are way over on the wrong side of the lake. And you see the guy behind them that gets stuck in both of their wakes and spray?? He gets through it somehow. Of course he wasn't 10 feet behind him either.

 

[shippingguy]

My observation on this is fault on both sides, but again my observation and opinion. I think Tony could of stayed a bit wider in that turn. He was already pulling ahead of the M35 and F32 and if he would of stayed on line a bit longer and then put the sticks down as they straightened out this would of been avoided. On the other side I think the M35 maybe hit the panic button a bit and tried to cut across (not a good move) obviously. Shitty situation all the way around and I am glad all are ok. Injured, but alive!:thumbsup The boats are replaceable and can be fixed.

 

[RiverDave]

Agree 1000X.

But the ego on some of these clowns doesn't allow that to occur.

Have you taken the tres Martin course?

 

[spectras only]

Judging from all the vids I've seen they all appeared quite tight, IMO. Spreading out may be the wiser choice.

Blasting some land to widen that part of the lake is in order:thumbsup