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Long Way Home said:
If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.
William J. Brennan

It is a Constitutional right. And when you stop others from exercising that right, it is YOU who is being un-American.
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I absolutely and firmly believe in the 1A, but if you could show us where defacing/destroying property is part of it, that would be great. 👍

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
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regor said:
I absolutely and firmly believe in the 1A, but if you could show us where defacing/destroying property is part of it, that would be great. 👍

First Amendment​


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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The original topic, thread was on burning the flag, not on destroying state or federal property
 
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I may be a conspiracy nut or over thinking it, but I think most of it is starts with the agitators who are on the payroll of democratic groups behind the scenes. Sure there are some nutcases that believe in "the cause", but it's the paid actors that get things going.

I think it's a plan by the left to fire up the media and get to Trump. They can't beat him, but he could beat himself if he isn't careful. If they can get him riled up enough and push him into saying things that will cause some people on the fence to turn away from him.
Example: Why does Trump still bash Biden? He's out of the race, bash his policies, tie them to her, but nothing to gain by calling Biden names or saying how bad of a person he is. It doesn't bother me, I'm the base, but if it turns some people off, why do it?

I fear they are bating him with stuff like this protest and I worry he may fall for it and rant about something that really hurts him in the election.
 
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Long Way Home said:
The original topic, thread was on burning the flag, not on destroying state or federal property
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I posted on burning the flag, legal or not as a matter of principle. The destroying/defacing federal property was most definitely part of it as a bigger picture
 
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Long Way Home said:
Remember January 6.
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Granted some got out of hand on that date but I dont really see the comparison personally and Jan 6th was an anomaly for the right at best compared to the continual and on going left burnings, defacing, traffic stopping etc and mayhem
 
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Baja 252 said:
I may be a conspiracy nut or over thinking it, but I think most of it is starts with the agitators who are on the payroll of democratic groups behind the scenes. Sure there are some nutcases that believe in "the cause", but it's the paid actors that get things going.

I think it's a plan by the left to fire up the media and get to Trump. They can't beat him, but he could beat himself if he isn't careful. If they can get him riled up enough and push him into saying things that will cause some people on the fence to turn away from him.
Example: Why does Trump still bash Biden? He's out of the race, bash his policies, tie them to her, but nothing to gain by calling Biden names or saying how bad of a person he is. It doesn't bother me, I'm the base, but if it turns some people off, why do it?

I fear they are bating him with stuff like this protest and I worry he may fall for it and rant about something that really hurts him in the election.
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I truly feel that shit cost him the last election, a kinder gentler Trump would go a long way in this everyone's memory lasts 15 minutes society.
 
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mash on it said:
While it's disgusting and vile, but it's protected under the first amendment.

Maybe the old constitution needs a little trimming? Ya know, the first, second and fourth amendments trimmed off? Any other amendments that need trimming?
Yeah, that's sarcasm.

I'd rather see a certain M/C club roll in and take care of business with those f*cks. Proudly displaing old glory on their Harleys. The police depts deal with enough excrement.

Palestine woke up the big dog. Big dog is going off the chain.

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Taking federal property and burning it is not protected under the first amendment, neither is destruction or vandalism.

RD
 
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poncho said:
I truly feel that shit cost him the last election, a kinder gentler Trump would go a long way in this everyone's memory lasts 15 minutes society.
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This shit is beyond kind and gentle.

There's an entire generation of voting age people of age now that have never been punched in the mouth, and this same group has been brainwashed to sympathise with these shithole terrorist sponsoring nations. Combined with 8 years of Obama, iced by 4 years of Biden absolutely giving the farm away......and here we are.

I agree Trump would get farther with moderates and "on the fence" softies, but the time is NOW for a guy like him to fucking clean house and do some yardwork.
 
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I can't believe we've let this crap get this bad. If you or I were to start burning Palestinian or Pride flags et al, we'd be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But it's okay for these A$% clowns to riot, burn American flags and deface property w/out repercussion.
 
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@RiverDave - why does the forumn emoji list not have an american flag? You've been compromised!

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Sometimes the only was to solve something, is with violence. These scumbags have no repercussions. I guarantee their attitude would change if there was an HA chapter standing there.
 
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Bigbore500r said:
This shit is beyond kind and gentle.

There's an entire generation of voting age people of age now that have never been punched in the mouth, and this same group has been brainwashed to sympathise with these shithole terrorist sponsoring nations. Combined with 8 years of Obama, iced by 4 years of Biden absolutely giving the farm away......and here we are.

I agree Trump would get farther with moderates and "on the fence" softies, but the time is NOW for a guy like him to fucking clean house and do some yardwork.
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Thats why they are so afraid of him, the career grifters know they are fucked if he gets in.
He learned a lot from his first term and knows damned well who his enemies are.
Just got to win this election even if he has to be a toned down version of himself, hell Biden the racist pedo fooled people for 50 years.
 
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There is a protest in our Capitol just about everyday of the week. Nobody cares because we as Americans respect our Constitutional right to protest, but make no mistake, removing and burning our flag was planned and executed in order to do one thing. Make us angry and divide us further.

The left thrives on causing chaos and anger. Could you imagine if there had been violence initiated by a right leaning group against these turds. Don't give these idiots any ammunition that they can use to fire up their base. They own the media and will spin it to their advantage.

Let them hang themselves. America is waking up and I'll bet the majority of Americans are disgusted by what happened yesterday. Let cooler heads prevail. Get behind the Law & Order Movement and do what you can to support Donald Trump.

These protesters, whether or not they are citizens or foreign know that their reign of terror and discord are coming to an end. Most of these turds will either be deported or any aid$ cutoff immediately.
 
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Does anyone else just realize this stems from our educational system? People are not being educated on facts and cause and effect. It’s hilarious to know how the people of Palestine would treat these same idiots who are protesting for them.

“Off with their heads is what comes to mind!”
 
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Smupser said:
Anyone else see the Pro-Palestinians protesters in Washington burning the flag? I can believe our country has gotten to a point where doing this is not seriously prosecuted. makes me sick
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Being prosecuted by the government for burning the flag is doing the exact opposite of what the flag stands for. Kicking someone’s ass for burning the flag is acceptable.
 
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dribble said:
Being prosecuted by the government for burning the flag is doing the exact opposite of what the flag stands for. Kicking someone’s ass for burning the flag is acceptable.
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SORRY, They want it both ways and this is where "RESPECT" must be taught. Bringing back the "DOJ" to what it was formed for will help change everything.

This "Trash" never learned it at home, in School, and certainly in the Military (NONE SERVED") SO!! Two choices remain, In Jail or the Business End Of A "Glock 40"

No more Defacing and Destroying Public Property along with Things We Hold Dear. Some Things must be Altered to Circumstances of Woke, The "Squad" AND "Oblamer" encouraging and "Blessing" the "Pissing On America":(
 
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Outdrive1 said:
Sometimes the only was to solve something, is with violence. These scumbags have no repercussions. I guarantee their attitude would change if there was an HA chapter standing there.
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Hypothetically speaking keyboard warrior two cents. Vandalism and flag burning is like a gnat buzzing. Yes it is disrespectful, but you assume these subhumans know what respect even is.

I think the only bikeriders going to DC are doing tribute rides to the wall. There are few patriots in DC and it is not worth sacrificing any to mess with this head on. Better if a group of mad men who are skilled in violence just quietly take these misguided souls in a less public setting. You know damn well these filthy pigs are living like roaches in small apartments. Much easier to intel them and exterminate bugs wholesale. The Proud Boys learned that counter assaults lead to lopsided persecution.

Alas we are old men with time on our hands and soft beds. We have too much to lose, these swine have nothing.
 
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Smupser said:
Anyone else see the Pro-Palestinians protesters in Washington burning the flag? I can believe our country has gotten to a point where doing this is not seriously prosecuted. makes me sick
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While I don't agree with it, burning the American flag is protected as free speech under the First Amendment. However, the graffiti you see in the photos is usually punishable as a misdemeanor. Go figure.
 
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Long Way Home said:
If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.
William J. Brennan

It is a Constitutional right. And when you stop others from exercising that right, it is YOU who is being un-American.
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But you can't burn destroy or damage property you do not own. There are also local codes in most places that make it illegal to light fires. These shitbags should be charged with felony vandalism and whatever local laws they broke.
 
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But you can't burn destroy or damage property you do not own. There are also local codes in most places that make it illegal to light fires. These shitbags should be charged with felony vandalism and whatever local laws they broke.
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President Trump will "RID" the Country of SOROS Backed "DA's" and get this Country back on the way to the "American Dream":cool:
 
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