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Side note, lay off Dave. As much as he’s done for all of you the least you can do is respect his opinion.

As much as he's done for us?
You mean like creating a great site where people with largely common hobbies are able to share thoughts and opinions?

Or does that only count when you like it to? 🤔


Also, I don't think anyone is being disrespectful of his opinion. They are simply expressing why they disagree with it.
 

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I have many gay friends. Probably more than 15 if I counted. Most are against the trans bullshit.

One said something about Desantis and drag shows being banned. I explained to her that is was a bill to keep them from having drag show around kids or something like that. She said oh I didn't know that and said they shouldn't let kids see the drag shows.
 

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I have many gay friends. Probably more than 15 if I counted. Most are against the trans bullshit.

One said something about Desantis and drag shows being banned. I explained to her that is was a bill to keep them from having drag show around kids or something like that. She said oh I didn't know that and said they shouldn't let kids see the drag shows.
So birds of a feather???? Hahaha
 

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I have many gay friends. Probably more than 15 if I counted. Most are against the trans bullshit.

One said something about Desantis and drag shows being banned. I explained to her that is was a bill to keep them from having drag show around kids or something like that. She said oh I didn't know that and said they shouldn't let kids see the drag shows.
Sounds like your friends are relying on the news for information and not reading information. I have had the exact conversation with folks and when I pull up the bill and read it, all of them said “that is not what the news said”.

My uncles 2 sons are gay. Family found out his wife was gay last year. My uncle was blind to it or so he says. Both cousins agree with the Florida laws. Both agree what is being pushed should not be in the classroom period! Both stated, finding someone for those kids to talk to experiencing those thoughts is key, but teachers should not be those resources. Kicker - both are teachers (one teaches music, the other art). Both run support groups for kids separate from their schools but within the same district. Kids are only allowed to attend once the parent knows what the kids have expressed and the district psychologist has agreed. Both stated, they have never seen one parent react in a negative manner when being told their kid is experiencing thoughts. Finally both said, NO way should someone under 18 be allowed to have reassignment surgery.

The news is pushing the 1% for everything. This BL item is the same, being highlighted because it deals with the 1%.

People need to stop being connected to electronics and start talking again in person!
Going to take my own advise now and step away now.
You all have fun trying to solve problems via social media sites. Taking my daughter to breakfast :)
 

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Side note, lay off Dave. As much as he’s done for all of you the least you can do is respect his opinion.

Dave doesn't have an opinion...

He's doing what he always does and just sticking to the facts.

It seriously is one of the things I've always admired about him. He almost never gets caught up in the BS and cuts straight through to the heart of the matter and deals from a factual point of view.

He's not saying anything wrong here.

And I don't believe anyone else is either.

It's ok to have different points of view on the same subject without being labeled a hater or a sheep.

As far as I'm concerned, beer is for high school kids. And AB needs to truly apologize not so much for what they did, as what they have failed to do.

To support guys like you. 🚒👨🏿‍🚒👍🏼
 
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The tides are turning. The people paying the bill in this country are starting to push back with ALL the nonsense, not just the stupid LMNOP+ stuff. Be a good human, live your life, what’s good for you might not be for me…….
You're absolutely right.. The tides are turning.. I see it
 

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My local Albertson’s in Las Vegas has an ad for tomorrow for Michelob ultra cans an 18 pack for $9.99, they can hardly give it away.
 

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Wouldn't Q2 be more relevant for the current "controversy"?

Yep but the stock is still up in spite of the temporary yet very public dent into share. Stock price is a couple percent off its peak for then year before this all started.
 
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It was not a single can. It was a custom printed 6 pack along with a social influence agreement ($$) to market BL in his social media videos. Based on the views his videos received, he would receive additional compensation. The reaction was compounded by some mid-level marketing VP being interviewed and insulting the BL consumer.

Now, AB is in a very difficult position, With a 26% decline in pours (consumer consumption and sales) from the launch of this social media campaign the company is limited. Try and win back those who left and the 1% they were trying to market to will cause so much noise, AB will see additional declines in pours. As one disturber stated in the article I read - I lost all my country bars, and now am at risk of losing my gay bars. If those go, my business is at risk.

AB is in a no win situation and just announced distributions will be receiving free units to offset local loses and workers will get a free case. Free beer will not increase sales. They need to launch a campaign focused on having a drink with your friends, no matter what race, sex, etc and hope that is the start of people forgetting. That said, those that left will never forget and most likely not return to BL.

The cans are usually wrapped. From
What I was told It was one can. I have been so busy Robert I honestly haven’t had time to go down the media news outlets (which as we all know are usually incorrect anyways) to see if it was a six pack or one can. Employees at Romer said it was one.. I have no reason to doubt them. That all said one can or six? Do you know how many cans go down each assembly at each plant per hour? Or a better question.. do we know who else received commemorative cans that month? Or this year? Or over the last decade?

RD
 

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Still entertaining.

I’ve always respected RD in his ability to twist and turn facts to win an Internet argument. To watch him choose to defend this one takes guts and isn’t a hill I would choose to die on.

Two things.. one I’m not twisting facts I’m choosing to recognize.. on the second there’s an old saying those that don’t stand for something stand for nothing. Lol.
 

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The cans are usually wrapped. From
What I was told It was one can. I have been so busy Robert I honestly haven’t had time to go down the media news outlets (which as we all know are usually incorrect anyways) to see if it was a six pack or one can. Employees at Romer said it was one.. I have no reason to doubt them. That all said one can or six? Do you know how many cans go down each assembly at each plant per hour? Or a better question.. do we know who else received commemorative cans that month? Or this year? Or over the last decade?

RD

Nope.

But I'd sure like to find out!

Facts anyone??
 

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I’d like to know when the corporate advertising strategy shifted from sponsorships to backing influencers.

If you wanted their money you had to play by their rules. And usually you were contractually obligated to follow the rules.

Everyone dropped Tiger at the drop of a hat for a sex scandal between consenting adults.

Now billion dollar corporations are putting their money and reputation behind wild cards.
 

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The cans are usually wrapped. From
What I was told It was one can. I have been so busy Robert I honestly haven’t had time to go down the media news outlets (which as we all know are usually incorrect anyways) to see if it was a six pack or one can. Employees at Romer said it was one.. I have no reason to doubt them. That all said one can or six? Do you know how many cans go down each assembly at each plant per hour? Or a better question.. do we know who else received commemorative cans that month? Or this year? Or over the last decade?

RD

Dave. When one person that has 12m followers holds up one can.. is it really just one can? 😂

You charge for advertising and are not obtuse. You know this.
 

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the CEO is responsible for everything that falls under the company and is the first person people point to when things go wrong and or great. In this case bad, so from the top down why did the CEO put in charge someone to HIRE this "nutjob". IF as you say multi layers of people. Just keep asking why? If there was no backlash and sales continued as is. These questions do not need to be answered. Does the CEO need to approve all things down to that level? Absolutely not!!!! however, when you lose 26% of sales and 5 Billion in market cap, perhaps they should?

you see the same thing with private schools and home-schooling trends on the rise. The 99% of people are sick of the trans movement and are not ok with this being force fed down our throats.

Again we jump from a can of beer to children and schools. I don’t believe we should teach anything except the basics. Math / science / biology / history / civics in schools and our constitution..
 

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I’d like to know when the corporate advertising strategy shifted from sponsorships to backing influencers.

If you wanted their money you had to play by their rules. And usually you were contractually obligated to follow the rules.

Everyone dropped Tiger at the drop of a hat for a sex scandal between consenting adults.

Now billion dollar corporations are putting their money and reputation behind wild cards.

I think this ad campaign is an And, not an Or. This is a way for them to advertise in the short TikTok format for a very low cost.. these viral grassroots influencers are relatively cheap.
 

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I remember all the calls to boycott Nike in 2018 over the Kap advertising. And that was a directed fully approved ad campaign.

The only thing similar in the two is the fact that they are both based on leftist ideology in some fashion. Collin can’t seem to wrap his head around facts or actual data..

This dude lopped his dick off. I don’t really see the comparison other than none of us like it.
 

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Can we expect a RDP/Bud Light t-shirt soon?

We did do a spoof off of only fans recently which was called “only tans”. The dudes shirt which never made it to print said “only cans”.

Didn’t do a bud light one though..
 

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Just one can of beer you say…



That’s exactly what I’m saying! Why is it the can of bud light is now the symbol of everything left and trans.. yet our own armed forces did something much more and it’s still attributed to bud light?

I’d like someone to answer that question..
 

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I think this ad campaign is an And, not an Or. This is a way for them to advertise in the short TikTok format for a very low cost.. these viral grassroots influencers are relatively cheap.
Clearly worth it lol.

Any one of these influencers can say some wild shit and cause an uproar that cannot be contained.

At least when you shoot some expensive commercials you can control the narrative and company image. And if the sponsor goes off the rails then you just drop them and move on.

Granted they picked this one so there is that.
 

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Bud light will not recover from this...Mark my words.

I could care less what someone "identifies" as. Not my monkey, not my circus.

This should be a lesson in marketing and knowing your demographic.

Bud Light is blue collar beer. They won't come back, ever.

CL is about to post huge gains. Might be time to buy some stock.
 

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I could careless if they made Dana a can. She is not trying to force things on people. She is not out being a cartoon characature of a woman. She is not talking about tampons. She is and always has been, as far as I can tell, a gearhead. She does not brag about being a women, the only thing I can think of her bragging (and I wouldn't call it bragging if I could think of a better word, is her flatty and how it's running.

So is everyone boycotting the can? The company? Or Dylan mulvaney?

(See the point?)
 

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We did do a spoof off of only fans recently which was called “only tans”. The dudes shirt which never made it to print said “only cans”.

Didn’t do a bud light one though..
might be perfect timing for a rerun of the coors light shirts😁
 

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Two things.. one I’m not twisting facts I’m choosing to recognize.. on the second there’s an old saying those that don’t stand for something stand for nothing. Lol.
And a lot of your members are standing up for our children right now and what schools, companies, and media are saying is acceptable.

Not saying you’re not doing that when you look at this situation from a different angle but that is our reasoning. So yes! We are standing for something.
 

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I think Dave just said we’re all a Basket of Deplorable's.

Nope.. I said actually think for yourself. I couldn’t make the point more clearly than I did in the post before this one.

Nobody would care if AB made a can for one of our own members. But everyone cares because it was done for Dylan mulvaney. What is the difference between the two situations? What are you actually angry about?
 

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Clearly worth it lol.

Any one of these influencers can say some wild shit and cause an uproar that cannot be contained.

At least when you shoot some expensive commercials you can control the narrative and company image. And if the sponsor goes off the rails then you just drop them and move on.

Granted they picked this one so there is that.

ESG..

They don’t care. Dylan didn’t do anything out of line. AB is being painted as victims by most of the media. That will gain them lots of free advertising. They will be fine, their stock price will be fine. Like I said.. they will bribe most people back, on into the arms of another AB brand. 🤣.

They are a blue collar beer and BL is only down 8% for the year.
 
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And a lot of your members are standing up for our children right now and what schools, companies, and media are saying is acceptable.

Not saying you’re not doing that when you look at this situation from a different angle but that is our reasoning. So yes! We are standing for something.

How so? Are they taking the time to join the school boards and get involved? Or does posting their displeasure on a boating website count as standing up?

Stacy asked me to join the school board out here and get some others to do the same to affect change. Im going to try and do just that
 

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The cans are usually wrapped. From
What I was told It was one can. I have been so busy Robert I honestly haven’t had time to go down the media news outlets (which as we all know are usually incorrect anyways) to see if it was a six pack or one can. Employees at Romer said it was one.. I have no reason to doubt them. That all said one can or six? Do you know how many cans go down each assembly at each plant per hour? Or a better question.. do we know who else received commemorative cans that month? Or this year? Or over the last decade?

RD
I really don’t care WHO got custom wrapped/printed cans. They can be ordered, that is what occurred for this guy.
It could one can, but the video created and pics posted make it look like more. I was told from my AB corporate buddy, it was a custom printed/wrapped 6-pack. I think the continued fallout was the marketing person insulting BL drinkers in that interview.

End of day, it occurred and a large % of loyal BL drinkers did not like it. Just like the left does to businesses, folks are choosing to spend money on other brands. You read about the BBQ restaurant in the OC the ‘left‘ want closed, because they play the National Anthem at noon each day and most patrons stand when it is played. Same thing. Don’t like it go elsewhere and spend money, but stop bitching about what a business does.

I have said since day 1, this BL issue, impact the daily AB workers more then anyone else.
 

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Two things.. one I’m not twisting facts I’m choosing to recognize.. on the second there’s an old saying those that don’t stand for something stand for nothing. Lol.

This is what you're not recognizing.



This is from the Federalist, it's not a conspiracy rag by any means and for them to publish it, speaks volumes AND gives credence to what many of us have been saying for years.


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AB is supporting it, whether they want to admit it or not, along with every other corporate whore who plays the ESG game, while worshiping the all mighty dollar alter.


I look at it as AB not having the balls to do the right thing and denounce their soft support of the degeneracy.
 

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I really don’t care WHO got custom wrapped/printed cans. They can be ordered, that is what occurred for this guy.
It could one can, but the video created and pics posted make it look like more. I was told from my AB corporate buddy, it was a custom printed/wrapped 6-pack. I think the continued fallout was the marketing person insulting BL drinkers in that interview.

End of day, it occurred and a large % of loyal BL drinkers did not like it. Just like the left does to businesses, folks are choosing to spend money on other brands. You read about the BBQ restaurant in the OC the ‘left‘ want closed, because they play the National Anthem at noon each day and most patrons stand when it is played. Same thing. Don’t like it go elsewhere and spend money, but stop bitching about what a business does.

I have said since day 1, this BL issue, impact the daily AB workers more then anyone else.

And the person that came up with that idea is no longer employed, and the person who approved that idea and did that interview is no longer employed.. soooo
 
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