Brittney Griner Trial

[$hot]

She should have went to the Middle East and played. We wouldn’t be having the discussion about getting her out of jail. She would be coming back in a casket for being gay.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Arrest or Detention of a U.S. Citizen Abroad

One of the highest priorities of the Department of State and U.S. embassies and consulates abroad is to provide assistance to U.S. citizens incarcerated abroad.

travel.state.gov

"One of the highest priorities of the Department of State and U.S. embassies and consulates abroad is to provide assistance to U.S. citizens incarcerated abroad. The Department of State is committed to ensuring fair and humane treatment for U.S. citizens imprisoned overseas."

Just like the DOJ/DHS is supposed to enforce border policies and just like they're supposed to stop people protesting and harassing judges outside their homes.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

The US has a well established history of helping its citizens out of international jail, even a full blown military assault on the Modelo Prison in Panama to get Kurt Muse out.

Detained Americans Fast Facts | CNN

Read CNN's Fast Facts about recent cases of foreign governments detaining US citizens.

www.cnn.com

My whole point to all of this, she wouldn't be receiving any of the vitriol from RDP if she wasn't a rabid BLM supporter. If Candace Owens was jailed overseas over very minor charges, RDP would be calling for SEAL Team 6 and 1st SFOD-D to hit the prison simultaneously.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

If Otto Warmbier were smarter than a rock, he would be alive today. Fair to say or not?

Just because another country has laws on the books, doesn't mean those laws are just. If Dave Rubin and his husband went to Saudi Arabia and were prosecuted and sentenced to death for homosexuality, should the US respond by saying "tough shit, shouldn't have broken their laws?" As a major player on the world stage, the US State Department should be involved in ensuring that US Citizens are treated in a reasonable manner, regardless of their political views and opinions about America.

Turn that around...... Its legal for a woman to get stoned to death in certain Arab countries for not wearing their proper clothing. Would it be ok for an Arab couple to come here and the wife not wear her Hijab so her husband stoned her to death? But its legal in their country? (Not completely sure about the legalities in that example in the other countries, using it as more of a general comparison is all).

 

[USMC2010]

So, what about Paul Whelan?

 

[USMC2010]

Anyone hear about Marc Fogel?

 

[2Driver]

If Candace Owens was jailed overseas over very minor charges, RDP would be calling for SEAL Team 6 and 1st SFOD-D to hit the prison simultaneously.

But she’s worth it.

 

[TeamGreene]

The US has a well established history of helping its citizens out of international jail, even a full blown military assault on the Modelo Prison in Panama to get Kurt Muse out.

Detained Americans Fast Facts | CNN

Read CNN's Fast Facts about recent cases of foreign governments detaining US citizens.

www.cnn.com

My whole point to all of this, she wouldn't be receiving any of the vitriol from RDP if she wasn't a rabid BLM supporter. If Candace Owens was jailed overseas over very minor charges, RDP would be calling for SEAL Team 6 and 1st SFOD-D to hit the prison simultaneously.

Honestly I'd never heard of her until the news broke and I didn't know about her anti American BS until this thread. If CO was jailed and she willingly broke the law of the country she was in so be it. But man that's a huge IF.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Honestly I'd never heard of her until the news broke and I didn't know about her anti American BS until this thread. If CO was jailed and she willingly broke the law of the country she was in so be it. But man that's a huge IF.

I respect the principled position

 

[$hot]

The US has a well established history of helping its citizens out of international jail, even a full blown military assault on the Modelo Prison in Panama to get Kurt Muse out.

Detained Americans Fast Facts | CNN

Read CNN's Fast Facts about recent cases of foreign governments detaining US citizens.

www.cnn.com

My whole point to all of this, she wouldn't be receiving any of the vitriol from RDP if she wasn't a rabid BLM supporter. If Candace Owens was jailed overseas over very minor charges, RDP would be calling for SEAL Team 6 and 1st SFOD-D to hit the prison simultaneously.

I think there’s an inherent risk going to other countries, Americans have a pompous attitude towards laws we don’t believe in. Conservative or Liberal I think you should be well educated in the laws of the land that you are going to. I won’t go to rocky point because I can’t bring a gun, I’m sure as hell not going to sneak it’s down and get thrown in prison. Same think in this instance, she fucked up… and as much as she thinks that substance isn’t a big deal, it is there. Most women that are white that went to Iraq followed the laws and cultures and wore a hijab.

No matter who you are, it’s a much safer bet to just follow the laws where you are.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Asking for a friend, did Otto Warmbier get what he deserves? He broke the law in North Korea, and was punished accordingly to their laws. Did the Trump admin do the right thing by securing his release?

I am no fan of Brittney Griner, but her saying things that I don't like about America (protected by the first amendment) doesn't mean that she deserves any percentage of what she may get. She fucked up, she broke the law in Russia. The possibility of 10 years in a Russian prison for 0.45 grams of hash oil is ridiculous. There are entire threads on RDP about people growing their own pot, quantities much higher than 0.45 grams.

Respectfully, I don't see the comparison as a stretch. Russian prisons are not known for being kind places, wouldn't be entirely a stretch to think that she could be beat to death in a Russian prison too. Especially with people in this thread hoping she goes to a mens prison to be raped, crosses a line for me.

Responded above about the comparison to people growing, it is federally illegal just like Hash oil is federally illegal, and illegal in Russia.

I grow LEGALLY! It is a state choice not federal!! Once you leave the country it becomes federal!!

I stand for the Flag and I stand for the National Anthem!! I love my country, I dont talk shit about it on national tv and then want "special treatment"!!

And I dont travel internationally with weed because I KNOW THAT IS ILLEGAL!! She knew it was illegal, she knew she was doing wrong!!

What more needs said?

Why are we trying to be "lenient" with her? Because she is a sports star? Would you feel the same if was a normal citizen?

Is 10yrs extreme, to me yes, was the law known when she decided to ignore it

I just dont get it

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

The US has a well established history of helping its citizens out of international jail, even a full blown military assault on the Modelo Prison in Panama to get Kurt Muse out.

Detained Americans Fast Facts | CNN

Read CNN's Fast Facts about recent cases of foreign governments detaining US citizens.

www.cnn.com

My whole point to all of this, she wouldn't be receiving any of the vitriol from RDP if she wasn't a rabid BLM supporter. If Candace Owens was jailed overseas over very minor charges, RDP would be calling for SEAL Team 6 and 1st SFOD-D to hit the prison simultaneously.

Candice Owens doesnt hate the country she lives in and then turn around and ask for help!!

You make the bed you lye in!!

I dont wish her any ill.. but she should be on her own to deal with this one..jmo

 

[Ace in the Hole]

First off she gets what she deserves for being so stupid and I could give a rats ass about her but for the life of me I can't figure her mentality to wear that Jimi Hendrix shirt to court and now a Nipsey Hustle shirt. Why is her lawyer letting her wear pot smoking musicians shirts to court. If I was facing 10 years for pot I would have a 3 piece suit on.

She thought she would be treated like she was in the US, the country she hates soooooo much. Well she thought wrong, and karma reared it’s head.

Unfortunately Putin is far smarter than our pedo president and will use her in a prisoner swap and she will return a hero vs the criminal she is.

 

[HST4ME]

Couldn't care less what happens to shim.

 

[Looking Glass]

Asking for a friend, did Otto Warmbier get what he deserves? He broke the law in North Korea, and was punished accordingly to their laws. Did the Trump admin do the right thing by securing his release?

I am no fan of Brittney Griner, but her saying things that I don't like about America (protected by the first amendment) doesn't mean that she deserves any percentage of what she may get. She fucked up, she broke the law in Russia. The possibility of 10 years in a Russian prison for 0.45 grams of hash oil is ridiculous. There are entire threads on RDP about people growing their own pot, quantities much higher than 0.45 grams.

What does it matter if she had 0.45 grams OR 45 Lbs? SHe is over in Russia and broke their Laws. We are providing Ukraine with weapons to defeat Putin and kill his Soldiers. WTF makes you think he gives a damn about some 2-Bit Basketball Player who disrespected their laws and rules. The crazy part about this whole deal, is now her Wife/Husband is demanding Action and a release from Russia. She is Pissed that Biden is not doing enough to satisfy her.

This will give her time to think about Laws and even maybe respect our Flag and Military that gave her the incredible opportunity to make the kind of money she was making.
She can sit over there for a very long time IMO. What have you done for our Country Lately?

 

[OCMerrill]

She should have been caught here before the plane even left. The TSA failed to find it. Perhaps she went through the TSA check in the I hate America, I'm famous, I'm gay, Fuck America line.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That should be teaching lesson number 1.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

If this was anyone of us, the Russians would lock us up and throw away the key and no one else would care. The only reason she is getting any media is because of her privilege as a tertiary celebrity. Yes, she's a pawn and was arrested after the US started sanctions on Russia. Welcome to the party pal.

 

[mbrown2]

No one is saying that Americans should be able to break the law internationally. She broke the law and should be accordingly punished. 10 years in a Russian prison for less that 0.5g of hash oil is not reasonable, that deserves a citation and a fine, move on. Don't confuse me with people saying that she didn't do anything wrong, she fucked up 100%

Reasonable where? Just cause our laws may state one thing their laws differ. It comes across as arrogant for the US to somehow enforce our laws/beliefs on others. Know and obey the laws where you travel and understand just because it was "NOT" intentional may not make a difference in that country. How long have we heard stories of people being sent away to the Gulag ....guess what you are in a communist country ...US Laws and reasoning do not apply.

Sportin Wood said it earlier...when people get locked up abroad and are convicted or admit guilt I don't think it is the US's role to play public defender ....now if they were unjustly accused well I think we should oversee the welfare of our citizens...but if they broke the law...you are on your own.

 

[The Prisoner]

Shes a waste. However, I would make a trade. Send that MeganRapinoe ho in her stead. Medal of Freedom my ass. What’s the country com…… never mind

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Fuck that bitch....go sit back down while WE sing this....O'er the land of the FREEEEEEE.....and the hooome, of the braaaaaveee..

 

[Hardly Satisfied]

Hope she gets locked up for a long time

 

[The Prisoner]

Fuck that bitch....go sit back down while WE sing this....O'er the land of the FREEEEEEE.....and the hooome, of the braaaaaveee..

Hear. Hear. Where you can smoke all the resin you want.

 

[The Prisoner]

Hope she gets locked up for a long time

Old KGB prison cell. Not very nice

 

[paradise]

View attachment 1134023
Old KGB prison cell. Not very nice

Hey at least there's a projector for movie nights?

 

[Danger Dave]

"I'm not watching any WNBA games until she's freed." - Regor

 

[The Prisoner]

Hey at least there's a projector for movie nights?

Yes. Great for lesbo munch Monday Movie marathon.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Fuck that bitch....go sit back down while WE sing this....O'er the land of the FREEEEEEE.....and the hooome, of the braaaaaveee..

and the perfect time for this clip, starting at this moment....

 

[Travmon]

First off she gets what she deserves for being so stupid and I could give a rats ass about her but for the life of me I can't figure her mentality to wear that Jimi Hendrix shirt to court and now a Nipsey Hustle shirt. Why is her lawyer letting her wear pot smoking musicians shirts to court. If I was facing 10 years for pot I would have a 3 piece suit on.

Stupid is what stupid does !

 

[USMC2010]

View attachment 1134023
Old KGB prison cell. Not very nice

It is supposed to be punishment. Maybe our prisons could use a makeover.

 

[USMC2010]

and the perfect time for this clip, starting at this moment....

awesome clip

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Respectfully, I don't see the comparison as a stretch. Russian prisons are not known for being kind places, wouldn't be entirely a stretch to think that she could be beat to death in a Russian prison too. Especially with people in this thread hoping she goes to a mens prison to be raped, crosses a line for me.

Responded above about the comparison to people growing, it is federally illegal just like Hash oil is federally illegal, and illegal in Russia.

Sorry, I think we meant sodomized... Better?

 

[Travmon]

No one is saying that Americans should be able to break the law internationally. She broke the law and should be accordingly punished. 10 years in a Russian prison for less that 0.5g of hash oil is not reasonable, that deserves a citation and a fine, move on. Don't confuse me with people saying that she didn't do anything wrong, she fucked up 100%

So now you want to write the laws to fit an american take on weed ? Their country their laws . Know before you go ! And you will always get more support from your country if you do not previously throw said country under the BUS ! Try pissing off the chef before he cooks your dinner , yea the chef should have ethics BUT do you really trust that meal ?

 

[spectra3279]

So now you want to write the laws to fit an american take on weed ? Their country their laws . Know before you go ! And you will always get more support from your country if you do not previously throw said country under the BUS ! Try pissing off the chef before he cooks your dinner , yea the chef should have ethics BUT do you really trust that meal ?

You did not piss off the personelman or the cooks in the navy. You do, your fucked.

 

[500bbc]

Now that she's plead guilty and admitted to possessing the oil, the real question is whether or not all of her supporters will recant after screaming that she was wrongfully detained...

No

 

[500bbc]

H

If the punishment fits the crime, leave me to rot. If the punishment does not fit the crime, I would hope the state department is involved through the embassy to help me.

Have you seen the videos of all the methheads, opioid addicts and heroin addicts living in the streets across Russia?


Me neither...

 

[Looking Glass]

The US has a well established history of helping its citizens out of international jail, even a full blown military assault on the Modelo Prison in Panama to get Kurt Muse out.

Detained Americans Fast Facts | CNN

Read CNN's Fast Facts about recent cases of foreign governments detaining US citizens.

www.cnn.com

My whole point to all of this, she wouldn't be receiving any of the vitriol from RDP if she wasn't a rabid BLM supporter. If Candace Owens was jailed overseas over very minor charges, RDP would be calling for SEAL Team 6 and 1st SFOD-D to hit the prison simultaneously.

"Apples To Oranges"

 

[Sportin' Wood]

https://reason.com/2019/10/11/russi...to-7-5-years-in-prison-for-nine-grams-of-pot/

Russia has done this before, don't fuck around. I did a quick search to look and see what other EU countries might be doing for sentences. Greece seems pretty hardcore with 7.5 to 10 years for small amounts of pot. If they get you for smuggling they get more aggressive.

It appears that 3-10 years is the guidance in Russia for this crime. Yep, they threw the book at her, but the sentence guidance does allow for up to 10 years.

It does seem ironic that she hates America yet now wants America to help. "We the People" are America. Yes, if "We the People" think she should be saved then we should save her. So it does seem true that if she was a likable person who Americans wanted to be saved things might be different.

It really pains me when people don't accept ownership for their actions. Especially when you try and disconnect hate for America and hate for "We the People" For me it has nothing to do with her skin, gender, or sexual orientation. She hates me it appears, so should I save her? Sorry, I really don't care if she rots, because I suspect if the table was turned she would not lift a finger to help me.

 

[johnnyC]

I think she thought she could do what she wanted with impunity because of who she thinks she is. the reality is you don't fuck around in foreign country's, back in 1998 i went on a hunting trip in russia wile waiting in the terminal in petropolisk (locked in) they called my name and said they had an issue with my firearm I immediately just about shit my pants all i could think was i was going to siberia... luckly they just needed to verify the serial #
that situation was enough for me when you visit a forgin country you are at their mercy

 

[USMC2010]

https://reason.com/2019/10/11/russi...to-7-5-years-in-prison-for-nine-grams-of-pot/

Russia has done this before, don't fuck around. I did a quick search to look and see what other EU countries might be doing for sentences. Greece seems pretty hardcore with 7.5 to 10 years for small amounts of pot. If they get you for smuggling they get more aggressive.

It appears that 3-10 years is the guidance in Russia for this crime. Yep, they threw the book at her, but the sentence guidance does allow for up to 10 years.

It does seem ironic that she hates America yet now wants America to help. "We the People" are America. Yes, if "We the People" think she should be saved then we should save her. So it does seem true that if she was a likable person who Americans wanted to be saved things might be different.

It really pains me when people don't accept ownership for their actions. Especially when you try and disconnect hate for America and hate for "We the People" For me it has nothing to do with her skin, gender, or sexual orientation. She hates me it appears, so should I save her? Sorry, I really don't care if she rots, because I suspect if the table was turned she would not lift a finger to help me.

They do not appear to me to be throwing the book at her. I posted the question earlier, who is Marc Fogel. He was a teacher at the US embassy in Moscow that smuggled some amounts of marijuana and cannabis oils and got 14 years last fall. She is facing what, 10? We wouldn't even know her name if she wasn't a dirtbag on prime time tv.

 

[Looking Glass]

I just watched an Expert on Russia and their way of doing things/Justice. He said if you are charged, you Will be convicted and the Sentence is 10 years. He also stated that messing with the Russian Legal System about the amount of drugs and she didn't intend to break their Laws, just irritates the Court and she made a terrible error in thinking she was above the law which is often the case here in the U.S. The fact that we are at a Small Step below all-out War with Russia, sure is not going to help her. In closing, he said that there is nothing that he can see that would be in Putin's interest to make a deal with her.

 

[The Prisoner]

Anyone remember Midnight Express??

 

[Roosky01]

She did the crime and now she’ll do the time. Simple as that. She’s not a political prisoner and anyone feeling sorry for her needs to think about what they’d do/expect in the same situation?

If she was being railroaded it would be one thing. She is not, so let’s just forget about her and move on.

 

[Orange Juice]

Last year she complained how shitty Russian weed was, and packed her own this time around.
KGB was pissed, and here we are.

 

[buck35]

No one is saying that Americans should be able to break the law internationally. She broke the law and should be accordingly punished. 10 years in a Russian prison for less that 0.5g of hash oil is not reasonable, that deserves a citation and a fine, move on. Don't confuse me with people saying that she didn't do anything wrong, she fucked up 100%

In America..she dislikes the place and well, Maybe it's not so bad . Too bad for her. Boo fukkin hoo.

 

[Badchoices03]

I think there’s an inherent risk going to other countries, Americans have a pompous attitude towards laws we don’t believe in. Conservative or Liberal I think you should be well educated in the laws of the land that you are going to. I won’t go to rocky point because I can’t bring a gun, I’m sure as hell not going to sneak it’s down and get thrown in prison. Same think in this instance, she fucked up… and as much as she thinks that substance isn’t a big deal, it is there. Most women that are white that went to Iraq followed the laws and cultures and wore a hijab.

No matter who you are, it’s a much safer bet to just follow the laws where you are.

I had to go the Middle East once for work, to spend a few weeks there a year....before I went, my company put me through training on the laws and customs of the area I was going to be in....had to take a test and sign that I understood

 

[RitcheyRch]

I had to go the Middle East once for work, to spend a few weeks there a year....before I went, my company put me through training on the laws and customs of the area I was going to be in....had to take a test and sign that I understood

I had to do the same when I went to Singapore and Japan.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

She's a total anti-American POS.

But, 10 years for some weed?

Would you guys feel the same way if this happened to Kid Rock? lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The US has a well established history of helping its citizens out of international jail, even a full blown military assault on the Modelo Prison in Panama to get Kurt Muse out.

Detained Americans Fast Facts | CNN

Read CNN's Fast Facts about recent cases of foreign governments detaining US citizens.

www.cnn.com

My whole point to all of this, she wouldn't be receiving any of the vitriol from RDP if she wasn't a rabid BLM supporter. If Candace Owens was jailed overseas over very minor charges, RDP would be calling for SEAL Team 6 and 1st SFOD-D to hit the prison simultaneously.

I don’t support saving either of them. Don’t do dumb shit in other countries.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

She's a total anti-American POS.

But, 10 years for some weed?

Would you guys feel the same way if this happened to Kid Rock? lol

Yes. Just because you don't respect the laws of other countries does not mean other countries are not serious about enforcing their laws.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Yes. Just because you don't respect the laws of other countries does not mean other countries are not serious about enforcing their laws.

I totally agree.... But 10 years? lol