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You would think so...
The over all length of the MH and trailer requires a CDL, well in California at least. The pickup and trailer requires a noncommercial class A
 

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The over all length of the MH and trailer requires a CDL, well in California at least. The pickup and trailer requires a noncommercial class A
A Class A commercial driver's license is required to operate any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 lbs. or more, to include a towed vehicle that is HEAVIER than 10,000 lbs.
 

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A Class A commercial driver's license is required to operate any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 lbs. or more, to include a towed vehicle that is HEAVIER than 10,000 lbs.
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Didn't realize that F350 had air brakes View attachment 1186396
I am pretty sure that dozer is over 10,000 lbs.

ETA I have never heard of a non commercial class A. I knew they had some weird laws in lala land but ok, I guess.

ETAagain: It's a meme, don't take it so seriously.
 
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I am pretty sure that dozer is over 10,000 lbs.

ETA I have never heard of a non commercial class A. I knew they had some weird laws in lala land but ok, I guess.
So you have to have a commercial license towing a 5th wheel over 10,000lbs? In California the most restrictive state you do not, as a matter of fact you will only need a noncommercial license once it weighs 15k.
 

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So you have to have a commercial license towing a 5th wheel over 10,000lbs? In California the most restrictive state you do not, as a matter of fact you will only need a noncommercial license once it weighs 15k.
If the total weight is over 26,000 lbs (truck and trailer) or the trailer is over 10,000 lbs technically yes. Some states have a endorsement or exemption. That is my understanding. I could be wrong of course. But I think there is a loop hole with traveling which is the point of the meme to begin with. You don't need anything special to drive the motorhome pulling a trailer as long as the trailer is less than 10,000 lbs. and it isn't used for commercial purpose.
 

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So you have to have a commercial license towing a 5th wheel over 10,000lbs? In California the most restrictive state you do not, as a matter of fact you will only need a noncommercial license once it weighs 15k.
Here's what I know about AZ, as of a few months ago: If the trailer and truck's combined gvwr is over 26k, you're supposed to have a CDL. State trooper lit me up going to the dump, friend's 1 ton towing another friends gooseneck dump. I had been helping a neighbor clear his property, 80yo disabled vet.

Weight on axles, actual weight, I was legit. Sticker on trailer neck nearly F'd me. Cop let me go, and trailer owner now has a different sticker that makes his trailer legal. Turns out, if you ask real nice, the young lady answering the phone at the manufacturer can help you out.
 

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So you have to have a commercial license towing a 5th wheel over 10,000lbs? In California the most restrictive state you do not, as a matter of fact you will only need a noncommercial license once it weighs 15k.
Many guys at my work (in Cali) argue that technically you need a class A non commercial over if towing over 10k. If that's true the cops must not care...... otherwise dude's would be pulled over all along the 86 along Salton Sea heading out to Glamis & Ocotillo.......and everywhere else. My bumper pull TH is 10.5 loaded......🤨
Who knows where to find the current law on this one?
 

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Many guys at my work (in Cali) argue that technically you need a class A non commercial over if towing over 10k. If that's true the cops must not care...... otherwise dude's would be pulled over all along the 86 along Salton Sea heading out to Glamis & Ocotillo.......and everywhere else. My bumper pull TH is 10.5 loaded......🤨
Who knows where to find the current law on this one?
If it's a tag trailer it's 10k or over
 

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The over all length of the MH and trailer requires a CDL, well in California at least. The pickup and trailer requires a noncommercial class A
The motor home requires a Non commercial class A.

The pickup requires a commercial class A. As it is hauling equipment.

The non commercial class A is for RVs only. You can't tow a flatbed with a truck or equipment on it with a truck with a non commercial class A.

Non commercial class A is required for a rv being towed over 9,999 lbs or 14,999 lbs with fifth wheel or goose neck.
 

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Many guys at my work (in Cali) argue that technically you need a class A non commercial over if towing over 10k. If that's true the cops must not care...... otherwise dude's would be pulled over all along the 86 along Salton Sea heading out to Glamis & Ocotillo.......and everywhere else. My bumper pull TH is 10.5 loaded......🤨
Who knows where to find the current law on this one?
If your bumper pull RV is rated over 9,999 lbs you need a non commercial class A. I never had a problem towing mine. But technically if I got pulled over I would of been screwed. Majority of toy haulers require a non commercial class A.
 

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If your bumper pull RV is rated over 9,999 lbs you need a non commercial class A. I never had a problem towing mine. But technically if I got pulled over I would of been screwed. Majority of toy haulers require a non commercial class A.

I know you guys are debating CA laws, but in Florida we don't need to worry about it. This is the back of my license.

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The motor home requires a Non commercial class A.

The pickup requires a commercial class A. As it is hauling equipment.

The non commercial class A is for RVs only. You can't tow a flatbed with a truck or equipment on it with a truck with a non commercial class A.

Non commercial class A is required for a rv being towed over 9,999 lbs or 14,999 lbs with fifth wheel or goose neck.
If your bumper pull RV is rated over 9,999 lbs you need a non commercial class A. I never had a problem towing mine. But technically if I got pulled over I would of been screwed. Majority of toy haulers require a non commercial class A.
RV endorsement gets you to either 12.5k or 15k (I cant remember which) without anyother license in CA.
 
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