Barron Boats? New Deck and CC coming.

[Outdrive1]

I’d go old school and call it Silver Wing Boats.


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[Cole Trickle]

I’d go old school and call it Silver Wing Boats.


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Doesn’t Wilkes own the molds and name?

 

[Outdrive1]

Doesn’t Wilkes own the molds and name?

No clue. Does he have the original 270?


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[riverroyal]

So when can we buy magics again?
Blah blah.....id still buy from nordic, solid proven track record.

 

[Runs2rch]

No clue. Does he have the original 270?


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Bud Bailey owned the 27 and the 34 which were Silverwing. He sold them to Nick.

 

[Runs2rch]

I heard he has the 24, 30, 32, 26 deck, 27 cat, 29 first gen, and the 27 step bottom. Not sure which one.

 

[funkcity]

I heard he has the 24, 30, 32, 26 deck, 27 cat, 29 first gen, and the 27 step bottom. Not sure which one.

So you guys are saying:
Shirley sells the Hallett name and Hallett boats to Nordic.
Jerry an employee starts a new version of Barron Boats with Barron-owned molds....or new ones?
Add the Vector to the Bud Bailey 27, 20, 32, 34 and deck boats....and you can now do business.
If Jimmy is still there to build and Gelcoater is there to paint you are back in biz...with more capital from the sale to work with.
How cool is that?
I wonder what ever happened to the 54 footer?

 

[Hammer]

So you guys are saying:
Shirley sells the Hallett name and Hallett boats to Nordic.
Jerry an employee starts a new version of Barron Boats with Barron-owned molds....or new ones?
Add the Vector to the Bud Bailey 27, 20, 32, 34 and deck boats....and you can now do business.
If Jimmy is still there to build and Gelcoater is there to paint you are back in biz...with more capital from the sale to work with.
How cool is that?
I wonder what ever happened to the 54 footer?

Jerry doesn’t have the Bud Bailey 27 or the Vector molds. The rumor was the 240 mold was modified to build the 255.




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[BHC Vic]

Where’s the guy that knew Hallett was for sale. He seemed to know quite a bit

 

[nowski]

It all sounds like a "Win Win" situation to me. Baron building Baron boats, Nick Baron would be proud. The Hallett name continues, Rich Hallett would be proud. In a strange twist of fate The Legends Live...

 

[RiverDave]

You know you would think for a guy that fought as hard for Jerry as I did during that buy out, I wouldn't have to read shit like this on Facebook, or a thread on my own website. I put it to the brink of my own income to try and set that guy up..

Glad you took my advice on the Center Consoles Jerry! You are welcome.

RD

 

[milkmoney]

You know you would think for a guy that fought as hard for Jerry as I did during that buy out, I wouldn't have to read shit like this on Facebook, or a thread on my own website. I put it to the brink of my own income to try and set that guy up..

Glad you took my advice on the Center Consoles Jerry! You are welcome.

RD

Did u also tell eliminator to build a CC,
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[AZMIDLYF]

Are these CCs of the size to capitalize on the 400R juggernaut?

 

[hallett21]

Did u also tell eliminator to build a CC,
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Whatever happened to that? They had a rendering then nothing happened.


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[RiverDave]

Did u also tell eliminator to build a CC,
[emoji47] [emoji202]


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I have been telling anyone that would listen for the last two years to build cc’s

 

[RiverDave]

Whatever happened to that? They had a rendering then nothing happened.


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They are making the 30 eagle a cc and that giant cat a cc

 

[Gelcoater]

Glad you took my advice on the Center Consoles Jerry! You are welcome.

RD

I been telling him to do a CC for a couple of years now, lol.

 

[milkmoney]

Whatever happened to that? They had a rendering then nothing happened.


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I think it's coming .... is all I can say [emoji202]

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[Gelcoater]

I think it's coming .... is all I can say [emoji202]

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In....2 weeks.

 

[Livewire Fabworks]

You know you would think for a guy that fought as hard for Jerry as I did during that buy out, I wouldn't have to read shit like this on Facebook, or a thread on my own website. I put it to the brink of my own income to try and set that guy up..

Glad you took my advice on the Center Consoles Jerry! You are welcome.

RD

Dave,
Let me start off by saying that in no way do I mean to offend you, and maybe it is my bias as a Hallett owner as tou are as well so take it with a grain of salt.

I have noticed that lately through you boat show thread and some comments that were made on other Facebook sites, that you have said things about the Hallett brand and about the quality of their boats vs Nordics. Believe me I am not saying anyone needs to picks sides since I believe Nordic builds an awesome boat and if Hallett had to sell, Nordic was probably the best company they could sell to. Heck, I am even taking my boat there for its first service.

With the way some of you comments came accross to me at least is that Hallett built ok boats but now that Nordic owns them, they are going to be way better boats. Being that Jerry put his heart and soul into Hallett I could see where this would maybe put a bad taste in his mouth. Anyone that truly cares about there business (Which he viewed as his) should be expected to take this personal. Not saying this is the case but can you see where that might happen?

 

[nowski]

I have been telling anyone that would listen for the last two years to build cc’s

For all those boat manufacturers that have listened, have you invested cash into any of those companies. IMO, that's where the rubber meets the road and where your voice can be more than heard...

 

[BHC Vic]

I jokingly said it’s on fb. All the cheerleading Dave does makes me wonder What his intentions are. I’m not hating that he gets hooked up because rightfully he should. But too much cheerleading makes people wonder. Especially when Hallett has always been considered top tier and I’m not so sure Nordic always has been. Maybe they are now but to me it was always Hallett eliminator dcb. I guess Nordic is in there now but I have a hard time just writing Hallett off.

 

[Outdrive1]

Are these CCs of the size to capitalize on the 400R juggernaut?

I think Mercury will have bigger than a 400 to offer this year.


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[Runs2rch]

Back to molds and destroying them. The 30 is out there. No way it was destroyed. Same with the rumor of the 24 being modified into the 255.

The same was said when it became the 245. Jerry is smart. I am sure he had ownership of some of the molds.

I hate this saying, but he had skin in the game for sure. I hope he does well and can't wait to see what he brings out.

 

[Runs2rch]

I think Mercury will have bigger than a 400 to offer this year.


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Outboards are def the way of the future.

 

[guest hs]

I jokingly said it’s on fb. All the cheerleading Dave does makes me wonder What his intentions are. I’m not hating that he gets hooked up because rightfully he should. But too much cheerleading makes people wonder. Especially when Hallett has always been considered top tier and I’m not so sure Nordic always has been. Maybe they are now but to me it was always Hallett eliminator dcb. I guess Nordic is in there now but I have a hard time just writing Hallett off.

Ummm you are forgetting Boats like Howard, Cole and Schiada. These to me are top tier boats!

 

[Gelcoater]

Jerry doesn’t have the Bud Bailey 27 or the Vector molds. The rumor was the 240 mold was modified to build the 255.




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The 255 mold wasn't a modified 240 mold.
When molds are cut and pasted together it's pretty apparent looking at the outer structures.
The 255 was its own mold.
Yes the plug for that mold probably started as a 240. But a dedicated 255 mold was made. In fact, 2 of them. A closed bow and a dedicated walk through open bow.
Myth busted.

 

[mesquito_creek]

Accepting bid / offers on my Eliminator "Center Console"... Turn key and lake ready!

 

[wsuwrhr]

The 255 mold wasn't a modified 240 mold.
When molds are cut and pasted together it's pretty apparent looking at the outer structures.

In my second life at American Eagle wheels I explained to the newbies when they brushed off a mistake/imperfection in the mold. No it isn't just THIS part that isn't right, it is the THOUSANDS of parts pulled from this mold that aren't going to be right.

 

[Done-it-again]

Back to molds and destroying them. The 30 is out there. No way it was destroyed. Same with the rumor of the 24 being modified into the 255.

The same was said when it became the 245. Jerry is smart. I am sure he had ownership of some of the molds.

I hate this saying, but he had skin in the game for sure. I hope he does well and can't wait to see what he brings out.

I've herd the roomer as well, the 240 bottom was changed for the 255 and the deck was destroyed..... But what do I know, I'm newer to the Hallett brand...

What I did feel is that Jerry wasn't the greatest sales person and a bit of an ass on the 1/2 dozen times I've talked to him.....His sister on the other hand seems like a great person and would talk all day at the old location off the 605.....Always thought they could sell more if Jerry wasn't in the front and behind the scenes. Maybe I have the wrong impression of him. But I do wish him luck and anxious to see what he comes up with.

 

[BHC Vic]

Ummm you are forgetting Boats like Howard, Cole and Schiada. These to me are top tier boats!

To me Howard was always second to Hallett. I was 10 and my “girlfriends” dad bought a Howard. Wanted a Hallett but could afford the Howard so that stuck w me. But yes Howard top tier. I don’t know anything about coles. Before my time I guess. I didn’t know what a schiada was till I signed up here. Nice boats but I’m still not sure I get the whole cult following

 

[milkmoney]

To me Howard was always second to Hallett. I was 10 and my “girlfriends” dad bought a Howard. Wanted a Hallett but could afford the Howard so that stuck w me. But yes Howard top tier. I don’t know anything about coles. Before my time I guess. I didn’t know what a schiada was till I signed up here. Nice boats but I’m still not sure I get the whole cult following

Lol cult following. [emoji202] [emoji6]

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[RiverDave]

Dave,
Let me start off by saying that in no way do I mean to offend you, and maybe it is my bias as a Hallett owner as tou are as well so take it with a grain of salt.

I have noticed that lately through you boat show thread and some comments that were made on other Facebook sites, that you have said things about the Hallett brand and about the quality of their boats vs Nordics. Believe me I am not saying anyone needs to picks sides since I believe Nordic builds an awesome boat and if Hallett had to sell, Nordic was probably the best company they could sell to. Heck, I am even taking my boat there for its first service.

With the way some of you comments came accross to me at least is that Hallett built ok boats but now that Nordic owns them, they are going to be way better boats. Being that Jerry put his heart and soul into Hallett I could see where this would maybe put a bad taste in his mouth. Anyone that truly cares about there business (Which he viewed as his) should be expected to take this personal. Not saying this is the case but can you see where that might happen?

I don’t disagree at all, and I could agree that it is a pill to swallow.. but the facts are the facts.

Dave,
Let me start off by saying that in no way do I mean to offend you, and maybe it is my bias as a Hallett owner as tou are as well so take it with a grain of salt.

I have noticed that lately through you boat show thread and some comments that were made on other Facebook sites, that you have said things about the Hallett brand and about the quality of their boats vs Nordics. Believe me I am not saying anyone needs to picks sides since I believe Nordic builds an awesome boat and if Hallett had to sell, Nordic was probably the best company they could sell to. Heck, I am even taking my boat there for its first service.

With the way some of you comments came accross to me at least is that Hallett built ok boats but now that Nordic owns them, they are going to be way better boats. Being that Jerry put his heart and soul into Hallett I could see where this would maybe put a bad taste in his mouth. Anyone that truly cares about there business (Which he viewed as his) should be expected to take this personal. Not saying this is the case but can you see where that might happen?

I can see how it is taken that way. Hallett has always built a great boat. My only purpose in discussing that is to say that the Hallett fans need notnworry about the future of the brand.

Nordic builds a top tier boat that literally is among the best in the industry.

 

[Dirtbag]

All I know is a new/old boat builder is on the scene. That means more competition. That means more innovation. That means better boats. We should all be happy as hell. Sounds to me like Jerry got fucked out of his inheritance so kudos to him on building his own. And center consoles on the west coast! Its about daman time. Been trying to tell Bob at Shockwave the same thing. And he wants to build fishing boats haaha

 

[oldschool]

Lol cult following. [emoji202] [emoji6]

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[hallett21]

To me Howard was always second to Hallett. I was 10 and my “girlfriends” dad bought a Howard. Wanted a Hallett but could afford the Howard so that stuck w me. But yes Howard top tier. I don’t know anything about coles. Before my time I guess. I didn’t know what a schiada was till I signed up here. Nice boats but I’m still not sure I get the whole cult following

Something that also gets forgotten is then vs now.

The time frame I think you're referencing Howard was building boats soaked in resin and glass that made them brick shit houses. Rode great but took a steam engine to get them moving. Same company today is building with synthetic materials (foam instead of wood) while Hallett was still using plywood and Doug fir.

I bleed Hallett so I'm biased and I'll admit it but my 90 vector is nothing like a 21 Nordic.

Before Randy Davis bought Nordic I would say they were considered the "affordable" boat.



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[hallett21]

Ironically Schiada builds an amazing 1970's boat [emoji6]

They are in the 21st century on the bigger stuff though.


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[rivermobster]

Fuck off Dave [emoji16]


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Best post in this thread.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Best post in this thread.

Which Dave?

 

[Cole Trickle]

Dave,
Let me start off by saying that in no way do I mean to offend you, and maybe it is my bias as a Hallett owner as tou are as well so take it with a grain of salt.

I have noticed that lately through you boat show thread and some comments that were made on other Facebook sites, that you have said things about the Hallett brand and about the quality of their boats vs Nordics. Believe me I am not saying anyone needs to picks sides since I believe Nordic builds an awesome boat and if Hallett had to sell, Nordic was probably the best company they could sell to. Heck, I am even taking my boat there for its first service.

With the way some of you comments came accross to me at least is that Hallett built ok boats but now that Nordic owns them, they are going to be way better boats. Being that Jerry put his heart and soul into Hallett I could see where this would maybe put a bad taste in his mouth. Anyone that truly cares about there business (Which he viewed as his) should be expected to take this personal. Not saying this is the case but can you see where that might happen?

To me Howard was always second to Hallett. I was 10 and my “girlfriends” dad bought a Howard. Wanted a Hallett but could afford the Howard so that stuck w me. But yes Howard top tier. I don’t know anything about coles. Before my time I guess. I didn’t know what a schiada was till I signed up here. Nice boats but I’m still not sure I get the whole cult following

You guys are both kidding yourself if you think a modern day Hallet is even in the same realm as a modern day Nordic.

Yes I would say that a 80's- 90's Hallett's were about as good as it got for the era Howard and Cole were there as well (Schiada and one off rigged Eliminators from DCB aside) but the issue is they are still essentially building that exact same boat today using old outdated methods and technology.

I'm not a brand cheerleader and to be honest I won't be running any builders stickers on my truck unless they wan't to sponsor me a boat and I can easily say that my Hallet that has been re rigged to a much nicer than anything that came from the factory is not even in the same ball park as a brand new Nordic,Howard,DCB or Eliminator.

Time marches on and Hallett hasn't really improved there boat in the last 10 years like others imho...

 

[BHC Vic]

Maybe the Nordic is nicer... if I had an open budget and the option between a 240/255 or a rage id chose the Hallett all day long. Call me crazy

 

[Cole Trickle]

Maybe the Nordic is nicer... if I had an open budget and the option between a 240/255 or a rage id chose the Hallett all day long. Call me crazy

you aren't crazy those are two completely different boats.

Where you would be crazy is if you could buy a brand new Nordic built 240/255 vs. a brand new Hallett built boat for the same price and you choose to have Hallett build it.

 

[DRYHEAT]

Which Dave?

Try to keep up Brian.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Try to keep up Brian.

No sweat, I ride kick start 2 strokes, use a non smart phone and row my own gears. Im good.

 

[CobraDave]

My 2 cents is I don’t understand the hype over a center console. I wouldn’t choose that layout over what’s out there now. I don’t think they would sell like some think.


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[shueman]

My 2 cents is I don’t understand the hype over a center console. I wouldn’t choose that layout over what’s out there now. I don’t think they would sell like some think.


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They are just Fishing Boats ... seat behind the captain has no view except for their backsides ...

 

[WhatExit?]

Livewire, FWIW, I get your take on it but I understood Dave's message to be, "Hallett made great boats and Nordic's ownership of them will give them the opportunity to add their style and what they see as improvements to an already high-quality boat"

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Wouldn't all assets be line itemed?

Not to familiar with acquiring companies but I imagine you don't have a 3 sentence page that says all assets are mine. Maybe that is how it happens.

Then how do you deal with personal money being involved.

Hypothetically let's say Nick Barron had no money in Barron Boats but used personal
Cash to build a mold etc. Then Nick rents the mold to Hallett or whatever.

When Hallett is sold that mold (or whatever you wanna think of) wouldn't be included unless specified no?
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I would have thought the same thing. That didn't appear to be the case. Talking to Thane at the show he wasn't sure what he had which boggles my mind. He did say that he was pretty sure that they had the Vector though.

I’d go old school and call it Silver Wing Boats.
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Have to get a Lembke/Fitchen in on that deal. If I am ever able to make my millions I will retire from the desk and resurrect the name.

Doesn’t Wilkes own the molds and name?

No clue. Does he have the original 270?

Wilkes doesn't own the name. The name actually is no longer in use so anyone could start a boat company called Silverwing today. Speed and Marine and associates out of Orange CA was the company owned by Lembke/Fitchen that built the Continentals and then the Silverwings. I have been trying to track down the original straight bottom 27 mold since the Hallett sale. Wilkes doesn't have it. Thane at the show said he didn't think they had it either. I always thought that Hallett had it but after the sale I wanted to at least keep tabs on the 27 and the 34. The Silverwing tunnel raceboat mold was destroyed. The Silverwing Tunnel non race mold is in FL Mike Mullins with Mirage is doing some awesome stuff with it. Wilkes still has the mini daycruiser mold and the walkthrough open bow. Not sure the tuna mold exists anymore but I could be wrong.

Bud Bailey owned the 27 and the 34 which were Silverwing. He sold them to Nick.

Bud designed the 27 and 34 while at Speed and Marine. I really wish we could have seen Mitch Lembke at the wheel of one of those in an offshore race...

 

[ChumpChange]

My 2 cents is I don’t understand the hype over a center console. I wouldn’t choose that layout over what’s out there now. I don’t think they would sell like some think.

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Agreed. But someone told them to do it and they're finally taking his advice which should explode the market!!!

All kidding aside, they have a purpose for the east coast where you go offshore with many people. You don't need them for Havasu as you're not offshore with swells and they're less functional than pontoons except for the speed of getting to copper canyon? Why would you want a CC in the channel? Less of a party platform. In regards to the ocean here, you can only go to Catalina so many times before you're burned out.

The really cool CCs are the giant ones which you don't need in Havasu. I walked on some of the "non performance" CCs at the boat show and although nice and roomy, there's just more functional boats for our here....unless you're a fisherman.

 

[Icky]

Why would you want a CC in the channel?
unless you're a fisherman.

Pretty sure everyone in the channel is fishing for something