Bang bang deAF

[Blackmagic94]

WORK WARNING. Cali cops do a drive by on bad guy


Cannot image how loud a m4 is in a car lol

 

[BONER]

*passenger fires M4*

Driver: Ughhh, ahhhh, Dude!

Passenger: Dude I know I know I know!

I just learned something. Don't fuck with LAPD.

 

[4Waters]

Wow, intense.

 

[Blackmagic94]

Dude got fired. 76 shots. 9 hits. In a neighborhood

 

[BONER]

Dude got fired. 76 shots. 9 hits. In a neighborhood

They should fire their Marksmanship Instructors too.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

*passenger fires M4*

Driver: Ughhh, ahhhh, Dude!

Passenger: Dude I know I know I know!

I just learned something. Don't fuck with LAPD.

That is not LAPD, it is Anaheim PD, in Orange County. Mickey Mouse does not fuck around.

LA Sheriffs would have given the illegal alien perp a popsicle and released him.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Damn, no. shit.

Carbine inside a confined space with no earplugs.

"Sorry, we can't hear." Yea no shit you cant.

Perp "go out" of the car pretty limp.

Wow, intense.

 

[500bbc]

WORK WARNING. Cali cops do a drive by on bad guy


Cannot image how loud a m4 is in a car lol

I love a happy ending!

 

[Waffles]

The graphics on the new Grand Theft Auto are mind blowing. So realistic.

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[EBT531]

They should fire their Marksmanship Instructors too.

Guys who are 96-100% on the range will fall to 40-50% under stress. ESP while driving lol

 

[Blackmagic94]

Most LEOs don’t even shoot that well. It amazes me how many only shoot their service weapons on annual qual days only.

 

[spectra3279]

The only issue I have is where did the bullets go? If they all hit the guys truck no issue. If they didnt?????????

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[Hullbilly]

Most LEOs don’t even shoot that well. It amazes me how many only shoot their service weapons on annual qual days only.

LOL....that’s funny shit doode. I’m interested in hearing where you gathered this intel

 

[Danger Dave]

76 shots. 9 hits. In a neighborhood

What was the old record?

 

[rvir4us]

fired for doing your job...civil service will reinstate watch.

 

[rrrr]

I'd be a more effective shooter than the guy driving was. I'm left handed.

Why was the driver doing all the shooting? It seems to me the other cop would have been more effective using his service weapon. As for where the bullets went, that truck was fucking ventilated when it was all over.

The "Let's cuff this fucker" comment was funny. The guy was just a sack of meat when they dragged him out of the vehicle. It looked like the cop shooting his service weapon scored several head shots, based on the bloody jelly oozing out of the head.

 

[MeCasa16]

LOL....that’s funny shit doode. I’m interested in hearing where you gathered this intel

My dad was a Sheriffs deputy for about 15 years in Dane County, WI. (Madison area) More specifically he was a range instructor and armorer for the sheriffs department the last 10 years. He hated it, because even though the officers had free access anytime to practice, hardly any ever would. They would show up on qual day and barely pass and often not pass at all. My Dad was always the asshole for failing guys. He hated it, and finally ended up transferring to becoming a park ranger instead. He would tell give you the same intel based on his experience.


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[monkeyswrench]

Dude got fired. 76 shots. 9 hits. In a neighborhood

Let me get this straight...that would be 67 misses/ stray bullets. These boys get paid training...and ammo is free as well. Now then, knowing a little bit about ballistics, I want to know how the hell a cop figures he's going to hit a moving target, while using his steering wheel as a steady rest, and also steering the car with it...and adding some pretty trick windage and elevation to counter the glass he's shooting through 15 inches from the muzzle!

What is it they say?...only fire if you know what's behind the target? LEO or not, dumbasses could have killed a lot more than the one they obviously had their sights on....9 of the 76 times the triggers were pulled.

 

[4Waters]

Let me get this straight...that would be 67 misses/ stray bullets. These boys get paid training...and ammo is free as well. Now then, knowing a little bit about ballistics, I want to know how the hell a cop figures he's going to hit a moving target, while using his steering wheel as a steady rest, and also steering the car with it...and adding some pretty trick windage and elevation to counter the glass he's shooting through 15 inches from the muzzle!

What is it they say?...only fire if you know what's behind the target? LEO or not, dumbasses could have killed a lot more than the one they obviously had their sights on....9 of the 76 times the triggers were pulled.

No ammo is not free, officers have to buy their own ammo even for practice that is why most dont practice a lot as it get expensive.

 

[Hullbilly]

My dad was a Sheriffs deputy for about 15 years in Dane County, WI. (Madison area) More specifically he was a range instructor and armorer for the sheriffs department the last 10 years. He hated it, because even though the officers had free access anytime to practice, hardly any ever would. They would show up on qual day and barely pass and often not pass at all. My Dad was always the asshole for failing guys. He hated it, and finally ended up transferring to becoming a park ranger instead. He would tell give you the same intel based on his experience.


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Thats cool, Ive seen the exact opposite. We shoot no less than once bi-weekly and qual quarterly not one guy in my office shoots below expert, no less than -8 points. In all my years in multiple states, I have never seen a guy even come close to DNQ.

if all those guys your dad failed were they fired for failure to qual or subjected remedials? Perhaps if Dane county guys are that bad of shots that says something about their range masters and the quality of deputies.

Just to be clear the guys in that vid are fucked up...I’m more interested in “most LEO’s don’t shoot well”

 

[Blackmagic94]

LOL....that’s funny shit doode. I’m interested in hearing where you gathered this intel

Firsthand knowledge

 

[Blackmagic94]

No ammo is not free, officers have to buy their own ammo even for practice that is why most dont practice a lot as it get expensive.

Some depts will provide free ammo on the annual qual day but only that day.

The reality is most LEOs are not gun nuts aka gun people and therefore are not interested in maintaining a skill set that requires personal income to invest in keeping that skill set. Typically the gun nuts are all the swat members and that is typically 1% of a total dept and they are not black and white units on the beat and therefore not the true first responders. The large number of war on terror veterans has helped make some depts more proficient though in recent times. But overall it’s not a gun culture by general.

 

[Hullbilly]

Firsthand knowledge

Ok

 

[monkeyswrench]

No ammo is not free, officers have to buy their own ammo even for practice that is why most dont practice a lot as it get expensive.

Ok, but at least they can write off the ammo they use for training? At least I know a few who did. I shoot, on average, twice a month. I would not say I'd be any better shot under the same circumstances, because I don't know. I could tell you I would not have fired as many rounds, hit or miss. Yes, I am fully aware of the cost of maintaining proficiency. My life doesn't depend on it as a matter of daily employment, I'm sure if it did I would shoot more. I would probably also focus on whatever my sidearm/carry was. I am not gun nut. I also feel a gun is just another tool. If you have a hammer on your tool belt, better be damn sure you know how to swing it. If you own a firearm, you should know how it works and what it does. The goal at this point in my life is to never harm anyone, but also let no harm come to my family. I just really feel that these two in the video weren't acting with the public in mind, and broke some fairly simple "rules".

 

[Dalton]

I doubt most cops only qual once a year and never shoot besides that, as reckless as that video was it took some degree of skill.

 

[Backlash]

Wasn't there so I couldn't tell you what was going through their minds at the time of the incident. They obviously knew who the guy was. Is there a reason he couldn't have been apprehended at a later date/time? Just a question.

Had I been in that situation, I would have focused on driving and the radio traffic and would have had the passenger officer with the AR on the gun. It's a far more accurate firearm and would have been been easier for him to focus on taking a critical shot if needed.

I DID like the fact that the driver was reloading in what seemed like a proficient manner. That part of this mess was legit.

Regardless, my hat's off to guys who choose to do this for a career.

 

[Constant840]

Wonder how many of those 67 misses were fired through the windshield... can’t imagine a subsonic hollowpoint is very effective after passing through a windshield. Accurate or not.

 

[SoCalDave]

Better give him one more the the head just for safe measures...

 

[rrrr]

No ammo is not free, officers have to buy their own ammo even for practice that is why most dont practice a lot as it get expensive.

Really? YGBSM. All agencies in California?

 

[Backlash]

To my knowledge, most CA agencies don't charge the officers for ammo. Hahhaa!! If you were having a shooting issue and sought help from the rangemaster, I can only imagine they would offer as much help as possible. Their names are on record as being the rangemaster. If said officer (Who requested the help), was denied for whatever reason, and sent on his way, and later got into an officer involved shooting, I can only imagine how many zeros you would have to put on the end of the check from his lawsuit.

 

[termiteguy]

What some of us fail to realize that most law enforcement officers are fairly young in there 20's and early 30's maybe a little immature compared to us and a little high strung a high pressure job. I'm not sure we can compare ourselves to them and what we would do it's easy to look at a video and speculate what should have been done

 

[monkeyswrench]

What some of us fail to realize that most law enforcement officers are fairly young in there 20's and early 30's maybe a little immature compared to us and a little high strung a high pressure job. I'm not sure we can compare ourselves to them and what we would do it's easy to look at a video and speculate what should have been done

I couldn't agree more with this. I had friends in my youth that followed that career path, and thought I should. I new myself better. I did not have the mentality. The justice system is painfully slow, but a bullet is incredibly fast. My judgment or lack there of, could change multiple lives other than my own. That is a heavy load to carry as a daily duty. We all may think we'd know how to handle that situation, but reality is much different than out imaginations. Badges lived, bad guy didn't...luckily no one else was hurt. All in all, good outcome.

 

[was thatguy]

They killed him a lot.
Remember that Florida Sheriff a few years back? A reporter asked him why they shot an escaped convict like 150 times. His reply? “That’s all the bullets we had...”

 

[monkeyswrench]

Bonnie and Clyde style...

They killed him a lot.
Remember that Florida Sheriff a few years back? A reporter asked him why they shot an escaped convict like 150 times. His reply? “That’s all the bullets we had...”

 

[wsuwrhr]

Damn......

They killed him a lot.
Remember that Florida Sheriff a few years back? A reporter asked him why they shot an escaped convict like 150 times. His reply? “That’s all the bullets we had...”

 

[4Waters]

They killed him a lot.
Remember that Florida Sheriff a few years back? A reporter asked him why they shot an escaped convict like 150 times. His reply? “That’s all the bullets we had...”

Bullets are a lot cheaper than housing him for 30+ years.

 

[HCP3]

One of the officers was fired, the other on leave. No charges will be filed.

https://www.ocregister.com/2019/05/...eing-driver-in-busy-residential-neighborhood/

 

[Big B Hova]

If we had more police activity like this people wouldn't fuck around so much.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Thats cool, Ive seen the exact opposite. We shoot no less than once bi-weekly and qual quarterly not one guy in my office shoots below expert, no less than -8 points. In all my years in multiple states, I have never seen a guy even come close to DNQ.

if all those guys your dad failed were they fired for failure to qual or subjected remedials? Perhaps if Dane county guys are that bad of shots that says something about their range masters and the quality of deputies.

Just to be clear the guys in that vid are fucked up...I’m more interested in “most LEO’s don’t shoot well”

You have to know that a department that goes to the range “no less than bi-weekly” is rare, right?

 

[BONER]

Guys who are 96-100% on the range will fall to 40-50% under stress. ESP while driving lol

Don't have to tell me. Been there.

 

[wsuwrhr]

No repeat offenders, for sure....

If we had more police activity like this people wouldn't fuck around so much.

 

[LazyLavey]

If we had more police activity like this people wouldn't fuck around so much.

Agreed.. but unfortunately we'd have less cops cause those guys would get fired...

"We're a kinder gentler police department".

 

[monkeyswrench]

If we had more police activity like this people wouldn't fuck around so much.

If it were the wild west when I was a kid, I would have been a saint or a memory...

 

[Mandelon]

That video stressed me out.

I did a rehab on a foreclosure home up in Alpine. This is a residential, mostly rural area east of San Diego in the foothills. The home had been the scene of a standoff and murder suicide. The husband had killed his wife, and presented himself at the front door when the police arrived. There was a shootout, and the police won.

There were quite a few bullet holes all over the front of the home, some 10 feet above the front door. I assume a pair of patrol officers both sent a magazine full of lead at the guy and put him out of his misery.

The cleanup crew had cut out a section of the carpet in the family room where the wife bled out. We did the remainder of repairs and made the house pretty again.

So even from a static position there were quite a few errant shots. I can only imagine where these guys left holes.

 

[Justfishing]

What some of us fail to realize that most law enforcement officers are fairly young in there 20's and early 30's maybe a little immature compared to us and a little high strung a high pressure job. I'm not sure we can compare ourselves to them and what we would do it's easy to look at a video and speculate what should have been done

I agree that many of them are young. My son was 21 when he started and is 26 now. He worked as a prison guard for 2 years before that.

He is very smart and level headed. We need more like him but i worry about his safety. To many guys hopped up on drugs and are very unpredictable. Our liencywith drugs is setting up people for failure and making the rest of us less safe.

 

[Hullbilly]

You have to know that a department that goes to the range “no less than bi-weekly” is rare, right?

We are not mandated to go bi weekly, that onus is ours. Quarterly quals are the only mandate.

I honestly don’t think it’s rare for guys to go to the range bi weekly. 20 mins to run through 6 mags is not a big commitment to being proficient. Every department/agency is different just like every leo is different. But since graduating from an academy I’ve never seen anyone come close to failing to qualify. Hence my interjection when someone labeled MOST leo’s as poor shots.

Perhaps we should leave lethal force to the self proclaimed top shot gun nuts of rdp.

 

[poncho]

That video stressed me out.

I did a rehab on a foreclosure home up in Alpine. This is a residential, mostly rural area east of San Diego in the foothills. The home had been the scene of a standoff and murder suicide. The husband had killed his wife, and presented himself at the front door when the police arrived. There was a shootout, and the police won.

There were quite a few bullet holes all over the front of the home, some 10 feet above the front door. I assume a pair of patrol officers both sent a magazine full of lead at the guy and put him out of his misery.

The cleanup crew had cut out a section of the carpet in the family room where the wife bled out. We did the remainder of repairs and made the house pretty again.

So even from a static position there were quite a few errant shots. I can only imagine where these guys left holes.

This sounds like a friend of mine from the fishing industry, 8-10 years ago?

 

[poncho]

*passenger fires M4*

Driver: Ughhh, ahhhh, Dude!

Passenger: Dude I know I know I know!

I just learned something. Don't fuck with LAPD.

Ex-Wife fired my 45 from the passengers seat of my truck one night driving through some rural mountains, my window was up and she did not have the muzzle out the window far enough, that hurt.

 

[Blackmagic94]

We are not mandated to go bi weekly, that onus is ours. Quarterly quals are the only mandate.

I honestly don’t think it’s rare for guys to go to the range bi weekly. 20 mins to run through 6 mags is not a big commitment to being proficient. Every department/agency is different just like every leo is different. But since graduating from an academy I’ve never seen anyone come close to failing to qualify. Hence my interjection when someone labeled MOST leo’s as poor shots.

Perhaps we should leave lethal force to the self proclaimed top shot gun nuts of rdp.

Low standards procedure poor results. It’s not a true measurement. CAG and DEVGRU shoot 5-10k rounds a month and if you asked them they would say it still not enough.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Here's an odd one for you all, in terms of marksmanship under pressure: My wife can out shoot my brother in law, and myself, with a pistol at ranges anywhere from 25-75ft. My brother in law is a LEO, so we give him hell for it. Several years back, he was involved in a shooting. While taking fire from a suspect with an AR, he managed to back down the driveway in the cruiser, while emtying his side arm. Suspect was found dead later, one grazing wound, and at least one through the side panel on the suspects body armor.

Brother in law was hit with some shrapnel or fragments in his arm. His training kicked in like it should. Yes, I'm proud of him for that one...