Baja 1k two dead

beerrun · 2024-11-15T01:52:02+0000

A TT in contingency decides to hotrod a little and kills 2

Bpracing1127 · 2024-11-15T01:56:12+0000

beerrun said:
A TT in contingency decides to hotrod a little and kills 2

Wow!

rivrrts429 · 2024-11-15T02:03:16+0000

beerrun said:
A TT in contingency decides to hotrod a little and kills 2

I was there. Hard to tell if he was hot rodding, throttle stuck, or he panicked and hit the skinny pedal rather than the brake.

I was standing next to that TT 30 seconds prior to the incident.

I didn’t see anyone dead. Worse injury was the guy who got pinned between the trophy truck and the car in front. His hand was nearly severed from what I could tell and he was in agonizing pain.

Where did you hear two people were killed?

beerrun · 2024-11-15T02:09:00+0000

rivrrts429 said:
I was there. Hard to tell if he was hot rodding, throttle stuck, or he panicked and hit the skinny pedal rather than the brake.

I was standing next to that TT 30 seconds prior to the incident.

I didn’t see anyone dead. Worse injury was the guy who got pinned between the trophy truck and the car in front. His hand was nearly severed from what I could tell and he was in agonizing pain.

Where did you hear two people were killed?

Race dezert is reporting 2 dead

beerrun · 2024-11-15T02:10:00+0000

rivrrts429 said:
I was there. Hard to tell if he was hot rodding, throttle stuck, or he panicked and hit the skinny pedal rather than the brake.

I was standing next to that TT 30 seconds prior to the incident.

I didn’t see anyone dead. Worse injury was the guy who got pinned between the trophy truck and the car in front. His hand was nearly severed from what I could tell and he was in agonizing pain.

Where did you hear two people were killed?

Glad you are ok

beerrun · 2024-11-15T02:11:27+0000

The story is the driver admitted to hotroding and is in jail truck is impounded

beerrun · 2024-11-15T02:12:27+0000

This is what I'm reading on race-dezert so take it for what its worth

JFMFG · 2024-11-15T02:18:07+0000

what truck?

beerrun · 2024-11-15T02:19:26+0000

JFMFG said:
what truck?

79

rivrrts429 · 2024-11-15T02:20:46+0000

beerrun said:
Glad you are ok

It could’ve been a lot worse with the thousands of people around. I just didn’t see anyone that had died. Doesn’t mean they didn’t later. It was a sad deal for sure. Trophy truck was impounded and driver taken to jail.

Was chaos with all the police and people injured. Thankful my friends and family were all okay. Feel terrible for those injured. The one who got stuck between the trophy truck and car was injured badly. Looked like his hand was severed.

beerrun · 2024-11-15T02:21:46+0000

rivrrts429 said:
It could’ve been a lot worse with the thousands of people around. I just didn’t see anyone that had died. Doesn’t mean they didn’t later. It was a sad deal for sure. Right truck was impounded and driver taken to jail.

Was chaos with all the police and people injured. Thankful my friends and family were all okay. Feel terrible for those injured. The one who got stuck between the trophy truck and car was injured badly. Looked like his hand was severed.

View attachment 1450542

Be safe down there.

rivrrts429 · 2024-11-15T02:22:10+0000

JFMFG said:
what truck?

The Buehler team out of Missouri

beerrun · 2024-11-15T02:23:16+0000

rivrrts429 said:
The Buehler team out of Missouri

Yes with TJ Flores out of Vegas

JFMFG · 2024-11-15T02:24:05+0000

rivrrts429 said:
The Buehler team out of Missouri

Ya my buddy just told me. Know 2 guys down there. One buddy is with herbst and his wife is with the green army team.

rivrrts429 · 2024-11-15T02:27:13+0000

JFMFG said:
Ya my buddy just told me. Know 2 guys down there. One buddy is with herbst and his wife is with the green army team.

I just so happened to be walking to the PCI trailer for a new helmet vizor. Ordinarily I don’t hang around contingency, too many people. Sad deal and especially if two people passed.

DLC · 2024-11-15T02:58:18+0000

What a Bummer!

Not the place to be messing around….

rivrrts429 · 2024-11-15T03:36:07+0000

beerrun said:
This is what I'm reading on race-dezert so take it for what its worth

Laying around resting in our VRBO for the Baja 1000 start and turned on the news. It’s all in Spanish and although It’s not my first language they’re talking about the incident all over the news and saying potentially two deaths like @beerrun mentioned. If accurate that’s incredibly sad. The vibe was amazing until it wasn’t.

beerrun · 2024-11-15T03:40:41+0000

They are showing this guy looks to be getting arrested

JFMFG · 2024-11-15T03:48:18+0000

beerrun said:
They are showing this guy looks to be getting arrested View attachment 1450550

So does he go to jail in Mexico I assume?

riverroyal · 2024-11-15T03:51:54+0000

Yes. That's not going to go over well at all.
There's only so much influence the race organizers can have on getting him out
Best scenario is get a large amount of cash down there asap.and start paying off the right people.
Bad deal.

beerrun · 2024-11-15T03:51:55+0000

JFMFG said:
So does he go to jail in Mexico I assume?

I would say for a long time unless they are able to pay someone off and get him out of the country

MonkeyButt70 · 2024-11-15T04:17:48+0000

Tragic all the way around. This makes me sad for everyone involved. Hard to think about also since both of my sons are down there racing. My first thought was when I saw that video was to check on my boys. Life can change so fast.

rivrrts429 · 2024-11-15T04:35:28+0000

JFMFG said:
So does he go to jail in Mexico I assume?

He’s in a Mexican jail right now. They impounded/towed the trophy truck for evidence too. Cops from all over swarmed the scene when it happened and caution taped the whole area off.

rivermobster · 2024-11-15T04:49:44+0000

rivrrts429 said:
He’s in a Mexican jail right now. They impounded/towed the trophy truck for evidence too. Cops from all over swarmed the scene when it happened and caution taped the whole area off.

Really glad to hear you're ok.

BingerFang · 2024-11-15T04:57:44+0000

These poor bastards…. What a fucked situation.

BingerFang · 2024-11-15T05:07:22+0000

Omg

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1204765260586269

wzuber · 2024-11-15T05:27:00+0000

Watching that.....That action is really hard to comprehend....
What was he thinking? Or was there a malfunction of some sort....
What a horrible thing to have occur.

Justsomeguy · 2024-11-15T05:41:23+0000

What was the thought process here?

gqchris · 2024-11-15T05:42:16+0000

Holy Shit, that video is crazy. It reminds me of our saying here, "Its all fine, until its not"

Those guys had no clue of what would happen.

riverroyal · 2024-11-15T05:42:44+0000

Seems malfunction to me. The blurp of the throttle doesn't sound like a 'listen to me' sounded loaded it. He may have been trying to clear it and spaced out he was in drive.
Then no reverse? Maybe after he jumped out he realized and pushed wheel back. He did grab his cell right away. That was a oh fuck moment

BingerFang · 2024-11-15T05:48:01+0000

riverroyal said:
Seems malfunction to me. The blurp of the throttle doesn't sound like a 'listen to me' sounded loaded it. He may have been trying to clear it and spaced out he was in drive.
Then no reverse? Maybe after he jumped out he realized and pushed wheel back. He did grab his cell right away. That was a oh fuck moment

Brain malfunction for sure.

HotRod82 · 2024-11-15T06:24:00+0000

That truck could be fly by wire.....electronic throttle malfunction? He sure seemed to be being cautious leading up to the incident.

Willie B · 2024-11-15T06:29:44+0000

… I could be wrong… But it sounded to me like an intentional throttle bip… And then he just didn’t know what to do

… Like lock up the brakes???… If two died, it is completely tragic…

RiverDave · 2024-11-15T06:43:36+0000

Obviously that isn’t the driver of the truck in the actual race.. is he just some helper that drives it through contingency?

Either way he’s completely screwed now..

92562 · 2024-11-15T07:21:52+0000

The guy on the ground between the truck and buggy looks like the hand injury. The 2 guys between the next two buggies do not look good.

zhandfull · 2024-11-15T10:00:31+0000

rivrrts429 said:
It could’ve been a lot worse with the thousands of people around. I just didn’t see anyone that had died. Doesn’t mean they didn’t later. It was a sad deal for sure. Trophy truck was impounded and driver taken to jail.

Was chaos with all the police and people injured. Thankful my friends and family were all okay. Feel terrible for those injured. The one who got stuck between the trophy truck and car was injured badly. Looked like his hand was severed.

View attachment 1450542

Wow!

cyclone · 2024-11-15T10:45:22+0000

HotRod82 said:
That truck could be fly by wire.....electronic throttle malfunction? He sure seemed to be being cautious leading up to the incident.

drive-by-wire systems, even the aftermarket ones, default to the closed throttle position when there is an issue with the pedal, voltage, or throttle body. it sounded like he just was revving the engine and forgot the truck was in drive.

BingerFang · 2024-11-15T13:55:14+0000

RiverDave said:
Obviously that isn’t the driver of the truck in the actual race.. is he just some helper that drives it through contingency?

Either way he’s completely screwed now..

Correct, was just part of the pit crew from what I read online.

JFMFG · 2024-11-15T13:58:39+0000

Holy shit. Either throttle got stuck or dude panicked. Either way he had no business driving that way even if it was a quick stab of the throttle.

Racey · 2024-11-15T14:00:53+0000

HotRod82 said:
That truck could be fly by wire.....electronic throttle malfunction? He sure seemed to be being cautious leading up to the incident.

They don't fail like that, cable throttles have way more issues sticking.

Most of those trophy trucks are not DBW for what it's worth, many running ITB setups. Not sure about this one in particular, but that is the norm from what i have seen, Which always made me scratch my head, as the DBW is such a superior setup from an engine management and reliability standpoint

DBW 'failure' worst case is a high idle, which through a trophy truck converter and drive train etc isn't gonna be like what happened there.

Vamodsquad · 2024-11-15T14:10:18+0000

Prayers sent.

Bpracing1127 · 2024-11-15T14:10:24+0000

I think the rules say it can’t be drive by wire and they need two throttle return springs.

But I could be wrong

GETBOATS · 2024-11-15T14:33:06+0000

I don't hear mechanical, sounds intentional, there was a gap and he could not stand the temptation. Sad for those effected.

white tortilla · 2024-11-15T14:37:46+0000

I saw a picture of the guys hand on twitter it was gone

rmarion · 2024-11-15T14:39:01+0000

maybe the driver dropped something in the cockpit and he was trying to pick it up....

me personally doesn't sound like a stuck throttle....

RIP to ALL

THAT SUXS

Rennsport · 2024-11-15T15:14:29+0000

I may have seen the dude driving that truck hop out with flip flops on (maybe not) - which can be a reason for unintended acceleration. just speculating. if so easy for a loose flip flop to jam a pedal. such a sad ordeal honestly

4Waters · 2024-11-15T15:22:20+0000

Bpracing1127 said:
I think the rules say it can’t be drive by wire and they need two throttle return springs.

But I could be wrong

I'm pretty sure all sanctioning bodies require 2 return springs, I know NHRA Nascar, USAC...all do I'd be surprised if SCORE didn't

HBCraig · 2024-11-15T15:26:47+0000

Rennsport said:
I may have seen the dude driving that truck hop out with flip flops on (maybe not) - which can be a reason for unintended acceleration. just speculating. if so easy for a loose flip flop to jam a pedal. such a sad ordeal honestly

Unintended Acceleration is a topic I testified a few times as an expert witness. It's a phenomenon that doesn't happen often, but it does happen. It's terrifying for the driver.

cofooter · 2024-11-15T15:29:25+0000

HBCraig said:
Unintended Acceleration is a topic I testified a few times as an expert witness. It's a phenomenon that doesn't happen often, but it does happen. It's terrifying for the driver.

Not sure the Mexican courts will care. Guy is screwed. Terrible tragedy, RIP to those lives lost................

lbhsbz · 2024-11-15T15:43:39+0000

Video of the incident is strange...looks like the throttle blip in the beginning but not after that. I'd investigate a mechanical issue...sudden significant vacuum leak could have developed...maybe after the initial blip to get the truck to move with a high stall converter and act like a stuck throttle....not enough time for the operator to react to the unexpected "throttle hang" type of situation.

Just like shutting down a fuel engine....the RPMs always climb when fuel is cut as it leans out right before it shuts down

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