Bad accident main intersection in Parker

[rrrr]

I've been thinking about this since last night. The laws regarding charges that can be made against drivers causing fatal crashes are laughably lenient. Typically you'll see vehicular homicide, intoxication manslaughter, and other versions that don't have the teeth of a murder charge.

Incidents like this one are straight up murder. In this case, I would argue a charge of first degree murder, in other words premeditated, would be appropriate, if the alleged actions against the driver are accurate. It appears the driver chose to be impaired, chose to vastly exceed the speed limit, and chose to ignore a traffic signal.

In Texas, an intoxication manslaughter conviction calls for a sentence of 2 to 20 years and a $10,000 fine. Most sentences I see are around 5 years. That's a f###ing joke. Manslaughter in Texas is legally defined as unintentionally causing a death. I think killing someone while driving drunk is an obviously intentional act.

When a search using the term intoxication manslaughter is made, the first two pages are ads from legal firms that assure the reader they aren't a bad person, they really didn't mean to kill someone, and a good defense will result in minimum prison time or even an acquittal. Read a couple paragraphs of this example. It's sickening.

The Penalties For Intoxication Manslaughter in Texas

Your best shot at avoiding intoxication manslaughter penalties in Texas? A lawyer who won a quadruple intoxication manslaughter "Not Guilty" verdict: 713-864-9000

www.thetexastrialattorney.com

The current laws need to be changed. First and second degree murder charges should be available to the DA when it's obvious the crime rises to that threshold. Punishment should reflect that someone's spouse or child is dead because the accused chose to drink.

 

[Willie B]

..,No real point of saying anything… But this is the POS truck driver.., can’t seem to make the picture bigger???

 

[Orange Juice]

I spend 36k miles a year in a car/suv/mini van. Been doing it since mid 1980’s.

It’s not getting any better. Forget driving during rush hour or any weekend around a holiday.

For me, the best time I found for driving cross country, is when fuel costs were $7 a gallon. The roads are clear.

Also when COVID was in full bloom. No one driving, but when the free checks hit the mailboxes, the roads were packed at all times.

 

[BabyRay]

I've been thinking about this since last night. The laws regarding charges that can be made against drivers causing fatal crashes are laughably lenient. Typically you'll see vehicular homicide, intoxication manslaughter, and other versions that don't have the teeth of a murder charge.

Incidents like this one are straight up murder. In this case, I would argue a charge of first degree murder, in other words premeditated, would be appropriate, if the alleged actions against the driver are accurate. It appears the driver chose to be impaired, chose to vastly exceed the speed limit, and chose to ignore a traffic signal.

In Texas, an intoxication manslaughter conviction calls for a sentence of 2 to 20 years and a $10,000 fine. Most sentences I see are around 5 years. That's a f###ing joke. Manslaughter in Texas is legally defined as unintentionally causing a death. I think killing someone while driving drunk is an obviously intentional act.

When a search using the term intoxication manslaughter is made, the first two pages are ads from legal firms that assure the reader they aren't a bad person, they really didn't mean to kill someone, and a good defense will result in minimum prison time or even an acquittal. Read a couple paragraphs of this example. It's sickening.

The Penalties For Intoxication Manslaughter in Texas

Your best shot at avoiding intoxication manslaughter penalties in Texas? A lawyer who won a quadruple intoxication manslaughter "Not Guilty" verdict: 713-864-9000

www.thetexastrialattorney.com

The current laws need to be changed. First and second degree murder charges should be available to the DA when it's obvious the crime rises to that threshold. Punishment should reflect that someone's spouse or child is dead because the accused chose to drink.

Looks like you got your wish (which I agree with). Arizona seems to be tougher than Texas on this point.

..,No real point of saying anything… But this is the POS truck driver.., can’t seem to make the picture bigger???

https://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/attachments/cee8a9b4-9a78-406e-972e-9d0b2f6ba524-png.1273755/

 

[boatnam2]

Seen this from FB

 

[rivermobster]

Seen this from FB

Perfect. He's already dressed for prison.

 

[Orange Juice]

Perfect. He's already dressed for prison.

He’s probably walking from the prison to court.

 

[bonesfab]

Perfect. He's already dressed for prison.

I assumed it was the pajamas he was driving in

 

[FCT]

Perfect. He's already dressed for prison.

Fuck that guy. Let nature run its course on the inside!

 

[rivermobster]

I assumed it was the pajamas he was driving in

X2

 

[PlanB]

He’s probably walking from the prison to court.

The county jail in Parker uses orange pants / shirts just like he is wearing.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

..,No real point of saying anything… But this is the POS truck driver.., can’t seem to make the picture bigger???

Open borders have consequences…the trucking industry has unfortunately become reliant on push start labor.

Prayers to those impacted/lost. To the perp…hope they toss the book at him

 

[DRYHEAT]

The majority of those "7-Eleven" truck drivers only carry a Canadian driver's license, since they can not pass the American driving test.

Part of the problem is, it is not that difficult to get a CDL in the United States. They’ve allowed the large companies and trucking schools to administer the road tests and nobody fails.

I’ve said for years that I could teach anybody to drive a truck, but I can’t teach anybody to be a good truck driver, some folks shouldn’t be driving anything.

 

[DRYHEAT]

It’s my understanding that drivers have been tweaking for decades?
I’ve never been a part of it, but I’ve heard that truck lots are where the best meth is?

That’s an old-school thought process. I’m not saying that it doesn’t happen, but it’s not anywhere near as prevalent as you think with random drug testing it.

 

[BoatCop]

Part of the problem is, it is not that difficult to get a CDL in the United States. They’ve allowed the large companies and trucking schools to administer the road tests and nobody fails.

I’ve said for years that I could teach anybody to drive a truck, but I can’t teach anybody to be a good truck driver, some folks shouldn’t be driving anything.

 

[DRYHEAT]

Those turban team drivers are known for cutting a hole in the floor of the truck to shit through

That’s more urban legend than anything. Truck would be put out of service immediately upon any inspection.

 

[DRYHEAT]

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That’s about the way it is it seems.

 

[4Waters]

That’s more urban legend than anything. Truck would be put out of service immediately upon any inspection.

Ok

Buddy used to do heavy duty tows, it's more often than you think. He'd drive away and leave the truck there.

 

[Hunkydory_Hallett]

Seriously how the F did that go down? It’s not a high speed area.

This weekend it was like a dragstrip...I was in town going the speed limit 35mph and people were blowing by me a 50+++. It was radical all weekend.

 

[DRYHEAT]

Ok

Buddy used to do heavy duty tows, it's more often than you think. He'd drive away and leave the truck there.

Didn’t say it never happens, but you made it sound like every Middle Eastern driver has a hole in his floor. Maybe I took it wrong.

I’m not defending the guy in Parker. personally, I think something lit his fuse and he plowed that intersection on purpose. Unfortunately, we rarely ever find out all the details in a deal like this.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Didn’t say it never happens, but you made it sound like every Middle Eastern driver has a hole in his floor. Maybe I took it wrong.

I’m not defending the guy in Parker. personally, I think something lit his fuse and he plowed that intersection on purpose. Unfortunately, we rarely ever find out all the details in a deal like this.

You can put it however you want, its not an urban myth..they roll multi "drivers".... I drive Hwy 72, to 60, to 95 A LOT.... to go to havasu... You know who passes me on double yellow blind curves (while I may or may not allegedly do the speed limit or 10 over)... Turban fuckin suburbans. You know who passes oncoming on a double lined curve toward me? Yup you guessed it, the turban suburban push starts...the dangly ding dong testicle looking decorations they have are a dead give away.... You know who ran me off the road on hwy 93 In a no cell zone in norther NV on a blind double lined curve in essentially white out conditions last Christmas break? Ding ding ding...the same kind of driver.

These "steering wheel holders" who should not even be here are a BIG fucking problem.

RIP to those impacted by this POS.

 

[4Waters]

Didn’t say it never happens, but you made it sound like every Middle Eastern driver has a hole in his floor. Maybe I took it wrong.

I’m not defending the guy in Parker. personally, I think something lit his fuse and he plowed that intersection on purpose. Unfortunately, we rarely ever find out all the details in a deal like this.

No I didn't, I just said they are known for it

 

[FCT]

You can put it however you want, its not an urban myth..they roll multi "drivers".... I drive Hwy 72, to 60, to 95 A LOT.... to go to havasu... You know who passes me on double yellow blind curves (while I may or may not allegedly do the speed limit or 10 over)... Turban fuckin suburbans. You know who passes oncoming on a double lined curve toward me? Yup you guessed it, the turban suburban push starts...the dangly ding dong testicle looking decorations they have are a dead give away.... You know who ran me off the road on hwy 93 In a no cell zone in norther NV on a blind double lined curve in essentially white out conditions last Christmas break? Ding ding ding...the same kind of driver.

These "steering wheel holders" who should not even be here are a BIG fucking problem.

RIP to those impacted by this POS.

I’ll have my cruise control on in my semi doing 65 on Rice Road and those fucking idiots pass me on double yellows too. It’s like they have a Deathwish and don’t give a fuck about anybody. Probably because they don’t. Especially us Americans.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I’ll have my cruise control on in my semi doing 65 on Rice Road and those fucking idiots pass me on double yellows too. It’s like they have a Deathwish and don’t give a fuck about anybody. Probably because they don’t. Especially us Americans.

Unfortunately, due to the regulations being tweaked to allow these types on the road, it will make it easier for them to push more regulations. Worse yet, "automated" trucks deemed safer for the masses.

 

[CarolynandBob]

This is the main reason we stopped full time rv'ing. Bad drivers, both autos and semi's. Last year we saw multiple times on our road trip to El Paso, where semi's just moved over into a lane that was occupied by another vehicle. Probably saw it 6 times on our trip. Now when I come up to a semi to pass I make sure there is room for me to pass them. I wait a few car lengths back until it is clear and then go past them.

 

[Shlbyntro]

You can put it however you want, its not an urban myth..they roll multi "drivers".... I drive Hwy 72, to 60, to 95 A LOT.... to go to havasu... You know who passes me on double yellow blind curves (while I may or may not allegedly do the speed limit or 10 over)... Turban fuckin suburbans. You know who passes oncoming on a double lined curve toward me? Yup you guessed it, the turban suburban push starts...the dangly ding dong testicle looking decorations they have are a dead give away.... You know who ran me off the road on hwy 93 In a no cell zone in norther NV on a blind double lined curve in essentially white out conditions last Christmas break? Ding ding ding...the same kind of driver.

These "steering wheel holders" who should not even be here are a BIG fucking problem.

RIP to those impacted by this POS.

that's a pull start, not a push start

 

[RiverDave]

Not sure how many are paying attention but this is the second time this has happened locally in the last six months..

This also happened in Havasu recently.. trucker was full speed ahead right into a bunch of cars waiting at a light

 

[dezertrider]

Not sure how many are paying attention but this is the second time this has happened locally in the last six months..

This also happened in Havasu recently.. trucker was full speed ahead right into a bunch of cars waiting at a light

Th

Not sure how many are paying attention but this is the second time this has happened locally in the last six months..

This also happened in Havasu recently.. trucker was full speed ahead right into a bunch of cars waiting at a light

This guy kills one person and injures 8 others and sets the gas station on fire then walks over to Ruberto’s and orders a burrito and soda.

 

[Outdrive1]

Th

This guy kills one person and injures 8 others and sets the gas station on fire then walks over to Ruberto’s and orders a burrito and soda.

And gets charged with murder. I didn’t hear that the driver in Havasu was impaired?

 

[stephenkatsea]

Not sure how many are paying attention but this is the second time this has happened locally in the last six months..

This also happened in Havasu recently.. trucker was full speed ahead right into a bunch of cars waiting at a light

The one in front of Basha’s. Didn’t that turn out to be medical, female semi driver? But, hauling ass and there were fatalities.

 

[RiverDave]

And gets charged with murder. I didn’t hear that the driver in Havasu was impaired?

That was medical related I believe.. I’m just saying it’s fucking crazy how these trucks are plowing cars..

Kinda makes ya wonder if ya want to be driving a SXS on these main roads.. you’d stand zero chance

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

That was medical related I believe.. I’m just saying it’s fucking crazy how these trucks are plowing cars..

Kinda makes ya wonder if ya want to be driving a SXS on these main roads.. you’d stand zero chance

That was part of the reason when I had the cage for my talon built I went a little over kill with the gussets and going 120 wall. Obviously a 1800lb SXS doesn't stand a chance against 90k lbs but it's a start

 

[stephenkatsea]

South end of town kind of in front of Ace Hdw, stopped and waiting in the SB 95 lane to turn left to go up S McCulloch, it’s crazy how fast some of the SB semi’s on 95 fly by you.

 

[oldboatsrule]

Not sure how many are paying attention but this is the second time this has happened locally in the last six months..

This also happened in Havasu recently.. trucker was full speed ahead right into a bunch of cars waiting at a light

What happened with that driver ? Was he charged with anything ?

 

[Outdrive1]

That was medical related I believe.. I’m just saying it’s fucking crazy how these trucks are plowing cars..

Kinda makes ya wonder if ya want to be driving a SXS on these main roads.. you’d stand zero chance

I get what you’re saying. This was no accident though, this was 100 percent preventable.

You’re fucked in a sxs against a car. There’s no technology into crumple zones or energy absorption. Air bags, etc.

 

[Badchoices03]

That’s more urban legend than anything. Truck would be put out of service immediately upon any inspection.

I am not sure about urban legend, I was driving to Yuma on Thursday last week, and as I am passing this big rig, I see stuff flying from the bottom of this big rig as I passed it, and it splattered on my windshield....I am no human waste expert, but to me, it looked like human fkn shit....and I don't have to say what the guy looked like as I drove by him...

 

[Singleton]

That’s more urban legend than anything. Truck would be put out of service immediately upon any inspection.

It’s not.
One of my customers is a large trucking company. When they find it via maintenance inspection, they pull the truck but they have do not ask policy. Usually occurs on those trucks that team drivers. Even @ONE-A-DAY has posted his buddy that worked at Swift dealt with that BS and truck being totaled due to it

 

[hallett21]

That’s more urban legend than anything. Truck would be put out of service immediately upon any inspection.

I’ve always heard that story from 2nd or 3rd hand accounts. I’d really like to hear it from the guy who’s seen it first hand.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I work on shitty trucks all the time. Luckily, I mean figuratively and not literally. I have no problems sticking my hands in gear oil or caked on bearing grease, but I have my limits

 

[ChrisV]

That’s nastyyyy

 

[Nordie]

This guy managed to pull off this parking job, but I haven't decided if he's a good driver or a bad driver.

He could have parked across the street where it's all block walls. I will say I was impressed when I left for work this morning.

 

[Flatsix66]

The turbin (Sikh) religion believes in the afterlife and reincarnation. When I go to India I would ask my employees why everybody seems to drive like they have a deathwish, turns out they do, they believe they have to be reincarnated into every kind of lifeform before they can meet god. So we are sharing the road with people that drive an 80klb death machine, sometimes shit through the floor and just don't care if they live or die.

 

[2Driver]

Not sure how many are paying attention but this is the second time this has happened locally in the last six months..

This also happened in Havasu recently.. trucker was full speed ahead right into a bunch of cars waiting at a light

And in Phoenix on the I10 in January . Traffic was literally stopped and this guy plowed at full speed killing 5

He admitted to watching Tiktok.

Semi-truck driver was on TikTok when he caused crash that killed 5 on I-10 near Chandler, DPS says

He was arrested on Thursday.

www.azfamily.com

 

[ikester]

This truck driver had the ability to walk over to the local Mexican restaurant and order a burrito and was sitting there watching all the emergency services at the accident site....... then the cops found him.
So he knew what kind of burrito he wanted.....
I was at that intersection yesterday (the day after the accident) and heard this semi-tractor pulling a 53' trailer coming down California Ave. pulling hard making some hp and was going I would guess +/- 60 mph and just made it through the light as it turned 'red', and then he goes and made a left lane change around cars and then back to the right lane around other cars and hauled ass down the road. That intersection is bad.

 

[Outdrive1]

This truck driver had the ability to walk over to the local Mexican restaurant and order a burrito and was sitting there watching all the emergency services at the accident site....... then the cops found him.
So he knew what kind of burrito he wanted.....
I was at that intersection yesterday (the day after the accident) and heard this semi-tractor pulling a 53' trailer coming down California Ave. pulling hard making some hp and was going I would guess +/- 60 mph and just made it through the light as it turned 'red', and then he goes and made a left lane change around cars and then back to the right lane around other cars and hauled ass down the road. That intersection is bad.

There’s a lot of trucks there for an area with no factories, warehouses or commerce to support those vehicles. They come off 10 west, up through Bouse, to Vidal and up to the 40. All that traffic is funneled through town and that one intersection. Speed limit is pretty low, and there used to always be cops sitting in town waiting for speeders. I’m guessing they will step that up again.

 

[evantwheeler]

Need a round-about a quarter mile down the road to slow these fuckers right down.

 

[2Driver]

Need a round-about a quarter mile down the road to slow these fuckers right down.

LOL Nope. This asshat drove straight at the roundabout and right up the center hill and smashed into the giant spur statue In Wickenburg AZ. The tractor cab blew off, went flying and crashed landed on the opposite side of the circle.

 

[King295]

There’s a lot of trucks there for an area with no factories, warehouses or commerce to support those vehicles. They come off 10 west, up through Bouse, to Vidal and up to the 40. All that traffic is funneled through town and that one intersection. Speed limit is pretty low, and there used to always be cops sitting in town waiting for speeders. I’m guessing they will step that up again.

When I saw the news of the crash I couldn't for the life of me understand how that amount of carnage happened with a 35mph speed limit. I crawl over the bridge and into town at 35, not a single mph more since I'm used to seeing cops sitting there. After seeing the video it all clearly made sense but just doesn't seem like its a common occurrence based on my experience on that road. I agree they will be stepping that up again granted I'm not sure it would have mattered in this case.

 

[RiverDave]

What happened with that driver ? Was he charged with anything ?

I believe it was a female? I’m not sure what happened

 

[BlockHead]