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Yep.. PlanetSand.com being a big one I can think of in my lists of forums I've been on..

Before I get into the next long post.. How many forums were you on that survived the advent of social media? Every single one of them I was on is no longer a forum. RDP is the only one that not only survived, but grew about 8 times since FB hit the scene. Our numbers are stronger than ever, and continue to grow each day.

I have built four or five forums (all successful) and have about 20 years experience doing it. Something I'd say is a key to that is actively being involved in the community. Almost everyone on here has my cell #, if they don't it is on the contact us page. I try to resolve any problems I can with people with regard to the site.

But Jesus.. You ever been in a bar where a dude and his chick are just fighting non stop? Kinda ruins the night for everyone, if ya know what I mean.. and that's what's happening here.

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It doesn't have to be rainbows and unicorns.. but when you got a couple of people that can't let shit go, literally fucking up every thread they participate in.. Something has to be done about that. I asked nicely going on what.. 10 times now?

If they don't like the decisions I made, I'll be alright.

RD

I have run and lost a few forums in my day. Not as big as yours but not small potatoes either. So I know what you are going through, but don't have any good advice I can give you since it didn't work out for me.

But just a FYI, you say you can't read PM's., that is not entirely true, you are one check box away from reading PM's. You are also one check box away from your MOD's being able to read PM's. Just because it's not checked at this moment doesn't mean you are not able to read PM's. If you don't know where that check box is your website admin can show you were it is.
 

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Before I get into the next long post.. How many forums were you on that survived the advent of social media? Every single one of them I was on is no longer a forum. RDP is the only one that not only survived, but grew about 8 times since FB hit the scene. Our numbers are stronger than ever, and continue to grow each day.

I have built four or five forums (all successful) and have about 20 years experience doing it. Something I'd say is a key to that is actively being involved in the community. Almost everyone on here has my cell #, if they don't it is on the contact us page. I try to resolve any problems I can with people with regard to the site.

But Jesus.. You ever been in a bar where a dude and his chick are just fighting non stop? Kinda ruins the night for everyone, if ya know what I mean.. and that's what's happening here.

RD

Honestly 3 are the only ones I have ever "frequented". I have no twitter, facebook, Instagram, tiktok, ect.. never have never will..
PlantSand.com
BansheeHQ.com
RiverDavesPlace.com

The owner of planetsand ran it into the ground.

BansheeHQ is still kicking and the owner just bought a condo on LOTO.

And RDP
 

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To the heart of the "free speech" issue.

I am a huge proponent of "free speech" as you have said. That said If you are over at my house and you and a couple of other guys are just non stop going at it, to the point where everybody else in the house is looking at that scene saying "wtf?" You don't get to hide behind the free speech card.

This isn't something that it would even be applicable too. This isn't arguing about civil rights, liberties, philosophy, history, current events.. LOL.

This is arguing about overpriced under delivered off road cars.

The end of the day RDP is a community, and I'm always going to do what's right for the community, even if it is detrimental to my own needs. (which on occasion that has been the case).

Literally the only thing I have ever asked of anyone to be a part of the community is "DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE."

Your other forums you referenced "positive posts", those forums are for the most part also "on topic" forums.. Meaning you stray to far outside the topic they start whacking shit left and right. RDP has never been an "on topic" forum outside of the tech forums.. The common thread is we all like cool / custom shit / boating / off-roading etc.

I have said it literally a 100 times. This is a place to escape work for a few minutes a day. To learn new stuff about boats / the river / boating locations / Offroad / family adventures / drinking beer / having fun.. Good time sports.

If your sole purpose is to come on here and cause problems, then ya aren't gonna be here for very long. It isn't a free speech issue, it is a civility issue.

The only reason I brought up positivity recently is because some of these guys will literally pick anything apart.. Some poor bastard spends every last nickel on his pride and joy and some guys are "yeah it's a shit box". Call me crazy but I don't think that's ok..

This isn't Facebook, nor is it IG.. some shit talking / friendly jokes whatever I'm good with.. but when it passes that and is literally just personal attack after personal attack? Dragging everyone down because their fucking lives are miserable.. Fuck that. They can take that black hole of suck down the road.

I mean most the bullshit between these four or five isn't even funny? How many times do we gotta listen to the same stupid fucking jokes.. One is always saying right on cue, or living rent free. The others are constantly saying Psaski.. It's fucking dumb, and I already got several jobs. I don't need another one pretending this shit is funny. If it was even slightly funny? Shit I'd probably let it stay from an entertaining aspect.

It isn't though. These idiots have taken the delivery of a golf cart, whom most of them have zero actual interest in, and have turned this into something that is almost indescribable. Who actually gives a fuck?

Anyhow I hope that sheds some of my feelings on it. Here again is the rules of the site that were written in 2007.. Pay attention to the ones right in the middle. They have served us well for a long time.

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It would seem to me that everybody here has been on message boards before so I'm going to take a slightly different route then everywhere else with regards to the "rules."

(My faith in humanity getting to me again)

This is a Boating & Customs (anything custom) website primarilly. Please keep the topics atleast somewhat related? If it's just shooting the breeze, then please keep that in "The Lounge"

Common Sense rules are in effect.

The usuals :
Multiple Screen Names, Threatening Someone, Involving Peoples Wives and G/F's, etc.. etc.. That'll all get ya Warning, or two (depending on what it is) and then your out the door. I realize that there's alot of "Grey" areas with regards to that, as people have different ideas of what ok and what's not.

To clear that "grey" area up, it really doesn't matter what anyone other then Myself, or the people that are moderating the forum think. If your pushing it just to push it, then odds are your stay will be short.

As much as I'd like to have a completely "drama" free site, I realize people don't get along, and it's a matter of time before something happens. Keep it to friendly ribbing and you'll get no problems from me. When it crosses that line from "funny" to "angry" is the only time I'll ever get involved.

This is a PG site, so lets leave the Porn to porn sites, and the boats to the boatsites. If you'd get an indecent exposure ticket for it, then it doesn't belong here.

Rules relevant to bashing businesses

If you have a problem with a mfg / dealer / biz from either business dealings in the past, present etc. Then handle it in Private! Via a PM, E-Mail, Phone Call, Lawsuit etc.. Whatever the problem maybe, it is between YOU and THEM, not the rest of the world.

I have never been a fan of people using the internet to "leverage" what they want out of a business, nor have I ever been a fan of someone trying to hurt anothers livelihood through the use of an online message board. "Flaming/Bashing" the businesses that choose to participate in this site is not an option either.

The participation of manufacturers & dealers on my website is far more important to me then some guys need to publicly lambast them.
Please show them the respect they deserve.

AMENDMENT TO BOTH SETS OF RULES.. NO POLITICAL THREADS IN THE LOUNGE, unless it's election time.. People are going to talk about some level of politics no matter what. #TRUMP2024!! (J/K) Seriously try to keep it in the P&G section.


RD
 

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I have run and lost a few forums in my day. Not as big as yours but not small potatoes either. So I know what you are going through, but don't have any good advice I can give you since it didn't work out for me.

But just a FYI, you say you can't read PM's., that is not entirely true, you are one check box away from reading PM's. You are also one check box away from your MOD's being able to read PM's. Just because it's not checked at this moment doesn't mean you are not able to read PM's. If you don't know where that check box is your website admin can show you were it is.

There is no check box in xenforo that would allow someone to do that
 

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I have run and lost a few forums in my day. Not as big as yours but not small potatoes either. So I know what you are going through, but don't have any good advice I can give you since it didn't work out for me.

But just a FYI, you say you can't read PM's., that is not entirely true, you are one check box away from reading PM's. You are also one check box away from your MOD's being able to read PM's. Just because it's not checked at this moment doesn't mean you are not able to read PM's. If you don't know where that check box is your website admin can show you were it is.

There is no check box in xenforo that would allow someone to do that
 

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Kurt capitalizes on my phone because they as a major supplier of mine. They are the largest and probably the best machine shop, work holding vices.

kurt, lower case. 🤷🏼😂
this adds nothing to this conversation. but I sell a ton of Kurt products, i have orders placed through 2023, pallets of vises on my floor at any given time. great stuff.
 

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To the heart of the "free speech" issue.

I am a huge proponent of "free speech" as you have said. That said If you are over at my house and you and a couple of other guys are just non stop going at it, to the point where everybody else in the house is looking at that scene saying "wtf?" You don't get to hide behind the free speech card.

This isn't something that it would even be applicable too. This isn't arguing about civil rights, liberties, philosophy, history, current events.. LOL.

This is arguing about overpriced under delivered off road cars.

The end of the day RDP is a community, and I'm always going to do what's right for the community, even if it is detrimental to my own needs. (which on occasion that has been the case).

Literally the only thing I have ever asked of anyone to be a part of the community is "DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE."

Your other forums you referenced "positive posts", those forums are for the most part also "on topic" forums.. Meaning you stray to far outside the topic they start whacking shit left and right. RDP has never been an "on topic" forum outside of the tech forums.. The common thread is we all like cool / custom shit / boating / off-roading etc.

I have said it literally a 100 times. This is a place to escape work for a few minutes a day. To learn new stuff about boats / the river / boating locations / Offroad / family adventures / drinking beer / having fun.. Good time sports.

If your sole purpose is to come on here and cause problems, then ya aren't gonna be here for very long. It isn't a free speech issue, it is a civility issue.

The only reason I brought up positivity recently is because some of these guys will literally pick anything apart.. Some poor bastard spends every last nickel on his pride and joy and some guys are "yeah it's a shit box". Call me crazy but I don't think that's ok..

This isn't Facebook, nor is it IG.. some shit talking / friendly jokes whatever I'm good with.. but when it passes that and is literally just personal attack after personal attack? Dragging everyone down because their fucking lives are miserable.. Fuck that. They can take that black hole of suck down the road.

I mean most the bullshit between these four or five isn't even funny? How many times do we gotta listen to the same stupid fucking jokes.. One is always saying right on cue, or living rent free. The others are constantly saying Psaski.. It's fucking dumb, and I already got several jobs. I don't need another one pretending this shit is funny. If it was even slightly funny? Shit I'd probably let it stay from an entertaining aspect.

It isn't though. These idiots have taken the delivery of a golf cart, whom most of them have zero actual interest in, and have turned this into something that is almost indescribable. Who actually gives a fuck?

Anyhow I hope that sheds some of my feelings on it. Here again is the rules of the site that were written in 2007.. Pay attention to the ones right in the middle. They have served us well for a long time.

-------------------------


It would seem to me that everybody here has been on message boards before so I'm going to take a slightly different route then everywhere else with regards to the "rules."

(My faith in humanity getting to me again)

This is a Boating & Customs (anything custom) website primarilly. Please keep the topics atleast somewhat related? If it's just shooting the breeze, then please keep that in "The Lounge"

Common Sense rules are in effect.

The usuals :
Multiple Screen Names, Threatening Someone, Involving Peoples Wives and G/F's, etc.. etc.. That'll all get ya Warning, or two (depending on what it is) and then your out the door. I realize that there's alot of "Grey" areas with regards to that, as people have different ideas of what ok and what's not.

To clear that "grey" area up, it really doesn't matter what anyone other then Myself, or the people that are moderating the forum think. If your pushing it just to push it, then odds are your stay will be short.

As much as I'd like to have a completely "drama" free site, I realize people don't get along, and it's a matter of time before something happens. Keep it to friendly ribbing and you'll get no problems from me. When it crosses that line from "funny" to "angry" is the only time I'll ever get involved.

This is a PG site, so lets leave the Porn to porn sites, and the boats to the boatsites. If you'd get an indecent exposure ticket for it, then it doesn't belong here.

Rules relevant to bashing businesses

If you have a problem with a mfg / dealer / biz from either business dealings in the past, present etc. Then handle it in Private! Via a PM, E-Mail, Phone Call, Lawsuit etc.. Whatever the problem maybe, it is between YOU and THEM, not the rest of the world.

I have never been a fan of people using the internet to "leverage" what they want out of a business, nor have I ever been a fan of someone trying to hurt anothers livelihood through the use of an online message board. "Flaming/Bashing" the businesses that choose to participate in this site is not an option either.

The participation of manufacturers & dealers on my website is far more important to me then some guys need to publicly lambast them.
Please show them the respect they deserve.

AMENDMENT TO BOTH SETS OF RULES.. NO POLITICAL THREADS IN THE LOUNGE, unless it's election time.. People are going to talk about some level of politics no matter what. #TRUMP2024!! (J/K) Seriously try to keep it in the P&G section.


RD

This post is better than your original PSA thread!!


I can respect this!
 

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Nice pivot!
You were just about headed for the list.

I'm an asshole(so I've been told)

But not stupid🤣

And as I dont really agree at times, but I have to respect it, or find another place to hang out🤷🏻‍♂️

I honestly was expecting the answer.. "RDP is not publicly traded, until then I'll do WTF I want!" Which, in turn, would have been acceptable also😜
 

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Just one question:
I just read three damn pages...
WTF did I miss?

I'm thinking it was ppp money to buy a golf cart? Maybe an olive? Somebody didn't get a required "fuck off"...or a jilted bromance?

I picked a hell of a day to quit sniffing glue!
 

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I dont know anything about the trainers, i dont think they are related.

The hydraulic fitting is a different division i dont have access too. if it falls under the Kurt "workholding" umbrella i have access to it, and the common items i have on my shelf.
The trainers are absolutely the same Kurt. They’ve sent me 2 of em.
 

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There is no check box in xenforo that would allow someone to do that

Sorry for xenforo its not a check box, i am mistaken. Its an premium feature or if you don't have the premium stuff it's an add-on. So don't play like you can't read PM's if you wanted do. Like I said, I have ran a few forums in my day. And you always have access to the database where you can see everything with a sql qurey for free. Or you can simply login as that user and read there PM's. You have been in this business long enough to know what you can't and cannot do. By replying "there is no check box in xenforo" and not "I can't read anyone's PM in xenforo" shows me you know. Incase you really didn't know how here are the links that allow you to read other's PM so there is no confusion on if you can.

 

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Just one question:
I just read three damn pages...
WTF did I miss?

I'm thinking it was ppp money to buy a golf cart? Maybe an olive? Somebody didn't get a required "fuck off"...or a jilted bromance?

I picked a hell of a day to quit sniffing glue!
Two guys got their panties in a bunch. Dave believes in free speach, just dont be an asshole. Now you're up to Speed.
 
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Good on you for trying to straighten things out with the Speed cheerleader. 😁

Kurt makes some nice hitch products too. 😁
 

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Sorry for xenforo its not a check box, i am mistaken. Its an premium feature or if you don't have the premium stuff it's an add-on. So don't play like you can't read PM's if you wanted do. Like I said, I have ran a few forums in my day. And you always have access to the database where you can see everything with a sql qurey for free. Or you can simply login as that user and read there PM's. You have been in this business long enough to know what you can't and cannot do. By replying "there is no check box in xenforo" and not "I can't read anyone's PM in xenforo" shows me you know. Incase you really didn't know how here are the links that allow you to read other's PM so there is no confusion on if you can.


First I have heard of it, but why would I want to buy it? Lol. I get that most tech guys have some idea that there would be no expectation of privacy.. I think people should be able to pm each other stuff. Why do I give a shit what they say in their private conversations. I’m not god I don’t want to read that shit. Honestly it annoys me that I get the emails back sometimes.

You should know I am the furthest thing from a tech guy as well. I handle exactly zero back end stuff on this website.. to the point I don’t even upload the ads. 😳
 

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First I have heard of it, but why would I want to buy it? Lol. I get that most tech guys have some idea that there would be no expectation of privacy.. I think people should be able to pm each other stuff. Why do I give a shit what they say in their private conversations. I’m not god I don’t want to read that shit. Honestly it annoys me that I get the emails back sometimes.

You should know I am the furthest thing from a tech guy as well. I handle exactly zero back end stuff on this website.. to the point I don’t even upload the ads. 😳

I can give you a reason why I had to do it in the past. Someone accused someone else of sending child porn through PM's. As you are probably aware of even if you didn't "post" the child porn if it's found on your server you can be liable for it. Especially if you were informed of it and didn't do anything. I had to look through PM's and found nothing.

And the only one that costs money is the first link, the rest are free. Reading a database, or telling your web admin (if you are not tech savy) to read the database is also free. Logging in as another user is also free. So money isn't a concern if you want to look at PM's. There are valid reason's to look through PM's. So telling people that you can't look through them is completely false. I am surprised you haven't had a situration where you needed to do that yet.
 

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Gawd Damn it! Post some Fook'n link's so's I kin catch up and make some popcorn!! o_O
 

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First I have heard of it, but why would I want to buy it? Lol. I get that most tech guys have some idea that there would be no expectation of privacy.. I think people should be able to pm each other stuff. Why do I give a shit what they say in their private conversations. I’m not god I don’t want to read that shit. Honestly it annoys me that I get the emails back sometimes.

You should know I am the furthest thing from a tech guy as well. I handle exactly zero back end stuff on this website.. to the point I don’t even upload the ads. 😳

That's a good point, what if I accused LOF of sending me child porn through PM's. Are you just going to let that slide with the notion "I can't read PM's". I think you would go into both accounts and see if it's really happening.

For the record LOF didn't send me anything, it was just an example.
 

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I can give you a reason why I had to do it in the past. Someone accused someone else of sending child porn through PM's. As you are probably aware of even if you didn't "post" the child porn if it's found on your server you can be liable for it. Especially if you were informed of it and didn't do anything. I had to look through PM's and found nothing.

And the only one that costs money is the first link, the rest are free. Reading a database, or telling your web admin (if you are not tech savy) to read the database is also free. Logging in as another user is also free. So money isn't a concern if you want to look at PM's. There are valid reason's to look through PM's. So telling people that you can't look through them is completely false. I am surprised you haven't had a situration where you needed to do that yet.
I would tend to agree. Here on RDP, a moderator, (?) goes into folks account and changes sig lines or adds them. If they can do that, how can they not be able to read a PM?
 

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First I have heard of it, but why would I want to buy it? Lol. I get that most tech guys have some idea that there would be no expectation of privacy.. I think people should be able to pm each other stuff. Why do I give a shit what they say in their private conversations. I’m not god I don’t want to read that shit. Honestly it annoys me that I get the emails back sometimes.

You should know I am the furthest thing from a tech guy as well. I handle exactly zero back end stuff on this website.. to the point I don’t even upload the ads. 😳
Shit and all this time I thought you sold computers...... Hahaha!
 

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I would tend to agree. Here on RDP, a moderator, (?) goes into folks account and changes sig lines or adds them. If they can do that, how can they not be able to read a PM?

Well if they couldn't all they have to do is click on one of merc400 links and now they can. So if they weren't before, no reason to think they are not going to be in the future. Thanks merc :mad::mad:
 

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I dont own a "gun safe" and I got in.. nor would I send a pic, if I did.. all my guns are "safe" no reason to punish them and "lock them up" to be safe🤣
I might be mistaken, but I was pretty sure about the gun safe thing
 

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First I have heard of it, but why would I want to buy it? Lol. I get that most tech guys have some idea that there would be no expectation of privacy.. I think people should be able to pm each other stuff. Why do I give a shit what they say in their private conversations. I’m not god I don’t want to read that shit. Honestly it annoys me that I get the emails back sometimes.

You should know I am the furthest thing from a tech guy as well. I handle exactly zero back end stuff on this website.. to the point I don’t even upload the ads. 😳

In laymen terms, If you asked your web admin to email you every PM from user X:

If he says he can't do it: Fire him on the spot
If he says it will take an hour or more: Fire him on the spot
If he says is PDF ok? Say yes.

This is the equivalent to a mechanic changing oil. If he says he can't do it, fire him. If he struggles with getting the oil filter off for an hour fire him.
 

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I might be mistaken, but I was pretty sure about the gun safe thing

You think dave is going to make you show your "collection"? Nope.. he did say that at one time but that's when GRADS and a few other libs(non gun people) wanted in! It was just a way to stop them from getting in.. you have enough "big game" pics on here it shouldn't even be a question(and yes I'm a little jealous)

@RiverDave this guy dont have access to the G&A? Come on mannn...
 

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You think dave is going to make you show your "collection"? Nope.. he did say that at one time but that's when GRADS and a few other libs(non gun people) wanted in! It was just a way to stop them from getting in.. you have enough "big game" pics on here it should even be a question(and yes I'm a little jealous)

@RiverDave this guy dont have access to the G&A? Come on mannn...
I’ve never asked for access. I saw the requirements and opted out
 
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