Attacked while walking out pups

[brgrcru]

Dogs are purpose bred animals

Thats why an untrained lab keeps bringing back a tennis ball, the worst trained Austrailian shepherd will attempt to heard your family on a hike and an untrained beagle will be long gone at the sight of a rabbit

Now what were pits bred for?

Nothing like a good pit bull thread. [emoji57]

That being said any breed can go from "lover" to attack mode no matter how much you think you know your dog

Our 2 year old got helicopter ride and a week in icu from the later

1st paragraph was great :thumbup:. only one tennis ball. our black lab use to put 3 in his mouth. and yes my cousins Aussie like to heard everyone around.

 

[blacksockdown]

:thumbup:

We've been taking them to Castle Rock once the puppy parvo period passed. They are both 6 years old. J.R. could stand in the water all day long if you let him.

J.R. as a pup (Castle Rock)

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Last year (Castle Rock)

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June as a pup (Rock House launch ramp)

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Last December (Rock Bar)

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I could look@pics of Labs all fukn day! Beautiful pups!

 

[Advantage 1]

I could look@pics of Labs all fukn day! Beautiful pups!

Thanks.

 

[throttle]

:yikes

glad something worse didn't come of this!

 

[RaceNeked]

... for the 'yotes; or uncontrolled vicious dog(s).

I hear ya, our dogs are 'family' too.

 

[Ultracrazy]

Waiting for ole "you know who" to blow this thread wide open

 

[92562]

Same thing happened to my wife and a neighbor. They were walking a route they have walked for 5 years and had always heard dogs barking from a certain house. On that day, the kids of the house (4 and 5 years old) came running out the door to pet the "doggie", my neighbor's Sheba Inu, Amy. Amy is the polar opposite of the temperment of most Shebas and is the sweetest dog you would ever know. Unfortunately, as the kids ran out the door (and ACROSS THE STREET) their two pit bulls followed! The 2 pits got on either side of Amy and my wife & neighbor tried to get between them and Amy when suddenly one of the pits got a hold of Amy by the rump and started shaking her like a rag doll. My neighbor began kicking the pit with all he had and after 3 hits, the pit let go. My wife was able to fend off the other pit (obviously not the alpha). Unfortunately the pit left a hell of a mark on poor Amy. Both Mom & Dad of the kids work in OC and the 2 Grandma's take turns watching the kids every other day. Mom & Dad are still paying off the vet bills. If it were my dog (Amy) I would have made sure the offending pit was put down!

 

[Mr. C]

A1, I'm so glad to hear the pup is doing ok. :thumbup: I was expecting to read of a much worse outcome.

Hopefully that lady learns from this and makes sure that dog can't get out again especially if it's dog aggressive.

The dog attacked for no reason. IT'S AGGRESSIVE. That dog needs to be put down. It will do it again!
I don't care if it's a pit, Golden, Lab, German Shepard or Dalmation if a dog attacks for the sake of attacking It needs to be put down!.

 

[TPC]

You can't reason with drunks and dog owners.
Be prepared.
We had a 8 year old girl mauled by a dog at Echo and the dogs owners were totally indifferent.

 

[scouter]

Oh Man, I hate reading about these stories. I am glad your dogs are fine......

A couple months ago, my wife took our dog (beagle spaniel mix) for a walk down to our local launch ramp. There was a pit bull mix off leash that came up to them. The owner and his pals were down on the dock fishing. The dogs started rubbing noses and all of a sudden, the pit takes our dog down by the neck. My wife has mace (sp) on the leash but forgot about it. She jumped on top of the pit and started choking it out. The owner came up and asked what he could do. My wife said "GET MY DOG!"..... They got them separated. Our dog had 2 holes in his neck. My wife asked why his dog was off leash and he said, "I figured I would hear a car driving up if someone came down"..... Well duh, people walk too. Anyway, we got his contact info in case any complications came up, which thankfully they didn't.......

 

[BHC Vic]

A1, I'm so glad to hear the pup is doing ok. :thumbup: I was expecting to read of a much worse outcome.


The dog attacked for no reason. IT'S AGGRESSIVE. That dog needs to be put down. It will do it again!
I don't care if it's a pit, Golden, Lab, German Shepard or Dalmation if a dog attacks for the sake of attacking It needs to be put down!.

This is a very very touchy subject for me u can pm me if u want more details but I don't believe that's true. I strongly disagree

 

[TPC]

Most dog laws like leash laws are to protect the dog from it's own owners negligence and indifference.

Just takes one complaining call from a neighboring homeowner to get a dog hauled off here in Simi.
This has all come about from indifferent dog owners.

Dog poisoning is usually directly linked to uncontrolled barking.
Again, indifference by the dog owners.

 

[was thatguy]

This is a very very touchy subject for me u can pm me if u want more details but I don't believe that's true. I strongly disagree

Spill it V.

The mere sight of your mustache could set ANY dog off!!

 

[GRADS]

Pit Bulls suck.

 

[Abc123]

Most dog laws like leash laws are to protect the dog from it's own owners negligence and indifference.

Just takes one complaining call from a neighboring homeowner to get a dog hauled off here in Simi.
This has all come about from indifferent dog owners.

Dog poisoning is usually directly linked to uncontrolled barking.
Again, indifference by the dog owners.

I have to admit that this crossed my mind a few times when struggling to sleep or maintain any level of sanity due to my neighbors rat dogs that would bark at all hours of the day and night.

Myself and the neighbors had to sit before a city mediator. It was ruled that the dog owners had to pay a fine. I pushed and succeed for one citation per dog, because I wanted my neighbors to know that I meant business.

They now keep the dogs locked in a kennel in their garage where I can't hear them.

The justice served was nice, but it took almost a year to get it.

 

[Old Texan]

Houston news typically has 2-3 dog attack reports every week. They could have more as more happen, so they just use the more brutal attacks. And the stories all seem about the same. Territorial dogs kept in yards that find a way out and attack the first person/animal they see. Owners that don't take the time or precautions.

And still, even with deaths and maulings of humans and animals, the story goes on and on. A guy recently shot and killed an aggressive animal at a dog park. He was chastised in the news, but was no-billed by the local LE as he was said to act in self defense. If a person does not know their animal well enough to have a pretty firm idea on how they will act around other dogs, do not take them around other dogs, plain and simple. Pits are just more equipped to do damage. But at the end of the day: It's a people problem.

 

[RiverDave]

This has been gone over probably 200 times on here, but here we go again..

DOGS ARE DOGS.. It doesn't matter the breed they are all just dogs. To say anything different then that is pure ignorance at best. Now some may have more tenacity then others, some may have more capabilities to inflict damage, and endure pain, ignore everything but the task at hand (commonly referred to as "game"), or another way of saying that, is some protect homes and children better then other breeds.. it's all in how you word it.

The same thing that makes Pit's the star of the media is the same thing that makes them perfect for protecting a family.

A pit bull that attacks a dog, will attack a small child. I'd be very worried about that dog in my neighborhood. Next time it will be kids playing outside. Call animal control and have them investigate the situation.

That's nuts.. There are lots of dogs out there that are "dog aggressive" but are fine around people and kids. The only "skirmish" that my dog "Sasha" has ever been in, was because my neighbors dog got in between her and my kids, and she went after it. Nothing really happened.. So is that to say that my kids are in danger around my dog because she went after another dog? What kind of reasoning is that?

Sasha is practically a baby sitter in my house. When the kids take their electric cars up and down the street, the dog is walking right beside them. Before Sasha we had Neva (pit mix). Neva was somewhat dog aggressive, meaning that she didn't generally go out and attack dogs, but she took exactly zero shit from another dog, and if they gave her any it was game on.

She was as gentle as a down pillow with Sierra, right up until the day she died. She never, NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER, showed any aggression towards a child. When I lived in Irvine she was practically the neighborhood mascot and spent quite a few afternoons with the kids in the neighborhood. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her with another dog. I would trust her more then some people I know around my kids to this very day if she was alive.

Thank goodness you, your wife and your sweet pups are okay. I'm glad that raising the pitbull's hind end worked for you. We tried to break up a dog fight (American Bulldog attacking a German Shorthair Pointer) and that maneuver didn't work for me. The guys went straight for the dog's neck and I held the dogs hind end up, just as I had seen.... yah, he peed and blew his anal glands all over me. Bastard - freeking grossest thing ever. The dog didn't let go until Mr.DB took his flashlight out and clocked him in the head.

I have never heard of this wheel barrow move, but I'm not sure I'd do it. Every time I have ever broken up a dog fight I just grab the dog by the back of the neck and start lifting. I have never had a dog not let go of the other dog if you do it right.. That being said, it also gives you the opportunity to use your other hand to strangle the f'n thing if you have too. For just about anything 120'ish and below I wouldn't have a problem with it. Larger Rotties etc.. I'm not sure you could deal with it that way you'd have to figure something else out, which would probably be just kicking the holy f'n shit out of the dog and hoping you can discourage it to find another hobbie.

Generally speaking this is about what I have had to do at the dog parks in the past.

[video=youtube;vsTx_uR0fVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTx_uR0fVU[/video]

Would you bet one of your children's health and safety on that?
Putting animal control and the owner on notice that an unprovoked attack has occurred is smart.

If.the answer to my question is yes, keep it out yourself. I'll end up typing stuff that will get me banned.:cool

Read above.. I have had dogs that were dog aggressive but were fine around kids. That being said I wouldn't trust my kids around some neighbors dog that was aggressive at a fence line, that's ludicrous. I do'nt care what kind of dog it is.

Sounds like you ran into a decent owner who has a dog she is unable to control.
I would second the idea that AC needs to be contacted and a report filed. You don't know that this is the first time this has happened, there may be a file on this animal already. If not, there certainly needs to be one and the owner provided with some options on how to proceed. While I don't say "All" about any breed of dog, I will say that ANY large dog that can't be controlled by it's owner represents a potential risk to people and other animals.
Any dog that flies out the front door and attacks another dog that is simply walking by is a potential problem.
Her words, "Get back, stay in, get back" tell me she had an inkling what was liable to happen, if the dog got out, and that also tells me she knows she can't control the dog in some situations.
When one of those situations is simply a couple walking their (leashed, controlled ) dogs down the street, well, you have problem dog and a problem owner, no matter how nice she was.
Bad scenario all around.
Glad you were able to stop the attack.
Frankly, I think you exercised extreme restraint.
More than I would have. Much more.

Pretty much..

Great Job!! You are the reason that your dog survived!!!
I don't care how badly the owner feels, she knew her dog was that way.
RD...You can try to defend Pit Bulls all you'd like. They are mostly inbread shit that shit people want so they can look tough/cool. I know that there are good ones but the majority/many are not. The sooner people realize that the better.

I had 2 of them.. I never felt like I looked tough or cool. They were just good dogs, that were a part of my family. No different then someone may feel about their labs, or their?

As much as I love the animals there is no way a vicious dog weighing less than half what I weigh will get over on me or any one I'm protecting.

Exactly.

What did your other dog do doing this ordeal? My male would of went crazy if another dog attacked his bitch. Good thing it was not just her walking the dog by herself.

Interestingly enough in a straight up dog fight scenario.. Males fight until they get tired, or figure out who's in charge. Females fight to the death.. LOL

Many years ago My then wife and I were walking our dog ( 65 LB Airdale ) past a house that had a junk yard dog ( much bigger dobe ) chained to the side of a garage. ( no fence - just the chain ) We did this daily and ever time the other dog would lunge at the end of it's chain.
Well this day the chain snapped. My wife screamed, our dog lunged and yanked the leash from her hand. Our dog hit the other bigger dog with his chest and knocked it off it's feet and had it by the throat within one second. The other dog just laid there until the owner came out and got it. Never screw with an Airdale Terrier. They don't have any fear and won't stop until you drag them apart. They like to use their chest to knock the other dog off it's feet. Never saw that dog again.

Now had that story had "pitbull" instead of airdale, then people would be saying you must be white trash, and trying to prove how tough your dog is and how cool you are.. LOL Do you feel like you were doing any of those things?

Damn. You just NEVER freaking know what Dog and where. Shit and even what time.

The outcome...:thumbup::thumbup:

This.. doesn't matter what the breed. You never know when and where, and MOST IMPORTANTLY "why." The closest anybody has ever come to speaking dog was Cesar.. Unless anybody in this thread speaks "dog" then no one can say "There was no reason, it was unprovoked." There's always a reason, it's just we don't know what it is or what causes it.

Dogs are purpose bred animals

Thats why an untrained lab keeps bringing back a tennis ball, the worst trained Austrailian shepherd will attempt to heard your family on a hike and an untrained beagle will be long gone at the sight of a rabbit

Now what were pits bred for?

Nothing like a good pit bull thread. [emoji57]

That being said any breed can go from "lover" to attack mode no matter how much you think you know your dog

Our 2 year old got helicopter ride and a week in icu from the later

25 lb pits were bred to fight in the ring.. 50-60 lb pits were bred to protect children along wagon trails, and deal with life in the country.. Much bigger then that they were bred for "thug life." LOL.. I'm not even sure you can call them pits anymore.

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... for the 'yotes; or uncontrolled vicious dog(s).

I hear ya, our dogs are 'family' too.

In LHC, you are damn right. If the scenario gets out of control and you can't break it up, then "boom." No more problemo.. Although you'd have to deal with the cops for discharging a firearm.

Waiting for ole "you know who" to blow this thread wide open

BOOM... LOL

You can't reason with drunks and dog owners.
Be prepared.
We had a 8 year old girl mauled by a dog at Echo and the dogs owners were totally indifferent.

That's crazy..

Pit Bulls suck.

:rolleyes Some dog owners suck.. I'm not sure any breed of dog specifically sucks.

RD

 

[dschifan]

Gotta love when pit bull owners always say "any dog can be aggressive and attack" . That is 100 percent accurate but when was the last time you seen a lab lock jaws on something and not let go when getting smacked with a bat . Witnessed a "good" pit bull lock onto a dog when I was 10 being walked by its owner and that was the end of that pup. That dog was around me a bunch and never thought it would kill like that and not let go getting hit with a bat. I guarantee a lab would have dropped a dog first swing.

 

[Abc123]

Gotta love when pit bull owners always say "any dog can be aggressive and attack" . That is 100 percent accurate but when was the last time you seen a lab lock jaws on something and not let go when getting smacked with a bat . Witnessed a "good" pit bull lock onto a dog when I was 10 being walked by its owner and that was the end of that pup. That dog was around me a bunch and never thought it would kill like that and not let go getting hit with a bat. I guarantee a lab would have dropped a dog first swing.

Exactly!

It's like someone having a pet lion that attacks and kills a dog. The Lion owner would say, "but any type of animal could have attacked your dog". :rolleyes

Pit bulls have "kill" in their DNA. Period.

 

[RiverDave]

Gotta love when pit bull owners always say "any dog can be aggressive and attack" . That is 100 percent accurate but when was the last time you seen a lab lock jaws on something and not let go when getting smacked with a bat . Witnessed a "good" pit bull lock onto a dog when I was 10 being walked by its owner and that was the end of that pup. That dog was around me a bunch and never thought it would kill like that and not let go getting hit with a bat. I guarantee a lab would have dropped a dog first swing.

I have had 2 pits, and been around a ton of them. Generally if there's a squabble the quickest way to break it up is to divert the dogs attention to something else. If you are sitting there hitting it with bats, you are escalating the situation, not unwinding it. Ironically enough that same tenacity you are referring too is what makes them great family pets. So long as you never let the dog even remotely think it is an alpha over anything anybody (including children) and it is the lowest on the totum pole as far as the pack is concerned.. Then all that negative stuff because real positive real quick.

RD

 

[RiverDave]

At the end of the day the only thing that matters is Advantage1's pup came away fairly unscathed. That's all that really matters. It doesn't matter what kind of dog attacked them, I'm happy he was able to break it up quickly and nothing too terrible happened. I'm also happy that he had enough restraint to handle the situation without escalating it "personally" by killing it on the spot.

I hope that lady ends up getting help from a professional on how to control her crazy dog.

RD

 

[CampbellCarl]

Gotta love when pit bull owners always say "any dog can be aggressive and attack" . That is 100 percent accurate but when was the last time you seen a lab lock jaws on something and not let go when getting smacked with a bat . Witnessed a "good" pit bull lock onto a dog when I was 10 being walked by its owner and that was the end of that pup. That dog was around me a bunch and never thought it would kill like that and not let go getting hit with a bat. I guarantee a lab would have dropped a dog first swing.

I got no 'dog in this hunt'...haha see what I did there?

Just wanted to say that it was nice to meet you last Friday...lets hook up on the water this summer.

CC

 

[dschifan]

I got no 'dog in this hunt'...haha see what I did there?

Just wanted to say that it was nice to meet you last Friday...lets hook up on the water this summer.

CC

Lol nice meeting you to finally and definitely this summer!

 

[was thatguy]

This has been gone over probably 200 times on here, but here we go again..

DOGS ARE DOGS.. It doesn't matter the breed they are all just dogs. To say anything different then that is pure ignorance at best. Now some may have more tenacity then others, some may have more capabilities to inflict damage, and endure pain, ignore everything but the task at hand (commonly referred to as "game"), or another way of saying that, is some protect homes and children better then other breeds.. it's all in how you word it.

The same thing that makes Pit's the star of the media is the same thing that makes them perfect for protecting a family.



That's nuts.. There are lots of dogs out there that are "dog aggressive" but are fine around people and kids. The only "skirmish" that my dog "Sasha" has ever been in, was because my neighbors dog got in between her and my kids, and she went after it. Nothing really happened.. So is that to say that my kids are in danger around my dog because she went after another dog? What kind of reasoning is that?

Sasha is practically a baby sitter in my house. When the kids take their electric cars up and down the street, the dog is walking right beside them. Before Sasha we had Neva (pit mix). Neva was somewhat dog aggressive, meaning that she didn't generally go out and attack dogs, but she took exactly zero shit from another dog, and if they gave her any it was game on.

She was as gentle as a down pillow with Sierra, right up until the day she died. She never, NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER, showed any aggression towards a child. When I lived in Irvine she was practically the neighborhood mascot and spent quite a few afternoons with the kids in the neighborhood. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her with another dog. I would trust her more then some people I know around my kids to this very day if she was alive.



I have never heard of this wheel barrow move, but I'm not sure I'd do it. Every time I have ever broken up a dog fight I just grab the dog by the back of the neck and start lifting. I have never had a dog not let go of the other dog if you do it right.. That being said, it also gives you the opportunity to use your other hand to strangle the f'n thing if you have too. For just about anything 120'ish and below I wouldn't have a problem with it. Larger Rotties etc.. I'm not sure you could deal with it that way you'd have to figure something else out, which would probably be just kicking the holy f'n shit out of the dog and hoping you can discourage it to find another hobbie.

Generally speaking this is about what I have had to do at the dog parks in the past.

[video=youtube;vsTx_uR0fVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTx_uR0fVU[/video]



Read above.. I have had dogs that were dog aggressive but were fine around kids. That being said I wouldn't trust my kids around some neighbors dog that was aggressive at a fence line, that's ludicrous. I do'nt care what kind of dog it is.



Pretty much..



I had 2 of them.. I never felt like I looked tough or cool. They were just good dogs, that were a part of my family. No different then someone may feel about their labs, or their?



Exactly.



Interestingly enough in a straight up dog fight scenario.. Males fight until they get tired, or figure out who's in charge. Females fight to the death.. LOL



Now had that story had "pitbull" instead of airdale, then people would be saying you must be white trash, and trying to prove how tough your dog is and how cool you are.. LOL Do you feel like you were doing any of those things?



This.. doesn't matter what the breed. You never know when and where, and MOST IMPORTANTLY "why." The closest anybody has ever come to speaking dog was Cesar.. Unless anybody in this thread speaks "dog" then no one can say "There was no reason, it was unprovoked." There's always a reason, it's just we don't know what it is or what causes it.



25 lb pits were bred to fight in the ring.. 50-60 lb pits were bred to protect children along wagon trails, and deal with life in the country.. Much bigger then that they were bred for "thug life." LOL.. I'm not even sure you can call them pits anymore.




In LHC, you are damn right. If the scenario gets out of control and you can't break it up, then "boom." No more problemo.. Although you'd have to deal with the cops for discharging a firearm.



BOOM... LOL



That's crazy..



:rolleyes Some dog owners suck.. I'm not sure any breed of dog specifically sucks.

RD

I sincerely and truly hope that you NEVER have a reason to change your mind RD.

I have had 2 pits, and been around a ton of them. Generally if there's a squabble the quickest way to break it up is to divert the dogs attention to something else. If you are sitting there hitting it with bats, you are escalating the situation, not unwinding it. Ironically enough that same tenacity you are referring too is what makes them great family pets. So long as you never let the dog even remotely think it is an alpha over anything anybody (including children) and it is the lowest on the totum pole as far as the pack is concerned.. Then all that negative stuff because real positive real quick.

RD

99 times out of 100...but that ONE time might destroy your world. The risk of that one time is NOT WORTH IT.

I won't bore everyone with the same story I've told just as many times as you've told yours except to say that I used to tell your story too..right up until when I didn't tell it anymore.
I also had 2 pits, and a Chow, and a massive Doby, and a Rott, etc. at different times.

One thing I NEVER saw when any of those dogs engaged was a "squabble"...what I saw was vicious intent to rip each other apart.


You can not compare pits with MOST other dog breeds...you just can't do it. Some can do that damage that fast, but not many.
protect the kids? OK, lets run with that. Protect them from whom? Does a dog KNOW like a human knows just WHO the danger is?
No...a dog can not identify specifics readily, so ANY one outside the pack can easily become a threat in an instant...for seemingly no reason to a human...but for all kinds of reasons to the dog.

"The dog did not mean to kill your boy and his dog...he thought they were a threat" really doesn't work in court.

And if it ever happens, it will happen in a blink...

 

[RiverDave]

You really believe those last two paragraphs?

 

[DaveC]

The only thing I got from this thread is that Greg owns a gay ass dog.

This is my worst nightmare. As someone that walks a 15 pound dog everyday I'm always concerned about this very situation. Glad there were no serious injuries.

That and RD is a pit bull nutswinger.

 

[was thatguy]

You really believe those last two paragraphs?

I do now, I didn't years ago.

 

[RiverDave]

The only thing I got from this thread is that Greg owns a gay ass dog.




That and RD is a pit bull nutswinger.

I don't have a pitbull anymore.. We moved up to small bear.

RD

 

[wsuwrhr]

In my experience if you just pick the dog up, everything stops..

If you are talking about picking up the dog that is going to be attacked....

Ah no. Now you just became the guy holding a dog that is going to be attacked.

 

[RCDave]

I'm around about 70-100 breeds almost every weekend. In my experience there is a significant difference in temperment of specific breeds. I stay clear of many of them due to their inate genetic tendencies. There are many that are aggressive and have the size, strength, and desire to attack.

All dogs are not the same

 

[RiverDave]

If you are talking about picking up the dog that is going to be attacked....

Ah no. Now you just became the guy holding a dog that is going to be attacked.

Can only tell you what I have seen Brian. If you don't want to pick up the ankle biter, then don't. I'd pick it up.

I'm around about 70-100 breeds almost every weekend. In my experience there is a significant difference in temperment of specific breeds. I stay clear of many of them due to their inate genetic tendencies. There are many that are aggressive and have the size, strength, and desire to attack.

All dogs are not the same

Why do they all react the same to Cesar's methods? Dogs are dogs..

RD

 

[wsuwrhr]

Can only tell you what I have seen Brian. If you don't want to pick up the ankle biter, then don't. I'd pick it up.


RD

Gotcha.

 

[RCDave]

No doubt Cesar is a great trainer of dogs. Just because a dog can be trained doesnt change the nature of a specific dog breed. They were not all bred for the same purpose. Some are bred to sit on your lap. Some are bred to hunt bear. Some are bred to protect. Some to herd. Some are bred to live in an igloo with children and pull sleds. Many non-pure breds are bred to fight and kill.

The tendancies were bred into breed temperments for long time frames and cannot be easily removed.

In my experience and opinion all dogs are not the same, despite exhibiting some similar traits.

 

[wsuwrhr]

No doubt Cesar is a great trainer of dogs. Just because a dog can be trained doesnt change the nature of a specific dog breed. They were not all bred for the same purpose. Some are bred to sit on your lap. Some are bred to hunt bear. Some are bred to protect. Some to herd. Some are bred to live in an igloo with children and pull sleds. Many non-pure breds are bred to fight and kill.

The tendancies were bred into breed temperments for long time frames and cannot be easily removed.

In my experience and opinion all dogs are not the same, despite exhibiting some similar traits.

I have said something similar before, pits, rots, german sheperds and the like, only have the greater CAPABILITY to injure, kill, or maim because of their size. Plenty of dogs exhibit aggressive temperments.

I own two pit breeds and I have them to protect my family. The kids are never in the backyard without at least one of them outside with them. At night my oldest has one of them in her room for the same reason. I can't be everywhere and I have to sleep sometime.

...and I sleep well.

Like RD said, mine know who the Alphas are and it ain't them.

Brian

 

[RCDave]

I have said something similar before, pits, rots, german sheperds and the like, only have the greater CAPABILITY to injure, kill, or maim because of their size. Plenty of dogs exhibit aggressive temperments.

I own two pit breeds and I have them to protect my family. The kids are never in the backyard without at least one of them outside with them. At night my oldest has one of them in her room for the same reason. I can't be everywhere and I have to sleep sometime.

...and I sleep well.

Like RD said, mine know who the Alphas are and it ain't them.

Brian

Some breeds were specifically bred to incorporate more aggressive temperments. Physical size and strength just allows them to utilize these temperments to inflict more damage. Those types of temperments increase the probability of an attack.

I am not saying some individual dogs within certain typically docile tempered breeds cannot be aggressive. Extremes can occur but are more typically due to poor breeding practices, abuse, poor canine/human socialization, etc.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Not correct. Some breeds were specifically bred to incorporate more aggressive temperments. Physical size and strength just allows them to utilize these temperments to inflict more damage.

Exactly what I said....

I got some bad news about a pissed off poodle. It makes a nice football. Still makes an aggressive dog.

Not so much for a 150lb Rott. But the Rott is capable to inflict major damage.

 

[Ziggy]

I think the meanest with poorest temperament dog I've seen is the full sized poodles. Them fuggers are nasty. Same bitchy attitude of the little ones but with the size and strength to maim.

 

[RCDave]

Exactly what I said....

I got some bad news about a pissed off poodle. It makes a nice football. Still makes an aggressive dog.

Not so much for a 150lb Rott. But the Rott is capable to inflict major damage.

Sorry if I misunderstood your prior comment. The problem here lies in the percentage of aggressive dogs within certain breeds. Pits, Rotts, Akitas, GSD's, etc due to their intended use, incorporated more aggressive tendencies and have higher incidence of aggression. I give these breeds very wide berths when walking my dogs at dog shows.

 

[Ziggy]

Sorry if I misunderstood your prior comment. The problem here lies in the percentage of aggressive dogs within certain breeds. Pits, Rotts, Akitas, GSD's, etc due to their intended use, incorporated more aggressive tendencies and have higher incidence of aggression. I give these breeds very wide berths when walking my dogs at dog shows.

Funny you say this. My next post was gonna ask what breed the members are leery of.
I've been bitten by a Dobie in the chest so I'm always cautious around them. Pits in general give me pause but they are not all alike by any means.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Funny you say this. My next post was gonna ask what breed the members are leery of.
I've been bitten by a Dobie in the chest so I'm always cautious around them. Pits in general give me pause but they are not all alike by any means.

I'm leery of ANY big breed dog that I am not familiar with. Any dog can be aggressive.

Simple as that.

If we are out walking with my dogs, I am more than happy with people being leery of me for the same reason. That is why we have them.

 

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Same thing happened to my wife and a neighbor. They were walking a route they have walked for 5 years and had always heard dogs barking from a certain house. On that day, the kids of the house (4 and 5 years old) came running out the door to pet the "doggie", my neighbor's Sheba Inu, Amy. Amy is the polar opposite of the temperment of most Shebas and is the sweetest dog you would ever know. Unfortunately, as the kids ran out the door (and ACROSS THE STREET) their two pit bulls followed! The 2 pits got on either side of Amy and my wife & neighbor tried to get between them and Amy when suddenly one of the pits got a hold of Amy by the rump and started shaking her like a rag doll. My neighbor began kicking the pit with all he had and after 3 hits, the pit let go. My wife was able to fend off the other pit (obviously not the alpha). Unfortunately the pit left a hell of a mark on poor Amy. Both Mom & Dad of the kids work in OC and the 2 Grandma's take turns watching the kids every other day. Mom & Dad are still paying off the vet bills. If it were my dog (Amy) I would have made sure the offending pit was put down!

Poor Amy.

We have yet to hear back from Animal Control, although we only contacted them yesterday. Really curious as to what they say...

 

[RiverDave]

Sorry if I misunderstood your prior comment. The problem here lies in the percentage of aggressive dogs within certain breeds. Pits, Rotts, Akitas, GSD's, etc due to their intended use, incorporated more aggressive tendencies and have higher incidence of aggression. I give these breeds very wide berths when walking my dogs at dog shows.

I used to work pet tradeshows when my old man invented that ez clip leash deal (It's part of the lil pals line now). I can say invariably that the worst dog owners on the planet are the people that go to those shows.. LOL

It's an animal. If you spoil it rotten, let it walk out in front of you, treat it like royalty, etc.. then odds are you are going to have an asshole dog. I took Neva with me to several shows. I looked around and she was the only one that wasn't yanking on the leash, didn't have her tail straight up, ears forward (aggressive dominant behavior), at several shows. I actually stopped taking her, because because most the dogs there were so badly behaved I didn't want that shit rubbing off on her.

RD

 

[wsuwrhr]

My inlaws had an English Lab that was huge. Damn head had to be 10 wide. Well over 150Lbs. Big dog, big food, big shit.

I was never worried about him as he was just a big oaf, but walk that dog next to Mopar and people would cross over to the other side of the street. I was fine with it.

Brian

 

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My inlaws had an English Lab that was huge. Damn head had to be 10 wide. Well over 150Lbs. Big dog, big food, big shit.

I was never worried about him as he was just a big oaf, but walk that dog next to Mopar and people would cross over to the other side of the street. I was fine with it.

Brian

My two are English Labs. J.R. is 144 pounds (and on a diet) and June is 112. Big, but also solid.

 

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Funny you say this. My next post was gonna ask what breed the members are leery of.
I've been bitten by a Dobie in the chest so I'm always cautious around them. Pits in general give me pause but they are not all alike by any means.

This was the first time in my life one of my pups have been attacked. And I have never had any dog do anything to me either. I guess we always felt comfortable... well, times have changed.

 

[RCDave]

Funny you say this. My next post was gonna ask what breed the members are leery of.
I've been bitten by a Dobie in the chest so I'm always cautious around them. Pits in general give me pause but they are not all alike by any means.

Akita, Bouvier, Kuvasz, Rotts, GSD's, Tibetan Mastiff, St. Bernards. While I keep my dogs at a distance from Dobie's, I've never seen the same level of issues with this breed. It's not a coincidence these breeds attack more often than other breeds. Aggression is what they were created for.

 

[RCDave]

AKC Dog show's, not to be confused with dog trade shows (like any other human activity) attract a small percentage of extremes. But by far (95% plus) most of the people and their dogs are mellow well behaved and great examples of people and dogs.

I've met some of the best people on the plant at AKC dog shows. But there is always a stinky butt in every crowd! lol

 

[Ziggy]

This was the first time in my life one of my pups have been attacked. And I have never had any dog do anything to me either. I guess we always felt comfortable... well, times have changed.

Our dog (we just put down a week ago) was attacked by two little white ankle biters once. I had my Shepard mix restrained on a leash but if those dogs hadn't backed down when I yelled I'd have released my dog on them. Dumb little white dogs.:rolleyes Those were the only dogs my dog disliked in her 13 year lifetime.

I should've called....we rode our bikes to the Harbor and had dinner at the Broiler last night.

 

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Our dog (we just put down a week ago) was attacked by two little white ankle biters once. I had my Shepard mix restrained on a leash but if those dogs hadn't backed down when I yelled I'd have released my dog on them. Dumb little white dogs.:rolleyes Those were the only dogs my dog disliked in her 13 year lifetime.

I should've called....we rode our bikes to the Harbor and had dinner at the Broiler last night.

[emoji22] I remember.

Thanks, that would have been nice. Next time. We have been going there more and more. We like it.