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This thread is going to have some pretty trick shit, I figured you guys might enjoy some of the stuff that my new project has going on. The house is a new construction for lack of a better term "Mcmansion". It a massive 11000 sq.ft house set on 2.5 acres. This week I am doing a coffered ceiling in the study. The layout/on site design took 23 man hours and is within a 1/32" in all directions "XYZ". Some guys just start in a corner and fight the sumbitch until they get done, I prefer a more methodical approach from the beginning and then fight the sumbitch until I get done:D I am guessing I will have about 200 man hours in this ceiling (not including finish) but I learned along time ago "It is what it is". If you look closely you will see some strings layed out in a grid pattern, the string line represents where the wood will be and is used as a reference so I can figure out what the hell is going on. If this part of the process is done correctly the actual woodworking will be smooth sailing.
 

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Here are some shots of some wood starting to go up
 

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That looks like fun ( not joking, I love doing stuff like that)
 

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Nice. I have respect for the patience and expertise that took to put up.

I am used to the framers thinking that the drywallers will fix it....and the drywallers thinking the tapers will fix it, and the tapers thinking the painters will fix it........and then the painters say that is was crooked when they got there!
 

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Nice. I have respect for the patience and expertise that took to put up.

I am used to the framers thinking that the drywallers will fix it....and the drywallers thinking the tapers will fix it, and the tapers thinking the painters will fix it........and then the painters say that is was crooked when they got there!


I always love when I'm acting as a sub, and a contractor asks if I'll fix something... yep, you remember the change order cluase of the contract right? :D
 

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Wow.:thumbsup
 

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Cool, I wish I could have done ceilings that were recessed, nothing as crazy as that though.

Nice work.:beer
 

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Between some of your threads WW, Bobaloos remodel, and some others ones I'm thinking of putting up a remodel/new construction section on the board!!

Some of the stuff you guys do is miind blowing!

RD
 

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Very cool.....I love doing stuff like that............I did a library in Beaver Creek, Colorado that took 3 months just for the trim:thumbsup:D
 

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I use to do stuff like that.. but got out of the custom home industry ... went to commercial .. mostly hospitals... but I did 35 coffee bean and tea leaf stores in so cal.... and quite a few reallt nice banks..

I loved doing things like this but now I just do very large scale buildings..

nice work
 

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At this point were lookin at about 80 man hours, it's starting to take shape and the layout points are hitting like clock work:D
 

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Looks great! I can totally appreciate the time that goes in to this type of work. It's fun project for sure!!
 

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Looks fantastic.

Major talent in play here. Keep the pics coming. :cool::cool:




Mandelon your comment about the crooked problem hand off was halarious and oh so spot on. :D:D
 

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Hit the 100 hour mark today and it's starting to take some shape, next week it will get trimmed in and should really come to life. The stain will be really really dark, I am curious to see how it will look when it's finished IMO it could go either way.
 

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not much progress today, but I did get a little material delivered and spread out.
 

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Nice. I have respect for the patience and expertise that took to put up.

I am used to the framers thinking that the drywallers will fix it....and the drywallers thinking the tapers will fix it, and the tapers thinking the painters will fix it........and then the painters say that is was crooked when they got there!

That is very funny.....and very true...
 

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Finished trimming in the coffered ceiling today, 170 man hours:D The initial layout worked perfect and sped up the process a lot more than I expected. I'm going to start a box beam vaulted ceiling tomorrow.
 

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Wow that looks great...........Alot of craftmenship went into that project....:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
 

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Wow, that is craftsmanship....:thumbsup
 

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This the guy that started Price club way back when's house.
 

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Just wondering, are you guys doing all miters or are you coping?
 

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Just wondering, are you guys doing all miters or are you coping?
miters and glue so far, I may cope the base and some of the larger crown if need be.

I decided to pull off site for a few days an fabricate the box beams in the shop, no real progress to see until sometime next week.
 

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We had to dig through a few units of lumber to get the material we needed for the box beam ceiling. got the shop ready for Monday, drank some beers and did some target shooting.:D It was good to blow off a little steam after the past few weeks.:beer
 

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The first photo is the coffered ceiling with a little bit of finish on it (it's not done yet). it's a pretty dark brown, I would have prefered that they went with a rich mohogany color (but there dime my time). The second photo is the cleats (used to nail off the beams) for the box beam ceiling treatment we are installing this week. we spent last week in the shop making up the beams. The last 2 shots are of some scribe work. If you look closely you will see the side of the beam is being trimmed and looks crooked as hell. The reason that it is crooked is because it is following the contours of the ceiling where it will be installed. This technique is used to eliminate the use of scribe moulding and create the effect of a perfect fit.
 

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The first shot in this set is the outside of the beam, if you look closely you will notice that it is actually 2 pieces of wood seamed together. the reason I seemed the beams is because of the width is 13". when dealing with a natural product such as wood it has a tendency to warp and bow, by seeming two pieces together it will insure that none of those things will occur. the ridge beam will span over 30' and needs to appear that it is a a solid chunk of wood, we will be able to create this effect because of the seams. the second shot is the inside of the beam, you can see that we used some pocket hole joinery to hold everything in place should the glued and clamped joints fail. the last shot is of the ridge beam in place, it is actually four separate beams that will look like one after finish.
 

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Nice work. Time to get the fire sprinkler guy out there to trim the drops. Hope he doesn't get to much water on the nice finished ceiling. :swear

<-------30 years in the fire sprinkler trade. :beer
 

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Did you guys use lacquer or a precatalized poly for a top coat? looks like they did a good job. I'd also be intrested to know if they used air or airless.( looks like its airless, but hard to tell from that angle)
 

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Did you guys use lacquer or a precatalized poly for a top coat? looks like they did a good job. I'd also be intrested to know if they used air or airless.( looks like its airless, but hard to tell from that angle)

lacquer w/airless the Painter was high as a kite after blowin that shit, I looked out in the hallway and he was just standing there smiling leaning against the wall. I would have prefered to see a stain glaze with a satin HVLP finish, but my opinion$$$ are not wanted.
 

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I use to work for a guy that would create a fog, then walk into it before he started sparying. Then he would put the resporator on. The guy was nuts, but he was damn good at lacquer. I had to drag his ass off of more then one job site for being to high to walk strait. Learned alot from him, inculding alot of what not to do.


Spraying large flat areas with an airless is a PITA, if you don't hold the gun perfect it will create a ripple in the finish. Which is why I was asking if he was using air. If so I wanted to know what he was using for a compressor, since thats the weak link when you have big jobs like that.
 

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Damn Dylan, just like we were talking about saturday night. AMAZING work! Too bad theres that other stuff that cant be............

:D

Keep the pics coming!
 

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I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread. Thank you. :)
 

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Spraying large flat areas with an airless is a PITA, if you don't hold the gun perfect it will create a ripple in the finish. Which is why I was asking if he was using air. If so I wanted to know what he was using for a compressor, since thats the weak link when you have big jobs like that.

here is a pic of the rig, nothing special for sure but this guy gets after it pretty good.
 

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yep that just a standard gravity feed airless... GD I wish some on would make a small air asseted airless. The ones currently on the market are designed for industrail use. Just not big enough of a market.
 

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yep that just a standard gravity feed airless... GD I wish some on would make a small air asseted airless. The ones currently on the market are designed for industrail use. Just not big enough of a market.

I have a few....and now we are switching to airspray...:p

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yeah but that is not something you can take on the job site.

its one of those things, a stanard airless or a pot with handle 95% of the stuff.... its that last 5 % that you need something else for. Yes, I am one of those guys that when I'm lacquering cabinets, I will use an airless for part and air powered one for uthers. nothing beats an airless for curves and moldings... but they suck ass for large flat areas. As much as I would love too... you can't spray over your head with a cup or gravity feed gun. And a portable presure pot is a pita.
 

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finished the box beam ceiling today:D
 

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Next on the hit list is two doorways from the entry way (round room) they are going to get some stain grade paneling that will wrap all the way around and get cased in on both sides. Here are some before shots.
 

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