Animals I tell ya'

[Stainless]

LOL.

Yea lol

 

[94Nautique]

LOL even harder. Blame the victim again. Lefties are tolerant of other ideas and speech. Right. Lefties are pacifists. Right. Lefties love adherence to the rule of law. Right. Those videos prove this.

 

[Stainless]

LOL even harder. Blame the victim again. Lefties are tolerant of other ideas and speech. Right. Lefties are pacifists. Right. Lefties love adherence to the rule of law. Right. Those videos prove this.

Who's the victim? Trump supporters are the ones crying.

 

[94Nautique]

Ok. Trump supporters go to a Trump rally, and are attacked. Am I missing something?

 

[Stainless]

Ok. Trump supporters go to a Trump rally, and are attacked. Am I missing something?

Yes, why are there protestors at Trump rallies?

 

[94Nautique]

Answered in post #92

 

[Stainless]

Answered in post #92

I responded to that.

 

[94Nautique]

Even more odd that you would ask again.

 

[Hullbilly]

 

[Stainless]

Even more odd that you would ask again.

Because no one will acknowledge the truth of which Trump is the cause of the violent protesting. Pretty simple to understand in my opinion. Trump likes to insult minorities and women, what do you expect is going to come of it?
Doesn't seem very presidential to me.

 

[Gelcoater]

In all the videos I've seen of Protest violence Trump supporters are actively engaged just as the other side is.

Actively engaged in committing violence or actively engaged in defending themselves from violence?
Post up the video of Trump suporters inflicting violence at a Bern rally.

It's been explained 8 ways from Sunday that the only person responsible for violence is the person inflicting it.
Hell,I agreed with a post by 530 on the subject for crying out loud.If,everyone else (who usually don't agree on shit) agree on this matter and you don't see it or understand it,maybe the problem doesn't lie with everyone else.

 

[Old Texan]

It's not the philosophy I disagree with, it's the Republican nominee. I want someone that can accomplish and not divide the country. Ronald Reagan comes to mind and Trump is not that guy.

Find that person and we'll all get behind them......But Trump is what we have at this point in time. Kristol and Romney and others try and find an alternative but they cannot. What they come up with is just another system enabler. The rest of the early R crew were just more of the same that got us into this mess. Trump in the end may not fix it all, but at least we have someone, crude as he is, standing up to the lying bitch and "bernt" out utopian nitwit the D's are going with and calling them out. PC is being killed by DT and It's past time someone has stood up and done just that.

PC has ate the heart and soul out of this nation and beyond. Citizens have become conditioned to except things which in the past they'd have stopped before it began. If one protests too much, the media emphasizes that protest and the hordes of "feel gooders" bring them down by shaming them into guilt, shut them up and run them off. Trump isn't taking the shit, he won't be shamed, he fires back twofold......If you don't like how he reacts, at least try and understand what he's doing. He's kicking PC's ass is what he's doing. That and only that is how we get our nation back. Get our pride back. Get our self respect back.

If Mexicans and Muslims cannot hear him clearly, can't understand he is not condemning the whole of them, just the bad rotten apples in their bunch, that is on them. Listen clearly is the key and that is the issue. Not what he says, but what is heard. Think about it. Don't listen to bits and pieces, hear the whole message. It's that simple.

As far as this riot stuff, take time to research Saul Alinsky

 

[Stainless]

Actively engaged in committing violence or actively engaged in defending themselves from violence?
Post up the video of Trump suporters inflicting violence at a Bern rally.

It's been explained 8 ways from Sunday that the only person responsible for violence is the person inflicting it.
Hell,I agreed with a post by 530 on the subject for crying out loud.If,everyone else (who usually don't agree on shit) agree on this matter and you don't see it or understand it,maybe the problem doesn't lie with everyone else.

I wasn't referring to Bernie or Hillary rallies.
As far as me being the problem I think it's more that I'm a rational person that looks over the entire situation before I form an opinion.

 

[Gelcoater]

I wasn't referring to Bernie or Hillary rallies.
As far as me being the problem I think it's more that I'm a rational person that looks over the entire situation before I form an opinion.

Fair enough.
I refer you back to my post last night,#86.
What are the magic words?What do I have to say or names must I call you that not only makes you want to seek me out to kick my ass,but also want to kick the ass of anyone who supports my view?
Because,that's what I see happening.

You,as you claim are a rational person.I think you're probably right,yet are either failing to grasp a concept here or we aren't explaining it in a way that lets you grasp it.

These pukes engaging in violence,they are not rational people.
The title of this thread is accurate.
Animals.

 

[Stainless]

Find that person and we'll all get behind them......But Trump is what we have at this point in time. Kristol and Romney and others try and find an alternative but they cannot. What they come up with is just another system enabler. The rest of the early R crew were just more of the same that got us into this mess. Trump in the end may not fix it all, but at least we have someone, crude as he is, standing up to the lying bitch and "bernt" out utopian nitwit the D's are going with and calling them out. PC is being killed by DT and It's past time someone has stood up and done just that.

PC has ate the heart and soul out of this nation and beyond. Citizens have become conditioned to except things which in the past they'd have stopped before it began. If one protests too much, the media emphasizes that protest and the hordes of "feel gooders" bring them down by shaming them into guilt, shut them up and run them off. Trump isn't taking the shit, he won't be shamed, he fires back twofold......If you don't like how he reacts, at least try and understand what he's doing. He's kicking PC's ass is what he's doing. That and only that is how we get our nation back. Get our pride back. Get our self respect back.

If Mexicans and Muslims cannot hear him clearly, can't understand he is not condemning the whole of them, just the bad rotten apples in their bunch, that is on them. Listen clearly is the key and that is the issue. Not what he says, but what is heard. Think about it. Don't listen to bits and pieces, hear the whole message. It's that simple.

As far as this riot stuff, take time to research Saul Alinsky

Believe me OT I have looked at Trump as much as any one here and won't back down from the fact he's at the center of this and fanning the flames.
I think Ferguson will look like Woodstock if Trump becomes president and continues to spread hate and Vitriol(had to slip that in). Only difference is it's not going to be just in a town like Ferguson, in other words it's coming to every town if he conducts himself the way he has to date.
Just a little humor...pointing out on camera that "here's my little African American" in the crowd was Trump being politically correct?

 

[Stainless]

Fair enough.
I refer you back to my post last night,#86.
What are the magic words?What do I have to say or names must I call you that not only makes you want to seek me out to kick my ass,but also want to kick the ass of anyone who supports my view?
Because,that's what I see happening.

You,as you claim are a rational person.I think you're probably right,yet are either failing to grasp a concept here or we aren't explaining it in a way that lets you grasp it.

These pukes engaging in violence,they are not rational people.
The title of this thread is accurate.
Animals.

You can't polish a turd(Trump).

 

[Old Texan]

The only reason I posted in this thread is the majority of you are suggesting Trump is not responsible for these protests, not true. In fact he started down a path of insulting women also and quickly realized that was a stupid idea.
Cruz talked about immigration and didn't have these problems. Why is that?
As I was arguing with all of you last night Trump came on the news and said to someone in the rally "here's my little African American". Why did he single out one person in the crowd and refer to them that way?
Lastly I wouldn't even start to defend Obama's race relations and I mentioned earlier in this thread, if you think it's bad now, just wait if Trump becomes President.

Saw the same vid, had the same thought, then analyzed it as Trump making a joke and I'd wager the black person heard it as a sarcastic joke back at the detractors that claim "all" blacks hate the guy.

Trump is not politically correct. He speaks without censoring for PC. He is real world, not a political parrot. His candor is both and asset and something that harms his message. But damn it, he's speaking his mind without buffers. Something we are not familiar with hearing in a long long time......I have an advantage to better understand Trump as I live in a state founded by and fought for by like speaking heroes named Houston and Crockett. Those men said what they felt and that is what the nation lacks now a days, no matter how crude or sarcastic it sounds.

 

[Gelcoater]

You can't polish a turd(Trump).

What if the turd is formed of stainless steel?
Sorry man,I'm out.
Things to do today that might produce results.
It's apparent at this point you're just cruising for arguement.
Have a great day.

All The Best.

 

[Stainless]

What if the turd is formed of stainless steel?
Sorry man,I'm out.
Things to do today that might produce results.
It's apparent at this point you're just cruising for arguement.
Have a great day.

All The Best.

Nope, just pointing out the obvious.

 

[500bbc]

Ok, are we acknowledging the behavior Trump promoted early on?
I repeat, no other candidate now or in my memory has experienced this degree of protest, what's the nucleus?

PS, I disagree that the press would not show protests of any candidate.

It's organized.

 

[530RL]

It's organized.

So what you are saying is that the liberals have better organizational skills than Trump

 

[500bbc]

There is no excuse for the violence.

The only person responsible for violence are the ones undertaking violence. The blood is solely on the hands of those that engage in the violence. That is part of personal responsibility.

If you don't like Trump's policies, don't vote for him. Pretty simple.

What is most interesting to me is the contradiction that the vast majority of regular posters in this section consistently criticize Obama for being a great divider. Yet then they support Trump who by any fair measure is equally divisive.

If he was smarter, or more polished, Trump could deliver the same message in a manner more consistent with being the leader of the free world and probably run away with the election.

In any event, George is right. The one thing that both Obama and Trump have done is to divide America for at least a decade. It took Obama years, it took Trump months. Trump does work fast.

Not true, they are being manipulated. In fact they've been manipulated since birth. I watched a video where the protesters were peacefully engaging in "debate" with Trump supporters. Peacefully only because the police were standing nearby. The only thing that came out of the protesters mouth repeatedly was racist and Whites, racist and Whites. It's their mantra.

Trump has divided nothing the division has been there for decades even before the TIC. MSM has pushed it for decades, the Talking Turd made it much, much worse. None of this is by accident.

 

[500bbc]

So what you are saying is that the liberals have better organizational skills than Trump

They've been at it for decades from a multitude of angles and avenues.

None of this is by accident. The left has put known terrorists in positions of power in Universities across the country, pay attention.

 

[530RL]

They've been at it for decades from a multitude of angles and avenues.

None of this is by accident. The left has put known terrorists in positions of power in Universities across the country, pay attention.

[video=youtube;O3ZOKDmorj0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0[/video]

 

[Chili Palmer]

If I remember correctly, wasn't there an ad where Bernie's supporters were paying people to protest at Trump rallies?

Other than Trump's "My little African American friend" comment, what has he done to anger then black community? He's not against Mexicans, just illegal ones. There's so many here caused by the last 28 years of a lax immigration program - nobody was enforcing the laws that have been on the books for years and the democrats have been cowtowing to the pro amnesty groups grasping for the Latino vote. Look what has happened, the liberals let them in and get settled now they have to pick up and go home. There are rules that need to be followed - Trump just wants those rules enforced. Nothing that other countries don't do.

 

[Singleton]

Yes, why are there protestors at Trump rallies?

Protestors are at all rallies. If I follow your logic, if I don't like what someone is saying I can assault them and it is not my fault but the person who I disagreed with.
If that is your logic you are part of the problem.

Finally got to Havasu at 230am and in process of getting the boat from Jesse. So you all have fun today, I am going boating.

 

[Stainless]

Protestors are at all rallies. If I follow your logic, if I don't like what someone is saying I can assault them and it is not my fault but the person who I disagreed with.
If that is your logic you are part of the problem.

Finally got to Havasu at 230am and in process of getting the boat from Jesse. So you all have fun today, I am going boating.

No, what I am saying is Trump encourages violence with his rhetoric. The other candidates are not.
Trump IS the problem!

 

[530RL]

He's not against Mexicans, just illegal ones.

And legal ones that are judges, born in Indiana......

You will hear from Trump something different than I hear, but I still find this interview absolutely astonishing in 2016.

http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2016/06/03/donald-trump-doubles-down-on-mexican-judge-in-interview-with-jake-tapper-video-transcript/

 

[Chili Palmer]

And legal ones that are judges, born in Indiana......

You will hear from Trump something different than I hear, but I still find this interview absolutely astonishing in 2016.

http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2016/06/03/donald-trump-doubles-down-on-mexican-judge-in-interview-with-jake-tapper-video-transcript/

I'm not going to argue that one with you - it's a shithead move on Trump's part.

 

[500bbc]

Trump, the divider, at it again.




Michelle Obama: Every Day, ?I Wake Up in a House That Was Built by Slaves?


Twitter/@CityCollegeNY

by Jerome Hudson4 Jun 20161,718
First Lady Michelle Obama touted the diversity of the 2016 graduating class of City College in New York by comparing it to her own life and experiences.
?It?s the story that I witness every single day, when I wake up in a house that was built by slaves,? Obama told the 3,000 graduates and their families Friday, adding




Good job Tards!:finger

 

[500bbc]

No, what I am saying is Trump encourages violence with his rhetoric. The other candidates are not.
Trump IS the problem!

So Stainless, when a woman in a very short low cut dress is raped it's her fault correct?


She did bring it on herself.

 

[500bbc]

This is who and what you Tards agree with...




Sportscaster Paul Cicala Blames Female Trump Supporters? Dress for Abuse She Received; Media Ignores

Paul-Cicala
KVOA

by Dan Riehl3 Jun 20168,151


Tuscon sportscaster Paul Cicala deleted his Twitter account after receiving blowback on social media on Thursday night for his tweets suggesting that a supporter of Republican presumptive nominee Donald Trump who was assaulted by protesters provoked the attack by pointing ?to her Trump shirt.?




That deserves an ass kicking in anyone's book, she pointed to her shirt.

 

[530RL]

Protestors are at all rallies. If I follow your logic, if I don't like what someone is saying I can assault them and it is not my fault but the person who I disagreed with.
If that is your logic you are part of the problem.

Finally got to Havasu at 230am and in process of getting the boat from Jesse. So you all have fun today, I am going boating.

No, what I am saying is Trump encourages violence with his rhetoric. The other candidates are not.
Trump IS the problem!

I am not hearing from Stainless that Trump is "responsible" or "liable" for the violence but that Trump "encourages" the violence.

From my view of personal responsibility, cigarette ads are not responsible for making people smoke, are not responsible if someone gets cancer from smoking, but they certainly encouraged people to engage in the behavior, smoking, that caused the cancer.

One can come to the conclusion that only a protestor is responsible for the violence, and logically hold the belief that such actions were encouraged. Does not excuse the behavior nor does it shift responsibility or blame, but they are not inconsistent arguments.

 

[500bbc]

I am not hearing from Stainless that Trump is "responsible" or "liable" for the violence but that Trump "encourages" the violence.

From my view of personal responsibility, cigarette ads are not responsible for making people smoke, are not responsible if someone gets cancer from smoking, but they certainly encouraged people to engage in the behavior, smoking, that caused the cancer.

One can come to the conclusion that only a protestor is responsible for the violence, and logically hold the belief that such actions were encouraged. Does not excuse the behavior nor does it shift responsibility or blame, but they are not inconsistent arguments.

But she pointed to her shirt. That surely makes Trump responsible.

 

[Stainless]

So Stainless, when a woman in a very short low cut dress is raped it's her fault correct?


She did bring it on herself.

No, but would you dress that way and venture into a situation that would get you raped?

 

[Bobby V]

But she pointed to her shirt. That surely makes Trump responsible.

She looked like she liked the sticky egg on here face kinda like she was used to it. Is she a porn star. :skull

 

[500bbc]

No, but would you dress that way and venture into a situation that would get you raped?

That's an appalling statement.

You mean out in public like my friend years ago?

Stunningly gorgeous snatched from a parking structure and brutally gang raped, nearly murdered.
Claims were she was dressed provocatively. By your logic, she deserved it.

 

[500bbc]

She looked like she liked the sticky egg on here face kinda like she was used to it. Is she a porn star. :skull

Yeah that's it! She deserved it in more ways than one.

If you were there you'd watch and just laugh and laugh wouldn't you?

 

[Stainless]

That's an appalling statement.

You mean out in public like my friend years ago?

Stunningly gorgeous snatched from a parking structure and brutally gang raped, nearly murdered.
Claims were she was dressed provocatively. By your logic, she deserved it.

I said no it's not her fault.

 

[Old Texan]

If I remember correctly, wasn't there an ad where Bernie's supporters were paying people to protest at Trump rallies?

Other than Trump's "My little African American friend" comment, what has he done to anger then black community? He's not against Mexicans, just illegal ones. There's so many here caused by the last 28 years of a lax immigration program - nobody was enforcing the laws that have been on the books for years and the democrats have been cowtowing to the pro amnesty groups grasping for the Latino vote. Look what has happened, the liberals let them in and get settled now they have to pick up and go home. There are rules that need to be followed - Trump just wants those rules enforced. Nothing that other countries don't do.

And there we have it, the basic definition of what POLITICAL CORRECTNESS in the United States has accomplished. This has been the plan of those who have brought this plague upon us!!!!!!!!!

Trump has begun the purge of PC. Elect him and allow him to continue!!!!!!

 

[500bbc]

I said no it's not her fault.

"would you dress that way"

No, you did not.


No different than someone attending a Trump rally, creating zero problems and having a semi organized mob assault you when you leave.

They didn't "put themselves" in any situation.

Those rioters are being led and their leaders work by the words of Gruber.
Watch how this is being manipulated in the media, you amongst those being led. Which shocks me actually.

 

[Bobby V]

Yeah that's it! She deserved it in more ways than one.

If you were there you'd watch and just laugh and laugh wouldn't you?

Why would I be at a Trump rally. I went to a Tea Party Rally here in Yorba Linda years ago when they were popular just to see what they were talking about. Canes and walkers were flying. It was chaos.

 

[Stainless]

"would you dress that way"

No, you did not.


No different than someone attending a Trump rally, creating zero problems and having a semi organized mob assault you when you leave.

They didn't "put themselves" in any situation.

Those rioters are being led and their leaders work by the words of Gruber.
Watch how this is being manipulated in the media, you amongst those being led. Which shocks me actually.

You asked a trite question and I responded similarly. First word of my response was "No".

 

[94Nautique]

Because no one will acknowledge the truth of which Trump is the cause of the violent protesting. Pretty simple to understand in my opinion. Trump likes to insult minorities and women, what do you expect is going to come of it?
Doesn't seem very presidential to me.

The reason no one will acknowledge your "truth" is because it's not truth. It's your worldview influencing your perception. That has nothing to do with truth.

 

[Stainless]

The reason no one will acknowledge your "truth" is because it's not truth. It's your worldview influencing your perception. That has nothing to do with truth.

You're right, I should have used the word fact instead of truth.

 

[94Nautique]

You're right, I should have used the word fact instead of truth.

Fact? Lost cause. Carry on in fantasy land. [emoji3]

 

[Stainless]

Fact? Lost cause. Carry on in fantasy land. [emoji3]

Yep, fact. I haven't seen any from you.

 

[94Nautique]

Fact: Immigration crazies attack Trump supporters. Holding Mexico flags. Fact: you are ok with them attacking people because you think trump is somehow a racist.

 

[Stainless]

Fact: Immigration crazies attack Trump supporters. Holding Mexico flags. Fact: you are ok with them attacking people because you think trump is somehow a racist.

Fact 1, there have been no violent protests at any other candidates rallies. Protests, but not violent.
Fact 2, Trump is a bigot, no argument about it!
Fact 3, ....

 

[94Nautique]

[emoji23] LOL, please fact check, that one "fact" you think you have. LOL.
Later!