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Restaurant closed for the fires, but re opened and cooked the retirement dinner for the wife at work, delivered it and sent flowers too.
She's loved by all, and what an amazing gesture.
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I work in La Cañada and know multiple people that live in Altadena. Displaced but none lost their houses except for one unaccounted for.
 

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I work in La Cañada and know multiple people that live in Altadena. Displaced but none lost their houses except for one unaccounted for.
Apparently if you call 211 they will assist with placement for the week at least.
 

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My Dads house 😪😪 I grew up here, he has lived here for 70 years. He was focus on getting his disabled neighbor out and to the shelter. Saved nothing from his house. 93 years old and has the clothes on his back. His garage is the only standing structure standing for blocks.

Everything in Altadena that I know and grew up with is gone.
Heartbreaking.

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He was focus on getting his disabled neighbor out and to the shelter. Saved nothing from his house.
Man, so much heartbreak in these tragedies. Given the destruction, it sounds like he saved someones life and is a hero. I hope he is able to find solace and peace through reflection on his selfless actions.
 

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My Dads house 😪😪 I grew up here, he has lived here for 70 years. He was focus on getting his disabled neighbor out and to the shelter. Saved nothing from his house. 93 years old and has the clothes on his back. His garage is the only standing structure standing for blocks.

Everything in Altadena that I know and grew up with is gone.
Heartbreaking.

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Heartbreaking but be proud of your pops for putting someone's needs before his by helping a disabled neighbor. I think I speak for all of us, We're proud of him👍👍
 

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Reading those makes me wanna own a fire hose...I got hydrants out front 😎

I have the below set up on a cart. Have enough hose to shoot all my acreage and both neighbors. Doesn't pull a lot of water but super pressurizes it for long and wide coverage. Local FD has permission to break in if im not home and get it if they need it


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So devastating seeing so much loss. To those that are directly affected my heart goes out to you. Not the time to start playing the blame game here on RDP, let's wait until the threat is behind us.
 

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My Dads house 😪😪 I grew up here, he has lived here for 70 years. He was focus on getting his disabled neighbor out and to the shelter. Saved nothing from his house. 93 years old and has the clothes on his back. His garage is the only standing structure standing for blocks.

Everything in Altadena that I know and grew up with is gone.
Heartbreaking.

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Your Dad is a legend for that. Well done sir
 

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I have the below set up on a cart. Have enough hose to shoot all my acreage and both neighbors. Doesn't pull a lot of water but super pressurizes it for long and wide coverage. Local FD has permission to break in if im not home and get it if they need it


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That a must have. A water truck and a pump . A pool and a gas powered pump will save alot in this scenario as it has in every fire.
 

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I have the below set up on a cart. Have enough hose to shoot all my acreage and both neighbors. Doesn't pull a lot of water but super pressurizes it for long and wide coverage. Local FD has permission to break in if im not home and get it if they need it


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Looks like something that could actually help a lot. What is the distance/water spray reach you get out of your setup.
 

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My brother -in-laws MIL lives in Pasadena. She is a dementia patient. His daughter is her live in caregiver. She and a friend are college kids, both live there and take care of the grandma.
They went out to position their cars to evacuate the other day and found both of the vehicles under a huge tree, destroyed.
He was able to get into the neighborhood and get them out, the status of the home, which is a very nice classic older Pasadena place is unknown.
 

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I'm sorry if anyone has lost a house and has to go through the claims process. I hate to sound like an ambulance chaser, but....

My suggestion is to get your claim filed now and your original replacement estimate in ASAP. (Before the backlog). There are coverages and limits for ( DWL) i.e. The house itself. Other Structures (fence, pool, sidewalks, driveway, detached garage etc), Personal Property ( cloths , furniture, basically, anything you take when you move). There is also Loss of Use (paying for a rental while repairs take place). You may not get the full limit of the DWL originally, but you can go back for a supplement due to inflation, missed line items etc later. Get the Lion's Share now!

The most important part of this post******. Know what your limits are for each and every Main Coverage and any Additional Cooverages that are available ( This is super important: There is likely extra money available for debris removal, code upgrade and the house limit itself ( 25-50%) are on most policies. The form with all the limit amounts is called "The Declaration Sheet" This is critical. Get your Dec Sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Know the limits before the estimate happens.. The Carrier will send it by mail when you file a claim. Don't throw away this "junk mail".. This is the primary bit of information that a public adjuster is trying to obtain.

Gather photos to document what was in the house for who ever is writing the estimate. Cell phones are great for this: x mas picture with a kitchen in the background etc. Make a rudimentary sketch for house layout with windows, doors, etc.

Don't worry about the rebuild cost at this point. Just gotta get everything that the policy has. This is what you've paid insurance for your whole life. This is no "fender-bender".

Once you have all the money, then you decide to rebuild or scrape the lot and sell the land or sell the land as is. Remember: insurance does not cover the lot/land. The land is an additional asset for you. To either build back upon or sell.

Public Adjusters are convenient but they can take 15-40% of your settlement. Not necessary if you are willing to work a bit. If you want "hands off", then a PA is not a horrible deal. They will clean the policy limit but they take their cut.. NOTE: Personal Property is the most tedious part of the claim ( inventory lists suck!!)-- Carriers bank on the fact the most people just give up after the T.V, fridge, bed are claimed..). If you can find a PA that handles just the contents, that might be a good deal to avoid mind numbing pain..

I've been in the industry my whole career one way or another. I'm happy to offer advice or coaching if anyone would like. PM me.
 
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About 100’ from the nozzel.
That is Excellent. Would you mind passing on some info in PM? Thanks. G. No worries I found it.
 
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They should be under the jail.. Not in it.
But I'm sure the Good Samaritans were just checking to make sure there was no untended or injured pets that needed help. "Malik and Unique are good boys!"

When I used to work wild fire claims, I saw , " You loot, I shoot" signs with a Swastikas underneath more than once.. Yikes! "I'll just park at the road and honk. You can come and get me whenever it's convenient."
 

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My Dads house 😪😪 I grew up here, he has lived here for 70 years. He was focus on getting his disabled neighbor out and to the shelter. Saved nothing from his house. 93 years old and has the clothes on his back. His garage is the only standing structure standing for blocks.

Everything in Altadena that I know and grew up with is gone.
Heartbreaking.

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It doesn’t make it any easier given your Dad lost his home but, your Dad did the right thing and likely saved someone’s life.

I can only imagine losing everything in this manner, sad.

This world needs more men like your Father.
 

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About 100’ from the nozzel.
I gotta tell you.....where I was there in Tonto Hills the fires really concerned me. Every year they seemed to get closer and closer with the fire planes right over the house. I loved the property but I just feel that its location is a ticking time bomb.
 

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This is what's wrong with our society...catch em in the act waive the right to trial...maximum sentence automatically.

Sad thing is is for everyone they catch there's probably 10 they don't if not more
Nothing will happen to the looters.
They should be under the jail.. Not in it.
The corn rolls say all that needs to be said.
Strap them into cheap orange life vests and drop them off in the middle of Puddingstone or whatever lake the Super Scoopers are drawing from.

50K cash prize for every pilot that plucks one out of the lake and gives them a gentle relocation to the fire line.
 

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California

With firefighters stretched thin, Altadena residents battle to save homes from flames​

Samuel Girma tries to prevent the spread of a fire next door on LaPaz Road in Altadena.

Samuel Girma tries to prevent the spread of a fire next door on LaPaz Road in Altadena.
(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
By James Rainey
, Nathan Solis, Matthew Ormseth, Brittny Mejia and Melissa Gomez
Jan. 8, 2025 Updated 3:30 PM PT
  • The Eaton fire in unincorporated Altadena and nearby Pasadena burned more than 10,000 acres by Wednesday afternoon.
  • Five people were dead of unknown causes, authorities said.
  • The fire destroyed more than 100 structures.
As the winds whipped out of the north, and embers began to rain down, almost everyone had left J.C. Matsuura’s neighborhood in Altadena.
But Matsuura had no intention of following the evacuation order issued as the Eaton fire rapidly spread Tuesday night, engulfing homes and businesses that stood in its path. Even after Matsuura’s wife left, taking the family dogs, the 65-year-old stood his ground.
Malibu, California January 8, 2025-A firefighter battles a house fire as the Palisades Fire burns in Malibu Tuesday. (Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times)
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Armed only with a garden hose and determination, Matsuura kept the embers and flames away from his home of 20 years. It was not until a ghastly dawn that a fire crew from the U.S. Forest Service arrived. By then, homes on two sides of Matsuura’s had caught fire.
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A man hoses down a neighbor's rooftop in Altadena.'s rooftop in Altadena.

Steve Salinas shields himself from intense heat as he hoses down a neighbor’s rooftop on Sinaloa Avenue in Altadena.
(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
With firefighters stretched thin, with three major fires burning in L.A. County as of Wednesday afternoon, residents such as Matsuura decided to stay and wage a battle to save their homes.
“We’re doing the very best we can. But no, we don’t have enough fire personnel in L.A. County between all the departments to handle this,” L.A. County Fire Chief Anthony Marrone said at a Wednesday news conference in downtown L.A.

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The Eaton fire had burned more than 10,000 acres near Altadena and Pasadena by Wednesday afternoon. Five people were dead, and several others were seriously injured, according to a spokesperson from the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department. More than 100 structures have been destroyed, Marrone said.
Fire and law enforcement officials strongly discourage people from staying in their homes, because it can put residents and first responders in grave danger. Marrone said officials have seen “a high number of significant injuries to residents who did not evacuate” from the Palisades fire about 24 miles to the west, which has charred more than 15,000 acres.

Matsuura said he wouldn’t leave, couldn’t leave, because of everything that his modest home on New York Avenue meant. He had built a business there — repairing motorcycles of all kinds, including collectors’ Ducatis and Harley Davidsons.
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“I stayed because this is my home, it’s my business. It’s a lot,” he said. “I didn’t want to lose it. I didn’t want my equipment to be burnt down. So I figured if I stayed long enough, I might be able to save it.”
As other residents fled the unincorporated community of Altadena on Tuesday night, they encountered an apocalyptic scene. Streets congested with evacuees. Windshields covered in ash. Downed trees. Lawns and homes catching fire around them.
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Among the casualties? The Altadena Community Church. The local post office. An untold number of homes.
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Carter Johns was in his bedroom on Roosevelt Avenue when he heard sirens about 7:15 pm. The 17-year-old looked outside and saw the mountainside north of his family’s Altadena home was a sheet of flame.
Embers were sailing down on roofs, Johns recalled. He ran down the street banging on doors.
“People had no idea,” he said.
Los Angeles County firefighters arrive to fight a house fire on Sinaloa Avenue in Altadena.

Los Angeles County firefighters arrive to fight a house fire on Sinaloa Avenue in Altadena.

(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
One frantic neighbor had a baby and no car, he said. Johns’ father took the woman and child with their family to his job site near the Rose Bowl, where they waited out the night.
As the fire spread Tuesday night, Casey Nunes, 28, drove from a band rehearsal back to his rented home in Altadena in an attempt to save some of his belongings. The sky was red and the air choked with smoke.
“It was pretty apocalyptic and cinematic in a weird way,” Nunes said.
While trying to navigate streets, Nunes watched a lawn catch on fire. His truck became engulfed in embers as he sped down roads, dodging fallen tree branches. When he finally reached the house, the fire was just 300 yards or so up the hillside. When Nunes stepped out of his car, he said, it felt as if someone had left a heater on. The howling wind sent ash into his eyes.
He grabbed family photos, his computer and valuable instruments, including guitars, recording equipment and speakers. As he left, he spotted a neighbor who told Nunes he planned to stay.
“I’m not going to let people rob my house,” the neighbor told him.
“That’s crazy,” Nunes said. “What’s there to rob if it burns down?”
Authorities later said two people were arrested for looting in the area of the Eaton fire.
After evacuating Tuesday night, Denise Norden and her husband, Greg, arrived to find several fires burning around their Altadena home before dawn Wednesday.
Altadena, CA, Wednesday, Jan 8, 2025 - Steve Salinas shields from intense heat as he hoses down a neighbors rooftop on Sinaloa Ave. as the Eaton Fire continues to grow. (Robert Gauthier/Los Angeles Times)
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Seeing no firefighters on their street, the couple — along with other residents — grabbed garden hoses, buckets and shovels. They hosed down their roofs and those of their neighbors. They soaked the plants and front yards as embers set off small fires around the neighborhood.
“We realized if we did not make a stand we would lose it all,” Denise Norden said.
Early Wednesday morning, Steve Salinas called his neighbor Jimmy Orlandini to say Orlandini’s front yard was on fire. Orlandini evacuated his family to Rancho Cucamonga but arrived back home in the early morning darkness to find other neighbors dousing homes.
When a home two doors down from Orlandini’s house caught fire, he and another neighbor climbed onto the roof to spray it down.
The heat and smoke rolled into Orlandini’s face. He sprayed his head with water and covered his face with his shirt.
“If the fire department would just get here, they could save it all,” said one woman, who declined to give her name.
About 8:30 a.m. a Los Angeles County fire engine appeared down the street. Exhausted neighbors cheered. One woman sobbed and ran to the corner pointing, crying out, “Please, save our homes.”
Firefighters were able to save the home where Orlandini and Salinas had made their stand. The side of the home was damaged, but it remained upright.
Others were not as fortunate.
On Wednesday morning, Kevin Tyson watched the smoldering wreckage of the medical buildings his family has owned for decades.
Piled outside the Two Palms Nursing Center were soot-stained gurneys and wheelchairs. Gutted and blackened by fire, the nursing home belched smoke as a fire crew doused the last stubborn flames lapping at what remained of the roof.
Next door, an AltaMed medical facility had collapsed on itself, its metal roof twisted in the heat of the flames that swept through Tuesday night.
Tyson, a retired internal medicine doctor, came that night to check on the medical compound that was once his family’s home.
“When my folks first moved to Pasadena in 1972, this is where we moved,” said Tyson, 54. “This is our family story.”
One of the family’s buildings wasn’t touched by flame: Crown City Rehabilitation, where Tyson’s sister still works.
“In the hopscotch of fate, you never know what’s going to survive,” he said. “This is the tragedy of fire.”
On Altadena Drive near Altadena Community Church, a sheriff’s deputy sat in a patrol car to keep drivers away from a downed power line. The church was engulfed in flames, and plumes of black, acrid smoke blanketed the intersection.
Nearby, Ned Fakhoury watched in panic as the church fire threatened his nearby Chevron station. He had been up since 4:30 a.m. helping friends evacuate. But now the gas station, which had been in his family since the 1980s, would probably be damaged.
Across the street, the Bunny Museum was on fire, its 46,000-plus rabbit-related items in grave danger.
“This is devastating,” Fakhoury said. “The whole city just got erased.”
At his home on Wednesday, Matsuura remained focused on his desperate task, dressed all in black with nothing but a black bandanna to filter the noxious air. He had persisted, even as the wind ripped composite tiles from his roof and sent branches, dirt and debris whipping through the air.
His home seemed safe, but Matsuura gestured at flames that still crackled less than 50 yards away.
“That’s what I’m worried about right there,” he said. “It ain’t over yet.”
Steve was one of my best friends growing up. Lost his bike shop next to the hardware store in Altadena. ☹️
 

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Ah Lake…

I had family in san marino. We used to get off the 210 at Lake. Then south. My favorite burger place with beer battered onion rings was on Lake.

Is Wolf Burger still a thing?

(hope this isn’t too insensitive— but damm— Wolf Burger…)
 

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I just got home from LA. It's ugly. Smoky shit show.
2 things...
I pass the Porsche test track on the 405 about 4. The track sprinklers are on and 2 Porsches doing donuts. What the fuck....don't ya think sprinklers on full blast and joy rides could wait a few days?
Then i hit long beach and my cell gets a alert. 'Evacuation warning'
No fire in the area.
All the people in traffic are looking at their cells. You can sense the traffic is getting uneasy.
10 minutes later another text 'disregard warning' lol. How in the hell did someone mess that up!!! Of all the times to cause panic. Ridiculous failure.
 

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Ah Lake…

I had family in san marino. We used to get off the 210 at Lake. Then south. My favorite burger place with beer battered onion rings was on Lake.

Is Wolf Burger still a thing?

(hope this isn’t too insensitive— but damm— Wolf Burger…)
Wolf burger was good, not sure if it’s still there.
 

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I just got home from LA. It's ugly. Smoky shit show.
2 things...
I pass the Porsche test track on the 405 about 4. The track sprinklers are on and 2 Porsches doing donuts. What the fuck....don't ya think sprinklers on full blast and joy rides could wait a few days?
Then i hit long beach and my cell gets a alert. 'Evacuation warning'
No fire in the area.
All the people in traffic are looking at their cells. You can sense the traffic is getting uneasy.
10 minutes later another text 'disregard warning' lol. How in the hell did someone mess that up!!! Of all the times to cause panic. Ridiculous failure.
 

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Some good news...

 
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