Alec Baldwin

[Looking Glass]

Those predicting that he WALKS!! Hit A Home Run. The Judge Dismissed the charges.

 

[4Waters]

It that were me I'd sit in jail for 20 years

 

[havasujeeper]

Typical "them" vs "us" bullshit.

 

[Looking Glass]

What happens to the Poor Gal (Armoror) SP? Who has an 18 18-month prison sentence she is serving?

 

[LHC30]

What happens to the Poor Gal (Armoror) SP? Who has an 18 18-month prison sentence she is serving?

A SMALL follow up piece says she may get a retrial.

 

[Looking Glass]

A SMALL follow up piece says she may get a retrial.

The "FOX" Live Report stated this decision was "With Prejudice" which means no opportunity to ReTry.

 

[timstoy]

So Baldwin and OJ got away with murder!

 

[4Waters]

So Baldwin and OJ got away with murder!

Yes....well I think Alec got away with manslaughter

 

[OLDRAAT]

Hush money.....

 

[Todd Mohr]

We americans do not like to punish our celebs, OJ, Baretta, Alec, all above the law in the USA

 

[Yldboyz]

 

[TonyFanelli]

We americans do not like to punish our celebs, OJ, Baretta, Alec, all above the law in the USA

Don't forget about James T Kirk

 

[HALLETT BOY]

anyone follow the lawsuits involving Kevin Spacey about sexual battery ? He walked also .
Also 1 plaintiff in one of his cases , that won by the way , ended up suicided shortly after .

 

[Heylam]

Bottom line is that the prosecutors screwed up and blew it. Total incompetence.

 

[caribbean20]

Try to set aside the guy’s political views. He was an actor, on a set, with a professional armorer supplying the “prop” gun. My opinion is he was not negligent and the ruling was justified.

I thought the charge was grandstanding from the get go.

 

[WYRD]

Try to set aside the guy’s political views. He was an actor, on a set, with a professional armorer supplying the “prop” gun. My opinion is he was not negligent and the ruling was justified.

I thought the charge was grandstanding from the get go.

When you add in the fact that he was the producer, he was absolutely negligent being that he was the one that set the standard for the safety of that set. He didn't follow his own rules and that led to the death of a coworker. OSHA would eat any one of us contractors alive if something similar happened on a construction site. Fuck him

 

[playdeep]

Told Y'all...Dog&Pony show.
Ultra liberal town trying to appear "fair".
The biggest winner in this sordid affair is the Bonanza Creek ranch just south of Santa fe where the movie was being filmed.
I'm hearing they're gonna it up to tourists on a regular basis...which was not the case in the past.

 

[RiverDave]

Try to set aside the guy’s political views. He was an actor, on a set, with a professional armorer supplying the “prop” gun. My opinion is he was not negligent and the ruling was justified.

I thought the charge was grandstanding from the get go.

He is the one that cut the budget and hired an incompetent armorer..

RD

 

[caribbean20]

When you add in the fact that he was the producer, he was absolutely negligent being that he was the one that set the standard for the safety of that set. He didn't follow his own rules and that led to the death of a coworker. OSHA would eat any one of us contractors alive if something similar happened on a construction site. Fuck him

He is the one that cut the budget and hired an incompetent armorer..

RD

Her father was an Armorer industry veteran and she had been an Armorer on at least one previous film. No doubt she was green, I’ll give you that.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I still think justice prevailed.

 

[WYRD]

Her father was an Armorer industry veteran and she had been an Armorer on at least one previous film. No doubt she was green, I’ll give you that.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I still think justice prevailed.

No doubt she's guilty too. Just unfortunate that a few bucks in your pocket buys you a golden ticket. I stand by my statement, fuck him!

 

[500bbc]

Don't forget about James T Kirk

You mean Berreta?

 

[was thatguy]

We americans do not like to punish our celebs, OJ, Baretta, Alec, all above the law in the USA

it seems we actually love to see them punished, and get mad when they aren’t punished.
Regardless of facts, evidence or presumption of innocence.

 

[TonyFanelli]

You mean Berreta?

William Shatner

 

[was thatguy]

You mean Berreta?

I think they’re talking about Shatner’s wife in the pool?

 

[TonyFanelli]

You mean Berreta?

Beretta was Robert Blake

 

[caribbean20]

The charge was weak from the start. Add to that the prosecution withheld material exculpatory evidence, on which the judge ruled, WITH PREJUDICE.

I don’t think “bucks in the pocket” had anything to do with this ruling. Any competent judge would have ruled the same way.

 

[TonyFanelli]

I think they’re talking about Shatner’s wife in the pool?

Yip

 

[500bbc]

Beretta was Robert Blake

Yes, Shatners wife drowned I thought?

 

[monkeyswrench]

It that were me I'd sit in jail for 20 years

If I were the husband/widower, I may be as well.

Stupidity is never a defence for common folk. Anyone who has weapons knowledge knows to check, clear and re-check...and still treat it as if it were loaded. Most of us upon being told a gun was loaded with blanks, would probably verify before handling in such a manor that could kill. The defense is really nothing more than "he is gun stupid", and didn't understand them.

 

[was thatguy]

The charge was weak from the start. Add to that the prosecution withheld material exculpatory evidence, on which the judge ruled, WITH PREJUDICE.

I don’t think “bucks in the pocket” had anything to do with this ruling. Any competent judge would have ruled the same way.

I agree mostly.
I won’t go so far as to say justice was served, but part of the reason for having subs is compliance and responsibility. She’s in jail. He’s off on a legitimate ruling. How far back do we want to go?


But you gotta remember, the mob runs off of emotion primarily…not objective equal application of reason.
Yesterday the mere suggestion of possible negligence in an accidental death got people banned…today the opposite is true.

 

[caribbean20]

If I were the husband/widower, I may be as well.

Stupidity is never a defence for common folk. Anyone who has weapons knowledge knows to check, clear and re-check...and still treat it as if it were loaded. Most of us upon being told a gun was loaded with blanks, would probably verify before handling in such a manor that could kill. The defense is really nothing more than "he is gun stupid", and didn't understand them.

I am not gun savvy. Does a blank resemble a live round in any way? Obviously there had to be some kind of object in the chamber, blank or live round. If a novice were to look, how would you know? Just asking.

 

[was thatguy]

If I were the husband/widower, I may be as well.

Stupidity is never a defence for common folk. Anyone who has weapons knowledge knows to check, clear and re-check...and still treat it as if it were loaded. Most of us upon being told a gun was loaded with blanks, would probably verify before handling in such a manor that could kill. The defense is really nothing more than "he is gun stupid", and didn't understand them.

That’s why she’s in jail.
He is stupid, so the law requires an expert. That expert failed. A big reason for “expert” consultants is for shifting responsibility…especially in that business I would think?
Now…if there was no consultant on staff he’d be in a big world of hurt. Like Negligent homicide vs manslaughter.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I am not gun savvy. Does a blank resemble a live round in any way? Obviously there had to be some kind of object in the chamber, blank or live round. If a novice were to look, how would you know? Just asking.

Every one I've seen, looked like these. That said, may have other designs?

 

[boatpi]

Prosecution BLEW it, amateurs.

"The late discovery of this evidence during trial has impeded the effective use of evidence in such a way that it has impacted the fundamental fairness of the proceedings," Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer told the court. "If this conduct does not rise to the level of bad faith it certainly comes so near to bad faith to show signs of scorching."

The dismissal was with prejudice, which means the prosecution cannot retry the involuntary manslaughter case against Baldwin. The 66-year-old actor sobbed in the courtroom when the decision was announced, and hugged wife Hilaria Baldwin. He faced up to 18 months in prison if convicted.

 

[SoCalDave]

Didn't her family drop the Civil Lawsuit as well?

 

[was thatguy]

I am not gun savvy. Does a blank resemble a live round in any way? Obviously there had to be some kind of object in the chamber, blank or live round. If a novice were to look, how would you know? Just asking.

A blank is a live round minus projectile.
While the powder charge may vary, it’s the same as a “real” cartridge.
A dummy round has no primer or powder.
I read that an actual bullet was recovered at the scene that was “suspected” of being the fatal projectile.
I don’t know if they dug it out of her or what.
But there is other circumstances.
A day or several days before the death the safety crew quit because of live firing the guns with real bullets for fun.
The presence of real bullets on set is a big deal.
That’s what they should have pursued against him.

 

[was thatguy]

Every one I've seen, looked like these. That said, may have other designs?
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That’s them.
A bullet with no bullet.
Actors have been killed before with blanks and barrel obstructions.
That was the ruling for Brandon Lee as I recall?

 

[caribbean20]

The presence of real bullets on set is a big deal.
That’s what they should have pursued against him.

No doubt it was a shit show on the set, on that we agree. Now whether or not Baldwin knew of such real bullets being on the set, who knows. Very tragic accident. But for the grace of god go I.

 

[was thatguy]

No doubt it was a shit show on the set, on that we agree. Now whether or not Baldwin knew of such real bullets being on the set, who knows. Very tragic accident. But for the grace of god go I.

Shit show deluxe.

 

[Meaney77]

Regardless of the outcome, I think his career is dust.....

 

[TonyFanelli]

Yes, Shatners wife drowned I thought?

I thought I heard somewhere that it was suspicious...sorry, having a Biden moment

 

[caribbean20]

Shit show deluxe.

Likely, but I’m also not film industry savvy. My guess is that many film productions that are financially stressed operate the same way. Not saying it’s an excuse, but I’ll bet it happens the majority of the time.

 

[was thatguy]

Likely, but I’m also not film industry savvy. My guess is that many film productions that are financially stressed operate the same way. Not saying it’s an excuse, but I’ll bet it happens the majority of the time.

Me neither.
I’d bet they cut whatever corner they can get past the unions, but I don’t know.

 

[TonyFanelli]

Likely, but I’m also not film industry savvy. My guess is that many film productions that are financially stressed operate the same way. Not saying it’s an excuse, but I’ll bet it happens the majority of the time.

Brandon Lee caught a fatal bullet too in filming The Crow...I never heard the outcome of any investigations besides that a curse was put on Bruce Lee

 

[Bobby V]

Yes, Shatners wife drowned I thought?

Robert Wagner wife Natalie Woods drowned. ?

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Regardless of the outcome, I think his career is dust.....

That’s the problem. Celebrities behaving badly usually get rewarded. Maybe not immediately, to let the heat die down, but some other rich person somewhere will throw him a bone later.

It’s a fucking club.

 

[77charger]

Money walks in this case. Be curious to see who got some heavy campaign donations.

Any of us on here wed be in prison and if any don’t think so your only fooling yourself.

 

[TonyFanelli]

Robert Wagner wife Natalie Woods drowned. ?

Oh shit, forgot about that one!
What kind of wood doesn't float?


Natalie Wood

 

[77charger]

Robert Wagner wife Natalie Woods drowned. ?

Yup there was talk a few years ago reopening that case too.

 

[500bbc]

Robert Wagner wife Natalie Woods drowned. ?

Shatner's in their pool, Woods off Catalina.