Alec Baldwin

[500bbc]

Oh shit, forgot about that one!
What kind of wood doesn't float?


Natalie Wood

Why didn't she shower the night she died?






She knew she would wash up in the morning...

 

[caribbean20]

Brandon Lee caught a fatal bullet too in filming The Crow...I never heard the outcome of any investigations besides that a curse was put on Bruce Lee

Yup, I don’t recall any charges were ever brought in that case. I don’t think it was a live round in The Crow, but rather a blank that was somehow defective and a projectile of some sort was ejected.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Yup, I don’t recall any charges were ever brought in that case. I don’t think it was a live round in The Crow, but rather a blank that was somehow defective and a projectile of some sort was ejected.

With Lee's, they had made dummy rounds, pulled the powder. They didn't pull the primers though. Someone fired the gun, primer charge pushed the slug into the barrel, but not enough to push through. A scene or so later, someone loaded blanks, but didn't clear the barrel. The blank shot the bullet out. Don't know if any charges were filed, but remember his mom had filed suit. Another bad armorer deal or such.

 

[was thatguy]

Yup, I don’t recall any charges were ever brought in that case. I don’t think it was a live round in The Crow, but rather a blank that was somehow defective and a projectile of some sort was ejected.

Barrel obstruction.
(Piece of previous blank in the barrel was the ruling as I recall)

 

[PlanB]

Shatner's in their pool, Woods off Catalina.

I think Woods was actually in Avalon off of a boat that was on a mooring?

 

[4Waters]

I think Woods was actually in Avalon off of a boat that was on a mooring?

Correct

 

[Willie B]

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Or Robert Blake

… want to pick up a pizza with Neighbor girl across the street from the restaurant where Robert Blake had gone back in to get his gun that he left in the booth supposedly… The restaurant around the corner from where his wife met her demise… Neighbor girl wanted to go in to in a little shop… And look around …So I told the shop owner chick the story about what happened with Robert Blake right across the street from her store and she was in shock. She knew very little about it…. Robert Blakes not lavish home was right around the corner from where we worked out of CBS studio center… Used to drive-by it all the time…
… Worked on a movie with Robert Blake a movie for TV… Sort of seemed like an OK but different guy

 

[Willie B]

Robert Wagner wife Natalie Woods drowned. ?

… Robert Wagner and Natalie wood had a little love nest home down at the end of the block in my very nondescript neighborhood in North Hollywood… They would pull in in the dark on a Friday night and their big black car would be gone before daylight on Monday…
… When Natalie wood died, Robert Wagner sold the home to an Armenian family… They still own it today

 

[oldboatsrule]

I think Woods was actually in Avalon off of a boat that was on a mooring?

The Isthmus is where she drowned. She was found about a mile east in the kelp line.

 

[TPC]

The fix was in.
Cost Baldwin some serious bank.
A life long powder addict, they didn't drug test him the day of the killing.

When the judge threw out him being culpable as the producer in charge, only producer on the set, ignoring crew safety complaints, that was the red flag it'll be dismissed.

 

[Angler]

He is the one that cut the budget and hired an incompetent armorer..

RD

Alec will face a Civil suit. I think he'll be paying some cash.

 

[Ziggy]

Alec will face a Civil suit. I think he'll be paying some cash.

I think early on Halyna's husband accepted a deal.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Oh shit, forgot about that one!
What kind of wood doesn't float?


Natalie Wood

Don't forget the follow up joke to that one.


Why didn't Natalie take a shower that day?

She figured she'd wash up on the beach later that night.

 

[wallnutz]

Don't forget the follow up joke to that one.


Why didn't Natalie take a shower that day?

She figured she'd wash up on the beach later that night.

Vin’s giving her a sponge bath . See post 52

Baldwin should have some responsibility, at least something on his record. Insurance would cover anything, unless he dropped that too…

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Try to set aside the guy’s political views. He was an actor, on a set, with a professional armorer supplying the “prop” gun. My opinion is he was not negligent and the ruling was justified.

I think so too..

 

[4Waters]

Try to set aside the guy’s political views. He was an actor, on a set, with a professional armorer supplying the “prop” gun. My opinion is he was not negligent and the ruling was justified.

I thought the charge was grandstanding from the get go.

If I handed you my unloaded gun and you pulled the trigger and killed someone am I responsible or are you? It's your bullet, you own it unless your last name is Baldwin.

 

[monkeyswrench]

If I handed you my unloaded gun and you pulled the trigger and killed someone am I responsible or are you? It's your bullet, you own it unless your last name is Baldwin.

I think in most cases, shooter and supplier are responsible. This day and age though, the courts go after manufacturers, not those shooting AR's at people. Everything is a bit off camber.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

If I handed you my unloaded gun and you pulled the trigger and killed someone am I responsible or are you? It's your bullet, you own it unless your last name is Baldwin.

But this happened on a movie set where they had a person responsible for the guns and ammo, Baldwin was just an Actor/Producer on the project. It totally falls on the Armorer to do their job, and she totally fucked it up. Baldwin is a knucklehead but ultimately I don't believe it's his fault that the gun was loaded with a live round.

 

[Todd Mohr]

But this happened on a movie set where they had a person responsible for the guns and ammo, Baldwin was just an Actor/Producer on the project. It totally falls on the Armorer to do their job, and she totally fucked it up. Baldwin is a knucklehead but ultimately I don't believe it's his fault that the gun was loaded with a live round.

I agree, but why did he point at someone? I thought an actor was not to aim directly at someone even with blanks. He still shares responsibility for this in my mind.

 

[monkeyswrench]

But this happened on a movie set where they had a person responsible for the guns and ammo, Baldwin was just an Actor/Producer on the project. It totally falls on the Armorer to do their job, and she totally fucked it up. Baldwin is a knucklehead but ultimately I don't believe it's his fault that the gun was loaded with a live round.

He is not at fault legally, and I agree, didn't mean to kill anyone. I see him as being the type to throw up at the sight of blood or trauma. I don't know how movies work. He was listed as a producer. There are probably others as well. Who actually does the hiring/staffing for movies? In construction, general hires a sub, and both have their bonds or such. If a sub's worker gets killed, everyone gets named in the suit. Those are never, or rarely at least, criminal cases. Usually wrongful death stuff.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

I agree, but why did he point at someone? I thought an actor was not to aim directly at someone even with blanks. He still shares responsibility for this in my mind.

Good point, I would also never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger regardless of the round unless I had to, that's just the way I am and I wouldn't trust the Armorer. Why Baldwin aimed and shot the DP is most likely for the shot, the director will want a clean shot of the barrel of the gun, when you're really tight or long on the lens it can be pretty critical that the barrel is pointed straight at the lens, if Baldwin aimed off set it would not have the same effect as shooting it straight on and would look like the gun is slightly turned. Same goes for eye lines, shooting camera is all about getting the best eyes of the talent.

They should have given Baldwin a hard mark to stand on then lock off the camera and roll then the DP, Dolly grip and 1stAC should have stepped aside. That's just me

That whole production sounds like a low budget POS...

 

[Dan Lorenze]

He is not at fault legally, and I agree, didn't mean to kill anyone. I see him as being the type to throw up at the sight of blood or trauma. I don't know how movies work. He was listed as a producer. There are probably others as well. Who actually does the hiring/staffing for movies? In construction, general hires a sub, and both have their bonds or such. If a sub's worker gets killed, everyone gets named in the suit. Those are never, or rarely at least, criminal cases. Usually wrongful death stuff.

I've worked with Alec Baldwin on a few shows, he's actually not a bad guy to work with, was always cool on set. The guy can barely walk, he's pretty jacked up.
Yeah, there are lots of producers. Executive Producers, Line Producers, Associate Producers etc... Hiring the crew is mostly done by Line producers but also below the line people like production people.

 

[LazyLavey]

Was anybody really shocked ? Just didn't think it would get dismissed for these reasons

 

[Eliminator21vdrive]

If I handed you my unloaded gun and you pulled the trigger and killed someone am I responsible or are you? It's your bullet, you own it unless your last name is Baldwin.

The other fact is they are never supposed to point straight at the other person. The camera angle covers that up and he did.

Edit : Didn't read far enough down

 

[playdeep]

Out celebrating with his entourage in Santa

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Still a smug m'f er.