A Day in the Life of.....

[Shlbyntro]

"But the you-tube video shows him doing it in his driveway in 45 minutes, how can it take you 8 hours?!?!"

I never agree to doing shit I have not done before without a thorough exploration and summary of the scope of work. Preferably with specs and details!

I've been burned 1 too many times with " Reddit says it's all plug and play man, totally just drops in!"

I'm made whole regardless with this guy so it's a non issue. But he had to say it! "oh it's quick and easy." I honestly wasn't holding my breath or anything. Like you, I know better. I do have a fancy new coil spring compressor and a shiney new 1 1/8 box wrench from this job now though.

 

[monkeyswrench]

@OCMerrill , never done a marine Cummins, but last year I had one drop an intake seat
Had a miss, but didn't sound bad. Plugged in the scanner and the IAT was at 400...and climbing. "Well shit, that ain't right"
Pulled the valve cover, yep, valve busted. I was lucky, with a Freightliner I could grab the head with a cherry picker. New head, piston and one rod bearing. I've done a head without a hoist, but it required buying lunch for a buddy...12v, 24v or common rails...all hernia makers!

 

[Spitfire]

Off topic. The roar pedal… I have my 2012 f150 and no plans to ever get rid of it 5.0. Worth it?

 

[Shlbyntro]

Off topic. The roar pedal… I have my 2012 f150 and no plans to ever get rid of it 5.0. Worth it?

absofuckinglutely! It made my 2010 5.4L a whole different truck and almost completely fixed the throttle delay and odd shifting behavior at cruise. "Sport #2" I found was closest to a 1:1 pedal ratio on my truck which was all I was looking for.


....and it actually takes less than an hour to install.

 

[Spitfire]

Thank you!

 

[Shlbyntro]

going back in with a fresh oil pump and tq converter. trans filter to be done once I get it off the jack

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

Got a question for ya ole buddy.... the Baja Beast is 36 years old with only 89K miles on odometer [if believable and I do based on interior condition of all original stuff] Anywho, there's a small but noticable oil leak from a "seal" up where Im guessing transmission meets engine roughly in between but set back from front wheels just a foot or so. I keep an oil pan in garage catching what is a very small amount. I maybe drive it 2X/ wk on short errand runs. I'll drop a couple pics and perhaps you can inform me what is involved in re sealing and stopping this leak.... I hear all these old guys leak from this location? Thanks for your expertise ole sport.....

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Got a question for ya ole buddy.... the Baja Beast is 36 years old with only 89K miles on odometer [if believable and I do based on interior condition of all original stuff] Anywho, there's a small but noticable oil leak from a "seal" up where Im guessing transmission meets engine roughly in between but set back from front wheels just a foot or so. I keep an oil pan in garage catching what is a very small amount. I maybe drive it 2X/ wk on short errand runs. I'll drop a couple pics and perhaps you can inform me what is involved in re sealing and stopping this leak.... I hear all these old guys leak from this location? Thanks for your expertise ole sport..... View attachment 1312207

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Likely oil pan (hopefully) or rear main seal. (trans comes out)

 

[Shlbyntro]

valve covers running down the back of the block is another likely culprit. also not sure on what fluid your trans uses but some of those old stickshift beasts still used gear oil in the trans and not transmission fluid. looks very similar to engine oil.

is your engine losing any oil?

 

[monkeyswrench]

Isn't the Baja Beast a 429/460 truck? If so, there's an oil pressure feed, for a sender, behind the intake manifold. If it has an aftermarket oil pressure gauge, a farrel or adapter could be leaking.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

valve covers running down the back of the block is another likely culprit. also not sure on what fluid your trans uses but some of those old stickshift beasts still used gear oil in the trans and not transmission fluid. looks very similar to engine oil.

is your engine losing any oil?

Great question.... funny thing..... even though I see a small leak if I stop somewhere .... just a few drops really.... my dip stick shows very full? I actually bought some Mobil 1 synthetic 10/40 without checking the levels assuming I would be low after that oil pan and little leak when out and about. Ideas??

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

Isn't the Baja Beast a 429/460 truck? If so, there's an oil pressure feed, for a sender, behind the intake manifold. If it has an aftermarket oil pressure gauge, a farrel or adapter could be leaking.

Its a 460 gasser... Maybe @Shlbyntro is onto something knowing the engine oil level is full after a solid 3 months of small leak. That oil drip pan doesn't have a ton of fluid but what it does have looks very much like engine oil... it also seems to have just a little bit of something clear like water in it too.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

Got any idea where I can check tranny fluid from? It sounds like its time for YouTube ha

 

[Shlbyntro]

Got any idea where I can check tranny fluid from? It sounds like its time for YouTube ha

stick shifts don't typically have dip sticks. they have a fill plug and a drain plug in the side of the case and you basically fill it until the fluid starts coming out of the fill hole, kind of like a differential. sometimes you can get a good angle with your eyeball and a flashlight and see inside the fill hole to see if the fluid is there near the top or not.

 

[monkeyswrench]

@HubbaHubbaLife , this will sound weird, but stick your finger in the wet spot and sniff it
Gear oil has a more "pungent" odor. Like Shlby said, looks the same as motor oil. Could be leaking out the front, or from either of the PTO covers on the side...those are pretty common ones.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

stick shifts don't typically have dip sticks. they have a fill plug and a drain plug in the side of the case and you basically fill it until the fluid starts coming out of the fill hole, kind of like a differential. sometimes you can get a good angle with your eyeball and a flashlight and see inside the fill hole to see if the fluid is there near the top or not.

Sounds like I have a little project tomorrow..... should I just fill it with some of the synthetic 10/40 I bought ya think?

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

@HubbaHubbaLife , this will sound weird, but stick your finger in the wet spot and sniff it
Gear oil has a more "pungent" odor. Like Shlby said, looks the same as motor oil. Could be leaking out the front, or from either of the PTO covers on the side...those are pretty common ones.

Will do thanks.... and I also have texted the previous owner.... I bet he knows whats going on since he arranged all the engine work souping it up.

 

[Willie B]

… as far as what you’re dripping on the ground… Take your thumb and your forefinger, and try to get a feel… Gear oil is noticeably thicker than motor oil…
…To check the level of the gear oil in the transmission,… with a crescent wrench or an Allen wrench not sure what the plug in the side of this trans would be… Remove the plug take your little finger stick it in the hole and feel around for some very thick gear oil 90 to 100 and something… If you do not feel anything… Time to put some 90 weight in… you definitely do not want to run the transmission out of gear oil…
… as far as the clear liquid… It is possible that it is antifreeze or water, depending on what is in your radiator… that might be leaking from from a freeze plug or a hose somewhere???…

 

[Willie B]

Sounds like I have a little project tomorrow..... should I just fill it with some of the synthetic 10/40 I bought ya think?

Don’t put 10/40 in the transmission

 

[4Waters]

Sounds like I have a little project tomorrow..... should I just fill it with some of the synthetic 10/40 I bought ya think?

It should be a ZF5 and it's supposed to have ATF

 

[Willie B]

It should be a ZF5 and it's supposed to have ATF

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… guess I should’ve kept my mouth shut…
… I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered Mr Life , saying that first gear was not Synkro???… I don’t know???…

 

[4Waters]

… guess I should’ve kept my mouth shut…

Why? You were right

 

[Willie B]

Why? You were right

… I guess that may mean my semi short-term memory is not completely shot after all???

 

[monkeyswrench]

It should be a ZF5 and it's supposed to have ATF

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As an 87 gasser, I thought it would still have the T-19?

 

[Willie B]

@HubbaHubbaLife , this will sound weird, but stick your finger in the wet spot and sniff it
Gear oil has a more "pungent" odor. Like Shlby said, looks the same as motor oil. Could be leaking out the front, or from either of the PTO covers on the side...those are pretty common ones.

… I had completely forgot about the smell of gear oil… I haven’t smelled any in decades???…

 

[4Waters]

As an 87 gasser, I thought it would still have the T-19?

I thought it was an 89?

 

[Willie B]

I think the future mayor of Rosarita Beach Mexico, has either gone to bed or he’s down the street clubing it???

 

[monkeyswrench]

I thought it was an 89?

Dunno, I did the math from the post up there^. I have no idea

 

[4Waters]

Dunno, I did the math from the post up there^. I have no idea

I didn't, I just went off what I thought I remembered

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

You guys are the best.... and never stop coming in on my shit..... Yes I was out and about and haven't stuck my fingers in yet.... but tomorrows gonna happen. I dig all your input and really want each of you to know I appreciate it. Circling abck after Thursday sniff test.... tomorows Thursday right

PS Party Disclaimer ... this poster member is partying

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

I thought it was an 89?

1987 460 5 speed manual 2WD

 

[Shlbyntro]

You guys are the best.... and never stop coming in on my shit..... Yes I was out and about and haven't stuck my fingers in yet.... but tomorrows gonna happen. I dig all your input and really want each of you to know I appreciate it. Circling abck after Thursday sniff test.... tomorows Thursday right

PS Party Disclaimer ... this poster member is partying

Garty Onn Parth!

 

[4Waters]

1987 460 5 speed manual 2WD

It's a swap so hopefully it's a ZF, no way a T-5 would survive behind a big block

 

[Shlbyntro]

It's a swap so hopefully it's a ZF, no way a T-5 would survive behind a big block

absolutely not. I imagine it probably has the og transmission to the truck in it. Injust new it to be at the threshold for age of full size trucks of where it could be a gear oil or it could be an atf transmission and didn't know which

 

[4Waters]

absolutely not. I imagine it probably has the og transmission to the truck in it. Injust new it to be at the threshold for age of full size trucks of where it could be a gear oil or it could be an atf transmission and didn't know which

If it's a 5spd it should be a ZF so ATF. The 4spd was a Borg Warner I believe

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

It's a swap so hopefully it's a ZF, no way a T-5 would survive behind a big block

No idea what that means unfortunately but I understand our buddies on this thread do.... if theres a way to take a pic in the engine compattment or door jam I'd be happy to.... we did that earlier when I bought it when expert tech guys here asked about the transmission & gearing

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

absolutely not. I imagine it probably has the og transmission to the truck in it. Injust new it to be at the threshold for age of full size trucks of where it could be a gear oil or it could be an atf transmission and didn't know which

Alright What the fuck did you just say .... ja ja ja Whats that thing RDp says when Danimal talks late night? Love it

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

If it's a 5spd it should be a ZF so ATF. The 4spd was a Borg Warner I believe

5 speed

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

You guys got me stirred up..... and we patrtying..... so my as is going down to garage and sniff some oil pan stuff.... report back

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

Did my drunk/ stoned best climbing down to get some pics..... I'm committed fellas... these are vids from both sides..... gotta say The Baja Beast " Fernando" looks pretty fresh down there. I should climb back down one day and look around ,,, so little rust ... what do ya think .... Sorry about vid quality

 

[Shlbyntro]

first video makes it look like engine oil to me. you can see the same consistency travel forward to the engine oil pan.

you can start with an oil change and change the drain plug gasket. or there is generally an inspection plate to where you can gain access to the bottom of the flywheel for inspection where you can usually see where it's leaking from if its up there by the rear main

 

[Willie B]

… Maybe I don’t remember that it was a non-synchro first gear…Maybe what I had remembered is the first gear in the five speed is so low it’s just not practical to use other than for pulling stumps???…Dunno???…

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

… Maybe I don’t remember that it was a non-synchro first gear…Maybe what I had remembered is the first gear in the five speed is so low it’s just not practical to use other than for pulling stumps???…Dunno???…

Oh that 1st gear I never use.... I think they call it a 'Granny Gear" or something. Its got good low torque so starting off in 2nd even on a hill works perfect. I made mistake once and was in 1st pulling onto a tricky paved road from gravel and got on it before finding 2nd and rpms came up over 6K my buddy said.... rear wheels spinning.... he thought we'd blow a rod. That 1st gear is no bueno for simple driving around. Stump puller type thang.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

Previous owner sent me this regarding transmission leak potential.... @Shlbyntro Just a reminder that my engine oil shows very full after having its leaky thing going on since I took possession in August. I would think it'd be showing less than full if that was indeed the source but what do I know.
The potential for leak coming from transmission is something I need to resolve and its over my pay grade so I'm taking Fernando into my local shop next week. I need the Hooker headers tightened a bit anyhow. Lil click click/ tap tap happening.

I may just buy some Degreaser and spray that area then blast it with hose and watch over next day or so while it sits in garage. might get better look of source of leak Im thinking.

1986 Manual transmission fill & drain plugs? - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

Pre- 1987 / Classic Corner - 1986 Manual transmission fill & drain plugs? - Want to change trans fluid but my trans doesn't look like any I see online. Read on here that someone has only 1 plug on their transmission and it's used to drain and fill. Is that what I have here? Looks like #1 is a...

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[mash on it]

Previous owner sent me this regarding transmission leak potential.... @Shlbyntro Just a reminder that my engine oil shows very full after having its leaky thing going on since I took possession in August. I would think it'd be showing less than full if that was indeed the source but what do I know.
The potential for leak coming from transmission is something I need to resolve and its over my pay grade so I'm taking Fernando into my local shop next week. I need the Hooker headers tightened a bit anyhow. Lil click click/ tap tap happening.

I may just buy some Degreaser and spray that area then blast it with hose and watch over next day or so while it sits in garage. might get better look of source of leak Im thinking.

1986 Manual transmission fill & drain plugs? - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

Pre- 1987 / Classic Corner - 1986 Manual transmission fill & drain plugs? - Want to change trans fluid but my trans doesn't look like any I see online. Read on here that someone has only 1 plug on their transmission and it's used to drain and fill. Is that what I have here? Looks like #1 is a...

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The ZF-5 has an integral bell housing, unlike the '86 F-150 that was referenced above.
Mercon V /Dextron VI full synthetic, approx 3.5 quarts (3.2 liters).

Dan'l

Drain plug:

Fill plug, drivers side behind PTO plate:

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

The ZF-5 has an integral bell housing, unlike the '86 F-150 that was referenced above.
Mercon V /Dextron VI full synthetic, approx 3.5 quarts (3.2 liters).

Dan'l

Drain plug: View attachment 1312903

Fill plug, drivers side behind PTO plate: View attachment 1312904

Well I'll be damn... great input right there, thank you very much.

Edit; You do realize I have a 5 speed manual tranny though. I researched your recommended fluid and noticed all of em state for automatic trannys. Not sure if that matters so correct me if needed. Others on thread have mentioned it may use a "Gear Oil"

 

[mash on it]

Well I'll be damn... great input right there, thank you very much.

Edit; You do realize I have a 5 speed manual tranny though. I researched your recommended fluid and noticed all of em state for automatic trannys. Not sure if that matters so correct me if needed. Others on thread have mentioned it may use a "Gear Oil"

Yes I'm aware of the manual transmission, ZF-5.
Your vids show both of the PTO covers, as well as the drain and fill plugs.
See post 520 for specs.
It lists Mercon V ATF, full synthetic.
Fords shop manual says the same.
That's what my ZF-5 has in it too.
Pics are of my trans. Today.

Dan'l

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

Yes I'm aware of the manual transmission, ZF-5.
Your vids show both of the PTO covers, as well as the drain and fill plugs.
See post 520 for specs.
It lists Mercon V ATF, full synthetic.
Fords shop manual says the same.
That's what my ZF-5 has in it too.
Pics are of my trans. Today.

Dan'l

Coolio. Thanks for clarifications.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

It should be a ZF5 and it's supposed to have ATF

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Hey @mash on it ... just checking these specs and noticed my specific build isn't mentioned if that matters. I have the 1987 F250 with a 7.5 gasser engine. Noticed these listed above are diesels .... can't imagine that matters but wanted to run it by the experts.

 

[mash on it]

Hey @mash on it ... just checking these specs and noticed my specific build isn't mentioned if that matters. I have the 1987 F250 with a 7.5 gasser engine. Noticed these listed above are diesels .... can't imagine that matters but wanted to run it by the experts.

Yes, there were 3 types -
460/7.5,
6.9/7.3 idi, and 7.3 PSD
And
351/5.8 bell housing varieties.
1987 thru 1997
2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive.

Dan'l