500r Is Here

[FlyByWire]

1000hp toon. Insane to me. Makes my single 400 feel so insignificant.

 

[PlanB]

treasure hunters like me get excited over this

I lost a complete lower on a 2.5 (280) off of my DCB in front on Copper Canyon in 2000. Sheared the bolts. I am sure it's still down there with the cleaver attached to it.

 

[Tank]

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1000hp toon. Insane to me. Makes my single 400 feel so insignificant.

Run 80 you think?

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

Tommy Gun was doing the stills for that shoot, he just posted them on his Instagram.

We shot both the V10 400R and 500R in Sarasota FL at the end of last year. Then finished up collecting content on the 500R in Havasu right after SCFW. All the boats were running the actual engines at both shoots. Today there were about 15 boats with the new engines running in Charleston. It’s always amazing working with Mercury Racing. To say they are professional is a gross understatement.
I’d also like to point out that AJ and the crew at BCM work on a whole different level than most shops. The work they did to swap 7 outboards practically overnight for the Havasu shoot then turn around and swap them back AGAIN after the shoot was nothing short of impressive. AJ works very hard for the industry relationships he has and it’s awesome he and Taylor were able to come out and spend a couple fun days.

 

[rivermobster]

We shot both the V10 400R and 500R in Sarasota FL at the end of last year. Then finished up collecting content on the 500R in Havasu right after SCFW. All the boats were running the actual engines at both shoots. Today there were about 15 boats with the new engines running in Charleston. It’s always amazing working with Mercury Racing. To say they are professional is a gross understatement.
I’d also like to point out that AJ and the crew at BCM work on a whole different level than most shops. The work they did to swap 7 outboards practically overnight for the Havasu shoot then turn around and swap them back AGAIN after the shoot was nothing short of impressive. AJ works very hard for the industry relationships he has and it’s awesome he and Taylor were able to come out and spend a couple fun days.

All your pics on Instagram are just awesome.

If you people aren't subscribed to Tommy's account, you're seriously missing out!

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[Tommy Gun Images]

All your pics on Instagram are just awesome.

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[Long Way Home]

Inside The Mercury Racing 500R Outboard Engine​

Inside The Mercury Racing 500R Outboard Engine

Mercury Racing rolled out is 500-hp supercharged outboard engine today in Charleston, S.C.

www.speedonthewater.com

 

[Bullhead bully]

Better late than never on the 1 1/2” prop shaft. They should’ve done that 100 hp ago.

 

[stoker2001]

I lost a complete lower on a 2.5 (280) off of my DCB in front on Copper Canyon in 2000. Sheared the bolts. I am sure it's still down there with the cleaver attached to it.

kinda needle-in-a-haystack,but if you punched in a GPS waypoint certain times of year the visibility is decent and pretty shallow around 50 feet.that would be a GEM to find!!

 

[Bullhead bully]

kinda needle-in-a-haystack,but if you punched in a GPS waypoint certain times of year the visibility is decent and pretty shallow around 50 feet.that would be a GEM to find!!

We’ve tried. Buddy and I geared up and dove looking. Top had good vis and 20 bottom was horrible. Had to follow the bubbles up. Couldn’t see my hand. Total vertigo.

 

[stoker2001]

We’ve tried. Buddy and I geared up and dove looking. Top had good vis and 20 bottom was horrible. Had to follow the bubbles up. Couldn’t see my hand. Total vertigo.

wonder if that was from mud stired up or micro vegetation type stuff that changes with water temp?

 

[77charger]

Now at the weight of these outboards vs a strong I/0 is there any advantage anymore especially with the price tag of a 450-500?

68-78k would buy you a nice solid drive and great 800-900 hp big block that can be reliable. From reading it seems the outboards ain’t as solid either with lower unit failures.

For center console boats I can see where multiple are run. But a lake cat twin engine deal there’s room for twin I/os

 

[Markus]

Now at the weight of these outboards vs a strong I/0 is there any advantage anymore especially with the price tag of a 450-500?

68-78k would buy you a nice solid drive and great 800-900 hp big block that can be reliable. From reading it seems the outboards ain’t as solid either with lower unit failures.

For center console boats I can see where multiple are run. But a lake cat twin engine deal there’s room for twin I/os

They are pretty solid.

When they do break, a lower unit can be replaced in an hour and an engine can be replaced in an afternoon.

500R should have the bugs fixed.

 

[RiverDave]

We’ve tried. Buddy and I geared up and dove looking. Top had good vis and 20 bottom was horrible. Had to follow the bubbles up. Couldn’t see my hand. Total vertigo.

Magnet fishing would be an option? Locate and follow the rope (for a lower anyways not a prop)

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Will b interesting to here the performance, acceleration, driving differences with the larger gear case etc. Amazing to believe what's available in outboard power if your wallet is fat enough

 

[Tony DCB Boats]

 

[Tony DCB Boats]

DCB was there and these 500R's are no joke... They pull hard and the acceleration is the big difference. 126 with 5 people at 6600 and a set of 34 pitch props. Mercury is first class and being a partner with them is second to none.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Now at the weight of these outboards vs a strong I/0 is there any advantage anymore especially with the price tag of a 450-500?

68-78k would buy you a nice solid drive and great 800-900 hp big block that can be reliable. From reading it seems the outboards ain’t as solid either with lower unit failures.

For center console boats I can see where multiple are run. But a lake cat twin engine deal there’s room for twin I/os

The thing is it will only take 2 400s with a warranty to outperform that 800-900 HP big block you rolled your own with, that is bolted to a drive you will probably break.

 

[hallett21]

The thing is it will only take 2 400s with a warranty to outperform that 800-900 HP big block you rolled your own on with. I warranty bolted to a drive you will probably break.

I think even twin 500s are lighter or at least equal in weight to a 8-900 big block. Mercury 700 is spec’d at just over 1,500lbs and a 600 is listed as 1250lbs. Mercury requires a transmission on the 700 according to the website.

Moving the center of gravity back also allows the hull to air out more.

 

[FROGMAN524]

I think even twin 500s are lighter or at least equal in weight to a 8-900 big block. Mercury 700 is spec’d at just over 1,500lbs and a 600 is listed as 1250lbs. Mercury requires a transmission on the 700 according to the website.

Moving the center of gravity back also allows the hull to air out more.

It only requires a trans because it's paired to the #6 drive.

 

[77charger]

The thing is it will only take 2 400s with a warranty to outperform that 800-900 HP big block you rolled your own on with, that is bolted to a drive you will probably break.

There’s drives that will work great on 8-9 hundred hp. Now if they go to a 6 or equal that power can be taken up easily. Guess it comes to preference. Eventually warranty runs out too.

 

[ChrisV]

With the 450/500r, can you punch the throttle at stand still? Will the drive handle it? I drove my friends super charged big block with an scx Cateraman and I had to ease into the throttle. Which I hated.

 

[attitude]

With the 450/500r can you punch the throttle at stand still? Will the drive handle it? I drove my friends super charged big block with an scx Cat and I had to ease into the throttle. Which I hated.

You can with a 400r. The prop shaft is what plagues the new outboards, I haven’t heard of any gear failures.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

There’s drives that will work great on 8-9 hundred hp. Now if they go to a 6 or equal that power can be taken up easily. Guess it comes to preference. Eventually warranty runs out too.

That’s gonna depend on the size of the boat how long the drive lives. A dual shaft drive will rob speed.

I have yet to see an instance under 900 HP (now 1000) where the dual outboards we’re not faster than an I/O of similar power. In fact the I/O usually needs another 100-150 HP to hang with the twin OB setup on similar boats. We have seen this again and again in single and dual OB applications.

These 500s are just marginally heavier than the 450s so I’d wager the same will still hold true.

I’m not a fan of outboards necessarily.. I’m a fan of reliability and ease of maintenance. It will cost you a couple hundred bucks of parts and fluids and you can service your 500 HP twin outboards in your garage with basic tools.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

With the 450/500r, can you punch the throttle at stand still? Will the drive handle it? I drove my friends super charged big block with an scx Cateraman and I had to ease into the throttle. Which I hated.

Yep, you have to nurse the drive on the high HP I/O and it will still break eventually.

 

[Tony DCB Boats]

I think even twin 500s are lighter or at least equal in weight to a 8-900 big block. Mercury 700 is spec’d at just over 1,500lbs and a 600 is listed as 1250lbs. Mercury requires a transmission on the 700 according to the website.

Moving the center of gravity back also allows the hull to air out more.

500R is rated at 726 pounds

 

[hallett21]

500R is rated at 726 pounds

The Mercury I/O specs are motor only correct? Any idea what a 600 with B1, steering, exhaust etc weighs? I know it changes from boat to most.

I’m curious to see what happens with 600 outboard sales.

 

[Rayson1971]

Pretty hard to beat that power to weight ratio. 1.4 lbs to 1 hp. Also being a four stroke. Be even closer in ratio if it was a 2 stroke, but were passed that stage.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The Mercury I/O specs are motor only correct? Any idea what a 600 with B1, steering, exhaust etc weighs? I know it changes from boat to most.

I’m curious to see what happens with 600 outboard sales.

I think the 500 and 600 outboard are 2 different customers with 2 different types of boats.

 

[hallett21]

I think the 500 and 600 outboard are 2 different customers with 2 different types of boats.

Agreed but there’s a few center consoles 35-45ft that offer 3 600s or 4-5 450s. 500s with the weight savings get interesting.

 

[FROGMAN524]

If money ain't a thing, nothing beats the sounds a QC4V makes. If money is a thing, OBs are just smarter all around from insurance, maintenance and fuel use.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Agreed but there’s a few center consoles 35-45ft that offer 3 600s or 4-5 450s. 500s with the weight savings get interesting.

I think that choice is more a function of the 2 speed gearcase on the 600. Operating costs and efficiency over all out LAM and speed.

 

[mbrown2]

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So Sano !!!!

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Now at the weight of these outboards vs a strong I/0 is there any advantage anymore especially with the price tag of a 450-500?

68-78k would buy you a nice solid drive and great 800-900 hp big block that can be reliable. From reading it seems the outboards ain’t as solid either with lower unit failures.

For center console boats I can see where multiple are run. But a lake cat twin engine deal there’s room for twin I/os

I think even twin 500s are lighter or at least equal in weight to a 8-900 big block. Mercury 700 is spec’d at just over 1,500lbs and a 600 is listed as 1250lbs. Mercury requires a transmission on the 700 according to the website.

Moving the center of gravity back also allows the hull to air out more.

Center of gravity is as much or more important than the overall weight of the engine.