4 seat speed UTV

[ZSTIV]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYj-yU-pG8k/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

[HCP3]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYj-yU-pG8k/?utm_medium=copy_link

Did he say "figment" on purpose?

 

[Bpracing1127]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYj-yU-pG8k/?utm_medium=copy_link

Take away I am seeing from this.

Robby knows how to hand build a chassis and what quality looks like. Shit most enthusiast can point that out too. Seems to me from reading the comments he jumped in with two feet trying to “mass” produce these with zero knowledge of how to do it or have the right team of people to make this happen. If he doesn’t have a full blown army of people to vet the process this isn’t going to end well.

Second observation is that RG picked a place (Chinese) without doing due diligence on the process and what to really expect. I wouldn’t have picked them personally looking at the other products they build. I would have done it myself but that is big $$$$ with the robots. So I do get it.

He is learning first hand that putting quality control in the suppliers hands doesn’t always work especially when it a subjective topic like welds. Go/no-go is easier to do there.

Third is I’m glad he is addressing this too. Little press releases since the sand show bolt weld lol. I feel like (without knowing) that he needs to really beef up is production, sourcing, supply chain staff to get this moving asap

 

[Boatymcboatface]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

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As a RZR owner that must make you jealous .

 

[riverroyal]

why is he bringing polaris into his instagram? What does that prove on that particular upload? Stay classy

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

I’d be interested in one today. Next year? Who knows what else will be out.

Oooooo!

Now you're a hater too.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

why is he bringing polaris into his instagram? What does that prove on that particular upload? Stay classy

Why not? He’s got nothing to lose by poking them in the chest.

 

[riverroyal]

from the instagram vid putting Speed against Polaris. ok, sure they both are garbage. The welds he shows on the suspension are the easy ones and probabaly done by hand

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[riverroyal]

Why not? He’s got nothing to lose by poking them in the chest.

seriously? He needs to put the cell phone down.

 

[Bpracing1127]

seriously? He needs to put the cell phone down.

hahaha right!! focus on getting product out the door not a PR campaign

 

[riverroyal]

ALL utvs have 'robot acceptable welds' Speed is no different and thats fine. To even mention a competitor is grasping. We all forgot about the welded bolt since it was pre productions.
He really needs to get Carl off the payroll and stop marketing with his cell. Its not giving him a advantage at all.
i know I know, nobody tells robbie what to do, he is the best
Once you start shit talking you competitor and you are the owner you will start to lose people. Its has NO benefit for the company. Or any company

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

@LargeOrangeFont so you have 2 spots? are you selling the other before you get it? or just going to have 2 cars?

2 cars, I will be selling one after I take delivery I think.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

ALL utvs have 'robot acceptable welds' Speed is no different and thats fine. To even mention a competitor is grasping. We all forgot about the welded bolt since it was pre productions.
He really needs to get Carl off the payroll and stop marketing with his cell. Its not giving him a advantage at all.
i know I know, nobody tells robbie what to do, he is the best
Once you start shit talking you competitor and you are the owner you will start to lose people. Its has NO benefit for the company. Or any company

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It is his name on the building and on the checks, he can do what he wants. Both RG and TR have started multiple successful businesses. They can run them and promote them how they please. Controversy is free publicity. Any press is good press.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

from the instagram vid putting Speed against Polaris. ok, sure they both are garbage. The welds he shows on the suspension are the easy ones and probabaly done by hand
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I love how we dismiss anything good as being "done by hand" or "easy" and anything that is not perfect will ruin the company.

Like I said, you guys will be picking fly shit out of pepper when I report I have to tighten a lug nut, or a light bar came loose.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

It is his name on the building and on the checks, he can do what he wants. Both RG and TR have started multiple successful businesses. They can run them and promote them how they please. Controversy is free publicity. Any press is good press.

Ralph Nader might agree but Corvair probably wouldn't.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Ralph Nader might agree but Corvair probably wouldn't.

Luckily its not 1965.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Luckily its not 1965.

With today's unfettered social media, some may think it's worse.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

With today's unfettered social media, some may think it's worse.

Not for Speed it seems?

 

[Riverryder]

seriously? He needs to put the cell phone down.

you have to know the way robby conducts business he talks crap but no one can talk crap about him or his product, he will come after you.
then once it fails he turns and blames everything but him.

2 cars, I will be selling one after I take delivery I think.

are they both the same ones? what numbers you have? jus twondersin that if you hold on to long and bad reports start come from early number cars might lose in the end? just hypothetical. just trying t0 gauge how people are thinking with more then one car.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

There was confusion on my account between the 2 cars accessory orders so they called to clear it up. They are inputting final configs and orders for assembly now. Soon to begin was the guidance I was given.

Well, Robbie just wanted to be sure he was collecting the correct amount of "more money".

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

you have to know the way robby conducts business he talks crap but no one can talk crap about him or his product, he will come after you.
then once it fails he turns and blames everything but him.

are they both the same ones? what numbers you have? jus twondersin that if you hold on to long and bad reports start come from early number cars might lose in the end? just hypothetical. just trying t0 gauge how people are thinking with more then one car.

They are both 4 seaters. I'm not that worried about it, they will be under warranty. If these cars do not catch fire or suffer chronic catastrophic failures, they will be fine and Speed will sell every car they produce. If there is that big of a problem, there will be a recall. That will be a fiasco.

Can Am and Polaris have both set the bar pretty low. It is as if people on here think their Polaris and Can Am UTVs are hand built trophy trucks that also get shot to the moon. These are all mass produced and built to some lowest common denominator standard. As with anything mechanical there will be failures.

If they went through all of this trouble just to go out of business, that is on me. That is the least likely scenario in my mind. They are more likely to get bought out.

Am I going to nut and bolt mine after driving it the 3 miles to my house from the dealer?... yes.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Well, Robbie just wanted to be sure he was collecting the correct amount of "more money".

In Haterville, even $0 is "more money" because they robbed me of time and time is money amirite?

 

[riverroyal]

you have to know the way robby conducts business he talks crap but no one can talk crap about him or his product, he will come after you.
then once it fails he turns and blames everything but him.

are they both the same ones? what numbers you have? jus twondersin that if you hold on to long and bad reports start come from early number cars might lose in the end? just hypothetical. just trying t0 gauge how people are thinking with more then one car.

Im aware. Im surprised by the loyalty to this guys start up. I really considered doing a deposit about 6 months ago. Now if I ever own one it will be in 2 or 3 years. So not my next UTV, the one after that.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

In Haterville, even $0 is "more money" because they robbed me of time and time is money amirite?

Yeah, but what else were we going to be doing?

If there are issues with the Speed cars after delivery, I'd be way less concerned about the early bugs that are inevitable.
If it turns out there are larger mechanical failures post warranty but still early in it's lifespan, those are the one's that will bite the early adopters.

Everything we do every day has a certain amount of gamble involved. Some have a greater tolerance to the gamble than others.
Some are just impatient.

I'm no longer in a hurry at life so I have the luxury of sitting back and seeing it through.
Of course the way SxS's are progressing, they are never really through.

 

[riverroyal]

I love how we dismiss anything good as being "done by hand" or "easy" and anything that is not perfect will ruin the company.

Like I said, you guys will be picking fly shit out of pepper when I report I have to tighten a lug nut, or a light bar came loose.

you missed the point. the insta video shows welds, some were not robot. The robot welds looks the same as the competitors and there's a added picture calling out Polaris.
Why? What was the marketing thought on that?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

you missed the point. the insta video shows welds, some were not robot. The robot welds looks the same as the competitors and there's a added picture calling out Polaris.
Why? What was the marketing thought on that?

Who said those were or were not robot welds?

As far as the video, that is a preproduction car that they claim came from the factory - nearly all production parts, and not hand welded.

If you take issues with that claim, then fine, but where is the proof they are lying?

 

[riverroyal]

Who said those were or were not robot welds?

As far as the video, that is a preproduction car that they claim came from the factory - nearly all production parts, and not hand welded.

If you take issues with that claim, then fine, but where is the proof they are lying?

I take issues with a instagram post (advertising) by the owner and comparing his welds to others. It looks the same! Its a really shitty way to represent your company that is a start up with deposits by 'investors'.
A savvy consumer will see that this can hurt the product name. I dont fully understand the following this guy has. LIke a cult leader.
His dealer network that also carries Polaris and Can Am must really be happy.....

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I take issues with a instagram post (advertising) by the owner and comparing his welds to others. It looks the same! Its a really shitty way to represent your company that is a start up with deposits by 'investors'.
A savvy consumer will see that this can hurt the product name. I dont fully understand the following this guy has. LIke a cult leader.
His dealer network that also carries Polaris and Can Am must really be happy.....

Wait, you are claiming he is showing welded suspension parts that appear to look nice and then you are saying they look the same as the offering from the market leader.

He just proved to you exactly what he needed to prove to those “savvy consumers“. That the Speed start up can provide a product of the same quality at the market leader. Personally I think many of those parts look better, than anything on my Polaris, and I don’t see anything that looks any worse.

As an “investor” I want him to move as many cars as possible by creating as much interest as possible. He’s not going to do that sitting around and saying nothing. Ever see a UFC fight? No one buys the pay per view without hype. You say the hype is gone, it is clearly still there. People keep posting in this thread. People still want to see these things perform when they come out.

As far as a dealer, why would they care? Anything that gets people off their asses and onto the showroom floor to see these cars side by side with the competitors is a good thing.

I think you are taking this way too seriously.

 

[702sandman]

I'm no Polaris hater, but you have to admit, every new RZR they came out with in the last several years was flawed in some not insignificant way out of the gate. They usually address the issues, but still.

The people in here would talk shit if I had to air up a tire on my Speed car.

He will have to have thick skin if and when the cars come out and there’s issues it’s going to happen like you said all cars have issues and I agree with that for sure…I have zero problems with Robbie bringing a new car to the market and I hope for us the consumer he brings a great product to the public as this will only make all the manufacturers up their game. Me and my daughter have even taken rides with Robbie in his previous car, I think The way he’s going about some of his Sales tactics are definitely a little different but I have no skin in his game so I don’t give two shits lol.

 

[riverroyal]

Ive never seen a ufc fight. Not my thing.


I hate to see friends lose money....and i hope im wrong

 

[cold_one]

Wasn't there suppose to be an announcement or some news on 1/10? Did I miss it or was it just the post of the welds?

 

[dirtslinger2]

No, Todd, posted that he would start production meetings starting on the 10th. They did post that there is an update show Thursday.

Wasn't there suppose to be an announcement or some news on 1/10? Did I miss it or was it just the post of the welds?

 

[cold_one]

No, Todd, posted that he would start production meetings starting on the 10th. They did post that there is an update show Thursday.

Thanks, I must have got that confused with an announcement.

 

[1Carl]

Couple good deals on speed UTV Facebook. I would’ve bought more but my wife said Hell No. Lol. But I wanted them.

 

[RiverDave]

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That is a picture of a RZR pro R weld.. first three pics were the speed car the last was the RZR for comparison

 

[Voodoo GT350]

It is his name on the building and on the checks, he can do what he wants. Both RG and TR have started multiple successful businesses. They can run them and promote them how they please. Controversy is free publicity. Any press is good press.

He absolutely can do what he wants. It still doesn't make it right and/or a good business decision....

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

He absolutely can do what he wants. It still doesn't make it right and/or a good business decision....

That remains to be seen I guess.

Had he done what Polaris and Can Am do to debut cars - that is just say nothing, don’t give any dates, and release the car when it is done, there would be far less interest in the car and the brand.

 

[Voodoo GT350]

That remains to be seen I guess.

Had he done what Polaris and Can Am do to debut cars - that is just say nothing, don’t give any dates, and release the car when it is done, there would be far less interest in the car and the brand.

I agree

 

[4Waters]

At least the speed car sounds badass

 

[Santee_Native]

At least the speed car sounds badass

That wasn’t Robby driving. That was when Steve Strobel took the wheel.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

 

[Uncle Dave]

What's domestic and what's not on this car?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What's domestic and what's not on this car?

Unknown at this point. It is assembled here and designed here. I don't know what is coming from where.

 

[ZSTIV]

So tomorrows live show is including Todd.
I hope we will get a good idea of when they will begin production!

 

[RiverDave]

So tomorrows live show is including Todd.
I hope we will get a good idea of when they will begin production!

Depending on the show content, but I believe my RZR is going up for sale tomorrow night!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Depending on the show content, but I believe my RZR is going up for sale tomorrow night!

Mine would be already. Waiting for parts now.

 

[Bpracing1127]

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[That Guy]

This thread is getting stupid.

Getting? I think it started out stupid.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Getting? I think it started out stupid.

Members must love stupid. Aside from the Thong Thursday thread, this threads has the most views in the last 10 pages of the lounge.