$35.5 Million for Freedom Bridge Approved (2nd Havasu Island Bridge)

[hallett21]

And with the Riveria Marina, I am not sure this bridge is even needed anymore.
I get the emergency response concern but IMO those that developed the houses on the island should of paid for a bridge

Agreed this should have been handled 20 years ago. Especially when the city is willing to collect property taxes while not proportionately upgrading the infrastructure.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Well if your family needed Fire
, EMS or other care on the island on one of those 10-15 days?

Minutes do count a lot of the time.

agreed. but i do not see havasu support a 500 million bridge whatsoever.

 

[hallett21]

agreed. but i do not see havasu support a 500 million bridge whatsoever.

Well hold on I thought we were getting a deal at 35 lol.

The entire city was planned using circles rather than a grid lol. Lake Havasu City planning always seems to be reactionary rather than thinking for the future. Rivera & Foothills being the exception.

But 1970s Havasu isn’t even close to todays havasu. I’m sure in its day the bridge was going to “last forever”. But the size of boats, vehicles and volume of people has increased exponentially.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Agreed this should have been handled 20 years ago. Especially when the city is willing to collect property taxes while not proportionately upgrading the infrastructure.

Havasu can’t get infrastructure projects done?? Say it isn’t so!!

The bridge is not for weekenders using the Marina. The island is gonna be full of houses in the near future.. a 3 lane road in and out likely isn’t going to cut it.

They kicked the can down the road this far because it isn’t needed yet.

 

[TCHB]

I cannot see building a second bridge to a man made Island. Talk about Government pork. If it was really that necessary simply close one end of the channel other than tubes to allow the exchange of water. Problem solved.

If the developers and home owners want the bridge let them pay for it.

 

[Spudsbud]

Expansion bridge ! Cables.
Center support made to resemble a cactus !

 

[Spudsbud]

Fire, EMS response time......
There is federal law in place regarding response times to expanding areas.
Alternative option, build another firehouse on the island. More jobs.

 

[was thatguy]

Ive never had an issue after launching at the Marina.

It’s usually gridlocked on every holiday weekend.

The bottleneck is not the bridge.
More arteries to the clog solves nothing.

 

[hallett21]

The bottleneck is not the bridge.
More arteries to the clog solves nothing.

Agreed. But it’s the only spot that could really jam up EMS if they needed to get across. Everywhere else they have center dividers, sidewalks, dirt lots etc.

 

[pronstar]

It sounds like better traffic control on busy weekends would alleviate the need for a new bridge.

 

[Big B Hova]

Imagine all the lost seat cushions.

River whips would need a dedicated Facebook page just for this

 

[stephenkatsea]

Well hold on I thought we were getting a deal at 35 lol.

The entire city was planned using circles rather than a grid lol. Lake Havasu City planning always seems to be reactionary rather than thinking for the future. Rivera & Foothills being the exception.

But 1970s Havasu isn’t even close to todays havasu. I’m sure in its day the bridge was going to “last forever”. But the size of boats, vehicles and volume of people has increased exponentially.

The Foothill Estates area seems to be much in need of a second way to get in and out of there. Is there something already in the works?

 

[hallett21]

The Foothill Estates area seems to be much in need of a second way to get in and out of there. Is there something already in the works?

Not that I am aware of.

 

[JBS]

Fire, EMS response time......
There is federal law in place regarding response times to expanding areas.
Alternative option, build another firehouse on the island. More jobs.

Honestly this would be a much better option

 

[hallett21]

Fire, EMS response time......
There is federal law in place regarding response times to expanding areas.
Alternative option, build another firehouse on the island. More jobs.

I think that would be the most beneficial to the island.

 

[HB2Havasu]

$35 Million for a bridge from Hwy 95 to the Island? Seriously - Thats a joke!!! I think they left a 1 out of the number. It's going to closer to $135 Million when finished. This only benefits homes & businesses on the Island so anything over $35 Million should be paid by them. J/S

 

[Bobby V]

Fire, EMS response time......
There is federal law in place regarding response times to expanding areas.
Alternative option, build another firehouse on the island. More jobs.

That was part of the plan 25 years ago.

 

[Heylam]

I wonder if they’ll need to dam off both ends of the channel and drain it while they construct the footings and columns? If so, Havasu will be a cluster fuck for quite some time during construction

 

[Nordie]

I wonder if they’ll need to dam off both ends of the channel and drain it while they construct the footings and columns? If so, Havasu will be a cluster fuck for quite some time during construction

They would not have to do that...they can drill from a barge, or drive sheet pyles from a barge. The water would probably be really low during those times though.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

They would not have to do that...they can drill from a barge, or drive sheet pyles from a barge. The water would probably be really low during those times though.

Could someone hide behind these pyles and shoot passerby with water cannons?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Nordie]

Could someone hide behind these pyles and shoot passerby with water cannons?

Asking for a friend.

Did you already put a deposit on the new Speed water gun? The bridge will be done and built, so anchor up and fire away!

The answer is yes!

 

[PlanB]

I wonder if they’ll need to dam off both ends of the channel and drain it while they construct the footings and columns? If so, Havasu will be a cluster fuck for quite some time during construction

The part of the channel where this is proposed is narrow. They would probably be able to span the distance without any pilings.

 

[Nordie]

The part of the channel where this is proposed is narrow. They would probably be able to span the distance without any pilings.

Just do a typical box girder bridge, they probably would want to avoid a center pier. This bridge is 230ish feet with no center pier.

 

[Todd Mohr]

Where on the channel is this happening?

 

[spectra3279]

That might cover the bribes and payoffs

 

[PlanB]

Where on the channel is this happening?

Next to Crazy Horse on the island side and next to the Kings View condos on the other side. At least that's where they have talked about in the past.

 

[FreeBird236]

Why when the state approved the spend?

What happens when it goes on for a decades without being completed as everything in Havasu does?

I'm a little late getting back to the party, but the city had no idea the money was going to become available through the state when the idea of second bridge was first talked about.
When you set up a fee or assessment for a future project that money must be used for the intended purpose. Why the fee? that's what real cities do, they plan for getting the money themselves. If the state representative can also help you out, great.
I don't really know what the fee should have been, but probably only a thousand dollars or so when the first $ 200,000 houses were built, now that they're mostly 1-2 million quite a bit more. Developer fees are an everyday occurrence, if a future buyer feels that they don't want to pay them, they can choose to buy elsewhere.

 

[riverroyal]

They island is close to max on city water, sewage and power.
They need a bridge to get more of this. It will be in the design
Without it the island can't go BIG.

 

[Singleton]

They island is close to max on city water, sewage and power.
They need a bridge to get more of this. It will be in the design
Without it the island can't go BIG.

I don’t want the island to go big. I like it how it is.

 

[riverroyal]

I don’t want the island to go big. I like it how it is.

I'm the same. Traffic on the bridge can be tough, but on select times of the year.
IF, if EMS was that big of a problem they could get creative with lane closure devices. Crossing bars, red lights. There's always a way to stop at least one lane

 

[Singleton]

I'm the same. Traffic on the bridge can be tough, but on select times of the year.
IF, if EMS was that big of a problem they could get creative with lane closure devices. Crossing bars, red lights. There's always a way to stop at least one lane

Or build a land and water FD station at site 6 and send all those folks to the other marinas

 

[Looking Glass]

$35 Million for a bridge from Hwy 95 to the Island? Seriously - Thats a joke!!! I think they left a 1 out of the number. It's going to closer to $135 Million when finished. This only benefits homes & businesses on the Island so anything over $35 Million should be paid by them. J/S

Make it a "Toll Bridge"

 

[Ultra912]

$35M won’t get the environmental impact study done, the feasibility study, the endangered grass study, or the assembly of 15 exploratory groups to talk about the project. $100M precon, and $150M to build it.

That's way too high. We (Victorville) just built a 600 foot long bridge across the BNSF RR tracks called The Green Tree Extension. New route from VV to Apple Valley that crosses the Mojave River. 47 million and took 2 years, including attaching 2 large intersections. That included EIR, Desert Tortoise and endangered Joshua Trees.

 

[RIVERBORN]

I’ve been going to havasu for literally all
My life….. 40 years. I can’t ever remember a time we had to sit in a traffic jam across the bridge. Am I just missing something? Maybe a couple minute wait? And yes we always launch at the marina, always used to stay at beachcomber since I was 7/8 yrs old. Stayed at nautical about 315 times. Lol. Never ever thought……, they really need another bridge. Now I get the “locals” consider 4 cars a traffic jam. But what a waste of revenue. As far as I know locals don’t even go over the bridge…..

 

[Bpracing1127]

I’ve been going to havasu for literally all
My life….. 40 years. I can’t ever remember a time we had to sit in a traffic jam across the bridge. Am I just missing something? Maybe a couple minute wait? And yes we always launch at the marina, always used to stay at beachcomber since I was 7/8 yrs old. Stayed at nautical about 315 times. Lol. Never ever thought……, they really need another bridge. Now I get the “locals” consider 4 cars a traffic jam. But what a waste of revenue. As far as I know locals don’t even go over the bridge…..

this

 

[Happy Smitty]

Oh wow this brige is quite the stir, what's next? Toll roads in havasu?

 

[DRYHEAT]

I don’t want the island to go big. I like it how it is.

I’ve never heard that before!

 

[240Hallett]

I’ve never heard that before!

But when you do… It’s always from somebody who already has a place on the island.

 

[DRYHEAT]

But when you do… It’s always from somebody who already has a place on the island.

I am pretty sure that’s the mantra of any resort town that’s ever been conceived. I got mine, now shut it down and limit growth.

I’m surprised no one has brought up the lady who was selling bricks for the second bridge, I think that was in the early or mid 80s, eventually, she packed up and left town I believe, maybe somebody could look up the story.

 

[Not So Fast]

IMHO, from the first house built, there should have been a facility fee on every house and it should have increased by house value and inflation for the second bridge.

Read my post, that was a stipulation back in the day, but the builders didnt like that idea, odd huh >>

 

[Not So Fast]

There happens to be a council member that vehemently opposes a new bridge and I support his thoughts,initials are D L

 

[mjc]

Just widen the existing bridge, they still have some leftover stones. Why didn't London sell us a wider bridge.

 

[schweeng]

no to the bridge.... I heard that this will then be followed by electrical upgrades and sewer additions... ALL to make room for more homes and another huge RV resort that would be located on the old golf course at Nautical....... no new bridge please

 

[Bleakish Times]

Just learned about this...

Lake Havasu City's second bridge: The other design options

During a recent Lake Havasu City Council meeting, engineering company Michael Baker International gave a presentation that included several options for bridge designs and roadway connections. Each proposed bridge would

www.havasunews.com

 

[86403]

I don’t want the island to go big. I like it how it is.

I liked it how it was with a very convenient airport. A short golf cart ride from your Lear 25 to the Islander or Site Six. SoCal to on the water in less than an hour.

I just have a different vision for progress.

 

[Orange Juice]

In the back drop, Indians are buying up land to build a casino on the Island.

 

[Singleton]

I liked it how it was with a very convenient airport. A short golf cart ride from your Lear 25 to the Islander or Site Six.

That was years and years ago

Over drinks last night, I think my wife and I decided our Havasu boating days are limited. If we did not have the kid, we might of called it after this year. Only reason we keep going, is for the kid!

 

[n2otoofast4u]

That was years and years ago

Over drinks last night, I think my wife and I decided our Havasu boating days are limited. If we did not have the kid, we might of called it after this year. Only reason we keep going, is for the kid!

What drives this?

From a guy who’s first trip was 2003 and have maintained some presence every year since, some more than others, I made the final move and will have no house, storage, boat, etc. in Havasu at the end of the month. It feels like I’m giving up my first born, but it’s just “time”. The town/lake don’t check the boxes like they once did. It’s bitter sweet, but I’m conflicted on the whole thing for sure.

 

[Singleton]

What drives this?

From a guy who’s first trip was 2003 and have maintained some presence every year since, some more than others, I made the final move and will have no house, storage, boat, etc. in Havasu at the end of the month. It feels like I’m giving up my first born, but it’s just “time”. The town/lake don’t check the boxes like they once did. It’s bitter sweet, but I’m conflicted on the whole thing for sure.

The heat is the main reason.
April, May, then late Sept through October are the only months we still enjoy it.

 

[DLC]

This is just another city BS deal….

like the new Hotel by the English Village….

coming soon Havasu’s new bridge