2025 Stock Market Thread

[Xring01]

They expect to be profitable for the remainder of the year. I think if we get earnings anywhere near what we just had. We will get small runs each time.

I think we are a sure thing for $120 by end of the year. $150 is realistic.

Half of me wants this run to continue half wants a pull back do I can buy more.

Talking out loud here, on how I analyze this…

Earnings report…
80% growth in some sectors… No one does that…
Costs/Spending/Profits ratio… name one company thats pulled that off one… I cant…
Billions in cash/No Debt/Few employees/Un heard of Customer ROI

With a company like this that is literally breaking all norms/records…
The question really becomes, how to keep Wallstreet expectations to any sort of fair?
If Wall street manages exceptions in a reasonable way, then yes… great things can happen.
If they over estimate what PLTR can do, and PLTR miss’s… then it can drop as fast as it went up…

My crystal ball is shattered… I have no clue how future Qtrly ### stack up… or what Wall Street will expect.
Therefore I do expect some volatility over the coming QTRs….

Long Haul… focus on long haul… Next 3-5 years…
I see ZERO competition. Getting all kinds of Government Contracts, Military Contracts, Utility Contracts, just truly entering commercial sector…
Combined with their financials….

ITs a one of a kind company, and I literally mean it…. So how do you truly put a value on them, when they are still in their infancy stage…???

This company can run for awhile, until competition arises…. Thats the thing I am watching out for. Until competition starts impacting their earnings… To the moon…. LOL

One thing for sure… I am glad I found PLTR when I did… Even happier that I held on to them when I was 40% upside down, which violated my own trading rules.

I know I sound like a fan boy here… seriously show me another company thats done that this company has done… Wow.…

Hopefully they can keep it up.

 

[CLdrinker]

Talking out loud here, on how I analyze this…

Earnings report…
80% growth in some sectors… No one does that…
Costs/Spending/Profits ratio… name one company thats pulled that off one… I cant…
Billions in cash/No Debt/Few employees/Un heard of Customer ROI

With a company like this that is literally breaking all norms/records…
The question really becomes, how to keep Wallstreet expectations to any sort of fair?
If Wall street manages exceptions in a reasonable way, then yes… great things can happen.
If they over estimate what PLTR can do, and PLTR miss’s… then it can drop as fast as it went up…

My crystal ball is shattered… I have no clue how future Qtrly ### stack up… or what Wall Street will expect.
Therefore I do expect some volatility over the coming QTRs….

Long Haul… focus on long haul… Next 3-5 years…
I see ZERO competition. Getting all kinds of Government Contracts, Military Contracts, Utility Contracts, just truly entering commercial sector…
Combined with their financials….

ITs a one of a kind company, and I literally mean it…. So how do you truly put a value on them, when they are still in their infancy stage…???

This company can run for awhile, until competition arises…. Thats the thing I am watching out for. Until competition starts impacting their earnings… To the moon…. LOL

One thing for sure… I am glad I found PLTR when I did… Even happier that I held on to them when I was 40% upside down, which violated my own trading rules.

I know I sound like a fan boy here… seriously show me another company thats done that this company has done… Wow.…

Hopefully they can keep it up.

Sure wish I could go back in time and load the boat at $5 a share.

 

[El Rojo]

Has anyone been watching BBAI?

 

[Xring01]

Sure wish I could go back in time and load the boat at $5 a share.

After I stopped day trading it (which I made $$$ on) and started owning it as long term investments….
When I was down hard minus 40%….
I had $$$ on side… to literally double down on that position…
Which would have dollar cost averaged me $18ish at that point/time… (going from memory).

But I was in the process of moving from Ca - Nv… new job… getting moved and settled… traveling… unknown costs/moving expenses…
Put it off,,,

Hindsight - yeah… I get it… truly I do… If I would have done that… my 4x profit would be a 5x plus… and 2x more shares of PLTR right now. That just hurts saying out loud…

As much as you guys think I know about stocks… I fucked that one up big time… LOL…. Dont listen to a word I type… NOPE…
Learn from some one else…

 

[coolchange]

Has anyone been watching BBAI?

It’s on my list but I stopped paying attention a while ago. Dam nice bump.
What’s your take?

 

[coolchange]

Sure wish I could go back in time and load the boat at $5 a share.

Ya well…. If…..
I could’ve told work to pound sand

 

[CLCookie]

After I stopped day trading it (which I made $$$ on) and started owning it as long term investments….
When I was down hard minus 40%….
I had $$$ on side… to literally double down on that position…
Which would have dollar cost averaged me $18ish at that point/time… (going from memory).

But I was in the process of moving from Ca - Nv… new job… getting moved and settled… traveling… unknown costs/moving expenses…
Put it off,,,

Hindsight - yeah… I get it… truly I do… If I would have done that… my 4x profit would be a 5x plus… and 2x more shares of PLTR right now. That just hurts saying out loud…

As much as you guys think I know about stocks… I fucked that one up big time… LOL…. Dont listen to a word I type… NOPE…
Learn from some one else…

Life gets in the way of day trading, this is the reason I put most money into S&P 500 or 100 now, invest and forget. I am in it for the long haul. I do engage once a week or so and pay attention, but never buy stocks anymore.

 

[Xring01]

Has anyone been watching BBAI?

My real quick take on BBAI
Its a true Small Cap - appears to be just entering the market.
No earnings - they are are not profitable yet.
Trading very close to the 52 week high, and almost 2x higher than analysts forecasts.

Opinion - is a speculative play. Before I would consider it. I would need the answers to:
When will they be profitable?
Who are their key customers?
How does their products stack up to the competition.
Whats the catalyst for to continue trading at 52 week highs, and break new highs, with no profits?
I can keep going…

For those following my advice I gave earlier.. put it in your watch list.. start reading up on it, get the answers to the above before you spend any $$$.

Edited… I looked at the 5 year chart… which brings up alot more concerns…. Look at the highlights
opened at $9 in 2022, dropped to .67cents… had a brief $12 peak, most likely a pump and dump…
The facts its a small cap, means its alot easier to pump and dump…
History could be repeating itself here… I would not invest in it, until I was certain its not a pump and dump.
This is a day traders stock for sure…
Its not a long term buy and hold in my opinion. Because they have been losing money since they opened. Meaning, they have to have more $$$ to prop them up, or go out of business.

 

[gqchris]

Has anyone been watching BBAI?

I threw a 1000$ on it last year at when it was couple bucks a share. Happy with its performance.

 

[El Rojo]

It’s on my list but I stopped paying attention a while ago. Dam nice bump.
What’s your take?

I’m gonna keep my eye on it, everything seems nuts with this AI craze. I went through this in the 2000’s with AAPL when the IPod and IPhone came out, everything tech just kept going up. This reminds me a lot like it. Hell stock tickers are putting AI in their symbols just to get peeps to invest in them. FFIE is changing to FFAI, it’s getting nuts. Don’t want to get left behind though either lol…

 

[Xring01]

BBAI as a Speculative play… fun $$$
yeah.. its may be worth it….

But I stand by my prior post… its not a true long term investment holding…

So, what do I mean by that… If your following my advice outlined in this thread.

Your looking at investing into 4 Stocks in 4 Different Sectors and alot more goes in to that…
But also having a speculative play is fun… and you can learn alot from them… especially in emerging sectors.

Lets say I have $21,000 in my account to invest….
$5000 into 4 different stocks/sectors each…. equaling $20,000
and $1000 left over for the speculative play….

Thats how I operate… my emerging sector spec plays are in the new tech batterys. Buy owning a small amount. I am reading reading reading up on that sector… learning as much as I can… to hopefully find the next big thing, before it becomes the next big thing….

Hopefully that makes sense.

 

[~JM~]

How should someone approach PLTR now?

Buying at or near a new peak doesn't seem wise.

 

[hallett21]

Can we hit 109?

Bnag

 

[farmo83]

How should someone approach PLTR now?

Buying at or near a new peak doesn't seem wise.

For the growth you're paying for it's VERY expensive.

 

[CLdrinker]

Bnag

 

[CLdrinker]

How should someone approach PLTR now?

Buying at or near a new peak doesn't seem wise.

When I was new I learned it not wise to buy anything when it’s running up.

I wanted to buy TEM at $40 I decided to wait for a pull back. Oppps.

Buying stock is gambling only you can research your ass off to give your self a better chance.

My BIL asked me if he should buy PLTR the other day I said Hell no.

 

[boatnam2]

When I was new I learned it not wise to buy anything when it’s running up.

I wanted to buy TEM at $40 I decided to wait for a pull back. Oppps.

Buying stock is gambling only you can research your ass off to give your self a better chance.

My BIL asked me if he should buy PLTR the other day I said Hell no.

I would have said you should have bought it 2 months ago at $40 exact same company right?

 

[CLdrinker]

I would have said you should have bought it 2 months ago at $40 exact same company right?

For once that wasn’t a Typo. I was talking about TEM. I thought they were to expensive just a week or so ago. Now look.

I brought that up because Palantir is crazy expensive but maybe it keeps going. You never know.

 

[coolchange]

I like to look at the Vix and the fear and greed index.
But I’m not even a swing trader

 

[hallett21]

Now 112 lol

 

[Hypnautic]

What do you all think about the re-privatization of FannieMae and FreddieMac.
They have been under Gov conservatorship since 2008 and were expected to re-privatize when they paid back the bail-outs. That happen well over a decade ago.
Well those bail-outs have long been paid--but Obama had a golden goose in FNMA and FHLMC so they were kept under Gov control and profits consumed by the Fed Gov. Trump was about 6 months away from getting them back to private and there is huge speculation it is on his things to do list.

I started buying FNMA stock at $4. this was back in 2017-2018. I thought it was undervalued at the time and would rise to $7-8. I have been buying this stock ever since and have bought shares as low as $0.41. Well with Trump back in office, speculation that he will want to privatize FNMA and FHLMC again--the stock hit $7 today. Its stock price has just shot through the roof.
I am DCA at $0.98 and own just over 5000 shares. Today it closed at $6.85 so Im up ~590%.

What has me wanting to ride this out is if FNMA does go back private--there is speculation stock could be valued between $30-37. The other side of the coin is if they issue stock to the Gov for its capitalization--that would dilute common stock to who knows what.

 

[ramos45]

How much time per day do the options and day trader peeps spend researching?

Probably no more than the average investor would before deciding to buy a stock, but for me (options trading) it's a daily thing. Finding press releases, tidbits on forums, researching contracts, ect. but honestly, lately it's mostly tidbits and trends. Trading has definitely expanded how I view the weekend, I'm happy for Friday leading into the weekend but just as happy Sunday night leading into money making Monday morning.

 

[Xring01]

What do you all think about the re-privatization of FannieMae and FreddieMac.
They have been under Gov conservatorship since 2008 and were expected to re-privatize when they paid back the bail-outs. That happen well over a decade ago.
Well those bail-outs have long been paid--but Obama had a golden goose in FNMA and FHLMC so they were kept under Gov control and profits consumed by the Fed Gov. Trump was about 6 months away from getting them back to private and there is huge speculation it is on his things to do list.

I started buying FNMA stock at $4. this was back in 2017-2018. I thought it was undervalued at the time and would rise to $7-8. I have been buying this stock ever since and have bought shares as low as $0.41. Well with Trump back in office, speculation that he will want to privatize FNMA and FHLMC again--the stock hit $7 today. Its stock price has just shot through the roof.
I am DCA at $0.98 and own just over 5000 shares. Today it closed at $6.85 so Im up ~590%.

What has me wanting to ride this out is if FNMA does go back private--there is speculation stock could be valued between $30-37. The other side of the coin is if they issue stock to the Gov for its capitalization--that would dilute common stock to who knows what.

Thanks for that info.
I will try to get the time to dig into…because it does have a big upside potential.

 

[ramos45]

Has anyone been watching BBAI?

Holy cow! Thanks for the reminder. I was into it this time last year and ended up holding the bag until around Q4 when it woke up again but by then the options were only trading once month. It's back to weekly now and looks like they landed some more contracts with that price movement.

 

[redman]

What do you all think about the re-privatization of FannieMae and FreddieMac.
They have been under Gov conservatorship since 2008 and were expected to re-privatize when they paid back the bail-outs. That happen well over a decade ago.
Well those bail-outs have long been paid--but Obama had a golden goose in FNMA and FHLMC so they were kept under Gov control and profits consumed by the Fed Gov. Trump was about 6 months away from getting them back to private and there is huge speculation it is on his things to do list.

I started buying FNMA stock at $4. this was back in 2017-2018. I thought it was undervalued at the time and would rise to $7-8. I have been buying this stock ever since and have bought shares as low as $0.41. Well with Trump back in office, speculation that he will want to privatize FNMA and FHLMC again--the stock hit $7 today. Its stock price has just shot through the roof.
I am DCA at $0.98 and own just over 5000 shares. Today it closed at $6.85 so Im up ~590%.

What has me wanting to ride this out is if FNMA does go back private--there is speculation stock could be valued between $30-37. The other side of the coin is if they issue stock to the Gov for its capitalization--that would dilute common stock to who knows what.

I bought back in 2016 for about 1.40 and sold at a spike in 2019 but kept a bunch, just sold more and kept more, been good to me but just sat stale for years

 

[CLdrinker]

$114!?! Someone wake me up I must be dreaming.

 

[coolchange]

$114!?! Someone wake me up I must be dreaming.

Easy there Mr Buffett. Don’t go boat shopping

 

[gqchris]

$114!?! Someone wake me up I must be dreaming.

My buddy that turned me on to it two years ago, at like 15$ a share, I keep saying , "Do we sell?". He is like, "NO, it will hit $200, trust me" He has been saying this for years. Im like "WTF does this guy have a crystal ball?

OUt of all my friends in our group, I am the only one who took his advice. The rest are feeling sick right about now!

 

[hallett21]

PLTR still going!

 

[Xring01]

PLTR still going!

NVDA is also doing well

 

[CLdrinker]

I’m happy.

Also I may have got my hand in the cookie jar. Been buying the dip on BRCC as I have bought and sold it for minor gains before.

This may stay a shit sandwich for a while.

Just thought I would share the not so fun side of investing.

 

[coolchange]

SOFI comin back around and PANW steady goes the ship.

 

[ramos45]

take a look at SMCI, they had a good day, week. Earnings tomorrow after close but expected to be good.

 

[12vMan]

PLTR has been consistent beating earnings estimates. A friend bought in last year for around $50. I'm pretty heavy in NVDA (got in 2019), so I hesitated, then kicked myself watching it go up. I saw it dip the middle of last month and got in for ~$66, so I'm pretty happy now. If I was going to buy more, I would wait for the next good dip. Just keep watching it.

 

[CLdrinker]

PLTR has been consistent beating earnings estimates. A friend bought in last year for around $50. I'm pretty heavy in NVDA (got in 2019), so I hesitated, then kicked myself watching it go up. I saw it dip the middle of last month and got in for ~$66, so I'm pretty happy now. If I was going to buy more, I would wait for the next good dip. Just keep watching it.

That $66 was good timing. I bought a couple shares as I didn’t have much cash on hand. I sold some stuff and have money ready for next time. BUY THE DIP!

 

[Orange Juice]

How should someone approach PLTR now?

Buying at or near a new peak doesn't seem wise.

Buy 100 calls

 

[FlyByWire]

Buy 100 calls

Worked for me..

 

[El Rojo]

TSLA seems to be on a downward death spiral…

 

[Xring01]

TSLA seems to be on a downward death spiral…

Well Elon Musk is no longer the darling of green tech, and has fallen out of the graces of the libtards.

 

[CLdrinker]

TSLA seems to be on a downward death spiral…

I love it. Hope it gets down into the 200’s. Then will buy in.

Go listen to the last earnings call.

 

[FlyByWire]

TSLA seems to be on a downward death spiral…

It’s just on sale

 

[~JM~]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/3-new-reasons-to-be-concerned-about-magnificent-7-stocks-200016877.html

 

[CLdrinker]

 

[ChumpChange]

Has anyone been watching BBAI?

I saw spike last week after the government contract was announced so I bought in with a decent chunk which it was then up 25% the next day. I then sold. Good thing. Down 8% today or so.

 

[12vMan]

The problem with selling right away is you lose 30% of your short term capital gains to taxes. So if you got a 25% pop and sold, your realized gains were actually 17.5%. If you took the 8% hit and rode it out, your realized gains would be 17%. Obviously that scenario is based on the stock having a chance of rebounding. If it's a free fall, bail!
The short term capital gains can really hit you hard if you're not careful. Over the last 2 years, a friend has placed s 10% stop loss on a couple of volatile stocks. Well they hit it and ended up costing him around $50k in taxes. I own the same stocks, but I always ride out the dips. The system is really set up for long term, so you need make sure you're comfortable in the saddle before you hit 'buy.'

 

[PaPaG]

After I stopped day trading it (which I made $$$ on) and started owning it as long term investments….
When I was down hard minus 40%….
I had $$$ on side… to literally double down on that position…
Which would have dollar cost averaged me $18ish at that point/time… (going from memory).

But I was in the process of moving from Ca - Nv… new job… getting moved and settled… traveling… unknown costs/moving expenses…
Put it off,,,

Hindsight - yeah… I get it… truly I do… If I would have done that… my 4x profit would be a 5x plus… and 2x more shares of PLTR right now. That just hurts saying out loud…

As much as you guys think I know about stocks… I fucked that one up big time… LOL…. Dont listen to a word I type… NOPE…
Learn from some one else…

We ALL make huge mistakes one time or another, that is how we learn OR AT LEAST that is what I TELL MYSELF lol lol.

 

[coolchange]

We ALL make huge mistakes one time or another, that is how we learn OR AT LEAST that is what I TELL MYSELF lol lol.

There is only winning and learning.