2018 Ram 2500 or GM 2500HD

[Blackmagic94]

My comment is stupid?

No the dealers comment. What was dumb was you caring what a moron at a dealership said

 

[Singleton]

Was your warranty extra? If so how much?

The extended warranty and service plans are extra $$. I had my Ford dealer price match the warranty based on prices I found online. For the service plan, I got that thrown into the deal to make the numbers work out.

 

[Yellowboat]

Value is subjective I suppose.

Yes, it is, but I could not stomach that. Hell, I can stomach it and I. Could write it off.

 

[Cdog]

Damn good stuff.


Good stuff. My longbed holds about 50 Gallons but the short beds do have small tanks. My good friend owns a Ford dealer here in Utah and they offer a lifetime warranty and no extra charge. Lots of people buy from them for that warranty. Older Ford diesels had lots of issues but this 6.7 is badass. It is very very close to being internally balanced. My friends own H&S and do all kinds of mild to crazy stuff to all the brands. Did you happen to watch Breaking Point? They put a 6.7 on the dyno and kept adding fuel and nitrous trying to blow it up. I think they made 12 or so dyno pulls and could not break it.

Thx I try to be objective about it with actual experience. Some guys act like you just smacked their momma when you have something bad to say about their brand. Lol!

I’m gonna wait till the 2020’s and see what happens. A Denali 3500 or f350 platinum is my shopping list. I’ve had such great luck with my 06 I have a hard time not going with another duramax.

Cheers!

 

[JD D05]

Thx I try to be objective about it with actual experience. Some guys act like you just smacked their momma when you have something bad to say about their brand. Lol!

I’m gonna wait till the 2020’s and see what happens. A Denali 3500 or f350 platinum is my shopping list. I’ve had such great luck with my 06 I have a hard time not going with another duramax.

Cheers!

It will be interesting. What many people don't realize is all the truck until this year for the Duramax used the entire same injection systems. Well Dodge still runs an older injector and CP3 for some reason. The newer Bosch stuff is more money so maybe that is why.

Tuning is just about a thing of the past. My buddy was at SEMA and asked a manufacture why they cared so much about end users tuning trucks...His response was we don't care at all about it. The reasoning for the technology is terrorism. They are going to have to do constant never ending coding changes to all vehicles constantly. Without that terrorists can hack into a massive amount of cars and trucks and take over control. I don't know all the fancy exact words but that is happening.

 

[Cdog]

It will be interesting. What many people don't realize is all the truck until this year for the Duramax used the entire same injection systems. Well Dodge still runs an older injector and CP3 for some reason. The newer Bosch stuff is more money so maybe that is why.

Tuning is just about a thing of the past. My buddy was at SEMA and asked a manufacture why they cared so much about end users tuning trucks...His response was we don't care at all about it. The reasoning for the technology is terrorism. They are going to have to do constant never ending coding changes to all vehicles constantly. Without that terrorists can hack into a massive amount of cars and trucks and take over control. I don't know all the fancy exact words but that is happening.

Crazy! Like on fast and furious where all the cars go berserk and crash. Bosch has to make all that money back somehow after diesel gate. I received my $1500 from them after my Audi TDI turn in. LOL!

The ford 6.7 looks promising. The competition amongst manufactures is good for all of us at the consumer end. They make better trucks and we benefit.

 

[Blackmagic94]

If ram does a 8 or 10 speed auto on a high output Cummins. It will be a game changer on the 2020 model

 

[Bigbore500r]

It will be interesting. What many people don't realize is all the truck until this year for the Duramax used the entire same injection systems. Well Dodge still runs an older injector and CP3 for some reason. The newer Bosch stuff is more money so maybe that is why.

Tuning is just about a thing of the past. My buddy was at SEMA and asked a manufacture why they cared so much about end users tuning trucks...His response was we don't care at all about it. The reasoning for the technology is terrorism. They are going to have to do constant never ending coding changes to all vehicles constantly. Without that terrorists can hack into a massive amount of cars and trucks and take over control. I don't know all the fancy exact words but that is happening.

Yep - Ford and Chevy run the dreaded CP4.2 injection pump. Hell...the Ram Ecodiesel that One-A-Day was just complaining about in the thread earlier runs the samp pump, but with only 1 piston (CP 4.1...). He had to have the entire fuel system replaced, most likely due to pump failure and metal contamination. The previous owner of my '13 Duramax (wishiknew) just had it done to the truck last year to the tune of $8k. Plaster Dave just had his new LML duramax in the dealer for the same issue, truck is only a few years old.

Diesels are bitchin but the switch to the CP4 pumps combined with the dry ULSD in the USA is wreaking havoc. Hopefully cummins doesn't swap to that pump next year and they keep the good old CP-3.

 

[DaytonaBabe]

Our GMC 2500HD is my daily driver and is the best, most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Built like a friggen tank. I'm sold, for life. Gonna be looking hard at the new ones coming out in 2020.

 

[Singleton]

Thx I try to be objective about it with actual experience. Some guys act like you just smacked their momma when you have something bad to say about their brand. Lol!

I’m gonna wait till the 2020’s and see what happens. A Denali 3500 or f350 platinum is my shopping list. I’ve had such great luck with my 06 I have a hard time not going with another duramax.

Cheers!

That was my plan, until someone stole my 06 LBZ CC. Could not wait for the 2020 GMC HD’s so I ended up in a fully loaded F350 Lariat Ultimate.

Truck is a beast and my wife keeps asking why did we not upgrade sooner

 

[Cdog]

Here’s a good article on the Lp5. Shows the new injection system and CP4. I have used this stuff on my truck since the low sulfur diesel came out in 06.
https://www.xtremediesel.com/xdp-diesel-power-plus-fuel-additive-xtremedieselcom

http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/engine/1702-a-peek-inside-the-duramax-l5p/

 

[JD D05]

Crazy! Like on fast and furious where all the cars go berserk and crash. Bosch has to make all that money back somehow after diesel gate. I received my $1500 from them after my Audi TDI turn in. LOL!

The ford 6.7 looks promising. The competition amongst manufactures is good for all of us at the consumer end. They make better trucks and we benefit.

Check these out...Keep in mind this was done right after the 6.7 was released...

 

[Cdog]

That was my plan, until someone stole my 06 LBZ CC. Could not wait for the 2020 GMC HD’s so I ended up in a fully loaded F350 Lariat Ultimate.

Truck is a beast and my wife keeps asking why did we not upgrade sooner

They really are beautiful trucks. Congrats!

 

[Singleton]

They really are beautiful trucks. Congrats!

Thanks. Only thing I dislike is the payment. My 2500 was paid off and costing less then 500 a year in maintenance on average. New truck, costs much more monthly now

 

[JD D05]

Our GMC 2500HD is my daily driver and is the best, most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Built like a friggen tank. I'm sold, for life. Gonna be looking hard at the new ones coming out in 2020.

Tanks don't have IFS

 

[JD D05]

Yep - Ford and Chevy run the dreaded CP4.2 injection pump. Hell...the Ram Ecodiesel that One-A-Day was just complaining about in the thread earlier runs the samp pump, but with only 1 piston (CP 4.1...). He had to have the entire fuel system replaced, most likely due to pump failure and metal contamination. The previous owner of my '13 Duramax (wishiknew) just had it done to the truck last year to the tune of $8k. Plaster Dave just had his new LML duramax in the dealer for the same issue, truck is only a few years old.

Diesels are bitchin but the switch to the CP4 pumps combined with the dry ULSD in the USA is wreaking havoc. Hopefully cummins doesn't swap to that pump next year and they keep the good old CP-3.

I actually did not know the CP4 system was less reliable. Just asked my buddy and he said "YES" lol.

 

[Bigbore500r]

I actually did not know the CP4 system was less reliable. Just asked my buddy and he said "YES" lol.

Higher pressures in the pump, but the pressure is generated by spinning the pistons faster and it actually has less displacement so it works harder. Then there is the issue with the material the pistons are made from. For some reason they come apart and puke metal thru the fuel system. Instant death to all things fuel

 

[Cdog]

Check these out...Keep in mind this was done right after the 6.7 was released...

HAHA! 1084hp 1911 torque with stock internals on the Dmax. Sure it blew up but god damn! Give me 500 hp & 1000 lbtq and I’ll never complain.

 

[NicPaus]

Reliable?

Yes. I would buy 1 before the diesel. He has several sold off diesels. The 2500hd I got from GlamisMike has been a solid truck got it with 106k on it put 50k on it doing the job my 07 F450 failed to do. Bought another new just like it and it does great it replaced a F550 v10. triple the mpg and tows better. Both work body trucks are new Duramax if my little 2500s can't handle the load.

I like the Dodge also just would not match the others.

 

[JD D05]

HAHA! 1084hp 1911 torque with stock internals on the Dmax. Sure it blew up but god damn! Give me 500 hp & 1000 lbtq and I’ll never complain.

Pretty awesome right!

 

[Runs2rch]

Just drove a Ram 3500. Really nice. The Aisin feels similar to the Alison shift wise. Never have owned a Dodge. All this talk about 2020 models is making me want to wait.

 

[JD D05]

Just drove a Ram 3500. Really nice. The Aisin feels similar to the Alison shift wise. Never have owned a Dodge. All this talk about 2020 models is making me want to wait.

Meh I should have never sold my 2012....

 

[Cdog]

Just drove a Ram 3500. Really nice. The Aisin feels similar to the Alison shift wise. Never have owned a Dodge. All this talk about 2020 models is making me want to wait.

Its not like they giving them away now in prep for the 2020’s. Even if the 2020’s are 4-5k more I’d rather wait for the update. I probably need to do head gaskets and put some money into my truck after 13 years of hard use so I can get another 2 years out of it. That way it puts me inline for 2021.

 

[Bobby V]

Just drove a Ram 3500. Really nice. The Aisin feels similar to the Alison shift wise. Never have owned a Dodge. All this talk about 2020 models is making me want to wait.

Glad I saw this thread about the 2020 model. That's the year I plan to retire and it would be a nice retirement present to myself.

 

[HavaToon]

Was your warranty extra? If so how much?

$10k for both the extended warranty and prepaid service for 8 year 150k miles. But I get X plan pricing so it would be more for non.


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[Runs2rch]

Its not like they giving them away now in prep for the 2020’s. Even if the 2020’s are 4-5k more I’d rather wait for the update. I probably need to do head gaskets and put some money into my truck after 13 years of hard use so I can get another 2 years out of it. That way it puts me inline for 2021.

10-12k off depending on exact truck/trim.

 

[JD D05]

10-12k off depending on exact truck/trim.

I will sell you my truck

 

[pronstar]

Meh I should have never sold my 2012....

...or my 2007


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[Runs2rch]

I will sell you my truck

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Hmmmmm.

 

[JD D05]

Hmmmmm.

That truck has a lot of work done. The Ford's have a chrome strip on the auto steps...Yep had them taken apart and painted to match lol.

 

[CLdrinker]

I will sell you my truck

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How much how many miles?

 

[Runs2rch]

That truck has a lot of work done. The Ford's have a chrome strip on the auto steps...Yep had them taken apart and painted to match lol.

It is sweet for sure! Are you serious about selling it?

 

[JD D05]

It is sweet for sure! Are you serious about selling it?

Yes, but the problem I always have is removing parts. It has about 20K in suspension wheels and custom paint work...Most people don't want to pay for all that which is totally fair but don't want it removed and returned to stock either.

 

[JD D05]

How much how many miles?

I have not confirmed a price really. Has 18K on it

 

[Runs2rch]

Yes, but the problem I always have is removing parts. It has about 20K in suspension wheels and custom paint work...Most people don't want to pay for all that which is totally fair but don't want it removed and returned to stock either.

I know exactly how that goes. Takes the right person to appreciate the parts/time involved. Pm me after you have a chance to think about it.

 

[Enen]

I went with a '16 Ram 2500 Mega Cab Limited. My previous two trucks were Duramax's. Currently the Ram and the almighty Cummins are in the process of getting lemon lawed. Here's a video showing how the engine randomly stalls.

There have been other issues. Uconnect screen will glitch out randomly. But hey, if you pick up a Ram, I'll smoke you a deal on a 5-6" Kelderman air suspension lift.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

You are right. But look up exhaust manifold bolts Ram Hemi. For that reason alone I will never buy another Hemi powered vehicle Again.

Don't look it up, I lived it. Horrible exhaust leak! Only a few people made a special tool to replace the bolts without pulling the head.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

I bought a DRW Mega 2018 and haven't had any issues. I did like the Chevy, but really wanted the straight axle front for lifting it up. I still haven't lifted it, but it's on the to do list. After the warranty is up, it's getting tuned, bigger turbo/intercooler and a built tranny.

I test drove them all and the Ford was at the bottom of the list in my mind. I may have been biased to start because of the 6.0 and I don't like boxy trucks.

 

[454Rocket]

16 2500 Cummins here. If I could do it over I would have ordered a 3500 Mega with the Aisin trans and HO engine. I do not like the coil rear end. I did install a set of Timbrens which made a significant improvement while towing.

That being said, the Ford is the nicest of the 3, but I don't see them being discounted nearly as much as the other 2. Both the GM and Ram will be getting a full redesign for '20.

For mileage I get 14-ish in Phoenix metro driving, and 18-ish Interstate at 80, up to low 20's at 55.

Towing my 7500lb 20' toyhauler I see as low as 6 running 75-77 with a headwind, but usually around 8 at 75 and up to 10 on flat ground at 55-60. The mileage has improved some now that the motor has 30k on it, it was 1-2 mpg worse prior.

Sounds right.

I was at 9 mpg overall on my trip with a 32ft boat but my foot was in it the entire time

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[kingpin]

Love my Dodge!

 

[Terminal Velocity]

Interesting and informative thread as i've been contemplating a new truck. I have a 2004 Dodge Cummins 4x4 with 6 speed manual i've been thinking about selling its got 98,500 on it but not sure what it's worth. I hate seeing it sit, i drive it once a week to just keep stuff lubed and cycle fuel i'm just not in love shifting all the time (getting to old for that crap LOL). It's probably a better truck than the new ones all things considered but with age comes laziness.

 

[94essex]

Interesting and informative thread as i've been contemplating a new truck. I have a 2004 Dodge Cummins 4x4 with 6 speed manual i've been thinking about selling its got 98,500 on it but not sure what it's worth. I hate seeing it sit, i drive it once a week to just keep stuff lubed and cycle fuel i'm just not in love shifting all the time (getting to old for that crap LOL). It's probably a better truck than the new ones all things considered but with age comes laziness.

I bet youd get 22 to 25k all day for it. 5.9 and 6 speed g56 was a good combo

 

[Terminal Velocity]

I bet youd get 22 to 25k all day for it. 5.9 and 6 speed g56 was a good combo

Ok thanks, it tows my race trailer like a dream, love the towing capability, it's just the around town shifting sucks(for me) Dad never had an issue as he was a truck driver for 38 years. Truck is all stock (except for Fass fuel pump and K&N Cold Air), just can't decide if i want to get rid of Dad's truck.

 

[JD D05]

Interesting and informative thread as i've been contemplating a new truck. I have a 2004 Dodge Cummins 4x4 with 6 speed manual i've been thinking about selling its got 98,500 on it but not sure what it's worth. I hate seeing it sit, i drive it once a week to just keep stuff lubed and cycle fuel i'm just not in love shifting all the time (getting to old for that crap LOL). It's probably a better truck than the new ones all things considered but with age comes laziness.

My dad owns a 06 with a 6 speed dually 5.9. It is the dedicated snowmobile hauler. You might be shocked what someone would pay for it, but they are defiantly not nicer than the new ones. Great truck though especially if it does the job and it isn't a small mortgage.

 

[Terminal Velocity]

My dad owns a 06 with a 6 speed dually 5.9. It is the dedicated snowmobile hauler. You might be shocked what someone would pay for it, but they are defiantly not nicer than the new ones. Great truck though especially if it does the job and it isn't a small mortgage.

I was thinking "nicer" in the less shit to go bad (electronics, emissions etc). As for power and amenities 14 years newer will do that, and yea the end pricing on new is a small mortgage.

 

[JD D05]

I was thinking "nicer" in the less shit to go bad (electronics, emissions etc). As for power and amenities 14 years newer will do that, and yea the end pricing on new is a small mortgage.

Ya they do have less of all that ha. I love my dads because I don't have to use mine in the winter going to WY etc through the salt and crap.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

My gas ram has a “max care” factory extended warranty


Unlimited mileage
Unlimited time

It’s badass. You cannot get it on the diesels

If you dont mind me asking what did the unlimited warranty run? That sounds like a pretty good option and the deductibles look low at 0-200 bucks.

 

[Yellowboat]

Interesting and informative thread as i've been contemplating a new truck. I have a 2004 Dodge Cummins 4x4 with 6 speed manual i've been thinking about selling its got 98,500 on it but not sure what it's worth. I hate seeing it sit, i drive it once a week to just keep stuff lubed and cycle fuel i'm just not in love shifting all the time (getting to old for that crap LOL). It's probably a better truck than the new ones all things considered but with age comes laziness.

Don't do it. You will never be able too replace it

 

[94essex]

My dad owns a 06 with a 6 speed dually 5.9. It is the dedicated snowmobile hauler. You might be shocked what someone would pay for it, but they are defiantly not nicer than the new ones. Great truck though especially if it does the job and it isn't a small mortgage.

I hear i daily drive mine which is a 13 with same manual transmission as yours its a pain in the ass. But when im towin the freeway i remember why i like it.

 

[Terminal Velocity]

Don't do it. You will never be able too replace it

That's one thing that keeps going through my mind. It just kills me to see it sit so much, may have to drive it all weekend.