1968 Schiada

[NAFLASH]

Just my two cents but you might want to pull the distributor and pre-oil that thing before turning it over with the starter. Could save you having to freshen the motor. If it hooks a bearing from lack of oil you won't be happy. I would like to have one of those old schiada flattys too. When Steve Harper worked with me at Schiada he was looking for the old molds to build a new original Schiada flat. I would have built one too if we ever found molds. That thing looks so nice and well preserved after your elbow grease.

X2. IF it ran when it was put away. 9 times out of 10 it will start and run decent. How good is a different story. It will most likely burn some when you start it but just do a little tune up and run with it. The boat will be fun no matter how fast it is. And trust me, even with a 30 year old motor I'm sure it will surprise you. I've seen some pretty ratty old thrown together motors run like hell, Just be positive!!

 

[RyanPartridge]

Not much of an update. Last week I siphoned the old gas out of the tanks, peeked inside the fill cap with a flashlight and there's crud in there.

The tanks are steel(galvanized?) with these sort of pressed wood ends that are fiberglassed into the boat(no photos yet). I was told by a buddy to cut em out and replace them with SS Imco tanks but that isn't in my budget. Plus, I'd probably have to order custom tanks considering that my fill caps were mounted towards the rear which would have standard Imco style tanks running backwards.

Anyone know a magic solution that would allow me to leave my original tanks in, clean em out, and safely continue to use them?

 

[RiverDave]

The tanks are just old steel? Are you sure their not stainless already?

I'm wondering if you can just flush them real good a couple times, and your good to go?

RD

 

[RyanPartridge]

The tanks are just old steel? Are you sure their not stainless already?

I'm wondering if you can just flush them real good a couple times, and your good to go?

RD

Maybe. I hope! Someone just recommended I pour a half can of McKay Parts Dip in each tank and drive around for a while letting it slosh around. I'm willing to try anything if there's a chance at saving the OG tanks. I'd hate to start cutting into the boat.

 

[RiverDave]

Maybe. I hope! Someone just recommended I pour a half can of McKay Parts Dip in each tank and drive around for a while letting it slosh around. I'm willing to try anything if there's a chance at saving the OG tanks. I'd hate to start cutting into the boat.

This would be my 1st Call to Schiada Stan.. What were the tanks made out of? and how do you clean them up? I'm sure he's got an answer for ya.

RD

 

[Cole Trickle]

Awesome find......:bowdown:

I'm not a super traditional/old school guy but there is no way I would change the gell/graphics on that boat

Thats a boat you restore for future generations to seearty:arty2:

 

[RyanPartridge]

This would be my 1st Call to Schiada Stan.. What were the tanks made out of? and how do you clean them up? I'm sure he's got an answer for ya.

RD

Thanks Dave, I PM'd him.

Awesome find......:bowdown:

I'm not a super traditional/old school guy but there is no way I would change the gell/graphics on that boat

Thats a boat you restore for future generations to seearty:arty2:

Thanks Cole, I agree. That's why I want to take every precaution to save what's original/still usable.

 

[BamBam]

Be careful what you put into the tanks. If they are ss it's no big deal. If they are aluminum and you put the wrong corrosive in it you won't be happy. By the way when we took off Sunday the boat wasn't in your garage. It was empty or I would have stopped in. We will see it soon. We will be our there again august 16th or so.

 

[TBI]

Wow! Great thread/story! :thumbsup

 

[sandeggo]

the tanks are old galvanized steel, i had to pull one out of my 69 cuz it was leaking. the seam is on the bottom and its spot welded. i will be making aluminum ones this winter for my deal. also on the back corner of the boat i have a stress crack on each side from where the tanks are tabbed in. everyone says to just used that tank seal epoxy crap you can order online. the problem with that is you still have to pull the tank to swish it all around.

 

[MissB]

any updated pics? Can't wait to see you in it on the riva! :thumbsup

 

[RyanPartridge]

any updated pics? Can't wait to see you in it on the riva! :thumbsup

No updated pics or major news. Yesterday Steve Harper came by, pulled the drive shaft and hand cranked the motor over and it went easy, even with the plugs in.

Decided not to cut out the tanks, I'm going to clean them out the best while still in the boat, replace the fuel filter, run a few in line filters, new fuel pump change the oil and gear lube, battery, rebuild the carb and run it.

The Coyote will be running in no time.

Winter is coming but I own a coat.

 

[sandeggo]

if you end up having to cut them out, it takes about 5 minutes with a sawzall. put a metal cutting blade in it and make a slice on the forward mount. cut about a inch behind the tank where its tabbed in. then you can slide the tank forward out of the rear mount.
heres a pic of what the tab looks like. they use a piece of wood to go into the flange of the tank

 

[RyanPartridge]

Cut my tanks out tonight. I've been trying to clean/flush/suck out the crud and gum but it's no use while they're in the boat. I sloshed a bunch of Parts Dip/Carb Cleaner around which helped a bit but not enough.

I'm going to try more tomorrow and possibly take the tanks by a radiator shop and see what they might be able to do to clean em out.

Also mounted my drivers seat back so I fit now. :thumbsup

 

[rivergames]

Ryan,

Boats look'n good and seams to be almost ready to get wet again after 23 years of sitting. Im sure you can find 2 stainless or aluminum saddle tanks layin around for $250-$300 for the pair. I might have a lead on a set if you are interested. The fill cap is near the end of the tanks if I remember correctly.

 

[RyanPartridge]

Ryan,

Boats look'n good and seams to be almost ready to get wet again after 23 years of sitting. Im sure you can find 2 stainless or aluminum saddle tanks layin around for $250-$300 for the pair. I might have a lead on a set if you are interested. The fill cap is near the end of the tanks if I remember correctly.

Thanks for lookin' out brother, I'm bringing the tanks home with me tonight. There's a guy in Bellflower with a hot tank who might be able to clean em out like new and do any repairs. I'm going to try and save em.

Trying to keep it original. We'll see though...

 

[rivergames]

Thanks for lookin' out brother, I'm bringing the tanks home with me tonight. There's a guy in Bellflower with a hot tank who might be able to clean em out like new and do any repairs. I'm going to try and save em.

Trying to keep it original. We'll see though...

Sounds good. The neck on one of my saddle tanks cracked and i need to get it fixed. Would he be able to fix this as well?

 

[RyanPartridge]

Sounds good. The neck on one of my saddle tanks cracked and i need to get it fixed. Would he be able to fix this as well?

I'll ask him.:thumbsup

 

[rivergames]

How did the new tanks turn out?

 

[RyanPartridge]

How did the new tanks turn out?

Still waitin' on em.

Pics coming as soon as I pick them up and mount em. :thumbsup

 

[RiverDave]

Where's the f'n tanks Ryan?

RD

 

[RyanPartridge]

Where's the f'n tanks Ryan?

RD

Just picked em up the other day, they look way bitchin' too. Brian at KSH does top notch work. :champagne:

I didn't get any photos, but I will. I'm going back in a week or so to glass em in and install my new fittings, hoses and fuel filter.

Gary Hairebedian and Joe(Kyote) came by yesterday to check it out. They gave me some good advice on some questions I had. :thumbsup

 

[RiverDave]

Just picked em up the other day, they look way bitchin' too. Brian at KSH does top notch work. :champagne:

I didn't get any photos, but I will. I'm going back in a week or so to glass em in and install my new fittings, hoses and fuel filter.

Gary Hairebedian and Joe(Kyote) came by yesterday to check it out. They gave me some good advice on some questions I had. :thumbsup

Good to hear you got them picked up! I'll look forward to the pictures. Are they Baffled?

RD

 

[rivergames]

Ryan, The parker race is only 1 month away. More than enough time to get it done so you can come and race nostalgia flat

 

[Wonsley66]

I need to come check out your boat some weekend.:thumbsup

 

[warpt71]

Ryan, The parker race is only 1 month away. More than enough time to get it done so you can come and race nostalgia flat

Is your boat going to be out there racing?!?!

 

[RyanPartridge]

Good to hear you got them picked up! I'll look forward to the pictures. Are they Baffled?

RD

Yep.

Ryan, The parker race is only 1 month away. More than enough time to get it done so you can come and race nostalgia flat

I need to come check out your boat some weekend.:thumbsup

More than welcome to stop by anytime. I'd like to see yours up close too. :thumbsup

Is your boat going to be out there racing?!?!

Hadn't really planned on it, but you never know. We'll see how she runs...

 

[warpt71]

Hadn't really planned on it, but you never know. We'll see how she runs...

Haha I was actuall trying to give Andrew a hard time! Im trying to get out there that weekend. You think your boat will be done? If mine is we'll have to cruise up river toghether, and any other flattys for that matter

 

[RyanPartridge]

Haha I was actuall trying to give Andrew a hard time! Im trying to get out there that weekend. You think your boat will be done? If mine is we'll have to cruise up river toghether, and any other flattys for that matter

It all depends on how soon I can get back to Parker to work on it, and how long I can stay.

By the way, Scummer loaned me his River Rats videos lastnight. First disc on part 2, I saw you kickin' ass in front of Red Rock. :thumbsup

 

[warpt71]

It all depends on how soon I can get back to Parker to work on it, and how long I can stay.

By the way, Scummer loaned me his River Rats videos lastnight. First disc on part 2, I saw you kickin' ass in front of Red Rock. :thumbsup

Really?? I dont think that was me. My boat didnt hit water till oct of '06

I know what you mean about getting things toghther, I just got my boat home and my motor and all parts are still 2 hours away from me. getting away from work is hard. I would go and work for a 24 hr company too :bash:

 

[RyanPartridge]

Really?? I dont think that was me. My boat didnt hit water till oct of '06

Oh nevermind then. I thought I spotted your boat.

 

[rivergames]

Is your boat going to be out there racing?!?!

I can actually say that i will be racing the P550 thanksgiving weekend. :thumbsup Im going to try and make all the races next year otherwise its gonna be alot of this :drnkfr

 

[rivergames]

Oh nevermind then. I thought I spotted your boat.

I think I know the boat your talking about. I think his name is also Ryan that drives it. I could be wrong though

 

[RyanPartridge]

I can actually say that i will be racing the P550 thanksgiving weekend.

I'll be rootin' for you guys. Do you know if the P24 is racing?

I think I know the boat your talking about. I think his name is also Ryan that drives it. I could be wrong though

Ahhh, ok. I probably saw the white boat and name and assumed...

 

[warpt71]

I can actually say that i will be racing the P550 thanksgiving weekend. :thumbsup Im going to try and make all the races next year otherwise its gonna be alot of this :drnkfr

cool deal! Its always more fun to have someone to watch and root for.

 

[RyanPartridge]

A couple weeks ago I drove up to Eugene, Oregon to pick up an 08 trailer for the boat. The old trailer needed too much time and money to bring it back to life and this new trailer was a deal too good to pass up. Even with the roadtrip. :thumbsup

Last night I floated the boat while my buddy backed down the new trailer. The boat fits perfect! Here she is gettin' wet for the first time in nearly 25 years.

 

[boatguy222]

Ryan,
the trailer looks very good under your boat.

BTW, my tub will be a Nordic getting a balsa floor and maybe some gelcoat, next week, so if you get up that way stop by and talk a look.

Marc

 

[Wheeler]

Ryan, the boat looks even better in the water, won't be long now! :thumbsup


Ps. Racey is selling a Mandella without a trailer, maybe the buyer will need your old trailer?

 

[RyanPartridge]

Ryan,
the trailer looks very good under your boat.

BTW, my tub will be a Nordic getting a balsa floor and maybe some gelcoat, next week, so if you get up that way stop by and talk a look.

Marc

Thanks Marc! I'll let you know if head I back up.

Ryan, the boat looks even better in the water, won't be long now! :thumbsup


Ps. Racey is selling a Mandella without a trailer, maybe the buyer will need your old trailer?

I saw that. I took some photos of the trailer, I'll post em up tonight. :thumbsup

 

[sandeggo]

did you ever get your tanks in? do they mount the same way as the old ones? if so be careful tabbing them in at the very back my schiada has a spider stress crack on both sides where the tab ends at the top. get some pics up of the tanks, im making new ones this winter and need inspiration to go out to big river to pick the boat up and bring it home

 

[RyanPartridge]

did you ever get your tanks in? do they mount the same way as the old ones? if so be careful tabbing them in at the very back my schiada has a spider stress crack on both sides where the tab ends at the top. get some pics up of the tanks, im making new ones this winter and need inspiration to go out to big river to pick the boat up and bring it home

Everything is pretty much in place ready to be glassed in. Like the old ones, the wood will be glassed in but this time the tanks will be bolted so they won't be so permanent. I've decided to have a professional handle the fiber glassing so I don't ruin it. They're also going to pretty up the floor blemishes under where the old tanks sat. Should be installed next week. :thumbsup

Here's a couple photos. Please excuse the dust and messy floors.

 

[67 baron sprint LD 390 FE]

what a bithcin find. when are you going to get it complete.

 

[sandeggo]

interested to see how they bolt on, ill be fabbing my tanks up and was thinking of different ways to mount them.

 

[RyanPartridge]

what a bithcin find. when are you going to get it complete.

Thanks baron. Once the tanks are in the rest should go quick. Month or two...

 

[RyanPartridge]

interested to see how they bolt on, ill be fabbing my tanks up and was thinking of different ways to mount them.

Just tabs welded to the ends of the tanks, pretty standard setup I've noticed.

 

[RyanPartridge]

I pulled the motor on Saturday night and brought it back home with me to work on. As of right now, the plan is to drop the pan and clean out the 24 year old oil that's been sitting. Also add new oil pump and valve springs.

Here's a few photos I snapped.

 

[Wheeler]

Good deal Ryan, it won't be long now! :thumbsup

I'm planning on bringing my engine back to the Oc. this week, I really need to get the boat running this year.

 

[Wonsley66]

Any updates? We wanna see this thing on the water

 

[RiverDave]

Lookin good Ryan!! Glad to see you back online every once n awhile too!

RD

 

[74 spectra20 v-drive]

I can't believ how great the boat looks inside, the interior looks perfect as well. Did the black seats hold up as good as they look in the pictures? This will be one cool survivor and there aren't many people who will have a boat this old all orioginal.