… Getting serious about buying a used Porsche Cayenne… need input from the experts👍…

[Willie B]

… I am currently looking at a 2013 Porsche Cayenne 300 hp V6… It was told to me by Gary Emory of Porsche parts, obsolete and Emory motorsports … To buy the V6… I don’t know if that is because of fuel milage or what???… I need to know if the V6 will run on the 87 octane I don’t wanna get sucked into having to put premium in a vehicle???…
… Gary Emory told me that the early ones like 2006 at 2007 can be had for six to $7000… I have no clue as to what accessories these cars came with… but any info I can get of these vehicles from the forum members would certainly be appreciated… especially what to look out for as I’m not as sharp as I once was…

 

[Travmon]

The car that has the most sales in a worldwide region. Must be worth it.

 

[SBMech]

Just say no.

Porsche like BMW's and Mercedes are not vehicles to own as used cars without a very comprehensive warranty in place, otherwise you need to have a large wallet....

They are expensive to own Willie.

To answer your question, they only run on PREMIUM FUEL.

 

[TimeBandit]

write this down.

"if you can't afford a new one, you can't afford a used one"

 

[pixrthis]

I’m told by @Radioactive that the diesels are the shit, he just bought one.

 

[Dunerking]

We owned a 13 Cayenne diesel and loved it! The 8 speed trans was flawless and the car was a pleasure to drive. But it’s not a cheap car to own,I did my own motor oil,filter(air,fuel,and cabin) service,the front brakes and would’ve done the rears but you need software to disable the electric parking brake. I also would’ve done the trans but you need to heat the fluid and pump in the accurate amount. Sold to my BIL and he just had a new water pump and full cooling system service $3k.
Did a road trip to Lake Travis Texas and it was very happy cruising 90-95 for hours on end.

 

[JBZ]

Make sure you look at the roof.
A very common issue is the clear coat goes to shit. You will see a white haze and clear coat flaking off.
I have only seen this on the roof and the spoiler thing at the trunk.
We just purchased a 2014. Make sure you get a deal, trans issues are a problem. Just be ready for things to happen
ours is a V8 Turbo

 

[Backlash]

As already stated, buying a used German vehicle is going to cost you more than you'd probably want to spend. German engineering is incredible until it isn't. When something happens or goes mechanically "Wrong," it's going to sting. You either have to take it to a stealership or a reputable repair shop which both charge an astronomical amount of money for repairs. I'd steer clear for those reasons alone.

 

[clarence]

where are the Porsche cayenne expo builds?

why aren't there any Porsche cayenne builds? I know there no g500 but for 10K less money on average I am really considering one for a base rig to build. there seems to some nice stock attributes for a expo rig. opinions? :bowdown:

forum.expeditionportal.com

 

[86403]

Over 200k miles on my 2012 Cayenne Turbo. Been flawless, but also impeccably maintained since day one. Stabbed rat fast.

I would be very hesitant to purchase a used one without an incredibly thorough PPI by a very knowledgeable Porsche mechanic in addition to an extensive service history.

 

[Radioactive]

Cayenne/Q7/Q5/ Tiguan 3.0 Diesel

All have a 10yr/120K from in service date warranty on engine/emissions
30mpg, Cayenne/Q7 have 26gal, so 700 mile range.
Hard to keep your foot out of it to get the 30mpg
Cayenne has shift on the wheel.
Towing capacity 7k lbs, all wheel drive

I would stay away from the air ride, more shit to go wrong, $$$.

Had about a year, trouble free so far.

 

[Albert]

I have three Porsches one of them has the air ride suspension hit a pothole . Air shock, sway link , hub and alignment 13k repair luckily ins picked up but yes its pricey my oil changes are $800

 

[DILLIGAF]

I don't know what kind of Porche Lucky Strike had but I had to just throw my body out onto the pavement to get out of the fucker....lol Actually he has had multiple Porches.....

I am a truck guy.......

 

[Willie B]

… I am paying attention to all of this… because I am going in semi blind… I have had numerous older Mercedes… And I have had numerous diesels… will never buy another air ride… spent a lot of money, keeping my expedition air ride up…
… I would have to sell my lake Oroville property to buy a new Cayanne… don’t really want to do that???…

 

[Willie B]

I have three Porsches one of them has the air ride suspension hit a pothole . Air shock, sway link , hub and alignment 13k repair luckily ins picked up but yes its pricey my oil changes are $800

… I called the guy who used to do the work on my vehicles that I didn’t want to do… And at this point in my life, he has to do all of the work on my vehicles… Because I simply can’t do it anymore… I asked him if he worked on Porsche Cayenne‘s… And he kind of himmed and hawwed…he said yeah we do… I told him I have been warned about $250 oil changes… He said about 75 bucks for an oil change.…

 

[rivermobster]

@whiteworks

 

[Albert]

You can also purchase a aftermarket warranty which would probably well worth it . If it has the PDK transmission and it goes out they can by pricy

 

[whiteworks]

A used Porsche is just as expensive to maintain as a new one, only difference is cost of entry. They all use Porsche parts and those are not cheap. I would not hesitate to buy a properly maintained Porsche car. If you take your time looking you can find a nice well taken care of car that will provide plenty of service, if you rush in and buy the wrong car you could have $15k+ in deferred maintenance and a laundry list of things that are not right.

I would be looking for a GT or GTS as they have some better components on them (bigger brakes, more HP, finer trim package) however those will also cost more to maintain.

Another thing you may want to look into is the diesel VW Touareg, that’s a car that caused problems for VW with the emissions bullshit, basically you plug the car in for emissions test and it retunes and gives answers the test is looking for however I hear that those are the holy grail vehicles if you find a good one your set for life. Kinda like the old 300d Benz, million mile cars.

 

[Willie B]

A used Porsche is just as expensive to maintain as a new one, only difference is cost of entry. They all use Porsche parts and those are not cheap. I would not hesitate to buy a properly maintained Porsche car. If you take your time looking you can find a nice well taken care of car that will provide plenty of service, if you rush in and buy the wrong car you could have $15k+ in deferred maintenance and a laundry list of things that are not right.

I would be looking for a GT or GTS as they have some better components on them (bigger brakes, more HP, finer trim package) however those will also cost more to maintain.

Another thing you may want to look into is the diesel VW Touareg, that’s a car that caused problems for VW with the emissions bullshit, basically you plug the car in for emissions test and it retunes and gives answers the test is looking for however I hear that those are the holy grail vehicles if you find a good one your set for life. Kinda like the old 300d Benz, million mile cars.

… Had a couple of 300SD Mercedes… spectacular cars… a ‘79 snd an’80…unfortunately they both burned to the ground… When I lost all my stuff up at the Lake Oroville fire… oh well what can you do???.,.

 

[Willie B]

… Starting to get it about the diesels…17 or 19 mpg around town 29 highway… This one has like 71,000 miles on it… But I kind of don’t want to spend that much … it’s not all that far away from where I live… So I may try to get Neighbor a girl to drive me out there in her Tesla rental car that she got today… Long story about what Americas tire did to her Mercedes which is why they are paying for a rental car for her…

 

[Ace in the Hole]

… Starting to get it about the diesels…17 or 19 mpg around town 29 highway… This one has like 71,000 miles on it… But I kind of don’t want to spend that much … it’s not all that far away from where I live… So I may try to get Neighbor a girl to drive me out there in her Tesla rental car that she got today… Long story about what Americas tire did to her Mercedes which is why they are paying for a rental car for her… View attachment 1286317

Much like the BMWs the early DPF diesels on the German vehicles are kind of shit… I blew a cylinder over a missed diagnosis that injector was bad but in reality the DPF filter was just that clogged.

It was a 2011 I had the cylinder fixed and sold it.

I have a gasoline/PHEV version now and it’s been sitting for 4 1/2 months waiting on a fucking sunroof that shattered for parts.

One of my close friends is a regional trainer for Porsche N/A I always enjoy his content on social media and seeing the cars he gets to have for a few months at a crack… but it reinforced in me never to own one out of warranty.

 

[MonkeyButt70]

If you need a get around car for a budget. Buy a TOYOTA!

 

[Willie B]

Much like the BMWs the early DPF diesels on the German vehicles are kind of shit… I blew a cylinder over a missed diagnosis that injector was bad but in reality the DPF filter was just that clogged.

It was a 2011 I had the cylinder fixed and sold it.

I have a gasoline/PHEV version now and it’s been sitting for 4 1/2 months waiting on a fucking sunroof that shattered for parts.

One of my close friends is a regional trainer for Porsche N/A I always enjoy his content on social media and seeing the cars he gets to have for a few months at a crack… but it reinforced in me never to own one out of warranty.

… Well…That’s kind of encouraging… like maybe not so much???… I had definitely thought about a warranty of some sort… although I know nothing about them… as I have never bought a new car or a used car with a warranty???…

 

[Willie B]

If you need a get around car for a budget. Buy a TOYOTA!

… That would be, me being a realist about the situation… I have always had some sort of or a few classic classic cars around up until about the last 10 years or so…
… i’m sort of trying to get back into my youthful unrealistic way of living…

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

Id gives this a long bit of consideration.... and you definitely can warranty these thru 3rd party.... I had a gal who owned the VW version of this and I'd wash it and was amazed at the simiarities to the Porsche version. You'll be paying for that brand name but you know that. as mentioned these older Euros are real costly when go down.... and they always go down I hear.

 

[MeCasa16]

I have a buddy that owns like 4 of these cayennes. He loved the first one and just keeps buying used ones he finds for good deals. His wife bought a new panemera, and it has had a bunch of issues, but his old cayennes are pretty trouble free.

 

[boatpi]

Did they make the Porsche or the VW in a 10 cylinder diesel, some same torque?

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Much like the BMWs the early DPF diesels on the German vehicles are kind of shit… I blew a cylinder over a missed diagnosis that injector was bad but in reality the DPF filter was just that clogged.

It was a 2011 I had the cylinder fixed and sold it.

I have a gasoline/PHEV version now and it’s been sitting for 4 1/2 months waiting on a fucking sunroof that shattered for parts.

One of my close friends is a regional trainer for Porsche N/A I always enjoy his content on social media and seeing the cars he gets to have for a few months at a crack… but it reinforced in me never to own one out of warranty.

How did the sunroof shatter?

 

[Ace in the Hole]

How did the sunroof shatter?

spontaneously on the freeway, seems to be a common issue. I don’t doubt a rock either. Problem is most glass shops won’t do them. It’s supposed to be fixed this month.

 

[86403]

A great source of Porsche model specific technical information:

Porsche Technical Discussion Areas - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums

Porsche Technical Discussion Areas - Technical discussion and mechanical help for all Porsche. Including the Porsche 992, 718, 924, 968, Boxster, 981, 996, 997, 991, Cayman, Macan, Cayenne, and Panamera.

rennlist.com

 

[motormonkey]

Buy it if you like it. That model will cost you no more than any used car in maintenence really.
I like that choice because they are easy to get in and out of. I'm suprised I still have nuts climbing in and out of sports cars. LOL

 

[riverroyal]

How much patience do you have? 100% chance this suv will piss you off over something

 

[Markus]

From looking at Cayennes a few years ago, my take was to get one with the V8 and air suspension.

 

[lakemadness]

Did they make the Porsche or the VW in a 10 cylinder diesel, some same torque?

A friend had the v10 diesel Touareg. Had some balls. That motor never came in the Cayenne.

 

[lakemadness]

I’m shopping around for a Cayenne GTS. That V8 sounds mean and it hauls soccer balls. Also looking at the Audi SQ8, basically the same set up as the Cayenne.

Yeah, maintenance and repairs can be more than a lesser car. Duh. If you’re concerned about that, then a higher end German car should not be on your short list.

I have ‘91 Carrera. Air cooled car. Quality is crazy and reliability is great. It’s doubled in value in the last 7 years too. The build quality over the years has diminished, unfortunately. But Porsche still rolls out a phenomenal product IMO.

 

[Willie B]

.., A lady friend of mine is coming over about 5:30ish today and bringing her 2012 Porsche Cayenne …and its accessory list… I wish she would sell me this car as it only has 56,000 miles on it and her words to me were… she’s getting old… So she went out and bought a brand new 180 mph… Porsche Panamera and fully intends on keeping both cars…Oh
…well???…
…Her sister… who was my girlfriend when she was in the 10th grade and I was just out of high school… is coming over at about 3:30… A very welcomed visit…as the heat has gotten to me and I’ve kind of overdone it…

 

[lbhsbz]

… I called the guy who used to do the work on my vehicles that I didn’t want to do… And at this point in my life, he has to do all of the work on my vehicles… Because I simply can’t do it anymore… I asked him if he worked on Porsche Cayenne‘s… And he kind of himmed and hawwed…he said yeah we do… I told him I have been warned about $250 oil changes… He said about 75 bucks for an oil change.…

I would not let him work on your new porsche. That engine requires an oil that meets Porsche C3 specification...and about 8 quarts of it...if he's doing it for $75, he'd working for free and probably giving you the oil filter, or using shit oil that doesn't meet the requirements.

 

[Backlash]

Buy it if you like it. That model will cost you no more than any used car in maintenence really.
I like that choice because they are easy to get in and out of. I'm suprised I still have nuts climbing in and out of sports cars. LOL

Not necessarily true my friend. Based on a quick search, the Porsche Cayenne costs @ $1231 a year for routine maintenance while a Toyota Camry costs @ $388 per year. This is all hypothetical and of course, doesn't take into account prior maintenance.

 

[HST4ME]

Not even with Grads dick.

 

[sml]

spontaneously on the freeway, seems to be a common issue. I don’t doubt a rock either. Problem is most glass shops won’t do them. It’s supposed to be fixed this month.

For what it’s worth…..i have a auto glass shop and do work for a high volume BMW dealership for the last 10 years. Between the dealership and their body shop it is a daily stop. Never once have i heard of this.

Typically glass shops don’t have to do these. They are a bolt in style and not urethane in like a fixed panoramic roof so in the case for me the service dept or in house body shop does them if they break and i can’t say i’ve ever seen them replace one, only r&i for roof repair. I would imagine this is a part availability issue? Pm your vin and i can certainly see wtf the hold up is……

Now the new 7 series there absolutely is a problem but at least they are fixed laminated glass so it is still drivable and doesn’t “explode” on you like tempered does!

 

[sml]

I would have no problems owning a 3.0 tdi version if you could find one? Should still have an extended emissions warranty and possibly still fall under the 10 year powertrain warranty…..

I used the dealer for our Q7 tdi, only real issues it had was emission related. Everything was replaced. It was very sensitive with the def so i only put adblue brand in it.

I gave it to my parents so i’m still responsible for it lol. Just hit 80 some thousand miles.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

For what it’s worth…..i have a auto glass shop and do work for a high volume BMW dealership for the last 10 years. Between the dealership and their body shop it is a daily stop. Never once have i heard of this.

Typically glass shops don’t have to do these. They are a bolt in style and not urethane in like a fixed panoramic roof so in the case for me the service dept or in house body shop does them if they break and i can’t say i’ve ever seen them replace one, only r&i for roof repair. I would imagine this is a part availability issue? Pm your vin and i can certainly see wtf the hold up is……

Now the new 7 series there absolutely is a problem but at least they are fixed laminated glass so it is still drivable and doesn’t “explode” on you like tempered does!

From what I’ve been told by the The shop it’s a parts availability issue combined with the insurance company only wanting to pay for the panel not a whole cartridge I finally got really pissed off about two weeks ago and started making a bunch of phone calls and that seem to get things moving again. I’m not gonna go home until Tuesday night but I’ll PM you. I have an enclosed trailer I don’t care to take it somewhere within reason (CA where I’m assuming you are).

This deal has been a cluster fuck from when we got bumped in Flagstaff in late March. While waiting for the car to go in the shop for that (minor minor damage) The sunroof incident happened… And between the fighting between the insurance company and the shop the shop didn’t want it until the glass was replaced they don’t do it and it’s been a freaking merry-go-round since.

Honestly I probably should’ve been louder and dealt with it more directly but the last few months of our life has been quite hectic not by our choosing.

 

[sml]

From what I’ve been told by the The shop it’s a parts availability issue combined with the insurance company only wanting to pay for the panel not a whole cartridge I finally got really pissed off about two weeks ago and started making a bunch of phone calls and that seem to get things moving again. I’m not gonna go home until Tuesday night but I’ll PM you. I have an enclosed trailer I don’t care to take it somewhere within reason (CA where I’m assuming you are).

This deal has been a cluster fuck from when we got bumped in Flagstaff in late March. While waiting for the car to go in the shop for that (minor minor damage) The sunroof incident happened… And between the fighting between the insurance company and the shop the shop didn’t want it until the glass was replaced they don’t do it and it’s been a freaking merry-go-round since.

Honestly I probably should’ve been louder and dealt with it more directly but the last few months of our life has been quite hectic not by our choosing.

I am a couple thousand miles away but i can have a bmw rep look in to it and i could see a part status……best advise i can give when dealing with insurance companies and needing glass repair is to just get the work done and pay out of pocket. Do not even call to start a claim…just submit the receipt for reimbursement after the work is done.

 

[Willie B]

I would not let him work on your new porsche. That engine requires an oil that Porsche C3 specification...and about 8 quarts of it...if he's doing it for $75, he'd working for free and probably giving you the oil filter, or using shit oil that doesn't meet the requirements.

… I know him well… He was guessing… he didn’t really know???… It’s going to cost what it costs… I know he’s not gonna cheat himself or me…
… Sometimes when I’m having work done… I pull out a lawn chair and watch his several mechanics work.., it’s almost like watching a ballet…

 

[Markus]

A friend had the v10 diesel Touareg. Had some balls. That motor never came in the Cayenne.

Never in the Cayenne. Maybe in some Audi.

I think it won some prize for the most polluting engine in a car in America.

 

[Willie B]

… Well… I went and drove the 2013 that I had originally been looking at… 106000…mlles…I really liked it. It handles really well. Even with a V6 it’s got plenty enough power for me…
… The negatives are the passenger front door has been re-painted to the point of most people wouldn’t notice the difference in shade…but I have a pretty good eye for that stuff… the hood shows quite a few tiny stone chips… it has a salvage title because of the damage to the passenger side front door… it also has had six previous owners… a lot of red flags here… but the price is quite a bit lower than any other 2013 that I have seen advertised online.., I forgot to ask the guy who’s lot this car is on about a used car warranty… I just left him a message… I have no idea what something like that would cost…
… the car doesn’t have to be pristine because it’s just going to sit out in the street in front of my house…
…So …it was the closest one to me… and the first one that I have sat behind the wheel and actually driven???…

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

I’m shopping around for a Cayenne GTS. That V8 sounds mean and it hauls soccer balls. Also looking at the Audi SQ8, basically the same set up as the Cayenne.

Yeah, maintenance and repairs can be more than a lesser car. Duh. If you’re concerned about that, then a higher end German car should not be on your short list.

I have ‘91 Carrera. Air cooled car. Quality is crazy and reliability is great. It’s doubled in value in the last 7 years too. The build quality over the years has diminished, unfortunately. But Porsche still rolls out a phenomenal product IMO.

Those Audi highend suvs are really popular around our beach fancies lately.... they catch your eye

https://www.audi.com.mx/mx/web/es/models/q8-e-tron/q8sbetron.html

 

[SBMech]

I am a couple thousand miles away but i can have a bmw rep look in to it and i could see a part status……best advise i can give when dealing with insurance companies and needing glass repair is to just get the work done and pay out of pocket. Do not even call to start a claim…just submit the receipt for reimbursement after the work is done.

As an inspector for those insurance companies, I can say that is fucking horrible advice.

No claim, no pay. Submitted after the act? Against the agreement terms you signed when you bought it. Toss up on if they will do anything for you.

Since around 2000 almost all manufacturers went to a cartridge type system, where the entire assembly is replaced. Very expensive.

But that is what insurance is, for accidents. Any qualified inspector can easily assess most types of damage these days, as you need to have decent qualifications to be an inspector now.

10 years ago any guy with a camera could do it, now they only hire people with industry or aftermarket certification. IE: ASE Mastertech or any Master certification from a Manufacturer.

 

[MonkeyButt70]

… Well… I went and drove the 2013 that I had originally been looking at… 106000…mlles…I really liked it. It handles really well. Even with a V6 it’s got plenty enough power for me…
… The negatives are the passenger front door has been re-painted to the point of most people wouldn’t notice the difference in shade…but I have a pretty good eye for that stuff… the hood shows quite a few tiny stone chips… it has a salvage title because of the damage to the passenger side front door… it also has had six previous owners… a lot of red flags here… but the price is quite a bit lower than any other 2013 that I have seen advertised online.., I forgot to ask the guy who’s lot this car is on about a used car warranty… I just left him a message… I have no idea what something like that would cost…
… the car doesn’t have to be pristine because it’s just going to sit out in the street in front of my house…
…So …it was the closest one to me… and the first one that I have sat behind the wheel and actually driven???…

If you are going to purchase a car with a salvage title, make sure your insurance will cover it. Some companies do not offer insurance for salvage/rebuilt titled cars. And if you do buy it, post pictures! I always enjoy a Porsche.

 

[Backlash]

Six owners and only 100K miles??? That should be a huge red flag! I would say there's more to that vehicle than what you've seen. I would steer clear.