You can’t park there

[Tank0088]

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[81Sprint]

Vin already parked there

 

[Vamodsquad]

Far out man !

 

[Kachina26]

Vin already parked there

I almost posted this last night, but I figured there was no way that it hadn't been posted already.

 

[wzuber]

What the heck happened? Seems he lost steering control. Did he also lose reverse control. Appears as though he never attempted to decelerate? Good thing he was just cruising and not going too fast. I hope nobody was injured. That was a nice looking gullwing. Did he hit another boat or just the wall?

 

[Luvnlife]

What the heck happened? Seems he lost steering control. Did he also lose reverse control. Appears as though he never attempted to decelerate? Good thing he was just cruising and not going too fast. I hope nobody was injured. That was a nice looking gullwing. Did he hit another boat or just the wall?

Sucks but it looked like a trifeccta, dock, boat, wall. Good looking boat and sometimes shit happens

 

[toto]

What the heck happened? Seems he lost steering control. Did he also lose reverse control. Appears as though he never attempted to decelerate? Good thing he was just cruising and not going too fast. I hope nobody was injured. That was a nice looking gullwing. Did he hit another boat or just the wall?

Watching the video sounds like the engine stalls and had no power which means zero steering. Been there done that in one our old jet boats and it is a Scary position to be in.

 

[2Driver]

Bob your order is ready, Bob.

 

[rivrrts429]

What the heck happened? Seems he lost steering control. Did he also lose reverse control. Appears as though he never attempted to decelerate? Good thing he was just cruising and not going too fast. I hope nobody was injured. That was a nice looking gullwing. Did he hit another boat or just the wall?

No JetAway or pop off Valve. All that money and little to no safety devices like a ratchet.

 

[lbhsbz]

According to the FB post…he went out to make a pass in front of a photographer on the dock, caught a roller from a wakeboard boat and just sorta panicked and went along for the ride after the wake pointed his boat in a different direction.

Plenty of ways to save it potentially, but once his brain realized they were still in the boat and switched over to problem solving mode…just ran outta time.

I’ve been in some hairy situations…and also been pitched out…it sometimes takes a few seconds for the brain to reset.

 

[Outdrive1]

According to the FB post…he went out to make a pass in front of a photographer on the dock, caught a roller from a wakeboard boat and just sorta panicked and went along for the ride after the wake pointed his boat in a different direction.

Plenty of ways to save it potentially, but once his brain realized they were still in the boat and switched over to problem solving mode…just ran outta time.

I’ve been in some hairy situations…and also been pitched out…it sometimes takes a few seconds for the brain to reset.

I really worry when people make passes close to the bars like that. Get out in the middle in case something happens or roll into when you’re next to the bar instead of before it. Just my opinion but some day a boat is going to end up inside the bar and innocent people are going to get hurt. I’m all for doing it and love to watch and do it myself though.

When we are at Foxs and someone is making passes I usually tell my wife to take our daughter upstairs.

 

[rivrrts429]

According to the FB post…he went out to make a pass in front of a photographer on the dock, caught a roller from a wakeboard boat and just sorta panicked and went along for the ride after the wake pointed his boat in a different direction.

Plenty of ways to save it potentially, but once his brain realized they were still in the boat and switched over to problem solving mode…just ran outta time.

I’ve been in some hairy situations…and also been pitched out…it sometimes takes a few seconds for the brain to reset.

No way. If he had the safety devices he could steer. Definitely no pop-off. Unknown if he had a ratchet.

If neither it was all show & shine.

 

[wzuber]

No JetAway or pop off Valve. All that money and little to no safety devices like a ratchet.

Or even life jackets for that matter.......
The eng. doesn't look far enough forward to have a jetaway and the still pix in the other thread clearly show no popoff. Very lucky it wasn't worse. I bet the mental anguish that man is going through is horrendous but I hope he learns everything possible from this close encounter from a couple less then ideal choices. Crazy how quickly and easily a good time can turn bad time on the water. Play safe out there folks.

 

[wzuber]

Technically speaking a jetaway/ratchet wouldn't have changed anything here, possible could have allowed him to hit at a slightly faster speed in theory. If the engine was ...Off... the drag from lack of water flow thru the stopped impeller would...likely....have caused quicker deceleration but not a noticable amount. Steering would still be useless w/o thrust.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

I don’t know why the smaller jet boats hate rudders, but we always ran one on our 21.

You don’t have to run the full rudder, cut it down until it’s just enough to provide minor steerage without thrust and at least this situation wouldn’t come up.

 

[lbhsbz]

No way. If he had the safety devices he could steer. Definitely no pop-off. Unknown if he had a ratchet.

If neither it was all show & shine.

None of that shit would let him steer…the thing that will let him steer is under his right foot, but when shit goes sideways, the instinct is to slow down…not mat the pedal.

I had a rudder on a couple jets…they literally did nothing.

 

[rivrrts429]

None of that shit would let him steer…the thing that will let him steer is under his right foot, but when shit goes sideways, the instinct is to slow down…not mat the pedal.

I had a rudder on a couple jets…they literally did nothing.

You’re over your ski tips on this conversation. When you have a catastrophic failure there are safety devices for a reason.

I’ll agree with you that a rudder is useless under any circumstances.

 

[lbhsbz]

You’re over your ski tips on this conversation. When you have a catastrophic failure there are safety devices for a reason.

I’ll agree with you that a rudder is useless under any circumstances.

How would a jetaway allowed him to steer?

 

[mbrown2]

I really worry when people make passes close to the bars like that. Get out in the middle in case something happens or roll into when you’re next to the bar instead of before it. Just my opinion but some day a boat is going to end up inside the bar and innocent people are going to get hurt. I’m all for doing it and love to watch and do it myself though.

When we are at Foxs and someone is making passes I usually tell my wife to take our daughter upstairs.

I feel the same way....try to assess where myself and those with me or standing....particularly the close fly bys...fun to watch but if anything goes sideways it could really bad.

 

[jetboatperformance]

Jet drives (especially with out Rudders) ONLY steer with jet drive thrust and when the engine quits depending on speed will continue to coast and will not steer period . Rudders on jets work are for very low speed maneuvering (5 to 7 mph ) to trailer or dock if the engine quit or he let off abruptly what was seen in the video was bound to happen He could only go along "for the ride" In that scenario He was helpless

 

[Tank]

I really worry when people make passes close to the bars like that. Get out in the middle in case something happens or roll into when you’re next to the bar instead of before it. Just my opinion but some day a boat is going to end up inside the bar and innocent people are going to get hurt. I’m all for doing it and love to watch and do it myself though.

When we are at Foxs and someone is making passes I usually tell my wife to take our daughter upstairs.

Agreed. Sketchy. I always think the same thing at the worlds when the boats are 40’ off the pier running 100 plus on the ragged edge of trim.

 

[jetboatperformance]

I suspect anyone making a hard pass near that dock/landing area is on the edge of legality especially with the obvious "traffic"

Arizona law designates the following dangerous operating practices as illegal.

Speed Restrictions require the operator to maintain a proper speed while operating a vessel. Specifically, it is illegal to:

• Operate a vessel at speeds greater than are reasonable or proper given the existing waterway traffic, persons in the water, and weather conditions.
• Exceed any posted speed limits.
• Operate a vessel at greater than “wakeless speed” in a posted no wake zone.
• Operate a vessel at speeds that may cause injury or damage to any other person, another vessel, or the property of others. This includes causing damage or danger from the wake of your vessel.

Glossary​

“wakeless speed” or “no wake speed”a speed that does not create a wake and is never in excess of five miles per hour

 

[rivrrts429]

How would a jetaway allowed him to steer?

Not necessarily let him steer but he’s not going to hook like he did. Gullwings don’t like to go straight when they quit on the big end. Your nuts to not have a ratchet on them. No way he was aiming for the beach when he was putting it to the wood but that’s exactly what it did.

 

[white tortilla]

 

[RiverDave]

No JetAway or pop off Valve. All that money and little to no safety devices like a ratchet.

Why would ya run either on a recreational boat? Neither of those things would have prevented this either?

 

[RiverDave]

Not necessarily let him steer but he’s not going to hook like he did. Gullwings don’t like to go straight when they quit on the big end. Your nuts to not have a ratchet on them. No way he was aiming for the beach when he was putting it to the wood but that’s exactly what it did.

From What I heard he was doing a u turn hit a big wake and kinda froze up..

Other story going around is he was doing a u turn hit a big wake and lost power and coasted right over the dock and into the wall.

 

[2Driver]

According to the FB post…he went out to make a pass in front of a photographer on the dock, caught a roller from a wakeboard boat and just sorta panicked and went along for the ride after the wake pointed his boat in a different direction.

Plenty of ways to save it potentially, but once his brain realized they were still in the boat and switched over to problem solving mode…just ran outta time.

I’ve been in some hairy situations…and also been pitched out…it sometimes takes a few seconds for the brain to reset.

Wake board boat’s fault I dont know, like the old coyote ran in front of my car.

Hmm, I don't see much of any wake out there big enough to change the direction of the boat. You'd have to be following a boat close then try to exit his wake from behind to get that kind of directional steer. Like OD1 said, stay away doing passes for this reason….you need a bigger margin of error

 

[2Driver]

From What I heard he was doing a u turn hit a big wake and kinda froze up..

Other story going around is he was doing a u turn hit a big wake and lost power and coasted right over the dock and into the wall.

He seems to be with no power. Who knows, arm chair QBing I guess here.

 

[Outdrive1]

He seems to be with no power. Who knows, arm chair QBing I guess here.

My neighbor was in the gift shop and missed it. When he came out there were cops and EMT’s working on someone. I’m guessing the wife got banged up a little

 

[wzuber]

Why would ya run either on a recreational boat? Neither of those things would have prevented this either?

Many of these recreational jet boats are capable of running 90+ mph. Mine ran low 90's w/540" pump gas eng. I ran a jetaway to give me an extra margin of "safety" in the even of an engine failure or stall. As you know when boats instantly decelerate at speed, shit gets sketcy quik and these little boats are rather prone to pitch occupants out or flip. The jetaway allows to impeller to free wheel like a v-drive whirl-away giving the hull a chance to settle in the water w/o the intake digging/scooping water and dumping the bow down harder. They also are convenient for running the eng. On the trailer etc. W/o running the pump dry potentially damaging wear rings and impeller shoulders, stuffer plates etc. on tight tolerance performance pump builds that accompany higher h.p. engines..

 

[PRIMO]

Driver Ran out of Talent.....

 

[wzuber]

My neighbor was in the gift shop and missed it. When he came out there were cops and EMT’s working on someone. I’m guessing the wife got banged up a little

Ya, It appeared to me she likely hit the dash w/legs, hips, chest etc. He'll, Just the fear of the event could cause someone a heart attach. Haha
I hope she is OK. That was scary from the couch. I can only imagine how bad it was in the boat.
F'that..lol

 

[Luvnlife]

Probably a real dumb question…but…why is the engine turned around in the jet boat?

 

[EarpRider]

One more reason to Ban Wake Surf Boats!

 

[n2otoofast4u]

Why would ya run either on a recreational boat? Neither of those things would have prevented this either?

They’re all recreational boats, some just quicker than others!

I run Game Over on the river and run into the 120s every time it gets wet.

That said, ain’t no fkn way I’m putting that bitch in the water mid day on a hot Saturday in Parker!

 

[rivrrts429]

Probably a real dumb question…but…why is the engine turned around in the jet boat?

It’s not. It’s just a rear driven blower. Keeps the worry from your wife or daughter from having her hair caught up in the pulley.

 

[Hermosa]

Probably a real dumb question…but…why is the engine turned around in the jet boat?

Yea, why is that?

 

[Outdrive1]

One more reason to Ban Wake Surf Boats!

This was me a couple hours ago taking my neighbor surfing in his brand new Ski Nautique lol

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Yea, why is that?

They like a challenge changing the blower belt!

 

[jetboatperformance]

Probably a real dumb question…but…why is the engine turned around in the jet boat?

Running the Blower lower pulley off the driveline also increases rear seat space along with the afore mentioned safety factors

 

[ChrisV]

It was definitely rough yesterday at Parker. Even the wife said we shoulda taken the big boat.

 

[Outdrive1]

It was definitely rough yesterday at Parker. Even the wife said we shoulda taken the big boat.

Was sitting with Andy at the show and saw you launch. Then we were eating lunch and it looked like you came back early.

 

[ChrisV]

Was sitting with Andy at the show and saw you launch. Then we were eating lunch and it looked like you came back early.

Yeah my son wanted a little rip before we go home. Plus couple jet skis almost hit us so we just called it quits.

 

[Luvnlife]

It’s not. It’s just a rear driven blower. Keeps the worry from your wife or daughter from having her hair caught up in the pulley.

Thank you. I kinda thought that but…

 

[Luvnlife]

Running the Blower lower pulley off the driveline also increases rear seat space along with the afore mentioned safety factors

Thanks

 

[timstoy]

I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often! People buzzing the dock after a few beers and run out of talent. Could you imagine if he went over the dock and into a group of people! I have seen many steering failures in race conditions and some results are fatal. Years ago at Irvine lake a drag boat lost its steering and ran up on the beach and killed a young girl. She should not have been in the area as it was taped off but the results were the same and I will never forget it. Wayne Herbert bailed out in front of Foxes after hitting his own wake. He was fortunate the boat didn’t chine in and end up on the dock full of people. The faster you go the less time you have to react.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

This was me a couple hours ago taking my neighbor surfing in his brand new Ski Nautique lol View attachment 1436712

You need one of those! I have a stellar one to sell you!

 

[Outdrive1]

You need one of those! I have a stellar one to sell you!

Yeah My wife loved it. this is a 2025, first time in the water. 300k

 

[JFMFG]

View attachment 1436695 Such a bummer that’s. Nice boat

 

[Tank0088]

Yeah not sure what happened and why the boat crashed but he couldn’t have crashed in a better spot. Missed all boats, missed anybody else, hit a wall, and the driver and passenger looked calm through it all.