WTF is wrong with kids today???

[BarryMac]

This kind of action should piss you the fuck off. Every one of these kids needs a good ass kicking by their worthless parents. :swear

Total lack of respect...

 

[ka0tyk]

the bus montior has worked with the school for a very long time. makes peanuts.

"the internet" got ahold of this was were furious... so they decided to do a little tracking down:

http://pastebin.com/cPD4YHxD

http://pastebin.com/1YwCCiZs

a fund was created for donations for her to take a vaction... however its gotten quite out of control. currently it sits at 270k.

http://www.indiegogo.com/loveforkarenhklein?c=home


her kid died some years ago and one of the bullies says "you're so ugly your kids should kill themselves"

 

[scouter]

Totally agree Barry, these brats need a good beating.

In my generation, we were brought up to respect our elders and I think I've done that with my daughter.

These kids have no respect for anything. :thumbsdown

 

[The Doctor]

I saw that too and wondered myself how such disrespect could happen? As a child, I occasionally acted up in class (imagine that) and was punished sternly for my actions. When I got home it only got worse for me. I learned, early on that rules, boundaries, standards, morals, etc. ruled the day. It worked so well that we used the same program in our home raising our six kids with great success.

I fear that discipline and regimentation is being replaced with the value of individual expression and that parents are more worried about being best friends than parents. Maybe it's just my point of view but I believe what one wise man said.

"No other success can compensate for failure in the home."

 

[RitcheyRch]

I completely agree. I imagine now that it has gone viral on the news that the parents will do something about it.

Totally agree Barry, these brats need a good beating.

In my generation, we were brought up to respect our elders and I think I've done that with my daughter.

These kids have no respect for anything. :thumbsdown

 

[renodaytona]

Kids now a days are rediculoius. I have two teenage boys and if they acted like that they would get a good ass whoppin by me. When I give them "the look" they know they are doing something wrong and imeddiately straighten up.

 

[Carlson-jet]

You get a goddamn job before sundown, or we're shipping you off to military school with that goddamn Finkelstein shit kid! Son of a bitch!

[video=youtube;I5edUp237fs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5edUp237fs[/video]

 

[ka0tyk]

Kids now a days are rediculoius. I have two teenage boys and if they acted like that they would get a good ass whoppin by me. When I give them "the look" they know they are doing something wrong and imeddiately straighten up.

what about when you're not there and they're whipped up into a frenzy on a bus around a bunch of their peers? if anything the bus monitor lady didnt do much monitoring... she even let some of the kids put their hands on her. my fiancee's mom and friends are all in education, and some have had kids take swings or throw objects at them. its all ended up in kids going away in handcuffs. the monitor should have had the bus pull over and done something about it. you MUST maintain control.

 

[McRib]

The news needs to put the parents on blast. Do a report with full name blast. Lil johnny shitbag, son of daddy and mommy shitbag of anytown usa was caught on tape doing..... Roll the footage cameraman. Name every kid and parent and embarass them on the news. Fuck those parents!

 

[renodaytona]

what about when you're not there and they're whipped up into a frenzy on a bus around a bunch of their peers? if anything the bus monitor lady didnt do much monitoring... she even let some of the kids put their hands on her. my fiancee's mom and friends are all in education, and some have had kids take swings or throw objects at them. its all ended up in kids going away in handcuffs. the monitor should have had the bus pull over and done something about it. you MUST maintain control.

My kids don't ride the bus were lucky to live within bike riding/walking distance to the schools in our area. If they act up in class we hear about it directly from their teaches and they are diciplined accordingly which has only happened once to the older one.

 

[renodaytona]

The news needs to put the parents on blast. Do a report with full name blast. Lil johnny shitbag, son of daddy and mommy shitbag of anytown usa was caught on tape doing..... Roll the footage cameraman. Name every kid and parent and embarass them on the news. Fuck those parents!

Totally...

 

[Scott E]

I imagine now that it has gone virla on the news that the parents will do something about it.

Sadly, I doubt the parents will do anything. They'll just chalk it up to their child being mis-understood or being caught up in the actions of others. These are the same type of parents whose kids act out in restaurants and they say gosh, this is the first time they have acted this way. BULLSHIT!

A friend of mine and I were discussing the behavior of children today. HE had an interesting take that one of the problems may very well be the prosperity of the US over the years. After a few generations of prosperity and parents working hard to provide for their kids so that life is easier for them the successive generations forget, hell never know, what sacrifices were made before them to provide what they currently have. That environment, along with a lack of parenting and too lax discipline result in a generation of inconsiderate little fucks that act like assholes from the time they're 5.

Admittedly, that is a very broad generalization as not all kids are like this. However, it seems to be more the norm than the exception.

Nothing will change until we instill a sense of personal responsibility in people. Actions have consequences...

 

[BarryMac]

what about when you're not there and they're whipped up into a frenzy on a bus around a bunch of their peers? if anything the bus monitor lady didnt do much monitoring... she even let some of the kids put their hands on her. my fiancee's mom and friends are all in education, and some have had kids take swings or throw objects at them. its all ended up in kids going away in handcuffs. the monitor should have had the bus pull over and done something about it. you MUST maintain control.

Yup, it's the 68 year old ladies fault that these kids are a smaller version of their douchebag parents...

 

[ka0tyk]

My kids don't ride the bus were lucky to live within bike riding/walking distance to the schools in our area. If they act up in class we hear about it directly from their teaches and they are diciplined accordingly which has only happened once to the older one.

good deal... many dont. i hear way too many stories about how teachers are more "discipliners" than "educators" these days.

 

[DaytonaBabe]

So scary that this is "the norm" these days. It made me so sad to watch that. I can't believe that people wish to be so hurtful towards one another.

 

[ka0tyk]

Yup, it's the 68 year old ladies fault that these kids are a smaller version of their douchebag parents...

not saying its her fault but if your job is to maintain control on a bus filled with kids you dont sit there with your arms crossed and cry while a group of 5+ kids hit you and say a bunch of negative things. would she just sit there if they started doing it to another kid? what if they hit another kid? sure its ultimately the parents blame but shes there to maintain control on the bus. not sit there and enjoy the view and cry.

 

[Captain Dan]

not saying its her fault but if your job is to maintain control on a bus filled with kids you dont sit there with your arms crossed and cry while a group of 5+ kids hit you and say a bunch of negative things. would she just sit there if they started doing it to another kid? what if they hit another kid? sure its ultimately the parents blame but shes there to maintain control on the bus. not sit there and enjoy the view and cry.

I totally agree - how could any self-respecting person sit there and take that shit from some bratty kids when they are supposed to be in charge? Stop that bus and handle it. Fuckin bratty kids will continue to rule if you don't call them on their bullshit.

 

[JMC]

Wrong person for a bus monitor. Im not saying she wasnt doing her job, but WTF can a bus monitor do.....especially in friggin Cal ! They need someone that will put those little fockers in their place and go ahead and set up a full time video so the parent can get copy when the little shits act up. And hey, the punishment will be no more bus rides. You walk your ass to school and walk your ass home or your worthless parents can take you and then come and get you. END OF STORY

 

[mariley85]

if these were my kids, i'd give them one big sweeping backhand that would leave a bruise a la tommy boy.

 

[RUNNINHOTRACING163.1]

The news needs to put the parents on blast. Do a report with full name blast. Lil johnny shitbag, son of daddy and mommy shitbag of anytown usa was caught on tape doing..... Roll the footage cameraman. Name every kid and parent and embarass them on the news. Fuck those parents!

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[rivermobster]

The news needs to put the parents on blast. Do a report with full name blast. Lil johnny shitbag, son of daddy and mommy shitbag of anytown usa was caught on tape doing..... Roll the footage cameraman. Name every kid and parent and embarass them on the news. Fuck those parents!

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[shintoooo]

Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Wrong person for a bus monitor. Im not saying she wasnt doing her job, but WTF can a bus monitor do.....especially in friggin Cal ! They need someone that will put those little fockers in their place and go ahead and set up a full time video so the parent can get copy when the little shits act up. And hey, the punishment will be no more bus rides. You walk your ass to school and walk your ass home or your worthless parents can take you and then come and get you. END OF STORY

Yet the minute anyone grabs little Johnny or Sally by the arm the lousy parents cry foul when anyone tries control their little yard apes, or as the parents like to call them my little "angel".

Call out the parent publicly along with the kids here or nothing gets done.

Back in my day the old ladies were tough as nails and would drive the bus right up to your house and walk in with the kid and tell the parents why their kid WONT be riding the bus for 6 weeks.

A couple weeks of picking up and droppping off their brats on their work time usually makes the parents straighten the little fuckers right out.

Uncle Dave

 

[mariley85]

Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child.

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[River Lynchmob]

I saw that too and wondered myself how such disrespect could happen? As a child, I occasionally acted up in class (imagine that) and was punished sternly for my actions. When I got home it only got worse for me. I learned, early on that rules, boundaries, standards, morals, etc. ruled the day. It worked so well that we used the same program in our home raising our six kids with great success.

I fear that discipline and regimentation is being replaced with the value of individual expression and that parents are more worried about being best friends than parents. Maybe it's just my point of view but I believe what one wise man said.

"No other success can compensate for failure in the home."

Agree 100%...my moms line to me as a kid...I'm not your friend...I'm your mother and I really dont care if you hate me now, you will understand that when you get older...got a smack or 5 off she went and now I have more respect for that woman than anyone would know.

 

[plaster dave]

I couldn't get past 30 sec. :thumbsdown:thumbsdown
We are doomed as a nation if we dont fix these kids.

 

[Tremor Therapy]

A friend of mine and I were discussing the behavior of children today. HE had an interesting take that one of the problems may very well be the prosperity of the US over the years. After a few generations of prosperity and parents working hard to provide for their kids so that life is easier for them the successive generations forget, hell never know, what sacrifices were made before them to provide what they currently have...

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. I have posted many times on here about my daughter (now 19) and in many cases it isn't the parenting. Just one example: My daughter got suspended for cutting classes in 10th grade. So, once suspension is over, I drive her to her school and walk her into her first class. I wait sometimes until she is in her second class, but lets not lose sight of the fact I have to work to earn a living. So I finally leave to go to work 65 miles away, and half way into the drive I get a call that she has left the campus. So all of you parenting experts, what do you do now?

This occured for months, and we did all the usual, took away the cell phone, no bedroom door, no money for anything, counseling, etc, etc, etc, and the behavior got progressivedly worse. I will tell you that the entitlement mentality is so bad I want to puke.

I will also tell you another thing and don't think your kid is immune...drugs are so pervasive in the schools that it is not even funny. My daughter used to tell me stories about the kids hustling pot in middle school, and many other worse drugs once she got to high school. It was only recently I found out that my daughter had friends smoking heroin in high school!

I know many of you will have a lot to say, keep them involved, watch their friends, blah, blah, blah, and we did everything and anything and it did not matter, she will be what she will be until she hits bottom.


Edit: And BTW, for those of you that think physical punishment will work, "spare the rod spoil the child"...you are a kidding yourself. My daughter came home one day in 10th grade and told me to f*ck off. I slapped her face and spanked her with a belt like the 3 year old she was acting like. Do you know what I got for it, she climbed out her window, walked into the Murrieta police station and told them I had beat her.....that was a bitchen 3 month ordeal, and it f*cked up our lives for the past 3 years as she didn't fear any punishment. Thankfully my son isn't cut from the same mold, and is doing really well. I know how hard I have worked with all of my kids, and sometimes you just can't make a difference after a certain point in time. They have to learn for themselves.

 

[The Doctor]

A couple of observations from my limited view:
* A Bus monitor should not be blamed for disrespect of others. She's a minimum wage earner with literally no authority to take matters into her hands and stopping the bus would take her off schedule, further inflaming people about her ability to perform her job. It wasn't her fault!!!
* The pendulum has swung way beyond center with regards to reported abuse and the ability of those in authority to scold - especially in our schools. The spankings that made the greatest impact in my life could land a parent in jail in today's society or a teacher or principal could lose their careers. A very close friend of mine grounded his daughter due to disrespect so she called CPS from her room and claimed physical abuse. The father was removed from his own home in less than an hour, the child was temporarily placed in a relative's custody where she quickly admitted she made a big mistake by falsely claiming abuse to the authorities and the relatives by lying about the abuse. She was never returned to their home, my friend spent two years trying to clear his good name despite never being charged with any crime at all, and the family ultimately had to move away due to the treatment he received in his own circle of friends due to the questions that loomed from the possibility of his being a child abuser despite her coming clean the same day she made the grand mistake of calling to get her father in trouble over being grounded. This situation was a crying shame!
* I coached football for 14 years and believe the biggest problem I faced was that far too many of the households of these kids I coached were a single parent household. I quickly found how much they craved a solid father figure so I often would sit a player, who was not applying himself in school (after consulting with the mother, of course) which almost always proved to be a solution to an ongoing problem these kids faced. Some completed homework assignments instead of taking the field at practice and some even missed games to motivate them to pick up their grades. They wanted direction and discipline it seemed as the success rate of such experiments were very high. I was thanked often by struggling single mothers and since I have, many times, met up with a former player who thanked me for being a strong influence in their lives in the absence of a father figure. I do understand that some marriages don't work out after a great deal of effort but I also believe many could easily be saved with great effort. Both my parents and my wife's parents were divorced so we had two strikes against us, then we were married immediately out of high school. No less that a gagillion times were either or both of us justified in calling it quits but, for some strange reason, we hung in there and 42 years later I can't imagine wanting anything more out of life than for that wonderful women, I get to call my wife, to be happy. It was seldom easy but it has proven always worth every effort it took. I think many marriages could've survived like we did with a little more effort and the kids would surely stand a better chance of being taught correct principals with both loving parents. I'll admit that's only my opinion but it comes from personal experience on all sides.

 

[spectra3279]

Gooberment needs to get the hell out of our lives. Its that simple. Quit robbing my paycheck and clean your own fucking house!

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[Warlock1]

Edit: And BTW, for those of you that think physical punishment will work, "spare the rod spoil the child"...you are a kidding yourself. My daughter came home one day in 10th grade and told me to f*ck off. I slapped her face and spanked her with a belt like the 3 year old she was acting like. Do you know what I got for it, she climbed out her window, walked into the Murrieta police station and told them I had beat her.....that was a bitchen 3 month ordeal, and it f*cked up our lives for the past 3 years as she didn't fear any punishment. Thankfully my son isn't cut from the same mold, and is doing really well. I know how hard I have worked with all of my kids, and sometimes you just can't make a difference after a certain point in time. They have to learn for themselves.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts on this exactly. After a certain time they already have things figured out. I raised my kids that as soon as they could communicate the butt whippins started. The first things that children learn is manipulation. When they cry they get something. I want food, I cry. I want sleep, I cry. I want changed, I cry. They learn very quickly what they can get by throwing tantrums, especially in public where most parents won't discipline. That damn sure didn't work for me. I would square them away right in front of anybody, simply didn't matter. And for me it worked. I could take them into a store and they hung by my side and never acted up at all while we would see other kids ripping stuff from the shelves. Yelling and crying at their parents because they wanted something. My kids would look up at me to see my reaction and I would ask them what do you think I would do if that were you doing that. They would just smile and shake their heads.
My youngest is growing up (he's 15 today) without a Dad in the house and he is the opposite of my oldest kids. He's into sports and generally a good kid but he has been spoiled by his Mom and has that attitude of I only want the best and I'll do what I want.
Take it for what it is worth, but this worked back in the day at least it did for me.

 

[Kachina26]

update

Capt. Steve Chatterton of the Greece, N.Y., Police Department. ?Their families have been threatened. Their brothers and sisters have been threatened,? he said at a press conference Thursday.

 

[ka0tyk]

the donation account is over HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

 

[spectra3279]

Edit: And BTW, for those of you that think physical punishment will work, "spare the rod spoil the child"...you are a kidding yourself. My daughter came home one day in 10th grade and told me to f*ck off. I slapped her face and spanked her with a belt like the 3 year old she was acting like. Do you know what I got for it, she climbed out her window, walked into the Murrieta police station and told them I had beat her.....that was a bitchen 3 month ordeal, and it f*cked up our lives for the past 3 years as she didn't fear any punishment. Thankfully my son isn't cut from the same mold, and is doing really well. I know how hard I have worked with all of my kids, and sometimes you just can't make a difference after a certain point in time. They have to learn for themselves.

My thoughts on this exactly. After a certain time they already have things figured out. I raised my kids that as soon as they could communicate the butt whippins started. The first things that children learn is manipulation. When they cry they get something. I want food, I cry. I want sleep, I cry. I want changed, I cry. They learn very quickly what they can get by throwing tantrums, especially in public where most parents won't discipline. That damn sure didn't work for me. I would square them away right in front of anybody, simply didn't matter. And for me it worked. I could take them into a store and they hung by my side and never acted up at all while we would see other kids ripping stuff from the shelves. Yelling and crying at their parents because they wanted something. My kids would look up at me to see my reaction and I would ask them what do you think I would do if that were you doing that. They would just smile and shake their heads.
My youngest is growing up (he's 15 today) without a Dad in the house and he is the opposite of my oldest kids. He's into sports and generally a good kid but he has been spoiled by his Mom and has that attitude of I only want the best and I'll do what I want.
Take it for what it is worth, but this worked back in the day at least it did for me.[/QUOTE]

That's what I'm getting at the goobers have made it illegal to punish your kids.

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[Kylemenz1]

The only thing that lady should have gotten is FIRED! Her job was to remain control of the kids on the bus, and make sure it is a safe environment for all the kids. She failed.

 

[Chuck Corn]

The only thing that lady should have gotten is FIRED! Her job was to remain control of the kids on the bus, and make sure it is a safe environment for all the kids. She failed.

I dont believe she failed, they System has failed us. The government and states have taken the tools out of the parents and teacher's and anyone in that type of position's hands. I have never in my life acted out like that as a child or an adult. It makes me want to uke:

 

[RiverDave]

The only thing that lady should have gotten is FIRED! Her job was to remain control of the kids on the bus, and make sure it is a safe environment for all the kids. She failed.

I don't know what abilities they have anymore... but I kinda think the same thing? Even with zero authority and just verbage and being an adult she should be able to maintain some kind of order on the bus? Sitting there being a victim is like dropping blood on a feeding frenzy of sharks?

Now she's gonna get (at this rate) 1.5 million dollars for it? They are at 570K right now and it's been up for 10 days.. Stays open for another 28? If it continues to spread virally maybe even more?

RD

 

[The Doctor]

I'm thinking some here need to teach a semester of middle school and see exactly what kind of crap they are up against while having both hands tied behind their backs.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Just read on TMZ that the kids tried to apologize and she is NOT accepting them.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/22/karen-klein-bus-monitor-tmz-live-does-not-accept-apology/

Karen Klein tells TMZ ... she DOES NOT accept the apologies issued by the kids who taunted her on a NY school bus ... claiming "I think they can do better."

Two of the devil children penned letters of apology to the 68-year-old bus monitor ... after the video went viral this week. Klein also got a letter from the parents of a boy who participated in the incident.

But Karen and her daughter just called in to "TMZ Live" ... saying they're just not ready to forgive.

Klein also says she has a few suggestions about how the kids should be punished.

Klein says she's blown away by the outpouring of support she's received -- and has already come up with a few ideas on how to spend the hundreds of thousands of dollars people have donated to her.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

There is plenty wrong here.
This gal trying to hold on to a job she is no longer able to do at 68 years old is a by-product of the problem.
The fact that we have kids who do this is a symptom of the problem.
The problem started many years ago. I am 53, and while my parents only had to put the whack to me once or twice before I got it, the "trendy" people in the education system were already shifting away from explaining the rules of behavior, demonstrating by their own actions, and holding kids accountable.
This was fine with parents who wanted to be trendy, and were far more interested in being friends with their offspring than being the parents nature intended.

A few generations later we have parents raised without discipline, without responsibility, and without consequences who have raised and continue to bring forth children incapable of living in a free society.
And, we have people raised in those times now running what is absurdly referred to as the public school system.

I saw this whole mess in action when I was in uniform.

In short, we have reaped what we've sown. Anyone who thinks this can be changed overnight is mistaken.
The change must begin at home, with parents who hold children to standards, and who insist on the school doing the same thing. Monitoring homework, consequences for report cards, engaged at parent teacher conferences, demanding quality education accountability at school board meetings...etc.

In essence, getting involved, staying involved, and not taking no for an answer when it comes to fixing this mess.

To be real honest with you guys, I don't know if the masses have the willpower or desire to do it. The people that can are rushing to private education like never before. They will produce the citizens of the future.
However, unless we fix public education and find some way to hold parents accountable too... those future citizens will deal with another failed generation of kids like the ones who did this...
just the tip of the iceberg, my friends.

 

[The Doctor]

In some cases it's precisely the parents' fault. I built a custom home years ago and another broke ground next door after we moved in.
I heard big banging noises in the home under construction around 6:00 PM long after the drywall crew left so I went over to check it out. There was a brat kid (12 or so) kicking holes in the drywall all throughout the house and I caught him.
He tried to escape to no avail and I insisted he tell me where he lived. He called me every foul name in the book and made it clear that he would tell me nothing so I marched him out the front door and started toward my house when he asked me what I was doing. I replied that as long as he was unwilling to give me his address, I was going to take him home and bury him alive in my back yard so society wouldn't have to deal with such a worthless brat as he was to which he promptly told me his address. I marched him home (one street away) despite many times trying to break free unsuccessfully and rang his doorbell. His mother opened the door, saw her son and grabbed him from me and screamed "get your hands off my son! He didn't do anything wrong!" and slammed the door in my face.

I didn't only blame the kid from that point. I told the contractor and he said it was far easier to just re-rock the home than it was to deal with worthless parents of worthless kids. What's a couple thousand anyway?

I'm not going to blame the bus lady.

 

[cnj]

The only thing that lady should have gotten is FIRED! Her job was to remain control of the kids on the bus, and make sure it is a safe environment for all the kids. She failed.

Wake up.

 

[cnj]

Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child.

This, right here.

 

[Canuck 1]

I don't think the question is if she can do her job or not... the question is respect. These kids show no respect or restraint. Welcome to the "me" society. Beat the little fuckers and they will learn respect, start with their parents if needed

 

[Sleek-Jet]

The only thing that lady should have gotten is FIRED! Her job was to remain control of the kids on the bus, and make sure it is a safe environment for all the kids. She failed.

I don't know what abilities they have anymore... but I kinda think the same thing? Even with zero authority and just verbage and being an adult she should be able to maintain some kind of order on the bus? Sitting there being a victim is like dropping blood on a feeding frenzy of sharks?

Now she's gonna get (at this rate) 1.5 million dollars for it? They are at 570K right now and it's been up for 10 days.. Stays open for another 28? If it continues to spread virally maybe even more?

RD

Your Honor... as can be seen in the video, the defendant was bullying, intimidating, and threatening to my client's child, who was mearly being a gragarious 12 year old. She obviously is abusing the power of her position. We seek damages blah blah blah...

Kids are savy these days... I'll bet a case of Bud Lite Limes that they had plans if she did react, hense the video.

 

[AZJD]

This kind of action should piss you the fuck off. Every one of these kids needs a good ass kicking by their worthless parents. :swear

Total lack of respect...

Kids raising kids.