Would you like to supersize that?

[HB2Havasu]

What I don't understand is why are fast food workers now more valuable than other entry level jobs? This is just going to drive the cost of everything higher. For instance the Machine Shop I work at we usually bring in guys with zero experience and start them at the bottom cleaning chips and sweeping floors. We usually pay the current minimum wage considering they have zero marketable skills and train them to work themselves up the chain. Now if we have to pay these people $20 per hour to compete with fast food jobs every machinist is going to want a 25% increase. This kind of nonsense compiled with $7 gas prices is going to drive inflation into double digit territory in 2024.

 

[brecht]

Everyone wants a piece

 

[YeahYeah01]

What I don't understand is why are fast food workers now more valuable than other entry level jobs? This is just going to drive the cost of everything higher. For instance the Machine Shop I work at we usually bring in guys with zero experience and start them at the bottom cleaning chips and sweeping floors. We usually pay the current minimum wage considering they have zero marketable skills and train them to work themselves up the chain. Now if we have to pay these people $20 per hour to compete with fast food jobs every machinist is going to want a 25% increase. This kind of nonsense compiled with $7 gas prices is going to drive inflation into double digit territory in 2024.

I was just thinking about this. Let's be real, not everyone is college bound or destine for a high level management position, but there is plenty of trades or specialty jobs where you can make really good money without degrees or management. Unless you become a store management of a fast food joint or one of the other few steps up, what is your future there? You are going to trap people in the $20 job that does not have much run way. While the kid sweeping your floors could take several paths to a very solid career even outside of management, but instead they take the initial higher pay job not thinking about their future.

 

[Chili Palmer]

I was just thinking about this. Let's be real, not everyone is college bound or destine for a high level management position, but there is plenty of trades or specialty jobs where you can make really good money without degrees or management. Unless you become a store management of a fast food joint or one of the other few steps up, what is your future there? You are going to trap people in the $20 job that does not have much run way. While the kid sweeping your floors could take several paths to a very solid career even outside of management, but instead they take the initial higher pay job not thinking about their future.

This is what happens when you get rid of the auto shop, wood shop, welding shop, electrical shop, photography, etc. Not everyone is college material and without these classes being offered, they killed millions of kids futures.

 

[monkeyswrench]

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Everyone wants a piece

Both our local Ford and GM dealers have notified shops up here.

F' em....I get to hang a 6.0 Chevy together next week. Saves the customer money as well.

 

[petie6464]

This morning I got 2 cups of coffee from Dutch Bros in Havasu. $16 later. More wages go up the more expensive stuff gets.

All coffee joints are a joke but people keep coming and taking it in the keister...

 

[TrollerDave]

It is amazing that they have the highest quality and most affordable menu.

I think it’s the simplicity of the menu. 1 style of Burger, 1 style of fries, 3 simple classic flavor of shakes, that’s it. Most places are trying to be the Golden Corral buffet of fast food, waste of money.

 

[Daycruzin]

More govt handouts. These people need a hand up and need to be taught how to advance in life on their own.

Next up $30 an hr. Where does it stop? It doesn't. Not until the great Communist wealth transfer is complete. At that point, we no longer have a country.

 

[SoCalDave]

Or you could get in at In-N-Out and work your way up to area manager and earn $180k year + benefits.

 

[Cole Trickle]

In and Out is still in a good position. They already pay close to that new minimum.

Nobody is leaving in and out to go to a different fastfood joint for the same $$$. Knowing in and out they will still give the employees a little more.

Every other entry level position that is non food is screwed. You will see a mass exodus from the $15.5 an hour at the mall or oil change place to fast food for that extra $4 an hour.

 

[YeahYeah01]

Or you could get in at In-N-Out and work your way up to area manager and earn $180k year + benefits.

Ya they are on another level lol

 

[jet496]

Here comes the "I can make 20$ an hour at McDonals" Conversations

My answer " Then go work at McDonalds"

We had a service tech talking shit with some guys at our office and my son, the owner, was rigth next to them. He said "I can go anywhere tomorrow & probably make more so I never worry about my job". Couple months later we fired his ass for other reasons & he was begging for his job. My son said "don't worry you can go get another job tomorrow making more". Of course he filed for unemployment LOL.

This will start playing out more as shit hits the fan with people's money running out & inflation.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What I don't understand is why are fast food workers now more valuable than other entry level jobs? This is just going to drive the cost of everything higher. For instance the Machine Shop I work at we usually bring in guys with zero experience and start them at the bottom cleaning chips and sweeping floors. We usually pay the current minimum wage considering they have zero marketable skills and train them to work themselves up the chain. Now if we have to pay these people $20 per hour to compete with fast food jobs every machinist is going to want a 25% increase. This kind of nonsense compiled with $7 gas prices is going to drive inflation into double digit territory in 2024.

These people are the easiest to leverage a UBI (Universal Basic Income) scheme on. Give it another 8-10 years.

“These poor mothers are being automated out of a job and can’t feed their families”.

 

[SoCalDave]

Ya they are on another level lol

The highest payed employee of your local In-N-Out is the guy flipping the burgers. Out this month is Lynsi Snider's paper back " The in and outs of In-n-Out". Interesting read and a very sharp down to earth woman. Matter of fact we'll be out a Pamona in 3 weeks to celebrate with her!

 

[YeahYeah01]

The highest payed employee of your local In-N-Out is the guy flipping the burgers. Out this month is Lynsi Snider's paper back " The in and outs of In-n-Out". Interesting read and a very sharp down to earth woman. Matter of fact we'll be out a Pamona in 3 weeks to celebrate with her!

 

[YeahYeah01]

The highest payed employee of your local In-N-Out is the guy flipping the burgers. Out this month is Lynsi Snider's paper back " The in and outs of In-n-Out". Interesting read and a very sharp down to earth woman. Matter of fact we'll be out a Pamona in 3 weeks to celebrate with her!

I've heard good things.

My cousin is a painter for them. They gave him an opportunity when he was around 19 and had him in his own van shortly after. He loves it.

 

[Singleton]

When did shit change. Fast food jobs are for high school, college kids, or the ‘I need a job to get a job folks’ that needed to make a few bucks to pay for beer come Friday night. It was never meant to be a full time job that supports a family.

$20 entry level job = automation in order entry
automation = folks will be unemployed
unemployed = Newscum says ‘we need to support those that can support their family‘
that is how NewScum gets to universal basic income

He needs those 500k votes

 

[badgas]

All coffee joints are a joke but people keep coming and taking it in the keister...

And the coffee sucks !

I make coffee at home with a chemex or aero press because it's really good.

The major cash saved is great byproduct.

 

[DaveC]

No problem…. Just pass the cost onto the consumer……. The consumer and taxpayer are stupid anyway so they won’t do anything….. see gas prices

 

[Sleek-Jet]

CA just bumped all HS kids and illegal immigrants out of jobs, potentially.

There is robots for my industry. I can buy a $300k robot that will run for 10 years and replace 3-4 laborers in the shop. 4X$40k=$160,000X10=$1,600,000-$300,000=$1.3M in savings over 10 years. Yes, robots can flip burgers and fry fries. Soon enough it will be a freaking vending machine in CA. You'll drive up or walk in and order on the app or at the screen and it will just pop out onto the counter and you'll never see anybody.

Good job CA. Another unsuccessful solution that only makes poor people poorer. Buying votes by keeping victims.

You mean like this?

 

[zhandfull]

For whatever it’s worth. My family has found that fast food is more expensive in Lake Havasu than S. California.

 

[Desert Whaler]

I remember out of high school, (1988) … we’d pick up a laborer for $40/day … lunch if they didn’t bring one.

Then it went to $50 & lunch assumed.
Then $60 … then straight to $100.

I quit using them when they wanted $150-$200 plus lunch, a drive home, & be done by 2:00.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I remember out of high school, (1988) … we’d pick up a laborer for $40/day … lunch if they didn’t bring one.

Then it went to $50 & lunch assumed.
Then $60 … then straight to $100.

I quit using them when they wanted $150-$200 plus lunch, a drive home, & be done by 2:00.

I had guys that were my go to shinglers. I could do it, but these boys were fast! 300$ each per day, breakfast burritos before startup, burgers at noon. These guys would work until sundown, but if they were done at 2 or 3, all the same pay. They were great guys, Jack FM on the radio because it was the happy medium, and also only spoke English when homeowners were around.

 

[Desert Whaler]

I had guys that were my go to shinglers. I could do it, but these boys were fast! 300$ each per day, breakfast burritos before startup, burgers at noon. These guys would work until sundown, but if they were done at 2 or 3, all the same pay. They were great guys, Jack FM on the radio because it was the happy medium, and also only spoke English when homeowners were around.

We got to talking to a couple of our ‘regulars’.
At that time … there was 6 of them renting a shitty 1 bedroom apartment in Costa Mesa … so rent per guy was minimal. Making cash every day & not paying any taxes … they were wiring most of what they made via Western Union back home to Mexico. They all had plans for how long they’d need to be here till they made enough to go back home.

 

[monkeyswrench]

We got to talking to a couple of our ‘regulars’.
At that time … there was 6 of them renting a shitty 1 bedroom apartment in Costa Mesa … so rent per guy was minimal. Making cash every day & not paying any taxes … they were wiring most of what they made via Western Union back home to Mexico. They all had plans for how long they’d need to be here till they made enough to go back home.

These guys I used were fully legit...even had a token white guy . It was "kinda" legal...they were on the books for 8 at 25$ an hour, then a C-note out of my wallet. In all reality, they cost me close to 500$ day each, not counting the food bill. I had to have them "on the books" if something bad happened. In roofing, something bad can cost you everything real quick. I had seen other guys do it shady and have to start over. I was afraid of that, but never had an issue. Twice I had guys that could have made my life hell really be cool. I don't know if guys like that are on the job anymore, seems like a lot of the workers would just nail you for a free ride