Whats your take on this?

[Bpracing1127]

In southern Utah they built a bike path (paved and about 12 ft wide) along the road going into town (St. George). the ass hats bike riders don't use it, they ride in the road instead.

exactly cant fix stupid

 

[Boatymcboatface]

There’s a “bike lane”!

 

[Wheeler]

bikers got what they deserved, there is a bike lane absolutely no reason for you the be in the car traffic lane.

At least the cyclist and friends are ok and the jack wagon in the coach didn't kill anyone.

 

[playdeep]

I bet they all have sea doos

...and play soccer.

 

[FlyByWire]

There are dickhead cops out there that would love to see this situation and site you no matter what decision you made. If they would have been in their lane and no one would have gotten hurt.

Easy bro, I’m right here.

 

[J&k beer can]

When will the dummies bicycles learn.. your are not going to win on the highway... . so stay away from roadway regardless of the law..
Seems pretty smart to me to follow that rule.... share the lane what a joke..
but but but i have the right away with broken bones or worse..

 

[4Waters]

At least the cyclist and friends are ok and the jack wagon in the coach didn't kill anyone.

This is actually the big picture, I just hope all parties learned something

 

[Wheeler]

This is actually the big picture, I just hope all parties learned something

Along with the people here that may have been made more aware of these types of situations and remember to take a little more time if they come across cyclists on the road.

 

[Joker]

Along with the people here that may have been made more aware of these types of situations and remember to take a little more time if they come across cyclists on the road.

Will your next screen name be 2 Wheeler?

 

[Todd Mohr]

Sometimes you just have to slowdown for the cyclists, however if they continue to impede your progress when there is plenty of bike lane to use, I would hold my horn until they moved out of my way. I cannot think of a time I've had to do that, everyone always seemed to respect not getting run over.

 

[Wheeler]

Will your next screen name be 2 Wheeler?

 

[Gelcoater]

My deal is just make room or wait the bikehole out a bit.

Is all you really can do.
I know a bunch of people in Colorado, they have a disdain for road bikers while being mountain bikers.

Do some of the reasons mentioned here and other skinny tire asshole hating threads.

They wait it out, and of the biker is cool or shows any sign of making an attempt to give the driver room, they just pass.
However.

If the biker is an asshole, or gives them the bird or something.
Again they wait. And when safe to do so pass the bike.
But they are rolling fuggin coal when they do.
Up there?
Their diesel tuners go to 11.

 

[Wheeler]

Sometimes you just have to slowdown for the cyclists, however if they continue to impede your progress when there is plenty of bike lane to use, I would hold my horn until they moved out of my way. I cannot think of a time I've had to do that, everyone always seemed to respect not getting run over.

While following slow vehicles if my stress level starts to climb I just slow way down until I can find a place to pass. I've yet to have a close call on rice road or any other road. At times I would like to have had a train horn but why. Cyclist and joggers I give a wide berth.

 

[Your ad here]

Bicyclist was not in their lane and in a lane for motor vehicle as well as not going the speed limit in that lane. Bicyclist is at fault. If motor vehicle came into bike lane and struck bicyclist then motor vehicle is at fault. The shit I absolutely do not understand is why anyone would challenge a car or truck. Hopefully this guy learned a lesson from the bullshit he pulled that he was putting others lives in danger as well as his.

 

[Outdrive1]

The cyclists 2/3 wide is an asshole. Does he deserve to get hit? Absolutely not. RV driver should be charged with assault. That was a douche move.

 

[jeteater1]

40 plus years ago I played also soccer at the fields outside the Rosebowl. Them fucks thinking they were the Tour de France , blocking the road racing 5 or 6 wide . Awesome to see bikes flying through the air as a ball went out in the street.

 

[Todd Mohr]

While following slow vehicles if my stress level starts to climb I just slow way down until I can find a place to pass. I've yet to have a close call on rice road or any other road. At times I would like to have had a train horn but why. Cyclist and joggers I give a wide berth.

You are a responsible adult sir.

 

[Wheeler]

You are a responsible adult sir.

Let's not get carried away here. I'm just getting old.

 

[Todd Mohr]

Let's not get carried away here. I'm just getting old.

I got ahead of myself, sorry.....

 

[Outdrive1]

Let's not get carried away here. I'm just getting old.

Getting

 

[ka0tyk]

law is to share the road... where the bicyclist was, oncoming traffic, etc is all irrelevant. RV is at fault obviously. You cant just go mowing people down because they're in your lane. If that was a car 2' into the lane do you just continue full speed and ram through a car? No.

No matter how much the bicyclist is right... you're arguing against a 20000lb vehicle at 55+ mph. You cant argue your side when you're buried in the ground. So dont put yourself in that situation.

 

[monkeyswrench]

If the driver was trying to buzz the bikers, true dipshit. I'd be curious of the age of driver, and experience with a coach. The thing I see around here, people get out of their BMW and get behind the wheel of a 102" wide box, with mirrors pushed out to 118+. Then, they drive the same distance from centerline...

On the highways, te rumblestrips keep them in their lanes. 2 lanes, like 89a here to Jerome, you can tell who is comfortable behind the wheel of bigger vehicles.

Oh, and riding 3 wide, out of the bike lane, is not the brightest idea. Should be treated the same as crossing lines into traffic. The leaf lickers in flagpole may crucify the guy though.

 

[Wheeler]

Getting

 

[crzy2bealive]

I love cycling but I stick to the Santa gabriel/ coyote creek river bed trail from Cerritos to seal beach.

I don’t really like going on the street anymore

 

[stokerwhore]

this reminds me i need to work on my bowling skills. that is all. carry on....

 

[stevesdcb]

I’ll bite. Williamson Valley road, a 2 lane road running North & South out of Prescott. Speed limit is posted at 50 mph but is often driven at 55 plus. Limited areas for vehicles to pass. Road is approximately 20 miles long. 90% of the road has no bike lanes.

There have been some serious vehicle accidents on the road the last 3 years. T-bone accidents from cross traffic & rear end collisions from
vehicles turning on to side roads.

Throw in the bicyclists who don’t have a bike lane to ride in & can’t keep up with the speed of traffic. Vehicles are slowing down & swerving to avoid the bicyclists. Remember, this is a 2 lane road. I have been flipped off on several occasions by the bicyclists because I apparently didn’t swerve far enough out of my lane to avoid them. Maybe the bicyclists think it’s ok for me to take a head on collision so they can enjoy their recreational activity.

State law allows the bikes to be on the road & from what I have researched the bikes are considered vehicles. They, the bicyclists, are either going to get hit or cause a vehicle accident. I really don’t understand the mindset of somebody who rides a bike for approximately 20 miles on a 2 lane road with vehicle speeds approaching 60 mph & expects every vehicle to slow down & swerve around them.

 

[Boat 405]

Law is pretty clear that it is illegal to hold up the flow of traffic. Doesn't matter what is holding them up, car, truck, bicycle. You name it the law applies to skinny tire assholes too. Don't know why more people don't actually read the laws... CVC 21200. Rules of the road apply to them just as if they were a vehicle. And CVC 22400

(a) (1) A person riding a bicycle or operating a pedicab upon a highway has all the rights and is subject to all the provisions applicable to the driver of a vehicle by this division, including, but not limited to, provisions concerning driving under the influence of alcoholic beverages or drugs, and by Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000), Section 27400, Division 16.7 (commencing with Section 39000), Division 17 (commencing with Section 40000.1), and Division 18 (commencing with Section 42000), except those provisions which by their very nature can have no application.

(2) A person operating a bicycle on a Class I bikeway, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 890.4 of the Streets and Highways Code, has all the rights and is subject to all the provisions applicable to the driver of a vehicle pursuant to Section 20001, except those provisions which by their very nature can have no application.


They are considered a vehicle.

California's Vehicle Code § 22400, it is a violation of the traffic laws to drive on a highway at such a slow speed that it impedes or blocks the normal and reasonable movement of traffic unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation.

 

[DLC]

I sure hope that Bike guy has Insurance….

He scratched an RV….. Dam things are expensive to fix !

 

[mash on it]

I’ll bite. Williamson Valley road, a 2 lane road running North & South out of Prescott. Speed limit is posted at 50 mph but is often driven at 55 plus. Limited areas for vehicles to pass. Road is approximately 20 miles long. 90% of the road has no bike lanes.

There have been some serious vehicle accidents on the road the last 3 years. T-bone accidents from cross traffic & rear end collisions from
vehicles turning on to side roads.

Throw in the bicyclists who don’t have a bike lane to ride in & can’t keep up with the speed of traffic. Vehicles are slowing down & swerving to avoid the bicyclists. Remember, this is a 2 lane road. I have been flipped off on several occasions by the bicyclists because I apparently didn’t swerve far enough out of my lane to avoid them. Maybe the bicyclists think it’s ok for me to take a head on collision so they can enjoy their recreational activity.

State law allows the bikes to be on the road & from what I have researched the bikes are considered vehicles. They, the bicyclists, are either going to get hit or cause a vehicle accident. I really don’t understand the mindset of somebody who rides a bike for approximately 20 miles on a 2 lane road with vehicle speeds approaching 60 mph & expects every vehicle to slow down & swerve around them.

Maybe leave earlier? Like the cyclist did?

Dan'l

 

[was thatguy]

What about passenger cars forced to slow down to 20mph for an under powered overloaded RV? Can we bounce the many tire assholes off the road?

All users of roads need to be mindful and cognizant of their surroundings and considerate of others. It sucks to get stuck behind slow people, and it sucks when bike riders act like they own the road or have the right of way regardless of where it happens. I think people are in too damned much a hurry these days, but you should NOT impede the flow of traffic regardless of what your on/in if you can at all help it.

Or the Harley’s that crowd the centerline thinking they’ll push traffic over for their 2 wide formation.
What’s the bag limit on them?
That RV is lucky he didn’t kill that dude.
What kind of point is he making?
“I’m an asshole that will kill people if they encroach my lane”???

There’s no excuse, regardless of the bikers position on the road.
I remember a while back nearly the entire membership wanted to kill and skin somebody who hit that little girl that ran across the street. Thank god she was ok.
That was on a residential street, this was on a known popular biking route.
When you drive a vehicle it is YOUR responsibility to do it in a safe manner. That means watching out for both stupid people in the road and little kids in the road alike.

 

[RitcheyRch]

I would have followed the bike riders if they all looked like this

 

[17 10 Flat]

Me thinks some people feel a right changes the laws of physics.

 

[FreeBird236]

Some of you guys need to figure out the difference between a fog line and a bike lane.

 

[CLdrinker]

BULLSHIT ... That RV had no oncoming traffic and could have easily moved over. I'm not a bicyclist but my Kids and Granddaughter are. I worry about them because of dipshits like this clown.

Grant this is the thread where you find a bunch of dipshits to put on ignore.

 

[77charger]

They need to stay far right when vehicle approaches. If your gonna pedal a mtn rd with no bike lanes you need to not block the damn lanes.

Seen it on public Rds in San Diego where these guys ride in 2-3 and purposely stuck into the lane blocking all passing cars single file. Best was in Irvine watching them get pulled over for doing so.

Ones I hate are the dont give a Fuck riders. The ones that move over for a couple seconds do you can pass are ok to me.

 

[bonesfab]

Falls back to the lug nut rule. He with the most lug nuts usually wins the battle. Most cyclist are entitled douche canoes. most i said.

 

[pkrrvr619]

Can one of the resident bikers explain to me why they need to run 2 or 3 wide? If there is a bike lane in good shape why the need to venture into the road?

School us uninformed.

Seems to me all of this could be avoided if you stayed in the bike lane and rode single file…..

What am I missing?

 

[RadMan]

Too much all day ass in their face they have to stagger

 

[JDKRXW]

Darwin missed on this one.... but listening to this guy being interviewed - $10 says Darwin gets another chance.
It's just plain stupid to ride 2 wide on a road like this.
A car/mh comes up on a group of cyclists all riding on the shoulder and 1 slides out into the driving lane?? ... give me a break.

 

[was thatguy]

All true but just like I said, the car driver has to watch out for stupid people just like you have to watch out for anything else on the road.
Those guys weren’t near as bad as the morons I’ve seen in Stanford area

 

[hallett21]

Can one of the resident bikers explain to me why they need to run 2 or 3 wide? If there is a bike lane in good shape why the need to venture into the road?

School us uninformed.

Seems to me all of this could be avoided if you stayed in the bike lane and rode single file…..

What am I missing?

I assume it’s to hold a conversation

 

[JDKRXW]

99% of bike / MV conflicts would be solved if this sign had 2 additional words on it;
"Single File"

 

[Wheeler]

Can one of the resident bikers explain to me why they need to run 2 or 3 wide? If there is a bike lane in good shape why the need to venture into the road?

School us uninformed.

Seems to me all of this could be avoided if you stayed in the bike lane and rode single file…..

What am I missing?

Who in their right mind would ride single file ...other than Grads?

 

[pkrrvr619]

Who in their right mind would ride single file ...other than Grads?

Ok ride two wide so as long as it fits in the bike lane...

My point is if there is a bike lane and the riders stay in it, it any fashion they deem appropriate, and the motorists give 3 feet from the bike lane, most of these issues should be resolved.

Its the 3 wide in the car lane that i don't understand. Is not sniffing ass or being able to hold a conversation that important to risk being hit by an RV?

 

[LuauLounge]

There's an unorganized group of riders that ride 3 abreast on the levee road south of Sacramento. One side is 20 feet into an orchard other side is 20 feet into the river, take your pick.

 

[hallett21]

Quick google search says cyclist ride 2 abreast to increase visibility for motorists and to also shorten the length of their group. Compared to riding single file.

 

[Wheeler]

Ok ride two wide so as long as it fits in the bike lane...

My point is if there is a bike lane and the riders stay in it, it any fashion they deem appropriate, and the motorists give 3 feet from the bike lane, most of these issues should be resolved.

I say break out the heavy metal and be done with these road warriors once and for all.

 

[RiverDave]

My take is if there is a bike lane then they should be required to be in it, if there isn't a bike lane then the 3' law is in effect.

Bingo!

 

[Bigbore500r]

Two lane mountain road and the cyclist is blocking a portion of the road. I would have slowed down and given them space but at the same time stay in the bike lane. I looked up the law and there is no clear rule that they need to stay in there bike lane.



They do piss me off especially in large groups in California

Flagstaff cyclist lucky to be alive after being tossed from his bike by passing RV

It’s state law to give cyclists at least 3 feet of space.

www.azfamily.com

They have the right to be in the lane.
But you can be 100% right and dead at the same time.......that's the part these spandex warriors don't consider.

The Driver is screwed, regardless of what the Bike was doing, as long as he was traveling the correct direction with traffic the RV driver is at fault.

 

[RiverDave]

Quick google search says cyclist ride 2 abreast to increase visibility for motorists and to also shorten the length of their group. Compared to riding single file.

You believe that? They do it because they are entitled..

That said the Rv shoulda slowed and made a pass when it was safe..