What would a modern world war look like in the US?

[Sportin' Wood]

It's not the same USA that existed in WW2. The ones running this country today probably wouldn't be able to pull off an attack of that magnitude anymore

True we are not the same country, but the USA had failing leadership and a country clearly divided during the great depression. While I'm not going to claim to be a historian, I do get the benefit of being married to a bonafide historian and we spend a considerable amount of time on topics of history, trying to sift through propaganda and truth.

Under Hoover, the country was a mess. (FWIW historically we have been a mess a few times and bounced back.) We had cut military spending, and what little we had we were giving away. We call them the "Greatest Generation" for a reason, they unified, sacrificed, and stood up when called for duty.

Call me an optimist, but I want badly to believe that we only see a vocal minority of idiots who take advantage of their chosen platform to push an unpopular agenda.
I think most Americans live a perfectly quiet life enjoying the opportunities this country provides. I see people who will rise to the occasion when called. I see a country that again could mobilize.

It took a long time to prepare for D-Day if that is the attack you are talking about. We need some hard times to make hard men, but I bet we have a few young men in this country who still know how to be monsters. A few ladies as well.

In so far as weak leadership, we have ourselves to blame, we have more important things to do with our time than participate in the experiment we call the United States. How few of us will rise to the call of Statesman? I for one don't want to give up my snowbird lifestyle in exchange for serving in politics. I am no better. Better to rant on my keyboard.

 

[wash11]

Speaking of legit RV solar…. This is Chicken Dans personal rig, older heavy duty toy hauler. He’s doing off grid solar installation full time now and lives on-site through the job.
Basically, 4kw solar on the roof.
4 separate charge controllers to deal with all the different roof angles, also helps cope with partial rig shading.
Three 5.1 kWh 48 volt lithium batteries.
One 3500va Victron inverter. Runs 130vac lighting, fridge, mini split, etc, etc.
Victron touch screen inside also allows remote monitoring and programming via on board Starlink.
All tied into an auto start generator that literally never runs.
The list of other custom shit is pretty extensive- really neat rig.

 

[RaceTec]

Speaking of legit RV solar…. This is Chicken Dans personal rig, older heavy duty toy hauler. He’s doing off grid solar installation full time now and lives on-site through the job.
Basically, 4kw solar on the roof.
4 separate charge controllers to deal with all the different roof angles, also helps cope with partial rig shading.
Three 5.1 kWh 48 volt lithium batteries.
One 3500va Victron inverter. Runs 130vac lighting, fridge, mini split, etc, etc.
Victron touch screen inside also allows remote monitoring and programming via on board Starlink.
All tied into an auto start generator that literally never runs.
The list of other custom shit is pretty extensive- really neat rig.

I would love to see a build thread on something like this!!!

 

[rrrr]

• Sure you may have bullets and guns, but are you proficient? Are they even clean?
• Can you run 3 miles? Can you run even one mile? How far can you hike? Are you agile? How do your feet handle that, good shoes?
• How heavy of a pack can you carry? All those rounds are gonna get heavy. Have you considered what those weapons weigh?
• Have you ever gone more than 24 hours without food? How long can you go?
• What happens when you can't have alcohol any longer? Do you need to detox? Special medications?
• Do you have access to clean water? Good soil? Can you protect it?
• Do you or your family members have any medical training? It's likely infections are going to fuck up a lot of people.
• I'm sure hunting and dressing out game fits in here as well.

Why you gotta fuck up my mojo?

 

[EmpirE231]

I'm surprised more folks don't add legit systems to RV's like you did. Zero downside to it besides cash outlay. In the event of the unthinkable that cash is useless but a fully self contained rig would be gold.

It's definitely an investment... previous mindset was, who cares... burn some diesel and run the onboard genny. But with Diesel approaching $7/ gallon here in CA.... talks of Diesel scarcity, talks of war etc..... sure lets do it lol. I always like the idea of it, but didn't really "need" it..... still might not "need" it but it would be a nice insurance policy. Rig is all electric, so having solar with some good battery capacity = endless refrigerator use, electric stove top, microwave etc

 

[rivrrts429]

Speaking of legit RV solar…. This is Chicken Dans personal rig, older heavy duty toy hauler. He’s doing off grid solar installation full time now and lives on-site through the job.
Basically, 4kw solar on the roof.
4 separate charge controllers to deal with all the different roof angles, also helps cope with partial rig shading.
Three 5.1 kWh 48 volt lithium batteries.
One 3500va Victron inverter. Runs 130vac lighting, fridge, mini split, etc, etc.
Victron touch screen inside also allows remote monitoring and programming via on board Starlink.
All tied into an auto start generator that literally never runs.
The list of other custom shit is pretty extensive- really neat rig.
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That’s a really nice sano setup. He’s got some money wrapped up into that. I would love to do this to my motorhome.

 

[Riverbound]

1. There would be no toilet paper immediately.

2. Rest of supply chain will fail within 72 hours.

3. The hoods will riot an burn themselves out within 14 days.

4. Suburban dwellers will fend off hood rats looking for supplies. Areas will fortify and hood rats body’s will pile up at access points 90 days.

5. Some will thrive, other will be consumed in the process 180 days.

Two things you need.
1. A gun
2. A can opener

3.ammo to go with #1

 

[PlanB]

Hezbollah in the U.S. Interesting video:

 

[WAAZ]

I lost all my guns

You too? Damn, getting old sucks with the memory loss and all.

 

[RiverDave]

Has no one here seen what one fighter jet or Apache helicopter is capable of?

Who exactly is this enemy you will be shooting?
The neighbors?
Will this be a block by block enemy identification?
Dude 2 blocks over (or 5 acres over) is now your enemy if he doesn’t know the secret hand signal from 200 yards away?

Or is it the uniformed soldier? Doesn’t matter what uniform or where he’s from. One shot towards him and your mighty fortress will be shelled into oblivion within 1 minute…if it hasn’t been softened already.
I don’t know what you guys are (mostly) envisioning as your hill, but in my humble opinion there seems to be an imperfect understanding of what reality might be with the varying different sorts of collapse and upheaval.
If it’s economic collapse (which goes hand in hand with social and structural collapse) there’s a lot of indicators already.
If it’s invasion, rest assured that the embedded cells are well trained and ready right now, this minute, to minimize any and all pockets of resistance. Be it military posts and/ or civilian resistance.
We, as pretend defenders, think we have some sort of upper hand…we do not. “They” are here, they are well trained (for real trained…not bison road with a case of beer and 1000 rounds at the bonfire trained), and they are more than at peace with their makers.
Martyrdom is the pinnacle of their culture.
Real estate and trust funds is ours…

To quote Jeremiah Johnson:
“It won’t save anything…hiding them in the corn crib…it won’t save anything”

So what does all this mean? Hell if I know.
But I highly recommend putting down the Rambo books and reading the one from a guy who already lived through it.

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I’m the furthest thing from Rambo.. I’m crippled out of shape.. I am more towards meal team six then seal team six..

But I gotta be honest.. I couldn’t disagree more with us just getting ran over by a bunch of foreigners on our own land.. whether that be some “cell” of terrorists or blue helmets.. I think you’d be surprised at how quickly an invasion of any sort falls apart.

One of the world’s most powerful armies is struggling fighting civilians right now in Ukraine. What force are you envisioning that’s gonna have more torque than that? Because a couple thousand middle eastern guys in an actual urban combat situation wouldn’t make it to sunset.. make it a couple hundred thousand they might make it to day 2-3. That is honestly with zero government interference.. just straight civilians countering.

Blue helmets? I think IED knowledge would be spread like wildfire in the first 24 hrs.. there’s enough shit at any given hardware store to make explosives well enough to take out tracked vehicles etc..

I’m not even factoring in that all of our military weapons come from the private sector.. the shit I was working on 20 years ago still isn’t even in play in the US military to my knowledge. The UN sure as shit isn’t gonna have it. That’s all developed and ready to go production stuff that would make ya say .

In short I don’t share your view of helplessness.. there is a fuck ton of retired military etc that are extremely capable. I myself can’t run n gun.. but I’d have zero problems helping out in other ways that would be more beneficial.

RD

 

[hallett21]

It's not the same USA that existed in WW2. The ones running this country today probably wouldn't be able to pull off an attack of that magnitude anymore

I think if you factor in our special forces, pilots and navy we could do a whole lot more damage than we did in WW2.

We wouldn’t fight a war with thousands on the ground storming a beach.

I think we have a bafoon in the White House but our generals, admirals and technical advisors are the best in the world.

 

[was thatguy]

I’m the furthest thing from Rambo.. I’m crippled out of shape.. I am more towards meal team six then seal team six..

But I gotta be honest.. I couldn’t disagree more with us just getting ran over by a bunch of foreigners on our own land.. whether that be some “cell” of terrorists or blue helmets.. I think you’d be surprised at how quickly an invasion of any sort falls apart.

One of the world’s most powerful armies is struggling fighting civilians right now in Ukraine. What force are you envisioning that’s gonna have more torque than that? Because a couple thousand middle eastern guys in an actual urban combat situation wouldn’t make it to sunset.. make it a couple hundred thousand they might make it to day 2-3. That is honestly with zero government interference.. just straight civilians countering.

Blue helmets? I think IED knowledge would be spread like wildfire in the first 24 hrs.. there’s enough shit at any given hardware store to make explosives well enough to take out tracked vehicles etc..

I’m not even factoring in that all of our military weapons come from the private sector.. the shit I was working on 20 years ago still isn’t even in play in the US military to my knowledge. The UN sure as shit isn’t gonna have it. That’s all developed and ready to go production stuff that would make ya say .

In short I don’t share your view of helplessness.. there is a fuck ton of retired military etc that are extremely capable. I myself can’t run n gun.. but I’d have zero problems helping out in other ways that would be more beneficial.

RD

I never said helplessness.
I said imperfect understanding of reality.

 

[hallett21]

Speaking of legit RV solar…. This is Chicken Dans personal rig, older heavy duty toy hauler. He’s doing off grid solar installation full time now and lives on-site through the job.
Basically, 4kw solar on the roof.
4 separate charge controllers to deal with all the different roof angles, also helps cope with partial rig shading.
Three 5.1 kWh 48 volt lithium batteries.
One 3500va Victron inverter. Runs 130vac lighting, fridge, mini split, etc, etc.
Victron touch screen inside also allows remote monitoring and programming via on board Starlink.
All tied into an auto start generator that literally never runs.
The list of other custom shit is pretty extensive- really neat rig.
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Badass!

 

[RiverDave]

It's not the same USA that existed in WW2. The ones running this country today probably wouldn't be able to pull off an attack of that magnitude anymore

We wouldn’t have too.. we ran over Iraq faster than hitlers panzer division competed the Tour de France..

Our military is far more advanced than anything else in the world.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I’m the furthest thing from Rambo.. I’m crippled out of shape.. I am more towards meal team six then seal team six..

But I gotta be honest.. I couldn’t disagree more with us just getting ran over by a bunch of foreigners on our own land.. whether that be some “cell” of terrorists or blue helmets.. I think you’d be surprised at how quickly an invasion of any sort falls apart.

One of the world’s most powerful armies is struggling fighting civilians right now in Ukraine. What force are you envisioning that’s gonna have more torque than that? Because a couple thousand middle eastern guys in an actual urban combat situation wouldn’t make it to sunset.. make it a couple hundred thousand they might make it to day 2-3. That is honestly with zero government interference.. just straight civilians countering.

Blue helmets? I think IED knowledge would be spread like wildfire in the first 24 hrs.. there’s enough shit at any given hardware store to make explosives well enough to take out tracked vehicles etc..

I’m not even factoring in that all of our military weapons come from the private sector.. the shit I was working on 20 years ago still isn’t even in play in the US military to my knowledge. The UN sure as shit isn’t gonna have it. That’s all developed and ready to go production stuff that would make ya say .

In short I don’t share your view of helplessness.. there is a fuck ton of retired military etc that are extremely capable. I myself can’t run n gun.. but I’d have zero problems helping out in other ways that would be more beneficial.

RD

Who is struggling in Ukraine? Have you looked at a battle map lately? The Russians have already won. It’s fucking over. Russia has its land bridge.

The Russians are killing Ukrainian forces at a rate of 40-50:1.

If hypothetically you get into it with a couple thousand dudes from a 3rd world, shithole with combat training they would roll through the entire town of Havasu by sunset Old Testament style.

The people in Havasu would be too busy arguing about what cooler will keep their meat rations colder for longer, trying to load gold bars into their truck and bartering for wet wipes.

We haven’t even brought up the opportunist criminal factions that will go after everyone in a lawless situation with no consequences.

 

[4Waters]

Who is struggling in Ukraine? Have you looked at a battle map lately? The Russians have already won. It’s fucking over. Russia has its land bridge.
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The Russians are killing Ukrainian forces at a rate of 40-50:1.

If hypothetically you get into it with a couple thousand dudes from a 3rd world, shithole with combat training they would roll through the entire town of Havasu by sunset Old Testament style.

The people in Havasu would be too busy arguing about what cooler will keep their meat rations colder for longer, trying to load gold bars into their truck and bartering for wet wipes.

I don't know why you think you are such a pussy but I think higher of you. That's basically what you are calling all of us. You'd be surprised

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I don't know why you think you are such a pussy but I think higher of you. That's basically what you are calling all of us. You'd be surprised

That’s not at all what I said.

I said we as a people in general are woefully unprepared mentally and physically for the type of situation described here compared to people that have lived in combat situations their entire lives.

The reality is if that happens, just like in every other war, 99% of people are going to flee.

 

[wash11]

I would love to see a build thread on something like this!!!

I try to get him to post his weird creations here and he'd love to- he just needs an extra 8 hours in each day. It's just him and his wife that design and build all this stuff, crew of two.

 

[DILLIGAF]

I'm surprised more folks don't add legit systems to RV's like you did. Zero downside to it besides cash outlay. In the event of the unthinkable that cash is useless but a fully self contained rig would be gold.

Hmmmmm….

 

[WYRD]

I think if you factor in our special forces, pilots and navy we could do a whole lot more damage than we did in WW2.

We wouldn’t fight a war with thousands on the ground storming a beach.

I think we have a bafoon in the White House but our generals, admirals and technical advisors are the best in the world.

Not sure I agree 100% but I get your point to my point though I don't think the administration or the current Congress has the same wherewithal to make the tough calls in order to send our military in to do what would be required

 

[WYRD]

We wouldn’t have too.. we ran over Iraq faster than hitlers panzer division competed the Tour de France..

Our military is far more advanced than anything else in the world.

It's not the military I worry about, it's the politicians..

 

[monkeyswrench]

I try to get him to post his weird creations here and he'd love to- he just needs an extra 8 hours in each day. It's just him and his wife that design and build all this stuff, crew of two.

Hmmmmm….

The rig in it's current incarnation is badass. Mrs "Chicken Dan" showed me the current status of the system, complete with usage, charge, reserve and temps...from her phone! They had the rig up and running, and can monitor everything remotely, as well as control settings on the inverter and charger doodads. They can also look at different days and compare.

Their rig was set up 100 miles away, and they can pull everything up on the phone! Like Star Trek kind of stuff! Not cheap, but impressive as hell. The solar has another advantage over the genny with fuel. They're silent. Anyone who's been out in the woods knows you can hear even the quiet genny's over quite a distance out there.

 

[DILLIGAF]

The rig in it's current incarnation is badass. Mrs "Chicken Dan" showed me the current status of the system, complete with usage, charge, reserve and temps...from her phone! They had the rig up and running, and can monitor everything remotely, as well as control settings on the inverter and charger doodads. They can also look at different days and compare.

Their rig was set up 100 miles away, and they can pull everything up on the phone! Like Star Trek kind of stuff! Not cheap, but impressive as hell. The solar has another advantage over the genny with fuel. They're silent. Anyone who's been out in the woods knows you can hear even the quiet genny's over quite a distance out there.

I have had plenty robust solar setups on the trailer put in by the same guy who did Washs property.

The current one has solar and 500Ah of lithium. Not like that system Washs friend has but would get me along.

All the monitoring and so forth via the phone or controllers is pretty standard on anything remotely robust. You cant pull up remotely unless you have some type of connection. In the event of EMP disaster i do not believe that will work but they will probably be at the trailer so its not important.

That being said I would like to add another 500-600AH of batteries.

Not comparing my setup to that awesome setup

 

[grumpy88]

That’s not at all what I said.

I said we as a people in general are woefully unprepared mentally and physically for the type of situation described here compared to people that have lived in combat situations their entire lives.

The reality is if that happens, just like in every other war, 99% of people are going to flee.

Will Starbucks be in the green zone ? Asking for a friend of course !haha

 

[4Waters]

Will Starbucks be in the green zone ? Asking for a friend of course !haha

Well, I know where I'm running to

Should be safe here

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I have had plenty robust solar setups on the trailer put in by the same guy who did Washs property.

The current one has solar and 500Ah of lithium. Not like that system Washs friend has but would get me along.

All the monitoring and so forth via the phone or controllers is pretty standard on anything remotely robust. You cant pull up remotely unless you have some type of connection. In the event of EMP disaster i do not believe that will work but they will probably be at the trailer so its not important.

That being said I would like to add another 500-600AH of batteries.

Not comparing my setup to that awesome setup

If there was an EMP disaster it would also kill your (or anyones) chargers, inverters, BMS, etc. rendering solar and lithium batteries almost useless.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I have had plenty robust solar setups on the trailer put in by the same guy who did Washs property.

The current one has solar and 500Ah of lithium. Not like that system Washs friend has but would get me along.

All the monitoring and so forth via the phone or controllers is pretty standard on anything remotely robust. You cant pull up remotely unless you have some type of connection. In the event of EMP disaster i do not believe that will work but they will probably be at the trailer so its not important.

That being said I would like to add another 500-600AH of batteries.

Not comparing my setup to that awesome setup

Funny thing is, I told him I'd rather have something more equivalent to an old voltage regulator...like points All this solid state wizardry scares me.

 

[monkeyswrench]

If there was an EMP disaster it would also kill your (or anyones) chargers, inverters, BMS, etc. rendering solar and lithium batteries almost useless.

...not exactly true, depending on the installation and equipment used. Problem is, when really tested, if it fails, not much you can do for a refund

 

[spectra3279]

@RiverDave you should have kept those MRE's. The way things are going you may need them

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

...not exactly true, depending on the installation and equipment used. Problem is, when really tested, if it fails, not much you can do for a refund

Nothing like a lithium battery fire to throw a wrench into your luxury bug out scenario.

And to think you wouldn’t even be able to vent on RDP about it

If an EMP took out any one of those components between the solar and batteries the system would be seriously compromised or non functional.

 

[hallett21]

Nothing like a lithium battery fire to throw a wrench into your luxury bug out scenario.

And to think you wouldn’t even be able to vent on RDP about it

If an EMP took out any one of those components between the solar and batteries the system would be seriously compromised or non functional.

I thought we all had faraday cages around everything

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I thought we all had faraday cages around everything

No we pulled all the foil backed decals off the rig when we bought it so it would look better.

 

[grumpy88]

Well, I know where I'm running to

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Should be safe here

See you there ! Haha

 

[monkeyswrench]

Nothing like a lithium battery fire to throw a wrench into your luxury bug out scenario.

And to think you wouldn’t even be able to vent on RDP about it

They do have equipment for that purpose. Are they To be trusted? I don't know. They seem to be like lightning stops, but probably something different. Figure an ill fated lightning strike can have roughly the same effect on a solar system.

 

[was thatguy]

You’re doing it wrong…

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Who is struggling in Ukraine? Have you looked at a battle map lately? The Russians have already won. It’s fucking over. Russia has its land bridge.


If hypothetically you get into it with a couple thousand dudes from a 3rd world, shithole with combat training they would roll through the entire town of Havasu by sunset Old Testament style.

The people in Havasu would be too busy arguing about what cooler will keep their meat rations colder for longer, trying to load gold bars into their truck and bartering for wet wipes.

We haven’t even brought up the opportunist criminal factions that will go after everyone in a lawless situation with no consequences.

I tend to believe some people will surprise you in times of need. A couple of years ago I was at an Arizona state park enjoying the day while Angie was writing her book. I was finishing my day and packing up my truck when I smelled smoke. Along the highway, someone had tossed a cigarette or something and it sparked a small fire.

I was near Sedona and if that fire spread it would have been bad.

Yes there were a few of those soft guys who yelled at the family to hurry up and get in the car because they had dinner reservations and the road would be closed if they did not get out, but I saw citizens run toward the fire as I did with whatever they could find to fight. I was in flip-flops and shorts so I knew I was not going to be jumping into the flames, but I tossed hand tools to a bunch of young men and women who went to work. That fire was out before the fire crew was even close.

We still see people run toward the fight time and time again. All is not lost in this country, I refuse to believe that.

In so far as Havasu, I envision a UTV fast attack team smashing your 1000-man army of dirt worshipers. My money is on Havasu not falling in 24 hours. Don't forget the Air National Guard and their Osprey's might have something to say about your 3rd world heathens.

 

[was thatguy]

2-3 years ago the Havasu RDP mob was saying they were going to shoot guardsmen if they tried to forcibly impose martial law, as I recall?

 

[monkeyswrench]

2-3 years ago the Havasu RDP mob was saying they were going to shoot guardsmen if they tried to forcibly impose martial law, as I recall?

Ain't it funny how lines are drawn and teams change?

War makes some odd allies. A guy you wouldn't trust to wash your car becomes a trusted teammate when you both have a common enemy trying to kill you.

 

[was thatguy]

I tend to believe some people will surprise you in times of need. A couple of years ago I was at an Arizona state park enjoying the day while Angie was writing her book. I was finishing my day and packing up my truck when I smelled smoke. Along the highway, someone had tossed a cigarette or something and it sparked a small fire.

I was near Sedona and if that fire spread it would have been bad.

Yes there were a few of those soft guys who yelled at the family to hurry up and get in the car because they had dinner reservations and the road would be closed if they did not get out, but I saw citizens run toward the fire as I did with whatever they could find to fight. I was in flip-flops and shorts so I knew I was not going to be jumping into the flames, but I tossed hand tools to a bunch of young men and women who went to work. That fire was out before the fire crew was even close.

We still see people run toward the fight time and time again. All is not lost in this country, I refuse to believe that.

In so far as Havasu, I envision a UTV fast attack team smashing your 1000-man army of dirt worshipers. My money is on Havasu not falling in 24 hours. Don't forget the Air National Guard and their Osprey's might have something to say about your 3rd world heathens.

Well, after they got done arguing about whether the CanAms, razors, or speed cars get to run point.
Only then will they leave the human bean parking lot!!

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Well, after they got done arguing about whether the CanAms, razors, or speed cars get to run point.
Only then will they leave the human bean parking lot!!

The Speed cars are the Gamma Goat of UTVs in this story.

Edit: 45 seconds after this post I received a cease and desist email from a Speed legal counselor. In no way shape or form did I intend to have any basis for my comparison to the lovable Gamma Goat and a superior Speed UTV. My comments are reserved for my own amusement. Carry on.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Well, after they got done arguing about whether the CanAms, razors, or speed cars get to run point.
Only then will they leave the human bean parking lot!!

That's the best part of being in a redneck area...we figure if the pickup starts in the morning, it's made the grade

Hell, I'm putting the gun racks back in the 83. 350/350, and if an emp takes out the HEI I'll stuff a Unilite in

 

[4Waters]

That's the best part of being in a redneck area...we figure if the pickup starts in the morning, it's made the grade

Hell, I'm putting the gun racks back in the 83. 350/350, and if an emp takes out the HEI I'll stuff a Unilite in

I've actually wanted to build a driver/bugout veh with a 4.3l carb with points or a 4BT cummins

 

[SBMech]

All of this posturing just goes to prove that none of us knows exactly what will happen, who will support Patriots, who is actually attacking, etc.

Multiple scenarios in here.

Military is supposed to be forbidden to act via the Posse Comitatus Act, but is just more smoke and mirrors since the Insurrection Act trumps it, with literally no rules.

We are going to have to trust members of the military to commit treason by refusing to follow orders to attack citizens.​

Scary stuff.

 

[SBMech]

I've actually wanted to build a driver/bugout veh with a 4.3l carb with points or a 4BT cummins

Go with the Cummins, you can practically make diesel with salvaged oil and kerosene!

 

[monkeyswrench]

Go with the Cummins, you can practically make diesel with salvaged oil and kerosene!

Have a friend in the PNW with an IDI Ford...and a transmission shop. He fires it on diesel, and switches over to "filtered", used ATF. Been commuting like that for years. I'd like to find an old IDI 4x4 4spd truck to run around. They sure aren't fast, but keep running.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Oh for fucks sake…

The only thing missing in this thread is…”Wolverines!”

 

[was thatguy]

Oh for fucks sake…

The only thing missing in this thread is…”Wolverines!”

I still think Lea Thompson should have got an Oscar for that movie!
I mean, Jennifer Grey was hot and all, but Lea was bad ass.

 

[SBMech]

Oh for fucks sake…

The only thing missing in this thread is…”Wolverines!”

All kidding around, I still want you on my team if shit goes down.

If you can face down a charging bull Elephant or a Grizzly, I have no doubts you can stand up when needed.!

 

[SBMech]

I still think Lea Thompson should have got an Oscar for that movie!
I mean, Jennifer Grey was hot and all, but Lea was bad ass.
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Ohh I choose Lea everytime over Jennifer, not even close!

 

[was thatguy]

My phone screen.