WalMart Haters

[Phebus]

I don't care where my wife shops, as long as dinner is on the table on time.

 

[shreve"T"]

I'm not going to be defending WalMart here only saying their prices are good.I do have a question as have a friend who works in their corporate, and says they have their own construction company and do all in house? Are you telling me NO? Just Asking,thanks!!

Your friend is full of shit !!! They sub most if not all there work out..

 

[OCMerrill]

Here is a Walmart story Faceaz can relate to and even Djunkie.

I used to be in the Plastics Biz. We came up with our own type of indoor plant watering system, I had all the tooling built locally, molded the parts in Irvine and Chino, assembled the entire product at out building in Santa Ana.

Well, our reps got us into Walmart. We negotiated the terms at 60 days payment, and went into production. In their contract they reserve the right to alter the payment terms if your product does not sell at the rate they want to see.

Well after the first round the product did well and here comes round two's contract. Order 3x the size and 180 day terms and we had to guarantee buyback and go with a roll back down to 30% of the products costs with us crediting walmart the difference.

What a bunch of pricks. We said Nope and thats that. About 6 months later I was shopping in a Walmart in Foothill Ranch (South OC) and there was a similar product made in China for sale for about 30% less. We were indeed baited and almost took the hook. They were planning to roll that China POS and bag us. This is just one of the many ways they make money.

When I saw that I decided we will not be shopping there if it can be avoided.

So add Fuck Walmart to the list.


In the past 10 years since that deal I have bought only a handfull of things at a Walmart because it was my only choice. Unfortunately when your on vacation and they are the only place open you do what you can.

But local shopping, no way.

 

[Some Kind Of Monster]

I hate WalMart as well, but I will give them one thumbs up. All these other stores make you get these stupid membership cards to get their discounts and then when you check out they try to tell you how much money you "saved" by being a member. "Thank you sir you saved XXXX today"... NO I DIDN'T! You just jacked up the price and made me sign up for your dumb club in order to bring the price back to a more reasonable level.. Said price is STILL higher than other stores that don't make you jump through hoops. At least Walmart doesnt do this.. :blah:

 

[460]

WALMART has cheap ammo prices. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

 

[OCMerrill]

WALMART has cheap ammo prices. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Fuck.

 

[blowncat 509]

I ONLY go to wallyworld to buy MOBILE 1, the only place I have found it in
the 5 qt jugs for $32.00-(those jugs also say"specially packaged for wm.")
I go in thru the auto service back door, get my oil, turn around and have
them buzz me out. I suggest everyone try it, it puts the "Wallmart exp"
down to the minimum acceptable level

 

[HBCraig]

I ONLY go to wallyworld to buy MOBILE 1, the only place I have found it in
the 5 qt jugs for $32.00-(those jugs also say"specially packaged for wm.")
I go in thru the auto service back door, get my oil, turn around and have
them buzz me out. I suggest everyone try it, it puts the "Wallmart exp"
down to the minimum acceptable level

I buy Mobil 1 in quart cases from Costco. Not a great price but better than an autoparts store.

 

[Paul65k]

I ONLY go to wally-world to buy MOBILE 1, the only place I have found it in
the 5 qt jugs for $32.00-(those jugs also say"specially packaged for wm.")
I go in thru the auto service back door, get my oil, turn around and have
them buzz me out. I suggest everyone try it, it puts the "Wallmart exp"
down to the minimum acceptable level

Yup....I agree that's the best way in and out of WW....at least here in San Clemente, in Havasu though they don't have Oil and Tire service. Weird actually as I am told that this is (was) the 2nd largest Wal-Mart in the USA, at least it was when it was built.:deadhorse:

 

[454Rocket]

I still would not set foot into a walmart if they were selling widgets for 50%off. I will pay extra or do without just so I dont have to put up with the people and bullshit.

You've clearly never been to the Wal-Mart in Havasu...

... BTW, I'm sure everyone currently working at Wal-Mart would thank each and every one of you for shutting them down if you could... since they don't make what YOU think they should? oh, sorry? what your union says they should.

 

[OCMerrill]

How far is Walmart from Crazy Horse....5 miles max.

It's all about golf cart range.

 

[Jet-Daytona]

JD,when you decide to start a thread try setting your alarm clock earlier,like 10:00 am. Your threads should be up and running all day to develope properly. Thanks:thumbsup

develope?:rotflmao:

 

[Havasu Hangin']

You've clearly never been to the Wal-Mart in Havasu...

... BTW, I'm sure everyone currently working at Wal-Mart would thank each and every one of you for shutting them down if you could... since they don't make what YOU think they should? oh, sorry? what your union says they should.

The reason Wal Mart has taken so much heat over the past 10 years or so is because studies show that they actually lower the standard of living whenever they are opened.

It doesn't have as much to do with union jobs, as the grocery industry is a small piece of the puzzle. Search the internet, and you'll find that small, locally-owed businesses are mostly affected. Yes, products are cheaper (where they get them from and their ties to the Chinese government are a whole other story), but the cost is much greater to the local businesses.

Cities love Wal Mart because they create sales tax revenue- mostly by drawing in shoppers from surrounding cities. However, what's good for the city revenue, isn't always good for the community. The shift from local businesses and higher-paying jobs actually hurts the community. Essentialy, the city is taking money from the local folks in standard of living, and surrounding cities in tax revenue.

That is why California has sued Wal Mart every chance it gets (there are only 2 Supercenters in California).

I can remember when I lived in HB, and Wal Mart wanted to convert a traditional format to a Supercenter. The city council wanted the tax revenue so bad, they changed zoning just to accomodate Wal Mart.

However, the local residents proceeded to recall the entire city council and block the zoning change. It had little to do with union jobs, and more to do with locally-owned businesses (florists, bike shops, etc.).

I would think an isolated community like Lake Havasu City has just lowered their standard of living for the residents, since Wal Mart will have little draw from surrounding communities.

 

[WTDecker]

It's all about golf cart range.

Well sure it's in range and once you get there you can buy new batteries to get home

 

[AZJD]

The reason Wal Mart has taken so much heat over the past 10 years or so is because studies show that they actually lower the standard of living whenever they are opened.

It doesn't have as much to do with union jobs, as the grocery industry is a small piece of the puzzle. Search the internet, and you'll find that small, locally-owed businesses are mostly affected. Yes, products are cheaper (where they get them from and their ties to the Chinese government are a whole other story), but the cost is much greater to the local businesses.

Cities love Wal Mart because they create sales tax revenue- mostly by drawing in shoppers from surrounding cities. However, what's good for the city revenue, isn't always good for the community. The shift from local businesses and higher-paying jobs actually hurts the community. Essentialy, the city is taking money from the local folks in cost of living, and surrounding cities in tax revenue.

That is why California has sued Wal Mart every chance it gets (there are only 2 Supercenters in California).

I can remember when i lived in HB, and Wal Mart wanted to convert a traditional format to a Supercenter. The city council wanted the tax revenue so bad, they changed zoning just to accomodate Wal Mart.

However, the local residents proceeded to recall the entire city council and block the zoning change. It had little to do with union jobs, and more to do with locally-owned businesses (florists, bike shops, etc.).

Wow, look at the big brain on Jeff!!

 

[WTDecker]

I ONLY go to wallyworld to buy MOBILE 1, the only place I have found it in
the 5 qt jugs for $32.00-(those jugs also say"specially packaged for wm.")
I go in thru the auto service back door, get my oil, turn around and have
them buzz me out. I suggest everyone try it, it puts the "Wallmart exp"
down to the minimum acceptable level

The M1 oil at the Havasu Wal-Mart is about $24-$26. You can buy the same jugs at Auto-Zone just more $$$. The Beer, Vodka and Rum is much cheaper at WalMart also.That is the 4 main reasons why I shop there. Means more gas $$ for the Boat.

 

[WTDecker]

I don't care where my wife shops, as long as dinner is on the table on time.

You forgot one thing there,,,,,,,,,,,,And the Beer is COLD!

 

[WTDecker]

Man, I always get a laugh when these threads get started! All the big ballers take turns standing on the proverbial soap box explaining how we're killing America by patronizing stores like Walmart. Anyone been in a Home Depot lately? How about a Best Buy? Most big box stores are staffed with a bunch of Mensa's all with single digit IQ's, barely deserving a wage much above whatever minimum is. How many of us choose to shop on Amazon or other Internet stores without a second thought about where our money's ending up?
I have a retail business selling tools and I can tell you for sure, a huge majority of my customers are price shoppers. They bitch about the price for quality,and then when you show them an alternative option for a lower price, they bitch because it's not made in the USA! And forget loyalty, if they can buy the same thing somewhere else 2 bucks cheaper they do, no matter how good your service is. Yes, there are a few who are exceptions who do business with YOU because of YOU but the almighty dollar wins 9 out of 10 times.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is how subjective this topic is. Some say they won't go to Walmart because they're non union or don't treat their employee's all that well (allegedly), but will scour the Internet to find the cheapest price on something, buy it out of state so they don't have to pay sales tax, and then brag about what a deal they got and what a smart shopper they are without any thought of "the local business" or where the money ends up.

Isn't that the truth, they just go somewhere else to buy their China manufactured stuff and pay twice as much,,,,real smart..LOL

 

[Havasu Hangin']

Wow, look at the big brain on Jeff!!

I may work in a fast food place, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

 

[PolarBearKing]

You've clearly never been to the Wal-Mart in Havasu...

... BTW, I'm sure everyone currently working at Wal-Mart would thank each and every one of you for shutting them down if you could... since they don't make what YOU think they should? oh, sorry? what your union says they should.

This is exactly what I find ironic. There are way more union bashers here on this forum, yet this is what the non-unionized work force looks like (over generalization is intentional).

You want your cake and eat it too? Which is it?

For the record, I am union and I shop at WalMart on occaision. For me, it is all about price & convienence. Shit, my union negotiated a 25% pay cut this year. fuck 'em.

As a matter of fact, I stopped at the Havasu WalMart on my way into town in early November and bought a stereo for my boat. While I was there I also picked upsome ammo, booze, ice & snacks. Good deals all the way around. Then on Thanksgivng (different trip) it was the only place in town that was open @ 5pm. Bought some groceries, service was excellent and the store was clean. No complaints.

I'll be back when it is in MY best interest to do so.

 

[454Rocket]

The reason Wal Mart has taken so much heat over the past 10 years or so is because studies show that they actually lower the standard of living whenever they are opened.

It doesn't have as much to do with union jobs, as the grocery industry is a small piece of the puzzle. Search the internet, and you'll find that small, locally-owed businesses are mostly affected. Yes, products are cheaper (where they get them from and their ties to the Chinese government are a whole other story), but the cost is much greater to the local businesses.

Cities love Wal Mart because they create sales tax revenue- mostly by drawing in shoppers from surrounding cities. However, what's good for the city revenue, isn't always good for the community. The shift from local businesses and higher-paying jobs actually hurts the community. Essentialy, the city is taking money from the local folks in standard of living, and surrounding cities in tax revenue.

That is why California has sued Wal Mart every chance it gets (there are only 2 Supercenters in California).

I can remember when I lived in HB, and Wal Mart wanted to convert a traditional format to a Supercenter. The city council wanted the tax revenue so bad, they changed zoning just to accomodate Wal Mart.

However, the local residents proceeded to recall the entire city council and block the zoning change. It had little to do with union jobs, and more to do with locally-owned businesses (florists, bike shops, etc.).

I would think an isolated community like Lake Havasu City has just lowered their standard of living for the residents, since Wal Mart will have little draw from surrounding communities.

So lower prices for commodities, more tax revenue, and more jobs = lower standard of living.

... what flavor is that cool-aid?

Inglewood kicked out Wal-Mart and felt so empowered they raised the city tax... 9.75% here now. How do you think my retail business did as a result? If Wally was here it would have helped my small business.

 

[MMD]

Man, I always get a laugh when these threads get started!

All the big ballers take turns standing on the proverbial soap box explaining how we're killing America by patronizing stores like Walmart. Anyone been in a Home Depot lately? How about a Best Buy? Most big box stores are staffed with a bunch of Mensa's all with single digit IQ's, barely deserving a wage much above whatever minimum is. How many of us choose to shop on Amazon or other Internet stores without a second thought about where our money's ending up?

I have a retail business selling tools and I can tell you for sure, a huge majority of my customers are price shoppers. They bitch about the price for quality,and then when you show them an alternative option for a lower price, they bitch because it's not made in the USA! And forget loyalty, if they can buy the same thing somewhere else 2 bucks cheaper they do, no matter how good your service is. Yes, there are a few who are exceptions who do business with YOU because of YOU but the almighty dollar wins 9 out of 10 times.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is how subjective this topic is. Some say they won't go to Walmart because they're non union or don't treat their employee's all that well (allegedly), but will scour the Internet to find the cheapest price on something, buy it out of state so they don't have to pay sales tax, and then brag about what a deal they got and what a smart shopper they are without any thought of "the local business" or where the money ends up.

This thread subject is Walmart. And as we see from the posts, there are many reasons to not shop there.

As for your take on scouring the internet to find the cheapest price for products, that's the way of the world - it's a smaller globe thanks to the internet and buying online is attractive since there's often no tax and shipping can sometimes be had for free.

As for your business, I feel for you but if the products you sell are commodities in that they are not customized and you/your company don't add any value to them, that makes doing business very competitive and very price sensitive.

I think people will pay for quality and excellent customer service and I hope you find a way to prosper in this economy.

 

[coz]

Just got home and my wife was backing out, asked her where she's going and she said Wal-Mart....no kidding......anyone need anything? :thumbsup

 

[Ziggy]

I get a kick out of these Walmart threads...listen to all the banter and the fock this's and fock that's.

Then I go shop there and see the same people who said they hate it shopping there as well:skull

I must be a luck one because the store that's close to me has a few hotties working there and most everyone I talked to has been cordial and helpful(to their ability).

 

[lakemadness]

Fuck Wally world. If you can put up with their crappy retarded no good fucked up shit personality people they call employees, and getting that discount is worth it to you then good for you. I ablsolutely avoid that place at all costs. Not only do the workers suck at life, so do the majority of their customers. I get out of there feeling dumber and dirty as a crack addict sleeping in a dumpster. Half the time I've been there the fuckin greater at the door doesnt even say anything, WTF??? Dip shit has the easeist job kown to man and he cant do it.

Every once and a while when I need a good laugh, this is where I go:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?page_id=9798

 

[Ziggy]

Fuck Wally world. If you can put up with their crappy retarded no good fucked up shit personality people they call employees, and getting that discount is worth it to you then good for you. I ablsolutely avoid that place at all costs. Not only do the workers suck at life, so do the majority of their customers. I get out of there feeling dumber and dirty as a crack addict sleeping in a dumpster. Half the time I've been there the fuckin greater at the door doesnt even say anything, WTF??? Dip shit has the easeist job kown to man and he cant do it.

Every once and a while when I need a good laugh, this is where I go:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?page_id=9798

See ya at the Self check out line

 

[Scott E]

Anyone been in a Home Depot lately? How about a Best Buy? Most big box stores are staffed with a bunch of Mensa's all with single digit IQ's, barely deserving a wage much above whatever minimum is.

You do understand that Mensa and single digit IQ is mutually exclusive, right? Just saying...

 

[Ziggy]

You do understand that Mensa and single digit IQ is mutually exclusive, right? Just saying...

Oh yeah, Best Buy has top IQ personnel.............When I asked about a stereo receiver the guy looked at me like I was from Mars and takes me to all in ones and home theatre systems.:bash:

 

[Dave Wettlaufer]

Fuck Wally world. If you can put up with their crappy retarded no good fucked up shit personality people they call employees, and getting that discount is worth it to you then good for you. I ablsolutely avoid that place at all costs. Not only do the workers suck at life, so do the majority of their customers. I get out of there feeling dumber and dirty as a crack addict sleeping in a dumpster. Half the time I've been there the fuckin greater at the door doesnt even say anything, WTF??? Dip shit has the easeist job kown to man and he cant do it.

Every once and a while when I need a good laugh, this is where I go:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?page_id=9798

Dude, you are dumb!
That person is called a greeter.

[video=youtube;TToEODtsFXk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToEODtsFXk&feature=related[/video]

 

[shintoooo]

The Walmart in Havasu is nice. We stop there every weekend during the summer months.

Good prices and very convinient :thumbsup

If I need to pickup somethin real quick, I'll stop at Smiths, or Albertsons or Safeway.

I don't discriminate. I shop where my money goes the furthest and where it's convinient.

Flame on :hotdevil

 

[coz]

Fuck Wally world. If you can put up with their crappy retarded no good fucked up shit personality people they call employees, and getting that discount is worth it to you then good for you. I ablsolutely avoid that place at all costs. Not only do the workers suck at life, so do the majority of their customers. I get out of there feeling dumber and dirty as a crack addict sleeping in a dumpster. Half the time I've been there the fuckin greater at the door doesnt even say anything, WTF??? Dip shit has the easeist job kown to man and he cant do it.

Every once and a while when I need a good laugh, this is where I go:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?page_id=9798

I'm getting a kick outta all the people that are saying the employees are retarted and suck.....WTF? are you all going there looking for a piece of ass? or friendship? Get your shit, go to the check out, then leave.....no interaction needed

 

[Scott E]

I believe he is referring to the mexican group of the same sounding name.

Ahhhh. Once again my too literal mind has forced me to make an error in reading comprehension...

Oh yeah, Best Buy has top IQ personnel.............When I asked about a stereo receiver the guy looked at me like I was from Mars and takes me to all in ones and home theatre systems.:bash:

I wasn't debating the quality, or lack thereof, of big box retailer employees.

 

[460]

Just got home and my wife was backing out, asked her where she's going and she said Wal-Mart....no kidding......anyone need anything? :thumbsup

Little late but i need a couple boxes ov .40cal ammo.:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

 

[WTDecker]

Fuck Wally world. If you can put up with their crappy retarded no good fucked up shit personality people they call employees, and getting that discount is worth it to you then good for you. I ablsolutely avoid that place at all costs. Not only do the workers suck at life, so do the majority of their customers. I get out of there feeling dumber and dirty as a crack addict sleeping in a dumpster. HALF THE TIME I'VE BEEN THERE the fuckin greater at the door doesnt even say anything, WTF??? Dip shit has the easeist job kown to man and he cant do it.

Every once and a while when I need a good laugh, this is where I go:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?page_id=9798

Yet you still go there

 

[HBCraig]

I'm getting a kick outta all the people that are saying the employees are retarted and suck.....WTF? are you all going there looking for a piece of ass? or friendship? Get your shit, go to the check out, then leave.....no interaction needed

People get pissed because you actually have to interact with the morons that work there. They are very slow, obese, and extremely hard to look at. Their work ethic sucks, the product is mediocre, but other than that, Walmart isnt that bad.

 

[coz]

Little late but i need a couple boxes ov .40cal ammo.:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

I got your message and called her while she was there and she got home with 2 boxes of 20 guage shells.....I said WTF? and she said the guy at wall mart said 2 boxes of 20's equals 40 right? :smackhead

 

[RitcheyRch]

Didnt know that. Actually surprised to hear that.

Rich,we do not have a choice,no target here:thumbsdown

 

[460]

I got your message and called her while she was there and she got home with 2 boxes of 20 guage shells.....I said WTF? and she said the guy at wall mart said 2 boxes of 20's equals 40 right? :smackhead

LMAO.

E for effort i guess. She LISTENED

 

[lakemadness]

Dude, you are dumb!
That person is called a greeter.

YouTube - Wild Wal-Mart Girls

Ok spelling Nazi! Have fun at wally world

 

[Havasu Hangin']

So lower prices for commodities, more tax revenue, and more jobs = lower standard of living.

... what flavor is that cool-aid?

Inglewood kicked out Wal-Mart and felt so empowered they raised the city tax... 9.75% here now. How do you think my retail business did as a result? If Wally was here it would have helped my small business.

I think you need to put the bong down. There are not jobs created- only shifted. There is no increase in consumption- only shifting.

Yes, lower prices, but also lower wages. Hence, a lower standard of living. That's how that works. The cost of living for these folks will still increase, BTW.

The cities do not care where they get the tax revenue from, so the Wal Mart workers pay just like everyone else (except they have a lower earnings to begin with).

When Wal Mart opened in Palm Desert, they negotiated a 5 year tax-exempt deal. Essentially, they didn't have to pay the city for 5 years.

When the 5 years was up, they wanted to re-negotiate, and turn the store into a Supercenter. When the city put it's foot down on no more tax-exempt status, Wal Mart negotiated another deal with the city next door.

They moved a couple miles down the road- same shoppers, but no revenue for they city that stuck by them when they needed zoning to open in the first place.

If you wanna shop with your conscience- no problem. Boycott Wal Mart, but purchase their stock. Heck, with their emerging markets (like China), they don't need growth in the US stores.

 

[Dave Wettlaufer]

Ok spelling Nazi! Have fun at wally world

I don't go often, but I do go...lol

 

[mbrown2]

I would rather pay double than to step foot in a walmart. I like to support small local business that care of their customers. I like my money to stay in my community and support the people that are in turn are supporting my community. Reward good company's with your business and money. Price isn't everything, we should all take a hard look at who we spend our hard earned dollars with

Ditto...folks really need to think about this concept in the goods and services they purchase.

I used to purchase everything online for the best price....only purchase things I can't find retail at this point...

Walmart, would only step foot into one when in a town and no other option.

 

[Dave Wettlaufer]

Every friggin thing is corporate nowadays...where do you suggest people shop????

 

[PVHCA]

LMAO at all the Big Ballers and the couple of Dick Heads calling peeps that shop there dirt bags, losers etc. Would you like to compare bank rolls? Doubt it!!

I don't enjoy shopping at Wal-Mart because of the crowds but the money saved is well worth it. I go early in the morning and miss the crowds so I really don't get as upset as a few here do.

Wal-Mart is a very good customer of mine, but I have it good they need me for replacement parts for claims services so they don't get to name their price with me. Guess I'm lucky from what I've been reading.

I would offer one bit of advice to the large cos. that do contract work with them, have a good attorney review the contract so they can't hold you hostage without penalties.

 

[Jet-Daytona]

I think you need to put the bong down. There are not jobs created- only shifted. There is no increase in consumption- only shifting.

Yes, lower prices, but also lower wages. Hence, a lower standard of living. That's how that works. The cost of living for these folks will still increase, BTW.

The cities do not care where they get the tax revenue from, so the Wal Mart workers pay just like everyone else (except they have a lower earnings to begin with).

When Wal Mart opened in Palm Desert, they negotiated a 5 year tax-exempt deal. Essentially, they didn't have to pay the city for 5 years.

When the 5 years was up, they wanted to re-negotiate, and turn the store into a Supercenter. When the city put it's foot down on no more tax-exempt status, Wal Mart negotiated another deal with the city next door.

They moved a couple miles down the road- same shoppers, but no revenue for they city that stuck by them when they needed zoning to open in the first place.

If you wanna shop with your conscience- no problem. Boycott Wal Mart, but purchase their stock. Heck, with their emerging markets (like China), they don't need growth in the US stores.

Great Post,I know a Beer Rep.and they hate all these stores as he explains it it is a "PIE" there is only so much beer going to be sold.This could be one store or 200 stores it is costly to go to all these stores delivering and setting up displays.The only way they increase sales is taking customers away from another brand or type of alcohol,but as you said just shifting customers from one store to another.

 

[musicFunsun]

Interesting thread. I do shop WalMart(and Target and K-Mart) however, I must prepare before going so I keep my temper in check. I just don't understand why so many people that shop there are so rude:grumble: The other day though, I could hardly keep from laughing, a family was walking in ahead of me and one kid, 16 or 17 was wearing pajama's, slippers and a blanket around her for a coat

 

[TeamGreene]

I go there because it's non union fuck unions in the neck. Now that the economy is in the tank I've got all the union construction assholes out here taking work from me without licence's no less. So don't preach to me how Walmart sucks because their not union because there are a lot of union jerk off's pulling worse shit than Walmart does. Besides when someone applies to work there it's all up front and they know what the pay is. Why don't you union fuck protest McDonalds? Or other places that pay minimum wage?

 

[Dave Wettlaufer]

LOL...because people are selective in their outrage?

 

[Cole Trickle]

I shop whats easy and cheep.....

Like mentioned above I buy all my motor oil at Wallmart(Mobil 1 for wayyy cheaper in a 5 quart jug).

I had a nice conversation with a kid working the register that had a masters in biology and was trying to find a job. I live in a nice area and the wallmart is no different than shopping at Albertsons.

 

[HBCraig]

Why don't you union fuck protest McDonalds? Or other places that pay minimum wage?

Because the union guys are working instead of protesting. :thumbsup