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I am wondering if there are any wake surfers that have tried real surfing after trying it behind the boat. I realize many live in locations where that isn't possible, but lets face it...most people visiting the river or lake are west coast folks who live within the reach of the ocean.

and yes Dave you should try it.



This is not true. Any wakeboard boat can be used as a surf boat by doing a few modifications. Doesn't matter where you live. To put things in perspective.

Malibu boats is located in Tennessee and Australia.
Ski Nautique is located in Florida, Tige boats is located in Texas. Mastercraft (publicly traded company) built in Tennessee. They are absolutely huge in their home/manufacturing states.

To be honest, I think there are way less wakeboard boats in California then a ton of other states. We are 4-8 hours away from a decent lake. A ton of wake boat owners live 15-20 minute drive to their local lakes, they ride daily. (Not rare to see 1-2 year boats on the used market with 300-400 hours) Maybe an hour drive for their larger lakes. It's very hard to justify a 90-200k purchase to use a few times out of the year. You gotta really love that lifestyle.

Manufacturers host huge events weekly in so many states but the west coast. Competitions, challenges, for surfing, wakeboarding.

There are people all over the world buying up wakeboard boats and this is no lie. Definitely not just a west coast thing. I'm going to go on a limb and say between the top 5 builders, they are selling a minimum of 900-1000 boats a month state wide and globally.

Are the new boats aimed more at surfing? Sure, that's what the market wants. You can now surf with a touch of a button straight from the factory with 0 modifications.

I've got 10 different wakesurf boards in my garage. Different variations, different sizes, 8-9 wakeboards, etc.

Never attempted real surfing, I live 30 minutes away from the beach. I'm not going to buy a surf board and head out to the beach to go ride by myself or another friend.

I'd rather pack up my family, nieces, nephews and friends, head up to the river and do 3 or 4 different activities on the boat then just 1 at the beach.

It's not just the wake surf that people are addicted to, it's the whole package. Family time, being at the lake together, kids surfing, boarding, tubing, playing cornhole on the beach, bbqing, having a drink, relaxing. It's being on vacation that anyone can enjoy.

Hard to experience all of that at the beach for 3-4 days with 10-12 people.
 

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Wake surfing is fun for the whole family. I've had a go fast boat and now a wake boat. My Malibu is far more fun. Sure I miss the sound of the 496, but the smiles on my families face is priceless. And surfing is really fun for me too. Progressive every time out is gratifying. Don't knock it until you try it
 

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Wake surfing is fun for the whole family. I've had a go fast boat and now a wake boat. My Malibu is far more fun. Sure I miss the sound of the 496, but the smiles on my families face is priceless. And surfing is really fun for me too. Progressive every time out is gratifying. Don't knock it until you try it

Outboards suck but, wakeboard boats really suck.
Tried it in sixth grade when hydroslides came out. Did it in the 80s with a real,short, 5'5" thruster and it was even more boring. Want a challenge? Try waterskiing. But I guess that goes against the will of our instant gratification society.
 

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Outboards suck but, wakeboard boats really suck.
Tried it in sixth grade when hydroslides came out. Did it in the 80s with a real,short, 5'5" thruster and it was even more boring. Want a challenge? Try waterskiing. But I guess that goes against the will of our instant gratification society.

I've done it all bub. I can ski, wakeboard and wakesurf. If wake surfing was so easy then I guess everyone would be a world champion at it. Sure anyone can get up and ride. Doing tricks isn't as easy as everyone thinks.
 

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I've done it all bub. I can ski, wakeboard and wakesurf. If wake surfing was so easy then I guess everyone would be a world champion at it. Sure anyone can get up and ride. Doing tricks isn't as easy as everyone thinks.

Funny, you didn't list actually surfing...bub
 

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Comedy classics....back pedal back pedal back pedal
 

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In a Spicolli voice, "Hey bro, did you see the size of that wake?" Said no person who can actually surf.
 

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That's funny. People get butt hurt today over wake surfing.
 

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That's funny. People get butt hurt today over wake surfing.

No, we get butt hurt over the way most of the dipshits drive their wake surfing boats and the mess they leave behind them.
 

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No, we get butt hurt over the way most of the dipshits drive their wake surfing boats and the mess they leave behind them.

Where I boat there are 70' yachts, so my wake isn't any bigger than theirs.
 

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Where I boat there are 70' yachts, so my wake isn't any bigger than theirs.

I've never seen a 70ft yacht going around in circles all day long.
 

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I don't go in circles either. Good thing for you we both live on separate parts of the country. You won't have to worry about my wake
 

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I don't go in circles either. Good thing for you we both live on separate parts of the country. You won't have to worry about my wake

I guess you dock start and never let go....you are superman. Way to go. Nobody ever falls wakesnurfing behind Padge's boat. Yay! And if you do fall, he never comes back for ya because he never goes in circles. Get ready for the back pedal.
 

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Lol. Normally if I do turn around I'm not creating a wake
 

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No, we get butt hurt over the way most of the dipshits drive their wake surfing boats and the mess they leave behind them.

"Nobody listens to Turtle...":D
 

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I don't live anywhere close to a beach. But I'm sure I could if I tried at it enough

Never attempted real surfing, I live 30 minutes away from the beach. I'm not going to buy a surf board and head out to the beach to go ride by myself or another friend.

:headscratch:

Spicoli? Jeff Spicoli? Is that you with all that "bud" talk?:yikes:D
 

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People who wake surf are the guys who paddle out at pipeline and sit in the line up, you didn't ACTUALLY surf ;)

You're looking pretty buff Tyler ...doing a lot of paddling lately? :p

You might give this a try.

[video=youtube;fOBsZ1mvW-4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOBsZ1mvW-4[/video]
 

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I thought the whole wake surf boat craze was because the owners enjoy swamping low pro boats and destroying docks.

Actually had one big wake boat owner tell me how proud he was that he could swamp boats like mine.

Broke the bulkhead out of my boat trying to maneuver around one of those big wake turds circling around to get his downed "surfer"

All it takes is one bad apple to spoil the bunch.

To hell with wake boats. :thumbsdown
 

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That's funny. People get butt hurt today over wake surfing.

No, what I get butt hurt about is the fucking idiot rolling a 4' wake in a narrow channel with traffic both ways and literally a dozen other boats of every genre trying to deal with his bullshit and not sink or knock shit around in their own boat because he's having "fun"...

WHY do they always aim for the most populated areas on the water?
 

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No, what I get butt hurt about is the fucking idiot rolling a 4' wake in a narrow channel with traffic both ways and literally a dozen other boats of every genre trying to deal with his bullshit and not sink or knock shit around in their own boat because he's having "fun"...

WHY do they always aim for the most populated areas on the water?
Must be different on that side of the country. I don't boat in the river so I can't comment on that. But I try to get away from people when we surf. Mainly for smoother water. What I like is people pulling tunes going around In circles around me trying to hit my wake.

Maybe you need to buy a bigger boat with more freedboard?
 

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Hey how about those damn old people in pontoons taking up all the prime spots in the channel? Fuck those guys!
 

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Must be different on that side of the country. I don't boat in the river so I can't comment on that. But I try to get away from people when we surf. Mainly for smoother water. What I like is people pulling tunes going around In circles around me trying to hit my wake.

Maybe you need to buy a bigger boat with more freedboard?

I have boated mostly on Shasta...never been on the river at parker or on Havasu.
Shasta is a big lake, fed by 4 rivers.

When I boat I look for the water where few people are at. I have my favorite spots and I don't expect anyone to have to give me any quarter because of my boating preference...that's my job because I choose to have a fast, low boat.

Anytime I have ever had any issue with any boater it is without fail the wakesurfer flatbiller...and it isn't just me.
The closest I've ever come to sinking was when an idiot was bagged and boarding right in the middle of traffic in one of the narrowest sections of one of the feeder rivers to shasta.
This spot is basically like a 2 lane road, and every boater was affected...not just me.
400 miles of shoreline and fuckface is tug boating right in the fucking middle of it.
Though this is the worst example in my experience, it certainly isn't the only example I've seen.

BTW, I love tubing!
 

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Been real surfing and wake surfing.
Actually love both. My favorite is wakeskating. Just because of the challenges. One thing about wake surfing is that I can do it at 2am drunk off my ass while eating pizza [emoji487]done this many of times. Naked!
With that said have a buddy that's been surfing for years and that stuff that he does on a wake is insane. There's levels for everything. And it's all perspective.
 

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It's good training for the real thing. In learning to surf real waves, there is a lot going on at the same time that the beginner has to manage or there will be no ride at all. And no ride = no progress. Wake surfing is a way to get some of it down in an easy controlled setting not limited by a short ride. For me, it will never replace surfing a real wave, but it might have been a big help early on during the learning stages.

I don't have a wake boat or any kind of towing boat and never will, BTW.

-Peter
 

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I've been along with my Daughter's family and watched the grandkids wake surf. I'm to old and stoved up to even try......But I fail to see how it even comes close to real surfing. And I don't see it coming close to slalom skiing. JMO;)
 

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Been real surfing and wake surfing.
Actually love both. My favorite is wakeskating. Just because of the challenges. One thing about wake surfing is that I can do it at 2am drunk off my ass while eating pizza [emoji487]done this many of times. Naked!
With that said have a buddy that's been surfing for years and that stuff that he does on a wake is insane. There's levels for everything. And it's all perspective.

This is very disturbing that you "wake surf naked at 2am with your buddy".
To each their own I guess.
 

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In all the years in, on, and around water, I have never seen a wakeboard boat full of women like that. I would have to say that 2/3's are just a bunch of trashy, rough, no boat manners boys trying their best to be macho punks.

Lots of one, but never the other.......
 

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Didn't read the whole thread so not sure if this has been said but definitely need pics of athletic in shape girl friend of this hasn't been done before I can weigh in:D
 

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Didn't read the whole thread so not sure if this has been said but definitely need pics of athletic in shape girl friend of this hasn't been done before I can weigh in:D
This is gf, wife is better 157345A2-0356-42EA-B822-CEE00EA8C5A1.jpg
 

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Ran into the old surf gang (surf buddies since the mid 70's) a couple of years ago in HB. I went and saw another of the old gang recently, Pastor Lance was obviously the smartest of the of the bunch...
 

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In all the years in, on, and around water, I have never seen a wakeboard boat full of women like that. I would have to say that 2/3's are just a bunch of trashy, rough, no boat manners boys trying their best to be macho punks.

Lots of one, but never the other.......



I'm pretty bad at statistics, but when it comes to judging each wake boat owner with their friends and family on their boat, do you personally write down your run ins with every boat on the water? Which boat passes your judgment, which doesn't. Or do you just look at the "trashy, rough girls" and assume every 2/3's are all the same. Do you write down stats on any other boat type? Just curious.



I'm usually just thinking about how to show my family and friends a good time, rather then judging others.

Since not many see our behavior and are quite busy wakeboarding, tubing, surfing, skiing, doing activities on the water, beaching on a quiet cove, how do I, sorry my family and friends fit into your statistic? I just want to be sure that I satisfy your assumptions/statistics.
 

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I'm pretty bad at statistics, but when it comes to judging each wake boat owner with their friends and family on their boat, do you personally write down your run ins with every boat on the water? Which boat passes your judgment, which doesn't. Or do you just look at the "trashy, rough girls" and assume every 2/3's are all the same. Do you write down stats on any other boat type? Just curious.

I'm usually just thinking about how to show my family and friends a good time, rather then judging others.

Since not many see our behavior and are quite busy wakeboarding, tubing, surfing, skiing, doing activities on the water, beaching on a quiet cove, how do I, sorry my family and friends fit into your statistic? I just want to be sure that I satisfy your assumptions/statistics.

Don't take it personally man. Wakeboats are fun I've heard and you gotta do what makes good memories and fun times for you, your family and friends. That's all that matters. I personally don't like Wakeboats but what I think doesn't mean jack shit. I've owned two Mazda Miatas in my life and the amount of shit I got from my friends, family and random people was hilarious. But even more hilarious was that I got more poontang in that car than in any of my cars before/since then. Haters gonna hate! Fuck em! :D
 
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