Two year old with fluoride deficiency

[SoCalDave]

Our 2 year old grandson has been dealing with tooth fluoride deficiency for about a year now. His dentist sees him once per month to monitor the decay as it can very well decay omto his permanent teeth. They have applied some type of medication to help stop the decay thus turning his teeth black. As a last resort they would put him under and remove all the decayed ones but for a 2 year old there are risk with going under.
Anyone else deal with this?

 

[HNL2LHC]

Never heard of this. I did hear that in Hawaii there is a huge amount of tooth issues because parents give kids a lot of sugary drinks like fruit punch. Best to the little guy. I hope that there is not much pain.

 

[JL95]

My daughter has no front baby teeth. Had to go under twice to get the removed one by one. I have no clue why she got bad dental genetics, her brothers are normal. She was ~3 and almost 5 for the procedure. She is 5 now so high hopes for her adult teeth. They did not mention fluoride deficiency as far as I know.

 

[rivergames]

My boy just turned 2 this past Saturday. Reading this thread tears me up.

I hope for the absolute best for your Grandson. My prayers are with him

 

[monkeyswrench]

Not much help with the tooth stuff, but I always thought fluoride was to help the enamel on the teeth, and calcium or something was what built them. With my sister's kids, they had everything against them: Mom didn't do her part when pregnant, gave kids sugary stuff young, and the one that surprised me...putting them to sleep with a bottle (probably cause my sis did the same with a different bottle) The milk, formula or juice would breakdown into a mix of acids and sugars, and act like paint stripper on the enamel. Luckily things had changed by the time adult teeth were coming in. They all still have great smiles now.

As for putting a kid under, I think I was about 10 the first time...also for an oral surgeon deal. I would be afraid to do it if the kid has and respiratory issues, like asthma or such. I think most anesthetics slow down respiration, so it would effect o2 levels

 

[attitude]

My daughter has no front baby teeth. Had to go under twice to get the removed one by one. I have no clue why she got bad dental genetics, her brothers are normal. She was ~3 and almost 5 for the procedure. She is 5 now so high hopes for her adult teeth. They did not mention fluoride deficiency as far as I know.

That’s how my 5 year old son is, when he was 3 he was put under so they could grind down and cap his front teeth, when we got called back into the room after the procedure he had no front teeth…

For new parents and grandparents, milk is very acidic, it has no problem eating through enamel of weak teeth.

 

[JBS]

Fluoride is actually pretty controversial. I would be looking at a calcium deficiency as others have pointed out. Look for the problem not the symptom. Good luck. I can't imagine what he is going through.

 

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[SoCalDave]

Not much help with the tooth stuff, but I always thought fluoride was to help the enamel on the teeth, and calcium or something was what built them. With my sister's kids, they had everything against them: Mom didn't do her part when pregnant, gave kids sugary stuff young, and the one that surprised me...putting them to sleep with a bottle (probably cause my sis did the same with a different bottle) The milk, formula or juice would breakdown into a mix of acids and sugars, and act like paint stripper on the enamel.

Yeah my daughter would let him nurse all night and I've read that it can cause tooth decay due tonthe high acids in breast milk?
He's a great little guy and I hate to see him go through this phase in his childhood. Digs into me...in a bad way.

 

[angiebaby]

Not much help with the tooth stuff, but I always thought fluoride was to help the enamel on the teeth, and calcium or something was what built them. With my sister's kids, they had everything against them: Mom didn't do her part when pregnant, gave kids sugary stuff young, and the one that surprised me...putting them to sleep with a bottle (probably cause my sis did the same with a different bottle) The milk, formula or juice would breakdown into a mix of acids and sugars, and act like paint stripper on the enamel. Luckily things had changed by the time adult teeth were coming in. They all still have great smiles now.

As for putting a kid under, I think I was about 10 the first time...also for an oral surgeon deal. I would be afraid to do it if the kid has and respiratory issues, like asthma or such. I think most anesthetics slow down respiration, so it would effect o2 levels

That happened to both of my nephews (same parents). They were put down to sleep with a bottle.

One had his teeth removed at about 3, if I recall? The younger one did not have as bad of an issue, so they were left to fall out naturally.

@SoCalDave is it painful for him? It looks like it would be, but I sure hope not

 

[SoCalDave]

That happened to both of my nephews (same parents). They were put down to sleep with a bottle.

One had his teeth removed at about 3, if I recall? The younger one did not have as bad of an issue, so they were left to fall out naturally.

@SoCalDave is it painful for him? It looks like it would be, but I sure hope not

Thanks for your concerns Angie. He doesn't seem to have much pain but it's hard for a 2 yo to express it at times.

 

[SoCalDave]

My daughter has no front baby teeth. Had to go under twice to get the removed one by one. I have no clue why she got bad dental genetics, her brothers are normal. She was ~3 and almost 5 for the procedure. She is 5 now so high hopes for her adult teeth. They did not mention fluoride deficiency as far as I know.

His older siblings have always had great dental hygiene so not sure what went south here for him other than the prolong nursing?

 

[txmxer1]

The night time bottle feeding is definitely a concern for babys who sleep with a bottle in, it keeps an acidic environment on the teeth which wears away at the already slightly weaker enamel in children.


As far as your grandson, hard to say without seeing him but fluoride deficiency can definitely cause advanced decay. Seeing the dentist monthly is the right move, goal for him would be remove hopeless teeth and stop them from affecting the permanent teeth, but then you also run into problems with the teeth coming in correctly since the baby teeth are place holders. Fyi there are quite a few other genetic disorders or deficiencies that can cause this but if hes seeing a pediatric dentist then they are well aware of these. Best of luck to your little one.

 

[RitcheyRch]

His older siblings have always had great dental hygiene so not sure what went south here for him other than the prolong nursing?

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Beautiful smile.

 

[gqchris]

Sorry Dave your lil guy going thru this. Pains me as mine is 3 and I complain about her picky eating and then you post this and I realize there is always a lil person going thru much worse. Please keep us posted on his recovery.