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Only in 'Merica does a trespasser who damages other peoples property get compensated...SMH
As an employee of BNSF and working the territory that that bridge covers I will state that there are numerous no trespassing signs all along the right away for the whole territory, as well there are 5 signs on that bridge per direction on both tracks.
You cannot put a fence around the railroad just like you cannot fix stupid, however about 15 years ago they put up railing as pertinence of a fence along the bridge to enact as a fence along the bridge. They also cannot block those ladders as those ladders are not meant to be a way up, but a way down incase of an emergency to train crew members like myself, in situation of immediate threat or derailment.
Yes a sign is not as strong-holding as an actual fence but those signs as well I do believe they are stencil spray painted on the uprights and across the physical bridge "NO TRASPASSING BNSF PROPERTY" will eliviate them from a suit against them. However sadly most the time the railroads will make settlement with trespassers that are injured as to stop an issue with a suit.
But that being said the rail industry has changed a lot in recent past and I see them countering any claim with a suit of their own, and you gotta have some seriously deep pockets to go against any Class 1 railroad specially one owned by one of the biggest corporate conglomerates as BNSF owned by Berkshire Hathaway!
Sad for the girl injured in the boat as well all who partook in the rescue and viewing of an absolute moron thinking it's cool to jump off a 20+ foot bridge into 8-10' deep water if that. I'll tell you this the water looks very shallow from my angle going over it!!
Oh and FYI all of us working this subdivision of rail are sad when we honk at boaters we aren't looking for you to wave your hands we are waiting desperately seeking tits, yes big small medium any size just looking for a nice flesh flash to make our day oh so much better! Thanks 
As an employee of BNSF.....right away
and you gotta have some seriously deep pockets to go against any Class 1 railroad specially one owned by one of the biggest corporate conglomerates as BNSF owned by Berkshire Hathaway!
Sad for the girl injured in the boat as well all who partook in the rescue and viewing of an absolute moron thinking it's cool to jump off a 20+ foot bridge into 8-10' deep water if that. I'll tell you this the water looks very shallow from my angle going over it!!
Oh and FYI all of us working this subdivision of rail are sad when we honk at boaters we aren't looking for you to wave your hands we are waiting desperately seeking tits, yes big small medium any size just looking for a nice flesh flash to make our day oh so much better! Thanks [emoji1417][emoji577][emoji577]
I'm sure the BNSF is proud to have you as a spokesperson.
Idiot.
Edit: and complete asshole...there was only one idiot and asshole when this thread started...the dipshit that jumped. You've now joined his rank
An innocent girl got hurt, and this prick is spouting off about how bad ass his company is, yet fails to understand the difference between right away and right of way then moves on to titties.
Whilst TittAys are lots of fun, they have no place in a thread like this
As an employee of BNSF and working the territory that that bridge covers I will state that there are numerous no trespassing signs all along the right away for the whole territory, as well there are 5 signs on that bridge per direction on both tracks.
You cannot put a fence around the railroad just like you cannot fix stupid, however about 15 years ago they put up railing as pertinence of a fence along the bridge to enact as a fence along the bridge. They also cannot block those ladders as those ladders are not meant to be a way up, but a way down incase of an emergency to train crew members like myself, in situation of immediate threat or derailment.
Yes a sign is not as strong-holding as an actual fence but those signs as well I do believe they are stencil spray painted on the uprights and across the physical bridge "NO TRASPASSING BNSF PROPERTY" will eliviate them from a suit against them. However sadly most the time the railroads will make settlement with trespassers that are injured as to stop an issue with a suit.
But that being said the rail industry has changed a lot in recent past and I see them countering any claim with a suit of their own, and you gotta have some seriously deep pockets to go against any Class 1 railroad specially one owned by one of the biggest corporate conglomerates as BNSF owned by Berkshire Hathaway!
Sad for the girl injured in the boat as well all who partook in the rescue and viewing of an absolute moron thinking it's cool to jump off a 20+ foot bridge into 8-10' deep water if that. I'll tell you this the water looks very shallow from my angle going over it!!
Oh and FYI all of us working this subdivision of rail are sad when we honk at boaters we aren't looking for you to wave your hands we are waiting desperately seeking tits, yes big small medium any size just looking for a nice flesh flash to make our day oh so much better! Thanks 
Signs are ignored.
Fences are climbed.
We as a society need to stop working so hard protecting idiots from themselves, because it affects the rest of us negatively.
Nope, he isn't. He shed some light on a topic that had been brought up by several in this thread and then stated the obvious about BNSF being a huge company and prosecutors needing deep pockets to go after them. The titties comment.... oh boo hoo..... go cry somewhere else.I'm sure the BNSF is proud to have you as a spokesperson.
Idiot.
Edit: and complete asshole...there was only one idiot and asshole when this thread started...the dipshit that jumped. You've now joined his rank
I'm sure the BNSF is proud to have you as a spokesperson.
Idiot.
Edit: and complete asshole...there was only one idiot and asshole when this thread started...the dipshit that jumped. You've now joined his rank
This..
If you need a warning notice that your coffee might be hot, or that jumping off a bridge onto a boat might hurt, then why don't we just let you kill yourself. And change the law so we can bill you for picking up the mess you left. Life would be so much simpler if the LEOs would let stupid hurt, and stop trying to protect the idiots from themselves. You cannot be there 100% of the time. Stupid happens. So why try to ruin everyone else's life, to try to save the idiot from themselves, knowing full well the idiot will still do it wrong..
And what is your prescription when one person's stupidity affects another innocent person? For example the girl on the boat whom this individual landed on and seriously injured. Stupidity does not just harm the irresponsible party and as the saying goes "your right to swing your arm ends where my nose begins."
And what is your prescription when one person's stupidity affects another innocent person? For example the girl on the boat whom this individual landed on and seriously injured. Stupidity does not just harm the irresponsible party and as the saying goes "your right to swing your arm ends where my nose begins."
You are absolutely right, she was assaulted by an idiot, he should be charged with attempted murder and put away. But unfortunately what tends to happen is "we should shut the river down so no one gets hurt by idiots jumping of the bridge" even though it is clearly illegal already.
You missed the point being made, instead of punishing the idiot, the powers that be will find a way to punish the rest of us who were playing the by the already too strict rules. SRice, I appreciate your willingness to come on and try to have the conversation, however I personally would like the conversation to start with, we the people own this federal land and as such have the right to enjoy it freely. It is not owned by those in the tower who we are paying. There is too little respect given to the public and way too much "authority" being abused.
Please spend a month dealing only with complete morons, not families just trying to have a nice day on the lake. Instead of DUI inspections, sorry "safety checks", pull over the idiot running 20 through Thompson bay, or the jet ski who just has to jump the wake in front of us, or even an idiot running the river at 120 who intentionally roosted the kayak (btw my guess is you won't find too many of those). Every one of us, including you I am sure, has been affected by these idiots every time we hit the water. The safety checks are not making the impact you are looking for. That safety check should be accomplished at the launch ramp and used as education not enforcement. The idiots, lets try enforcement there.
Please reread this before flaming; SRice, I appreciate your willingness to come on and try to have the conversation.
Absolutely.
We all know there are problem areas on the river. Have the patrol boats hang out in those places!
To me, the safety check thing is just to generate income, not solve any real problems. Slam the fuck-ups as hard as you legally can. This kid (that jumped off the bridge) should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible!!!!!!!!!! If that was my daughter he fucked up, I wouldn't give a shit how bad he is hurt. I'd want the book thrown at him.
Once you start making examples of the people that are fucking it up for the rest of us, the assholes will straighten out. Put that kid behind bars where he belongs. Let him heal up in dam jail cell. And let him cry to his mama how unfair it all is. And post it up for the world to see.
See how many jumpers you have after that...
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Slam the fuck-ups as hard as you legally can. This kid (that jumped off the bridge) should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible!!!!!!!!!! I'd want the book thrown at him.
No bro...You will still have jumpers.....because crazy doesn't listen to reason, and stupid doesn't listen for shit
No bro...
The issue here is lack penalty when someone fucks up theses days.
Kill someone? You're out in five with good behavior. I say bring good back the electric chair.
Ruin a girl for life? You got hurt too, so that's enough punishment for you. I say that fuck up should be in county.
There is no personal responsibility anymore because nobody will enforce it! Make the penalty worse than the crime, and you'll see a big attitude change.
The liberals have ruined this world. It's a sad state of affairs. [emoji107]
You are correct all these agencies think they own us and the public property. They are nothing more than stewards in reality. Yet the try to be sole proprietors.You are absolutely right, she was assaulted by an idiot, he should be charged with attempted murder and put away. But unfortunately what tends to happen is "we should shut the river down so no one gets hurt by idiots jumping of the bridge" even though it is clearly illegal already.
You missed the point being made, instead of punishing the idiot, the powers that be will find a way to punish the rest of us who were playing the by the already too strict rules. SRice, I appreciate your willingness to come on and try to have the conversation, however I personally would like the conversation to start with, we the people own this federal land and as such have the right to enjoy it freely. It is not owned by those in the tower who we are paying. There is too little respect given to the public and way too much "authority" being abused.
Please spend a month dealing only with complete morons, not families just trying to have a nice day on the lake. Instead of DUI inspections, sorry "safety checks", pull over the idiot running 20 through Thompson bay, or the jet ski who just has to jump the wake in front of us, or even an idiot running the river at 120 who intentionally roosted the kayak (btw my guess is you won't find too many of those). Every one of us, including you I am sure, has been affected by these idiots every time we hit the water. The safety checks are not making the impact you are looking for. That safety check should be accomplished at the launch ramp and used as education not enforcement. The idiots, lets try enforcement there.
Please reread this before flaming; SRice, I appreciate your willingness to come on and try to have the conversation.
I agree, and this will help, but you will still have jumpers for the same reasons we have street racing that ends up In murder charges and 20 years behind bars. Because stupid doesn't listen. The LEO doesn't mess around with street racing anymore, vehicles impounded just for being there. They throw the book at you. Still happens nightly
Crazy....well crazy is crazy and doesn't care!
Can we get back to basics please? I wanna see this jumper locked up and put away!!!
Twenty years, and out in five. Impounded cars? Couple hundred bucks and they get em back in the morning.
Fry a few, and all the idiots will settle right down.
In this situation as well...
The real problem, is not being addressed.
Can we get back to basics please? I wanna see this jumper locked up and put away!!!
Joe, it's a kid that made a mistake and had some bad judgement.. There is no malicious intent here. While it sucks what happened, sometimes accidents do happen, even if there is negligence. Kids have to be afforded the opportunity to make mistakes. The fact that in the current era they aren't allowed to make any is part of the problem with society as a whole.
What you are suggesting could be applied to a hundred different scenarios.. Someone jumps off the top of a dune, and collides with someone else.. All of a sudden it's criminal because they didn't use good judgement by having a spotter? I'm not a dune guy so that's probably a shitty example, and for all I know it might be criminal.. i'm just saying it's a kid that jumped off something high.. Pretty sure he wasn't thinking a boat would be appearing beneath him. Shit happens.. Bad on the kid for sure, but I'm sure he's learning from his mistakes right now in the hospital.
Yes the kid made a mistake, but he needs to be held accountable for all damage his mistake caused.
IMO the jumper should have to pay all medical bills for the injured girl and reimburse boat owner for fixing all damage he caused to the boat. No need for jail, but he needs to pay to fix what he broke!
Guess you'll be voting for Hillary then?Joe, it's a kid that made a mistake and had some bad judgement.. There is no malicious intent here. While it sucks what happened, sometimes accidents do happen, even if there is negligence. Kids have to be afforded the opportunity to make mistakes. The fact that in the current era they aren't allowed to make any is part of the problem with society as a whole.
What you are suggesting could be applied to a hundred different scenarios.. Someone jumps off the top of a dune, and collides with someone else.. All of a sudden it's criminal because they didn't use good judgement by having a spotter? I'm not a dune guy so that's probably a shitty example, and for all I know it might be criminal.. i'm just saying it's a kid that jumped off something high.. Pretty sure he wasn't thinking a boat would be appearing beneath him. Shit happens.. Bad on the kid for sure, but I'm sure he's learning from his mistakes right now in the hospital.
Yes the kid made a mistake, but he needs to be held accountable for all damage his mistake caused.
IMO the jumper should have to pay all medical bills for the injured girl and reimburse boat owner for fixing all damage he caused to the boat. No need for jail, but he needs to pay to fix what he broke!
Guess you'll be voting for Hillary then?
Think you'd still feel the same way if your daughter had suffered from this?
Just being on that bridge is a criminal act. Or did you miss that part too?
My gawd. What has happened to common sense anymore...
I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do or not either Dave.I dunno Joe.. when I was a kid one of the most popular past times as going to Trestles and jumping off the train tracks into the ocean as the train approached..
I guess myself and everyone else should still be in jail for that.. Also did a lot of street racing.. I know I am not the only one that received two page fix it tickets.. but maybe we should all be fined for laying tracks on the pavement for reparations..
Lots of people blew up mailboxes with fireworks to home made explosives.. That is probably a terrorist act now?
This is some kids that were jumping off shit into the river.. one kid went big and it ended badly. I not sure sticking the kid up on a cross is the right thing here is all I am saying.
I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do or not either Dave.
But I can tell you this...
When I was young and doing my share of stupid shit, always in the back of my mind was...
What's going to happen if I get caught? How bad will my dad beat my ass??
If it was gonna be worth it to take an ass whooping, then full steam ahead, let's do this!
All I'm saying is, let let the punishment equal or beat the crime. A slap on the wrist, never has, and is never is, gonna cut it.
You didn't have My dad! LoLId rather take an ass whopping from pops then sit in jail. I'm sure landing on a boat was the last thing he saw happening.
You didn't have My dad! LoL
I'd rather be in jail. Woulda been much safer there. [emoji14]
I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do or not either Dave.
But I can tell you this...
When I was young and doing my share of stupid shit, always in the back of my mind was...
What's going to happen if I get caught? How bad will my dad beat my ass??
If it was gonna be worth it to take an ass whooping, then full steam ahead, let's do this!
All I'm saying is, let let the punishment equal or beat the crime. A slap on the wrist, never has, and is never is, gonna cut it.
[emoji23] that was good
Not everything I post is meant to be funny, I'm serious as a heart attack here! I lived in fear of my dad. Looking back now, it wasn't such a bad thing.
And look...
NOBODY has to agree with me. You can think whatever you want.
All I can think about is how that girls dad must feel. How that poor girl must feel. How badly I'd want revenge and to see that kid suffer BADLY for what he did to my kid.
And like Mr. Rice, how to make sure this Never happens again.
Yes I know you can't fix stupid. Yeah I know, there will always be thrill seekers out there. But jezuz, can you at least get Half a brain and go kill yourself without fucking up anyone else??
This shit hits home to me. I have kids. I go to the river. To set out on an enjoyable time, only to end up in the hospital cause of somebody else's fucking retarded mistake, is why I never go to the river in the summer. Spring and fall only for me.
My heart ACHES for that family. My heart hurts for that girl.
Peace.
My parents have seen me get hurt on accident. Football, ju jitsu, soccer. They never wanted to see the other person who hurt me on accident suffer.
I dunno Joe.. when I was a kid one of the most popular past times as going to Trestles and jumping off the train tracks into the ocean as the train approached..
I guess myself and everyone else should still be in jail for that.. Also did a lot of street racing.. I know I am not the only one that received two page fix it tickets.. but maybe we should all be fined for laying tracks on the pavement for reparations..
Lots of people blew up mailboxes with fireworks to home made explosives.. That is probably a terrorist act now?
This is some kids that were jumping off shit into the river.. one kid went big and it ended badly. I not sure sticking the kid up on a cross is the right thing here is all I am saying.
good chance I blew up your mailbox in Carlsbad.