Twin Whacker Builders

[Outdrive1]

I agree with OD1. For me I would like to have the plusher interior and amenities verses that last MPH.

If you want a stripped down race boat I get it. If you want all the badass rigging. The looks. The gel not paint. The lights. The stereo. The wow factor. Then you aren't trying to squeeze the last 5mph out of your boat. Rough water? An F29 is very capable. But I'm not boating in 20mph wind anyhow. The boats I own I don't like water spots above the water line. Lol.

Each has a purpose. If your gonna race offshore get a Skater or DW. If you want turnkey fast luxury you buy a DCB.

Lol. This should get the thread going. [emoji12]

 

[HavaToon]

That's pretty much verbatim as to what I was going to say. Although for some reason I thought the M-29 ran like 116/117 for some reason?

RD

The M29 may very well have reached 116/117. I could only find 113 but I think that was its maiden voyage.

 

[RiverDave]

If you want a stripped down race boat I get it. If you want all the badass rigging. The looks. The gel not paint. The lights. The stereo. The wow factor. Then you aren't trying to squeeze the last 5mph out of your boat. Rough water? An F29 is very capable. But I'm not boating in 20mph wind anyhow. The boats I own I don't like water spots above the water line. Lol.

Each has a purpose. If your gonna race offshore get a Skater or DW. If you want turnkey fast luxury you buy a DCB.

Lol. This should get the thread going. [emoji12] View attachment 526703

Just curious as to why you say DCB and don't mention Eliminator? The 28 Speedster does it all and leaves pretty much everything in it's wake. :yikes

 

[Outdrive1]

Just curious as to why you say DCB and don't mention Eliminator? The 28 Speedster does it all and leaves pretty much everything in it's wake. :yikes

The one Speedster was a stripped down version of the Speedster. And seriously dave? Why not a Spectra instead of a Schiada? Speedsters are nice but they no M series. I've been in both. That being said for 2/3 the price they are pretty nice.

 

[28skater]

Ok In my opinion the West Coast builds are by far the best gelcoat and interior finish to be had the DCB are just fuckin pimp!

Top speed one time numbers with light fuel and big props are not the real story.

If you turned all these boats loose to run from Long Beach around Catalina and back who would be the lead boats? Im ready for this run and down 200 hp.

After all these are 28 and 30 foot offshore boats right? :lmao

 

[Outdrive1]

Ok In my opinion the West Coast builds are by far the best gelcoat and interior finish to be had the DCB are just fuckin pimp!

Top speed one time numbers with light fuel and big props are not the real story.

If you turned all these boats loose to run from Long Beach around Catalina and back who would be the lead boats? Im ready for this run and down 200 hp.

After all these are 28 and 30 foot offshore boats right? :lmao

Lol.

 

[HavaToon]

Ok In my opinion the West Coast builds are by far the best gelcoat and interior finish to be had the DCB are just fuckin pimp!

Top speed one time numbers with light fuel and big props are not the real story.

If you turned all these boats loose to run from Long Beach around Catalina and back who would be the lead boats? Im ready for this run and down 200 hp.

After all these are 28 and 30 foot offshore boats right? :lmao

What makes these an "offshore boat"? Size? The builder or someone else saying it?

Let's be honest the vast majority of these west coast boats will never be used offshore. Not because they can't but because that's not where buyers/owners intend to use them. They intend to use them on fresh water lakes and rivers.

 

[RiverDave]

The one Speedster was a stripped down version of the Speedster. And seriously dave? Why not a Spectra instead of a Schiada? Speedsters are nice but they no M series. I've been in both. That being said for 2/3 the price they are pretty nice.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose. That twin 700 Speedster I rode in with Tony is still among my favorite boats of all time.

RD

 

[Riverbound]

I can see my neon sign already....:thumbsup

Its "in the mail" kinida like the shirt thing if you use an advertiser.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

I believe most of the west coast builders make beautiful boats with DCB being at the top of the list as far as bling and WOW factor. I was recently shopping for a 28-30' twin outboard cat that would handle rough water along with an aluminum trailer. Shueman had a fantastic 27' twin outboard that was beautiful but I couldn't justify spending 100k on a gorgeous boat that wouldn't handle rough water. I decided to pass on that 27 and was lucky enough to find a screaming deal on a 2008 Skater 308 locally. I spent a little more money than I wanted to but now have a boat that will do everything we need it to. Like Dave said, different strokes for everyone. I still think it would be very interesting to hear from true professionals about their feelings on how all of these boats in this size drive, turn, accelerate, and all around performance. The fit and finish seems to be no contest with DCB out front but Eliminator and Nordic don't seem far behind. I would never begin to compare rigging, fit/finish of our Skater versus DCB/Eliminator/Nordic.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I agree... And god help you if you have a really small boat.. They don't make anything worth a shit in that market anymore.

I don't think they'd get on plane if you started putting a bunch of passengers in the back..
RD

Yup, us small boat guys are pretty screwed with new motors.

And if a twin engine boat running 800hp can't get on plane with 8 people in it, there is seriously something wrong. My little 18' with 200hp can roll onto plane pretty easily with 8 people and a bunch of shit in it. Tabs help in this dept. A LOT lol!.

 

[milkmoney]

Jus when I thought I had narrowed it down on which boat to buy. You assclowns start this shit again.
At this rate I might as well jus buy a damn canoe [emoji12][emoji202]

 

[DSMITH]

These new twin 400 outboard boats are peaking my interest. Just don't know if I could personally get over the sound of a V8

 

[RiverDave]

Its "in the mail" kinida like the shirt thing if you use an advertiser.

Did we miss someone on that shirt contest? Because we sent out every single one that I was aware of during the time period of Memorial to Laborday?

Yup, us small boat guys are pretty screwed with new motors.

And if a twin engine boat running 800hp can't get on plane with 8 people in it, there is seriously something wrong. My little 18' with 200hp can roll onto plane pretty easily with 8 people and a bunch of shit in it. Tabs help in this dept. A LOT lol!.

With the newer heavier outboards, sometimes they struggle to get on plane.. Especially the 2 strokes.

RD

 

[FreeBird236]

Did we miss someone on that shirt contest? Because we sent out every single one that I was aware of during the time period of Memorial to Laborday?



With the newer heavier outboards, sometimes they struggle to get on plane.. Especially the 2 strokes.

RD

Dave I thought the two strokes were better at getting on plane with more initial torque?:headscratch:

 

[RCDave]

The 300xs doesn't weight materially more than the former 300x. The XS has is larger displacement with more low end torque than the X.

 

[HavaToon]

Dave I thought the two strokes were better at getting on plane with more initial torque?:headscratch:

I can speak to this from experience the new 4 strokes get on plane better than 2 strokes on these bigger boats. These bigger tunnel boats push a lot of water when planing.

My Nordic 29 with twin 300xs was considerably slower to plane than the new ones with 400's.

 

[138]

With the newer heavier outboards, sometimes they struggle to get on plane.. Especially the 2 strokes.

RD[/QUOTE]

My single 28 offshore plug with a 300xs does just fine with bait, skier and a full load. Set up is the key to outboards and there is a big learning curve.

 

[HavaToon]

With the newer heavier outboards, sometimes they struggle to get on plane.. Especially the 2 strokes.

RD

My single 28 offshore plug with a 300xs does just fine with bait, skier and a full load. Set up is the key to outboards and there is a big learning curve.[/QUOTE]

Agreed set up is key and there is a big learning curve, but your 28 is a V which is way different than a tunnel. V's will alway plane faster than a tunnel. Even with an I/O tunnels are still naturally slower to plane.

 

[drejustice]

I can speak to this from experience the new 4 strokes get on plane better than 2 strokes on these bigger boats. These bigger tunnel boats push a lot of water when planing.

My Nordic 29 with twin 300xs was considerably slower to plane than the new ones with 400's.

True statement. Much easier to get on plane with the 400s on our DCB as well.

 

[FreeBird236]

I can speak to this from experience the new 4 strokes get on plane better than 2 strokes on these bigger boats. These bigger tunnel boats push a lot of water when planing.

My Nordic 29 with twin 300xs was considerably slower to plane than the new ones with 400's.

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but aren't we talking different size and horsepower engines here?

 

[138]

My single 28 offshore plug with a 300xs does just fine with bait, skier and a full load. Set up is the key to outboards and there is a big learning curve.

Agreed set up is key and there is a big learning curve, but your 28 is a V which is way different than a tunnel. V's will alway plane faster than a tunnel. Even with an I/O tunnels are still naturally slower to plane.[/QUOTE]

I have been wrong before but the 28 I am talking about is a cat. I will dig up some photos when I get a chance.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but aren't we talking different size and horsepower engines here?

Exactly. Comparing planning time between a boat rigged with 2 300xs vs the same with 400's isn't really comparing 2 stroke vs 4 when there is a 33% horsepower difference between the 2.

It's like putting a 300xs on my boat and saying the direct injection is why It planes faster than my current carbed 200.

 

[drejustice]

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but aren't we talking different size and horsepower engines here?

with 400s you have more weight hanging off the transom which if similar HP and torque you'd think harder to roll over.

We hung the 400's on but moved them closer to the transom. Even with the additional weight, we roll over quicker and easier. (torque and HP)
We picked up 12-13 mph in real everyday situational use. .i.e. full of fuel, 2 anchors on board, coolers, gear, etc.

 

[RiverDave]

Not sure how many of you are in the "From the Mold" section, but Noli has three build threads on exotic twin outboard cats, and ETicket started one on their new 25 that looks like a mini skater.. If you are into the outboard hot rods you might want to check those threads out

 

[HavaToon]

Not sure how many of you are in the "From the Mold" section, but Noli has three build threads on exotic twin outboard cats, and ETicket started one on their new 25 that looks like a mini skater.. If you are into the outboard hot rods you might want to check those threads out

Subscribed to them all. Thats a candy store for me.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Not sure how many of you are in the "From the Mold" section, but Noli has three build threads on exotic twin outboard cats, and ETicket started one on their new 25 that looks like a mini skater.. If you are into the outboard hot rods you might want to check those threads out

Been watching all of them. But in reality they are all pretty similar. Giant boats (where we boat 28' is huge) with very small interiors and a lot of useless empty cavities

I'm just a bit disappointed that nobody is building a boat that looks good (closed bow) and fully utilizes the interior space outboards free up.

 

[daveb1]

My M28 with dos 400's will spray first week Feb. I will keep you updated!

i bet it did not get finished in feb. they told me to expect the first one tested in april

 

[X-rated]

Sorry Dave, where I come from spraying means laying up the hull. It has been "sprayed" it is not finished.

 

[boat527]

Been watching all of them. But in reality they are all pretty similar. Giant boats (where we boat 28' is huge) with very small interiors and a lot of useless empty cavities

I'm just a bit disappointed that nobody is building a boat that looks good (closed bow) and fully utilizes the interior space outboards free up.

Well.. There is always Hallett...They'll make whatever you want ( Closed bow)

 

[HST4ME]

Well.. There is always Hallett...They'll make whatever you want ( Closed bow)

That boat is the shit. I fell in love with it the first time I saw a write up on it. Absolutely gorgeous.:thumbsup