Turtle cove lowdown?

[FREAK JUICE]

Anyone here on RD's have the real lowdown on the Turtles new charge policy for cove parking???? Heard it was $20 bucks for 2 hrs. now. WTF:thumbsdown

 

[79 HUSTLER]

Yep, $20 for 2 hours was posted all over the cove as of yesterday. I will try and upload a pic we took yesterday. Was maybe 10 boats total in there while we were there.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

The cove or the docks or both?

 

[79 HUSTLER]

The entire cove from end to end. The first set of docks is not usable right now (looks like monsoon damage) The second set had no signs that I saw.

 

[79 HUSTLER]

Anyone here on RD's have the real lowdown on the Turtles new charge policy for cove parking???? Heard it was $20 bucks for 2 hrs. now. WTF:thumbsdown

You must have seen my post on PB. Being a local and there all the time you can take it for what its worth but I'm not one to BS. Maybe someone else can give you the real lowdown.

 

[Phebus]

Let's see, $100.00+ dollars for fuel, $80.00 dollars for food and drinks for two, and now $20.00 just for the privelige of doing so?

I think not. South end of lake just got a whole lot more attractive.

That kind of money you would think the Indians owned it.

 

[NoDoz]

$20 for boat parking? Someone is actually going to lose some money on this.

 

[79 HUSTLER]

$20 for boat parking? Someone is actually going to lose some money on this.

In the 1 1/2 hour we were there we saw no less then 10 boats pull up only to pull right back out. May have just been moving to the other side but only saw 1 person whip out some cash.

 

[Kylemenz1]

I don't understand this type of business? I would think that if a business made it very easy to access their establishment, had good but cheap food and drinks, and packed their place to the brim they would make a ton more money. I'm not a business major or an economist so what the "F" do I know.

 

[FREAK JUICE]

You must have seen my post on PB. Being a local and there all the time you can take it for what its worth but I'm not one to BS. Maybe someone else can give you the real lowdown.

Yes, I did see that post over there. Just wanted alittle more info. Do you know if guests will still be parking in the cove for free? Is the charge aera where the visitor parking was / is? Just hard for me to beleive there doing this. We freequent the Turtle often

 

[Singleton]

Yes, I did see that post over there. Just wanted alittle more info. Do you know if guests will still be parking in the cove for free? Is the charge aera where the visitor parking was / is? Just hard for me to beleive there doing this. We freequent the Turtle often

Based on a conversation I had Friday night, if you want to park in the cove and you are a guest you have to pay a fee as well.

Docks are 1 hour limit and free. Everything in the cove is pay per use.

 

[Not So Fast]

FUCK'EM, dont need the GD place anyway, hope they fall flat on their asses:swear
NSF

 

[bilz]

Guess that's how there handling the "Saving a spot issue". Anything posted on the Bay side?

 

[Singleton]

Guess that's how there handling the "Saving a spot issue". Anything posted on the Bay side?

Saw nothing on the bay side (in front of the 3 story time share building)
From the water park to the Turtle it has signs posted say 1 hour limit.

 

[bilz]

That means all the freebies who don't get off there boats and spend a little coin, will park over there. $20 is steep , but I've seen many park and remain in their boats with their own drinks. But still this will most likely hurt them.

 

[OutCole'd]

Wow, that's just rediculous. I won't be stopping there for lunch anymore.

 

[Racey]

Obviously they (the management) thought there was a problem with people parking there and not patronizing the establishment, It's their beach, they can dictate whatever policy they please, if people will pay so be it, if not the policy won't last long.... or maybe the policy will change to validate/reimburse parking with a receipt from the bar. I've seen plenty of people park there and like someone else said stay on their boat, drinking their own drinks in order to simply spectate on the action occurring at the bar.

I like Lake Mead much better anyway

 

[RVRKID]

Based on a conversation I had Friday night, if you want to park in the cove and you are a guest you have to pay a fee as well.

Docks are 1 hour limit and free. Everything in the cove is pay per use.

Desert Storm just got more expensive for those guys!! Not that most don't have the money I am sure it would piss some off though.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

So are we talking the cove on the side by the new pool or the other side by inflatable water part thing?

 

[Havasteve]

I don't understand this type of business? I would think that if a business made it very easy to access their establishment, had good but cheap food and drinks, and packed their place to the brim they would make a ton more money. I'm not a business major or an economist so what the "F" do I know.

This was the Plan for the channel.

Just think of how it would have been if the City and Marine Association got away with the "Rent a Ring" program in the channel. The channel would be exactly what the turtle cove is now. Purchase a spot on PayPal and fight to get your spot.

As far as decreasing access to business at Turtle Cove, look at the rent a ring sea wall closest to the businesses south of the bridge. The wall base is under water eliminating the beach and preventing boats from beaching.

 

[FREAK JUICE]

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So are we talking the cove on the side by the new pool or the other side by inflatable water part thing?

From what I gather, docks free 1hr. limit, entire cove $20.00 2hr. limit. :grumble: Cove by the bar & restraunt.

 

[Baja Big Dog]

Well at least they open themselves open for a few lawsuits for shit getting jacked from boats now.....

 

[454Rocket]

Lol... first they empty the Turtle by building a new bar at the pool 100ft away and then effectively kick out the boaters. Someone will be fired soon

 

[Wmc]

See Havasu sucks and Parker is closed

 

[shintoooo]

We ate lunch there on Saturday. Pulled right up to the cove and beached the boat. Didn't see any sign mentioning anything and no one asked us to pay. :headscratch:

 

[throttle]

I was at the turtle a few days ago and saw new signs. I never read them.

I parked my boat on the beach and my guests and I walked right up to the turtle to have early dinner and drinks.

I, just like several of you enjoy the location and visit there often! I WILL NOT be paying anyone to park my boat on a beach when I am coming to spend money on dinner/ drinks with the guests on my boat!

This raises concern and got my attention almost immediately as I have a couple of events coming up at the Nautical. Some of the guests from one of the events told me they were being charged for "reserved parking" in the cove. This, however was not in my contract, so any charges will be removed for these guests as these new changes were made after my contract with them was already done.

With a follow up call today, I asked the questions directly about the new signs and new charges for hotel guests and visitors of the the turtle.

Here is what I was told,
There are new signs posted. Parking for non-resort guests is $10, with a 2 hour limit. A voucher for $10 is given to the guest and can be used at the store, and the Turtle for food/drink...
Resort guests have the option to reserve a spot for a fee.

On a side bar note... there has been a new GM and lots of changes over the last 6 weeks at the Nautical Resort and the Turtle Bar.

Hope this helps set some at ease.

 

[Motor Boater]

Obviously they (the management) thought there was a problem with people parking there and not patronizing the establishment, It's their beach, they can dictate whatever policy they please, if people will pay so be it, if not the policy won't last long.... or maybe the policy will change to validate/reimburse parking with a receipt from the bar. I've seen plenty of people park there and like someone else said stay on their boat, drinking their own drinks in order to simply spectate on the action occurring at the bar.

I like Lake Mead much better anyway

This is the right idea, if you are spending money here parking is free. I get that, but paying to park so I can go into your establishment to spend money drinking and eating is ridiculous.

 

[plaster dave]

Here is what I was told,
There are new signs posted. Parking for non-resort guests is $10, with a 2 hour limit. A voucher for $10 is given to the guest and can be used at the store, and the Turtle for food/drink...
Resort guests have the option to reserve a spot for a fee.

On a side bar note... there has been a new GM and lots of changes over the last 6 weeks at the Nautical Resort and the Turtle Bar.

Hope this helps set some at ease.

This doesn't bother me at all.

 

[throttle]

The dialog I had today also included some of the reasons for the fee.

Top reason is that they have had to deal with several heated battles on the beaches with boat owners, ect...

And continued to add, that some people day camp (all day)on the beach and take away parking spaces from those of us that want to have lunch /dinner/drinks and spend money at the store.

I dont really agree with the charges, however it seems that they are treating like a club cover charge... keep the riff raff out (sorry raff, no pun intended).

 

[OutCole'd]

This doesn't bother me at all.

Me either, I'm fine with this. My lunches are back on...

 

[shueman]

...some people day camp (all day)on the beach and take away parking spaces from those of us that want to have lunch /dinner/drinks and spend money at the store.

I dont really agree with the charges, however it seems that they are treating like a club cover charge...

Sounds fine here...paying guests first...:thumbsup

 

[milkmoney]

so if i read cam's post right, then the boaters that are assholes have created this charge, i have not been to havasu this year at all and i wont be going there to park my boat for a fee....:thumbsdown

here you go joker, now u can have a spot that you pay for and no one can reserve it with their ez-up...

 

[framer1]

The dialog I had today also included some of the reasons for the fee.

Top reason is that they have had to deal with several heated battles on the beaches with boat owners, ect...

And continued to add, that some people day camp (all day)on the beach and take away parking spaces from those of us that want to have lunch /dinner/drinks and spend money at the store.

I dont really agree with the charges, however it seems that they are treating like a club cover charge... keep the riff raff out (sorry raff, no pun intended).

x2...it's worth it to me. It's about the same price as a foo foo drink, i'll just make the wife drink beer

 

[79 HUSTLER]

Here is what I was told,
There are new signs posted. Parking for non-resort guests is $10, with a 2 hour limit. A voucher for $10 is given to the guest and can be used at the store, and the Turtle for food/drink...
Resort guests have the option to reserve a spot for a fee.

On a side bar note... there has been a new GM and lots of changes over the last 6 weeks at the Nautical Resort and the Turtle Bar.

Hope this helps set some at ease.

This would be fine, but the signs stated $20 and as we pulled up the security guard was there with his clipboard and stated "twenty dollars". We did state we were going to go have lunch and he did not state anything about a voucher or anything else. Just $20 for two hours.

 

[throttle]

This would be fine, but the signs stated $20 and as we pulled up the security guard was there with his clipboard and stated "twenty dollars". We did state we were going to go have lunch and he did not state anything about a voucher or anything else. Just $20 for two hours.

i understand what you are sayin... Its crazy that they cant even get it right themselves...

a PB member posted 50 bucks, you post 20 bucks and then some guy like me calls for clarification and is told $10... maybe the 10 bucks is my cost...

the employee on the beach can ask whatever he wants in my opinion... cuz he aint getting nuthing till he has that voucher out to give me for whatever amount I am gonna give him... I go there to spend money, have a good time and brings a few peeps with me sometimes... they will not get me to pay twice for the same menu item.

 

[throttle]

its bad enuf that they had raised the drink prices! Not to mention a few changes in staff that I miss!

 

[Singleton]

its bad enuf that they had raised the drink prices! Not to mention a few changes in staff that I miss!

x2. Noticed that this weekend, prices up and the normal bar mates no longer around.

 

[DeltaSigBoater]

Obviously they (the management) thought there was a problem with people parking there and not patronizing the establishment, It's their beach, they can dictate whatever policy they please, if people will pay so be it, if not the policy won't last long.... or maybe the policy will change to validate/reimburse parking with a receipt from the bar. I've seen plenty of people park there and like someone else said stay on their boat, drinking their own drinks in order to simply spectate on the action occurring at the bar.

I like Lake Mead much better anyway

x2 :champagne:

 

[PaPaG]

so if i read cam's post right, then the boaters that are assholes have created this charge, i have not been to havasu this year at all and i wont be going there to park my boat for a fee....:thumbsdown

here you go joker, now u can have a spot that you pay for and no one can reserve it with their ez-up...

 

[BajaMike]

Lol... first they empty the Turtle by building a new bar at the pool 100ft away and then effectively kick out the boaters. Someone will be fired soon

Nobody will be fired....that place is in "the time share business". Everything else they don't give a shit about. They are not a good hotel operator (worst customer service at any resort hotel in the world) and crappy food and beverage operator.

The owners don't care....I hate to give them money (but I've given them a lot).

 

[79 HUSTLER]

i understand what you are sayin... Its crazy that they cant even get it right themselves...

a PB member posted 50 bucks, you post 20 bucks and then some guy like me calls for clarification and is told $10... maybe the 10 bucks is my cost...

the employee on the beach can ask whatever he wants in my opinion... cuz he aint getting nuthing till he has that voucher out to give me for whatever amount I am gonna give him... I go there to spend money, have a good time and brings a few peeps with me sometimes... they will not get me to pay twice for the same menu item.

Very true, they certainly must not of liked the guy for $50 bucks, liked me a little better so it was $20 bucks, thought you were an OK guy so you were only $10 bucks, and the ones that saw no sign and paid no fee must be getting the VIP treatment. :beer

 

[jholley]

I just called myself to check on this since I had reservations next month and I spoke directly to the GM and was told that if I wanted to beach my boat in front of the room, it would be an additional $50.00 per night on top of the room rate charge. I can't believe this could possibly be good business for them, since I'm sure one of the main reasons people stay there is due to the easy access those rooms provide with the beach parking.

 

[Singleton]

I just called myself to check on this since I had reservations next month and I spoke directly to the GM and was told that if I wanted to beach my boat in front of the room, it would be an additional $50.00 per night on top of the room rate charge. I can't believe this could possibly be good business for them, since I'm sure one of the main reasons people stay there is due to the easy access those rooms provide with the beach parking.

For $50, I would spend the 15 minutes to put the boat on the trailer each night.

 

[FREAK JUICE]

I just called myself to check on this since I had reservations next month and I spoke directly to the GM and was told that if I wanted to beach my boat in front of the room, it would be an additional $50.00 per night on top of the room rate charge. I can't believe this could possibly be good business for them, since I'm sure one of the main reasons people stay there is due to the easy access those rooms provide with the beach parking.

:thumbsdown That's toatally fuked up. We have been going to the turtle since it opened. Was a great place :grumble: Wish the pirate was alittle closer, I know it's only a 20 min ride from windsor. But it gets alittle crazy going up there on the weekends. :swear

 

[plaster dave]

I just called myself to check on this since I had reservations next month and I spoke directly to the GM and was told that if I wanted to beach my boat in front of the room, it would be an additional $50.00 per night on top of the room rate charge. I can't believe this could possibly be good business for them, since I'm sure one of the main reasons people stay there is due to the easy access those rooms provide with the beach parking.

I wounder if they are gonna take responsibility for stolen items from boats and damage to boats now that they are charging?

 

[Tank]

Sounds like a complete cluster f*ck!

I can totally understand the reasoning - and actual need - to charge for beaching (with the voucher). That is actually a smart business plan that keeps those that are just using the cove (private property) for free (remember the hotel is there to make money, if someone is parked there and not patronizing the establishment, they're losing money on a big weekend). I've also seen first hand the heated arguments people get into over saved beach spots. So this voucher plan is a very good one. But the three different quotes is lame. And 50 bucks to beach your boat if you're staying there!? Completely asinine! I assume they got that price que from The London Bridge that charges 50 a night for a dock. But a dock is MUCH different than beaching. Seems like if you're staying at the hotel, you should get a colored band to beach your boat there for the time you're there for free. Or at the max a 20 bucks a day charge.

 

[EpicOne]

Short sided business decisions are always the worst ones. :skull

 

[454Rocket]

For $50, I would spend the 15 minutes to put the boat on the trailer each night.

Can I plug my rental house for $100/night... because the only reason to stay there is now negated! :champagne:

 

[BajaMike]

Short sided business decisions are always the worst ones. :skull

It's very short sighted, but as I said, they are a time share company. They don't give a damn about the Turtle or the hotel.

They put the $50K in the bank with every time share sale, and they don't even give a damn about the time share owners (they won't buy it back, they don't worry about cove parking or the launch ramp once you are an owner, you are stuck...try to sell them back the time share).

Tell me if you can find another $250 a nite resort in the world that treats customers as badly as they do.

:blah::blah::blah:

 

[Performance Boat Candy]

I understand that spots are limited and they want to reserve them for paying customers, but $20 seems excessive and could result in an overall loss of business. Do they give your dough back if you hit the bar or restaurant?

Pirate Cove has the right idea with their expanded docks to increase business...that place is busy every time I go.