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It's how they operate.
They construct scenarios or just foreshadow a scenario then interject their questions in a way that can only be answered within that construct...then think they have won a "debate".

530 is the master at it...Shameus not so much.

Good ole beat down hear in the making by 530, T&y and TG just keep digging the hole deeper. T&y is showing weakness by getting mad. TG just doing his usual parrot posting of himself. [emoji23]

Mad.. Where and how?

Still don't see it. You think me calling the oracle a fucking joke is me being mad?

Yes, you even see it.

See what I mean?
Shameus has now concluded that he has made you mad.
Any attempt to convince him otherwise will only result in him crowing louder and louder about his imagined victory.
That puzzle factory in his head is unlike any other.

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I can only think of one thing that's more fun than fucking with Trumpkins. [emoji476][emoji469]
Anyway I'm out for the night, TG can stay up all night and pre-post for tomorrow. [emoji23][emoji109]
 

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I can only think of one thing that's more fun than fucking with Trumpkins. [emoji476][emoji469]
Anyway I'm out for the night, TG can stay up all night and pre-post for tomorrow. [emoji23][emoji109]

Don't forget to silence your tweet alert!
 

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The NFL is screwed. Lawsuits are stacked up behind the scenes that you have no idea about. And, You're dodging around the details....as in Rule Books written by a Private Entity. Goodell iis F'd.....understand? Btw, You have House rules at your Home....right?
Its a mess that started before Trump was elected.

All valid observations.

Litigation is just a part of life in America. As a former public company CEO and Chairman I suspect I was named in no less than 100 lawsuits. Heck, I have no less than a dozen going at any time in my current business life. God only knows how many Goodell, the NFL and its' teams are involved in any during week. I have to believe hundreds.

The NFL will continue on. Business will continue on. Rules are written for most of the time, but these are not normal times.

But at the end of the day, we will all go back to work tomorrow. We will all focus on our lives and making a living for ourselves, which is the essence of capitalism and the essence of what the founding fathers had in mind.

And although we can all enjoy a little cajoling on the internet, none of our views will change what happens in the world. They will do what they do.

And with uncertainty comes great opportunity. And if nothing else, Trump provides great uncertainty.
 

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All valid observations.

Litigation is just a part of life in America. As a former public company CEO and Chairman I suspect I was named in no less than 100 lawsuits. Heck, I have no less than a dozen going at any time in my current business life. God only knows how many Goodell, the NFL and its' teams are involved in any during week. I have to believe hundreds.

The NFL will continue on. Business will continue on. Rules are written for most of the time, but these are not normal times.

But at the end of the day, we will all go back to work tomorrow. We will all focus on our lives and making a living for ourselves, which is the essence of capitalism and the essence of what the founding fathers had in mind.

And although we can all enjoy a little cajoling on the internet, none of our views will change what happens in the world. They will do what they do.

And with uncertainty comes great opportunity. And if nothing else, Trump provides great uncertainty.

"Rules are written for most of the time"??

That doesn't sound logically consistent...

I guess even the oracle steps off the milk crate now and then?
 

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"Rules are written for most of the time"??

That doesn't sound logically consistent...

I guess even the oracle steps off the milk crate now and then?

The Oracle has to refer to the Meth Head's point on drugs. Some drug laws are good, some drug laws are bad.............
 

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No shit sherlock. You asked what everyone protesting today would do. Bobby said he would watch the superbowl which is fine, he can do whatever he wants. Then you said in trump we trust. I said trump has nothing to do with it. Not hard to follow along if you are not a libtard.

I'll say it again real slow for yah. Those that are boycotting today, would still probably be boycotting, regardless of what Trump says or does. How is that so hard for you to understand?

Kind of like talking to a cinder block isn't it??? Wait a minute, sorry cinder block, I didn't mean to lower you down to his level.
 
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The Oracle has to refer to the Meth Head's point on drugs. Some drug laws are good, some drug laws are bad.............

Who is a "meth head"?

And yes, some drug laws are good and some are bad...welcome to reality!
 

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So, these ignoramuses kneel for the US anthem but standing for 'God Save the Queen':thumbsup:D Obviously they skipped history classes,lol. The kneeling protest started because a player claimed the United States flag was oppressive:rolleyes. These players are continuing this protest under the same reasoning, yet they stand for a country's anthem and flag that started oppression over your fledgling nation hundreds of years before.......Do you see the ignorance and irony???:skull:skull:skull
America is becoming the laughing stock in the eyes of the world. Carry on imbeciles:drink
 

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So, these ignoramuses kneel for the US anthem but standing for 'God Save the Queen':thumbsup:D Obviously they skipped history classes,lol. The kneeling protest started because a player claimed the United States flag was oppressive:rolleyes. These players are continuing this protest under the same reasoning, yet they stand for a country's anthem and flag that started oppression over your fledgling nation hundreds of years before.......Do you see the ignorance and irony???:skull:skull:skull
America is becoming the laughing stock in the eyes of the world. Carry on imbeciles:drink

Nonsense, these are intelligent professionals with college degrees! what do you know:eek
 

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Funny how many of us did not care for Obama and his actions.....but we did not lower ourselves to disrespect the entire country, especially those who sacrificed their lives fighting for us..... I thought we as a nation were better than that......apparently not :thumbsdown

Amen, brother... At no point was hating on Obama more important than our country and than men and women who fought for it.
 

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Yea, I was out goofing off this morning and you always see a lot of Jerseys being worn by fans on Sunday but today seemed like way more wearing them in protest of Trump.

Did you ask them?

Fuck no, he dreams this shit up in his puzzle factory.

"Saw a guy buy a blue Slurpey in protest of Trump"

"Saw a guy throw a football with his friends...obviously in Protest of Trump"

"Saw a guy make a turn without signaling, take that Trump!"

Fucker is spun.
 

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Fuck no, he dreams this shit up in his puzzle factory.

"Saw a guy buy a blue Slurpey in protest of Trump"

"Saw a guy throw a football with his friends...obviously in Protest of Trump"

"Saw a guy make a turn without signaling, take that Trump!"

Fucker is spun.

But he said "seemed". Lol. It's mind boggling to the point I know better than to respond, but just have to know what's going to leak out of that pie hole next.
 

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But he said "seemed". Lol. It's mind boggling to the point I know better than to respond, but just have to know what's going to leak out of that pie hole next.

What's mind boggling to me is you are going to alter your life by boycotting a long list of NFL sponsors apparently because Trump advised you to boycott the NFL. You should spit the hook out and get a grip man. [emoji57]
 

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The bottom line, if everyone would ignore the protesters, President and media included, they would go away. Trump just put them on center stage and gave them a voice.

He added a bunch of fuel to their fire.
 

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NFL on FOX analyst Howie Long took time to remind viewers that these players who decide to protest aren?t disrespecting the country, but instead fighting against racial inequality.

"Standing for the anthem is something I would not choose to do, but I fully support the right to do it. That being said, what?s being lost in the criticism of the form of the protest is the message of inequality. Put it in perspective: As a white father having raised three boys, there were a million things to worry about on a daily basis. But it?s impossible for me to understand the challenges that an African-American father faces at every turn while raising his children. But in a league that is comprised of 70% African-American players, if you?re a white player in an NFL locker room, that puts you in a position to try to better understand those struggles, and, subsequently as we have seen, show your support for your teammates in your own way. Understanding starts with a dialogue, and the most important part of dialogue is to listen."

Instead of ripping players for how they?re making their voices heard, take the time to actually listen to what they?re saying.
 

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Anyone watching the Raiders and Redskins?

Apparently not many.

In metered market numbers, the primetime match-up between the 27-10 winning Washington Redskins and the Oakland Raiders snared an 11.6/20.

The worst SNF has performed this season so far, that's an 8% dip from the early numbers of last week's Atlanta Falcon's 34-23 win over the Green Bay Packers. Gaining cheers and boos from fans at FedEx Field in Maryland last night, the third week of SNF for the 2017-2018 season declined 10% from early numbers of the comparable game of last year on September 25, 2016.


It's pretty simple what this is about....................stand or not to stand.

You want this fight, we'll be happy to oblige!!!!!!! :thumbsup
 

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NFL on FOX analyst Howie Long took time to remind viewers that these players who decide to protest aren?t disrespecting the country, but instead fighting against racial inequality.

"Standing for the anthem is something I would not choose to do, but I fully support the right to do it. That being said, what?s being lost in the criticism of the form of the protest is the message of inequality. Put it in perspective: As a white father having raised three boys, there were a million things to worry about on a daily basis. But it?s impossible for me to understand the challenges that an African-American father faces at every turn while raising his children. But in a league that is comprised of 70% African-American players, if you?re a white player in an NFL locker room, that puts you in a position to try to better understand those struggles, and, subsequently as we have seen, show your support for your teammates in your own way. Understanding starts with a dialogue, and the most important part of dialogue is to listen."

Instead of ripping players for how they?re making their voices heard, take the time to actually listen to what they?re saying.

You ever consider that one of the reasons Trump won the presidency was the last eight years of race baiting? Race relations were better before your boy stepped into the WH and when you, him and the rest of your race baiting masters push BULLSHIT narratives such as "Hands Up, Don't Shoot", Americans tend to tune your sorry asses out!

Stop lying and you might see the progress you so desire. :thumbsup
 

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I'm going to boycott Firestone Tire stores because when I was at taco bell last week they screwed up my order and gave me two tacos when I asked for a cheesey nacho's. If you can understand how stupid of a boycott that would be, then you can understand why anybody would see removing statues representing the founding of this nation has anything to do with Kapderdick, or any of the other ignorant fucks protesting of the National Anthem becasue they think the big bad po leece kill black people for no reason.

I am not holding my breath that you will get it.
U would die , and who would collect the quarters [emoji202]
 
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The bottom line, if everyone would ignore the protesters, President and media included, they would go away. Trump just put them on center stage and gave them a voice.

He added a bunch of fuel to their fire.

NFL should of handled this from the start and did nothing ...... I think its going to hurt em. Fuck the NFL:thumbsdown
 

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The bottom line, if everyone would ignore the protesters, President and media included, they would go away. Trump just put them on center stage and gave them a voice.

He added a bunch of fuel to their fire.

But it wasn't "going away" and others started doing the same.

IMHO, the President should have said something to the NFL, privately, and ask them to consider what message it was sending.
 

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NFL on FOX analyst Howie Long took time to remind viewers that these players who decide to protest aren?t disrespecting the country, but instead fighting against racial inequality........

and.....Howie Long's son Chris refused to visit the WH after wining the Super Bowl...... Howie is not biased in the very least now is he? :rolleyes

If I slap you in the face, I am not disrespecting you....I am only exercising my hand to stimulate blood flow! :eek
 

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I admire your attempt at rationally with Shameus, mixed with a perfect blend of mockery.
As you are well aware, however, there is no room for rational debate with the parrot.

He is locked in, blinders on, laser focus on one thing...sniffing Trumps ass for ANY scent of shit.
His twitter app is on turbo and spooled up tight.

He throws out the stupidest scenarios and quickly judges others even though no one responds.
He just makes up his own answers as others watch in painful fascination at his dulerium.

You want in on the pool for when "Shamexit 2.0...the final meltdown" happens?
I am already in. Money has been sent [emoji106] [emoji202]
 

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God Lord. I go to bed, cows get up early lol.

Meltdown is all I can think. And a pocket full of money. [emoji202]
 

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You ever consider that one of the reasons Trump won the presidency was the last eight years of race baiting? Race relations were better before your boy stepped into the WH and when you, him and the rest of your race baiting masters push BULLSHIT narratives such as "Hands Up, Don't Shoot", Americans tend to tune your sorry asses out!

Stop lying and you might see the progress you so desire. :thumbsup

"Boy"?




You RACIST!!!!!!!!!
 

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"Boy"?




You RACIST!!!!!!!!!

I'm waiting for it, then I'll slam him for race baiting...................again!!!!!! :D


Hands up, don't shoot.......:party:
 

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NFL on FOX analyst Howie Long took time to remind viewers that these players who decide to protest aren?t disrespecting the country, but instead fighting against racial inequality.

"Standing for the anthem is something I would not choose to do, but I fully support the right to do it. That being said, what?s being lost in the criticism of the form of the protest is the message of inequality. Put it in perspective: As a white father having raised three boys, there were a million things to worry about on a daily basis. But it?s impossible for me to understand the challenges that an African-American father faces at every turn while raising his children. But in a league that is comprised of 70% African-American players, if you?re a white player in an NFL locker room, that puts you in a position to try to better understand those struggles, and, subsequently as we have seen, show your support for your teammates in your own way. Understanding starts with a dialogue, and the most important part of dialogue is to listen."

Instead of ripping players for how they?re making their voices heard, take the time to actually listen to what they?re saying.

I to support their right to protest. But I do not believe they have chosen the correct symbol to address that protest. As I mentioned in the Pitt thread, what would Pat Tillman do?

Tillman made a stand and left the game and it's money behind to defend that flag with his life. He chose to take action in what he believed was the greatest nation in history. All I'm seeing on the sidelines today, is a bunch of spoiled jocks making a gesture. If they were serious about the issue of inequality, they'd quit the game and take their money to the troubled communities and work daily to save the youth from gangs and criminal endeavor. They'd ditch the outrageous high dollar clothes and bling and teach the kids who look up to them, what is of real value in life. How not everyone is blessed with athletic ability to "free" themselves. Teach them how to gain the means to building productive lives without fear of stepping out the door of their homes each day........That's what Pat Tillman would do. Walk the walk, not gesture with small talk.
 

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You....Raaacist!!!

How dare you suggest they "do" something.


I to support their right to protest. But I do not believe they have chosen the correct symbol to address that protest. As I mentioned in the Pitt thread, what would Pat Tillman do?

Tillman made a stand and left the game and it's money behind to defend that flag with his life. He chose to take action in what he believed was the greatest nation in history. All I'm seeing on the sidelines today, is a bunch of spoiled jocks making a gesture. If they were serious about the issue of inequality, they'd quit the game and take their money to the troubled communities and work daily to save the youth from gangs and criminal endeavor. They'd ditch the outrageous high dollar clothes and bling and teach the kids who look up to them, what is of real value in life. How not everyone is blessed with athletic ability to "free" themselves. Teach them how to gain the means to building productive lives without fear of stepping out the door of their homes each day........That's what Pat Tillman would do. Walk the walk, not gesture with small talk.
 

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I to support their right to protest. But I do not believe they have chosen the correct symbol to address that protest. As I mentioned in the Pitt thread, what would Pat Tillman do?

Tillman made a stand and left the game and it's money behind to defend that flag with his life. He chose to take action in what he believed was the greatest nation in history. All I'm seeing on the sidelines today, is a bunch of spoiled jocks making a gesture. If they were serious about the issue of inequality, they'd quit the game and take their money to the troubled communities and work daily to save the youth from gangs and criminal endeavor. They'd ditch the outrageous high dollar clothes and bling and teach the kids who look up to them, what is of real value in life. How not everyone is blessed with athletic ability to "free" themselves. Teach them how to gain the means to building productive lives without fear of stepping out the door of their homes each day........That's what Pat Tillman would do. Walk the walk, not gesture with small talk.

Do you know for a fact that they are not doing something productive with their wealth or are you making a generalization based on their actions, or worse their color?

What did you think of Terry Bradshaw's response?
 

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Do you know for a fact that they are not doing something productive with their wealth or are you making a generalization based on their actions, or worse their color?

What did you think of Terry Bradshaw's response?

Racist!

Alt Tard RACIST!!!!!!!!:p
 

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NFL on FOX analyst Howie Long took time to remind viewers that these players who decide to protest aren?t disrespecting the country, but instead fighting against racial inequality.

"Standing for the anthem is something I would not choose to do, but I fully support the right to do it. That being said, what?s being lost in the criticism of the form of the protest is the message of inequality. Put it in perspective: As a white father having raised three boys, there were a million things to worry about on a daily basis. But it?s impossible for me to understand the challenges that an African-American father faces at every turn while raising his children. But in a league that is comprised of 70% African-American players, if you?re a white player in an NFL locker room, that puts you in a position to try to better understand those struggles, and, subsequently as we have seen, show your support for your teammates in your own way. Understanding starts with a dialogue, and the most important part of dialogue is to listen."

Instead of ripping players for how they?re making their voices heard, take the time to actually listen to what they?re saying.


Excuses, and blaming everyone else is all I hear....

Maybe if the fathers stuck around they could teach their kids right from wrong.....

Maybe if there wasnt 20 some odd million illegals in the country there would be more jobs available....you know a hand up, not a hand out

Take your race baiting bullshit and shove it, give it a rest....we're over it
 

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I to support their right to protest. But I do not believe they have chosen the correct symbol to address that protest. As I mentioned in the Pitt thread, what would Pat Tillman do?

Tillman made a stand and left the game and it's money behind to defend that flag with his life. He chose to take action in what he believed was the greatest nation in history. All I'm seeing on the sidelines today, is a bunch of spoiled jocks making a gesture. If they were serious about the issue of inequality, they'd quit the game and take their money to the troubled communities and work daily to save the youth from gangs and criminal endeavor. They'd ditch the outrageous high dollar clothes and bling and teach the kids who look up to them, what is of real value in life. How not everyone is blessed with athletic ability to "free" themselves. Teach them how to gain the means to building productive lives without fear of stepping out the door of their homes each day........That's what Pat Tillman would do. Walk the walk, not gesture with small talk.


OT.....OT..... Wake up OT, time to come back to reality....:rolleyes
 

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Do you know for a fact that they are not doing something productive with their wealth or are you making a generalization based on their actions, or worse their color?

What did you think of Terry Bradshaw's response?

Fuck you on your insinuation. And I could give a flyin' fuck about anything Bradshaw says, as if he's just another opinion concerned more about a paycheck than an answer to the claimed issues.

I've seen a lot of good pro players have done to help the Houston community during the hurricane.

And no i have not seen pro athletes enter the problem areas that are the root cause of inequality to stay and daily work with the issues.
 

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You're underestimating fans of the NFL, NBA and the NCAA. [emoji6]

Pittsburgh Steelers offensive lineman Alejandro Villanueva became the best-selling player in the NFL by midday Monday. ;)

AND props to the brothers in the back round with their hands over their hearts. :thumbsup
 

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Pittsburgh Steelers offensive lineman Alejandro Villanueva became the best-selling player in the NFL by midday Monday. ;)

AND props to the brothers in the back round with their hands over their hearts. :thumbsup

Regor, it appears he was already An. American. Badass.
 

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Regor, it appears he was already An. American. Badass.

Maybe a requirement to play in the NFL should be a West Point graduate who served three tours in Afghanistan. :thumbsup


Pretzel in 3, 2 ,1 ...............
 

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Fuck you on your insinuation. And I could give a flyin' fuck about anything Bradshaw says, as if he's just another opinion concerned more about a paycheck than an answer to the claimed issues.

I've seen a lot of good pro players have done to help the Houston community during the hurricane.

And no i have not seen pro athletes enter the problem areas that are the root cause of inequality to stay and daily work with the issues.
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My point is that neither you, nor anyone else on here, knows what any professional athlete does in their off time. As for Mr. Bradshaw's opinion, yes it is just that, but what was your take on it? Now that the President has made this his issue, it appears that some of his most high level supporters are denouncing his words and actions, Kraft and Brady to name a couple.
 

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My point is that neither you, nor anyone else on here, knows what any professional athlete does in their off time. As for Mr. Bradshaw's opinion, yes it is just that, but what was your take on it? Now that the President has made this his issue, it appears that some of his most high level supporters are denouncing his words and actions, Kraft and Brady to name a couple.

What I think about Bradshaw is that he's correct, they have a right to protest.

What I think about Trump is that he's also correct, F them!


To stand or not to stand............................bring it you coastal losing race baiting whores!!!! :drink
 

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What I think about Bradshaw is that he's correct, they have a right to protest.

What I think about Trump is that he's also correct, F them!


To stand or not to stand............................bring it you coastal losing race baiting whores!!!! :drink

We won the coasts, it's the flyovers we lost. By flyovers I mean anything east of Gypsum Canyon.;)
 

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We won the coasts, it's the flyovers we lost. By flyovers I mean anything east of Gypsum Canyon.;)

You know damn well that wasn't what I was referring too. I just wanted to throw "losing" in there as a reminder. :D
 

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My point is that neither you, nor anyone else on here, knows what any professional athlete does in their off time. As for Mr. Bradshaw's opinion, yes it is just that, but what was your take on it? Now that the President has made this his issue, it appears that some of his most high level supporters are denouncing his words and actions, Kraft and Brady to name a couple.

No your point was that I viewed the protestors with a racial slant. Since the high majority are black and their beef is with LE not treating them equally, my reply pointed out how they need to get to work in the communities the majority left behind and their escape was made possible because of physical gifts they were born with.....

I do know what a great deal of local pros do in their off time and it's mix of mostly good citizens vs those who are not so much.

As far as Bradshaw, I didn't hear what he said, nor do I care what he said. Same goes for Trump and his tweeting. Both have rights to speak their mind like we all have the right. Kraft and Brady fall into the same category. Who cares. But when a number of athletes choose to kneel during the NA, they are disrespecting national flag protocol to get a reaction. Why not step up and "openly" clean up those communities they were fortunate to be able to escape. Do some actual good rather than basically just bitch in the form of protest.

That flag stands for freedom and the rights given us in the US Constitution. The flag represents brave individuals who fought for this nation's freedoms under that flag. The Flag stands tall and pure and is unblemished as a symbol. Disrespecting the symbol that is the exact opposite of their issues shows the exact opposite of what they want to make as their point.

Even with all this attention, the actual issue is clouded by the action. Kapernick who started this whole deal, did what he did, in my opinion anyway, because his gf encouraged him to. A gf who from what I've read is a radical, racial, activist trying to stir up shit. Well she damned well has done that.....
 

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What's mind boggling to me is you are going to alter your life by boycotting a long list of NFL sponsors apparently because Trump advised you to boycott the NFL. You should spit the hook out and get a grip man. [emoji57]
Damn Stainmaker, your Rapala was strong this weekend! You sunk that shit so deep you even hooked Lounge Lizards off the bottom! I hope your rolling Braided lines cuz you grabbed 30 pages of Mackerel with this hit!:champagne:
GPAU!:drink
 
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