Trump parade this weekend

[PlanB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1825131124126822698

Empty mag wells on those rifles. I guess they don't trust the NG with live ammo.

 

[PlanB]

They've been trying to put him in jail for 8 years! Fuck 'um. There's no reason to be nice to communists.

 

[regor]

Harris Polls "Much Less Rosy" Than Reported, SuperPAC Admits​

"We have it tight as a tick, and pretty much across the board..."

TUE AUG 20, AT 6:40 AM


The founder of the main outside spending group backing Kamala Harris for president says their own internal opinion polling is "much less rosy" than public polls - and has warned Democrats that they face much closer races in key states.


The sugar high is winding down..............

 

[Badchoices03]

What a gaggle of fucking whiners.
Trump received the most legitimate votes for POTUS in history. This, despite all the absolute bullshit the entire LEFTIST machine threw at him.
You idiots that think we're heading towards third world dictator status are just as blind as the libturd sheep, we're already there. All the bullshit he was dragged through culminating in his attempted assassination right in front of your blind eyes and their continued attempt to jail him while he has never faltered and will never give up.
Your responses? "He says things that I don't like sometimes." There is no one else, you fucking imbeciles have already lost.

I am voting for Trump, my whole family is voting for Trump (except maybe my mom, but I am working on her), mostly everyone that is saying anything that you classify as "whining" are still voting for Trump....I still wish he would just STFU and stick to policies....he doesn't need OUR support, he already has it...what he needs is the support of the guy in the middle....I use my mom for example, she doesnt like him as a person, she was almost completely right when Biden was in the running but now that kamala is up to bat, she is leaning back that way, there are sooooo many people out there just like her, that are riding on the fence....and if he would stop with the fkn ego and stick to talking about what hes going to do to fix the problems, I feel like he can swing a lot more people his way...again, my mom is on a fixed income, struggles to get by, if he would just talk about what hes going to do to help that, instead of just blaming the current administration, maybe it might sway her....but no, he rather talk about how he is better looking then kamala...lol

 

[regor]

I am voting for Trump, my whole family is voting for Trump (except maybe my mom, but I am working on her), mostly everyone that is saying anything that you classify as "whining" are still voting for Trump....I still wish he would just STFU and stick to policies....he doesn't need OUR support, he already has it...what he needs is the support of the guy in the middle....I use my mom for example, she doesnt like him as a person, she was almost completely right when Biden was in the running but now that kamala is up to bat, she is leaning back that way, there are sooooo many people out there just like her, that are riding on the fence....and if he would stop with the fkn ego and stick to talking about what hes going to do to fix the problems, I feel like he can swing a lot more people his way...again, my mom is on a fixed income, struggles to get by, if he would just talk about what hes going to do to help that, instead of just blaming the current administration, maybe it might sway her....but no, he rather talk about how he is better looking then kamala...lol

Was your mom struggling to get by when Trump was in?

BTW, my MIL is the same way as her, talking Kamala nonsense now.

 

[Badchoices03]

Was your mom struggling to get by when Trump was in?

BTW, my MIL is the same way as her, talking Kamala nonsense now.

No she wasnt, but she bought into the china virus causing all this and that we just havent been able to get back to normal....thats where I keep insisting that Trump is missing the boat, talk about what exactly hes going to do to fix this...kamala goes on record to say, on day one shes going to act to stop price gouging....and people like my mom are like SEE thats what we need!!

 

[regor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1825987400822063191

There's no way I'm letting that shit go!!!

 

[regor]

No she wasnt, but she bought into the china virus causing all this and that we just havent been able to get back to normal....thats where I keep insisting that Trump is missing the boat, talk about what exactly hes going to do to fix this...kamala goes on record to say, on day one shes going to act to stop price gouging....and people like my mom are like SEE thats what we need!!

Sit your mom down and do this.


You: Mom, were you struggling under Trump?

Mom: No son, I wasn't.

You: Then why do you need Trump to explain it to you, he already did it?

Mom: Because I'm scared and the black mirror says he's going to ruin Democracy!!!!!

You: Mom, we live in a Constitutional Republic, he can't ruin Democracy

Mom: HE'S GOING TO RUIN DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!

You: I'm going to throw the TV out now, it's bad for you and the brainwashing is in full effect.

Mom: No yore not!!!!!

You: I am mom.

Mom: NO YORE NOT!!!!!!

You: It's time mom, I'll be taking things over from here, but remember, I love you and am only doing what's best. Yore clearly not thinking at this point because if you weren't struggling under Trump, you should be on your knees begging for him to come back, not demanding he gives you answers. It's as clear as day and if you can't see it, it's time.

 

[Gelcoater]

Was your mom struggling to get by when Trump was in?

BTW, my MIL is the same way as her, talking Kamala nonsense now.

You and all you guys need to ask your moms, MIL, aunts etc why Kamala hasn’t done any of this stuff the last 1,000+ days she’s been the second most powerful person in the world.

 

[regor]

You and all you guys need to ask your moms, MIL, aunts etc why Kamala hasn’t done any of this stuff the last 1,000+ days she’s been the second most powerful person in the world.

I like telling her you get what you deserve, she's my MIL!!!!

 

[500bbc]

I am voting for Trump, my whole family is voting for Trump (except maybe my mom, but I am working on her), mostly everyone that is saying anything that you classify as "whining" are still voting for Trump....I still wish he would just STFU and stick to policies....he doesn't need OUR support, he already has it...what he needs is the support of the guy in the middle....I use my mom for example, she doesnt like him as a person, she was almost completely right when Biden was in the running but now that kamala is up to bat, she is leaning back that way, there are sooooo many people out there just like her, that are riding on the fence....and if he would stop with the fkn ego and stick to talking about what hes going to do to fix the problems, I feel like he can swing a lot more people his way...again, my mom is on a fixed income, struggles to get by, if he would just talk about what hes going to do to help that, instead of just blaming the current administration, maybe it might sway her....but no, he rather talk about how he is better looking then kamala...lol

Does Trump gain more votes or lose more possible votes by his personality?
I say he gained more, winning the first and second time he ran. He was cheated the second time even having garnered the most votes for POTU in our country's history.

 

[500bbc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1825987400822063191

There's no way I'm letting that shit go!!!

WTF!!!! Why didn't he just discuss policy instead of being such an abject smartass!!!!

 

[Badchoices03]

WTF!!!! Why didn't he just discuss policy instead of being such an abject smartass!!!!

Again, I love that shit, you love that shit, we all love that shit.....but WE don't matter, he has us already, albeit some can be mere sheep and Trump can do no wrong....but he need to focus on the MIDDLE....its really not that hard to understand...or is it?

 

[regor]

Again, I love that shit, you love that shit, we all love that shit.....but WE don't matter, he has us already, albeit some can be mere sheep and Trump can do no wrong....but he need to focus on the MIDDLE....its really not that hard to understand...or is it?

Believe me, we all get what you're saying, but with what this nation has put our boy through, we have ZERO fucks left for the sheep that need their hands held. They had 4 years of our boy and 4 years of the Uni-Party, along with decades before Donnie came along. If they STILL need us to be nice about it, they can piss off, we're done playing nice.

The other thing you need to consider is we want a full reset and there are only two ways for this to occur.

1) Trump wins, we hold the crooks accountable and Lady Justice is restored rightfully as the pillar of this nation.

2) The Uni-Party wins, continues to raid the Treasury, we fall into an economic collapse, the imbeciles FINALLY wake up to the fact that our government doesn't a rat's ass about them and we get the party started with with only thing those scumbags respect...................the bullet.


It's a win win in my book. They can have it the easy way or the hard way.

 

[500bbc]

Again, I love that shit, you love that shit, we all love that shit.....but WE don't matter, he has us already, albeit some can be mere sheep and Trump can do no wrong....but he need to focus on the MIDDLE....its really not that hard to understand...or is it?

There is no longer a middle... Maybe just people looking to justify voting for communists.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Sit your mom down and do this.


You: Mom, were you struggling under Trump?

Mom: No son, I wasn't.

You: Then why do you need Trump to explain it to you, he already did it?

Mom: Because I'm scared and the black mirror says he's going to ruin Democracy!!!!!

You: Mom, we live in a Constitutional Republic, he can't ruin Democracy

Mom: HE'S GOING TO RUIN DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!

You: I'm going to throw the TV out now, it's bad for you and the brainwashing is in full effect.

Mom: No yore not!!!!!

You: I am mom.

Mom: NO YORE NOT!!!!!!

You: It's time mom, I'll be taking things over from here, but remember, I love you and am only doing what's best. Yore clearly not thinking at this point because if you weren't struggling under Trump, you should be on your knees begging for him to come back, not demanding he gives you answers. It's as clear as day and if you can't see it, it's time.

Regor, I like you. I like what you post and your opinions, but your approach of "fuck 'em all!" and Scorched Earth are NOT going to win this. That is all fine and good in here and with other very decided right wing voters. But that WILL lose the election at this point.

Trump NEEDS to stop with the personal school yard bullshit. Stand above the crap, and stick to his policies and her failed policies. Lean on the fact that the nation in general REALLY distrusts Californians (its a lost body of electorate anyway for him, California that is). Point to the fact that court's have upheld his policies after numerous challenges. Point to the Dem's failures. One can have a big ego and not take shit but still not sling crap back in the amount and veracity he does.

I agree, he certainly has earned the right to do it, but do it AFTER the work is done. He needs the middle and un-convinced to sway his way in order to get that work done. Its really that simple.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

There is no longer a middle... Maybe just people looking to justify voting for communists.

Call 'em what you want, but the people that are undecided are what are needed to win and right the ship. Without them......... not good for anybody that isn't a globalist homo.

 

[500bbc]

Again, I love that shit, you love that shit, we all love that shit.....but WE don't matter, he has us already, albeit some can be mere sheep and Trump can do no wrong....but he need to focus on the MIDDLE....its really not that hard to understand...or is it?

Honest question, did he win the last election and it was stolen or did a demented child molester that couldn't draw 20 people to a "rallly" get 81 million votes?

 

[500bbc]

Call 'em what you want, but the people that are undecided are what are needed to win and right the ship. Without them......... not good for anybody that isn't a globalist homo.

Same question to you, did a demented pedophile receive 81 million legitimate votes?

 

[Badchoices03]

Believe me, we all get what you're saying, but with what this nation has put our boy through, we have ZERO fucks left for the sheep that need their hands held. They had 4 years of our boy and 4 years of the Uni-Party, along with decades before Donnie came along. If they STILL need us to be nice about it, they can piss off, we're done playing nice.

The other thing you need to consider is we want a full reset and there are only two ways for this to occur.

1) Trump wins, we hold the crooks accountable and Lady Justice is restored rightfully as the pillar of this nation.

2) The Uni-Party wins, continues to raid the Treasury, we fall into an economic collapse, the imbeciles FINALLY wake up to the fact that our government doesn't a rat's ass about them and we get the party started with with only thing those scumbags respect...................the bullet.


It's a win win in my book. They can have it the easy way or the hard way.


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I agree on all parts 100%....and full circle, thats why I wish Trump would just STFU....LMAO....

 

[Badchoices03]

Same question to you, did a demented pedophile receive 81 million legitimate votes?

So if thats the case, why the fk are we even talking....if they cheated then, they are going to cheat again....the problem was, I think the vote was so close, that the cheat was easier to try and hide....if Trump would just stick to calling out their horrible policies rather then if kamala is black or asian...we might just win over a few of the undecided and make the cheat a bit harder this time....I agree 100% with you, fk them, but lets get the job done first...

By the way, I made a run of shirts and stickers for myself, just so everyone knew where I stand...

 

[Badchoices03]

Regor, I like you. I like what you post and your opinions, but your approach of "fuck 'em all!" and Scorched Earth are NOT going to win this. That is all fine and good in here and with other very decided right wing voters. But that WILL lose the election at this point.

Trump NEEDS to stop with the personal school yard bullshit. Stand above the crap, and stick to his policies and her failed policies. Lean on the fact that the nation in general REALLY distrusts Californians (its a lost body of electorate anyway for him, California that is). Point to the fact that court's have upheld his policies after numerous challenges. Point to the Dem's failures. One can have a big ego and not take shit but still not sling crap back in the amount and veracity he does.

I agree, he certainly has earned the right to do it, but do it AFTER the work is done. He needs the middle and un-convinced to sway his way in order to get that work done. Its really that simple.

Exactly!!

 

[PlanB]

I am voting for Trump, my whole family is voting for Trump (except maybe my mom, but I am working on her), mostly everyone that is saying anything that you classify as "whining" are still voting for Trump....I still wish he would just STFU and stick to policies....he doesn't need OUR support, he already has it...what he needs is the support of the guy in the middle....I use my mom for example, she doesnt like him as a person, she was almost completely right when Biden was in the running but now that kamala is up to bat, she is leaning back that way, there are sooooo many people out there just like her, that are riding on the fence....and if he would stop with the fkn ego and stick to talking about what hes going to do to fix the problems, I feel like he can swing a lot more people his way...again, my mom is on a fixed income, struggles to get by, if he would just talk about what hes going to do to help that, instead of just blaming the current administration, maybe it might sway her....but no, he rather talk about how he is better looking then kamala...lol

It's crazy to me that anyone could flip flop back and forth between Trump and any candidate with a D next to their name. This is not the Democrat party of 40 years ago. If you vote D today, you are voting for socialism at the very least.

 

[Badchoices03]

It's crazy to me that anyone could flip flop back and forth between Trump and any candidate with a D next to their name. This is not the Democrat party of 40 years ago. If you vote D today, you are voting for socialism at the very least.

My mom is definitely not flip flopping, although I hope she does....she has been a dem her whole life....she was finally starting to see a little light with biden and saying hes not fit to run the country...but as soon as he dropped out she was back with them.....

 

[regor]

Regor, I like you. I like what you post and your opinions, but your approach of "fuck 'em all!" and Scorched Earth are NOT going to win this. That is all fine and good in here and with other very decided right wing voters. But that WILL lose the election at this point.

Trump NEEDS to stop with the personal school yard bullshit. Stand above the crap, and stick to his policies and her failed policies. Lean on the fact that the nation in general REALLY distrusts Californians (its a lost body of electorate anyway for him, California that is). Point to the fact that court's have upheld his policies after numerous challenges. Point to the Dem's failures. One can have a big ego and not take shit but still not sling crap back in the amount and veracity he does.

I agree, he certainly has earned the right to do it, but do it AFTER the work is done. He needs the middle and un-convinced to sway his way in order to get that work done. Its really that simple.

We all know Donnie could do/be better, but he is the ONLY choice we have. The base has spoken and it's a simple binary choice at this point. I love the bastard and don't give a rat's ass whether this nation votes for him or not. They get what they deserve.

Some people you just can't reach and others are just too dumb to critically think on their own without the TV telling them how to. It's like having a drug addict child, sometimes you just have to let them fall until they can no longer take it.

 

[regor]

My mom is definitely not flip flopping, although I hope she does....she has been a dem her whole life....she was finally starting to see a little light with biden and saying hes not fit to run the country...but as soon as he dropped out she was back with them.....

Show her this and tell her she's facilitating it by voting for these people.

 

[PlanB]

My mom is definitely not flip flopping, although I hope she does....she has been a dem her whole life....she was finally starting to see a little light with biden and saying hes not fit to run the country...but as soon as he dropped out she was back with them.....

There is such a huge gap between MAGA and the dems. It's just hard for me to believe that you are not on either one side or the other.

Edit: BTW, Kamala is everything Biden is but much worse. She is as far left as it gets. If your mom does not like Biden, Kamala should not be a consideration.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Same question to you, did a demented pedophile receive 81 million legitimate votes?

The evidence definitely points to no. Again, that is NOT how you get the overwhelming majority of the votes and that is how Trump can best beat their cheating. Win by SOOO much that there is no way they can fake that many votes. pushing the middle away by school yard rhetoric will make it hard to achieve that.

 

[samsah33]

Trump shutting his mouth won't make a difference. The mainstream media has Harris/Walz's backs. Trump could cure cancer and the headlines would read that Trump is eliminating research and healthcare jobs, yet they remain silent on Walz's pattern on lying about his military background, about Harris' positions (political), heck, they even ignored Biden's comment last night about fine people on both sides of the Israel/Hamas conflict. Trump is Trump, and no matter what he says or does, he will continue to be vilified by the media, and that same media will give Harris/Walz a pass.

 

[Gelcoater]

There is no longer a middle... Maybe just people looking to justify voting for communists.

It’s coming to fruition.
In 84/5 ish I went to Esperanza HS in Yorba Linda.

Back then it wasn’t Bobby V’s Yorba Linda.
It was still fairly small town.
History teacher Mr. Rodriguez (I slept through his class for a quarter before he sat the new girl from Florida next to me, then Ididn’t sleep any more)


He told us we were all what is described as middle class. You aren’t rich, you aren’t poor.
And in your life time you will see a dramatic decline to the middle class.
More rich and more poor, which one will you become?


Fritz Rodriguez
One of the most rad teachers I ever had, and one of the only I can remember their name based or merit rather than

 

[Badchoices03]

Trump shutting his mouth won't make a difference. The mainstream media has Harris/Walz's backs. Trump could cure cancer and the headlines would read that Trump is eliminating research and healthcare jobs, yet they remain silent on Walz's pattern on lying about his military background, about Harris' positions (political), heck, they even ignored Biden's comment last night about fine people on both sides of the Israel/Hamas conflict. Trump is Trump, and no matter what he says or does, he will continue to be vilified by the media, and that same media will give Harris/Walz a pass.

I got a bold idea....how about Trump not say shit that he know the media will feed off of....all he has to do is ride that line for the next few months....play their games, tell everyone what they want to hear....win the election, and then give them hell!!....I just don't get whats so hard to understand...I guess I need to head back to the lounge...lol

 

[Wizard29]

Trump shutting his mouth won't make a difference. The mainstream media has Harris/Walz's backs. Trump could cure cancer and the headlines would read that Trump is eliminating research and healthcare jobs, yet they remain silent on Walz's pattern on lying about his military background, about Harris' positions (political), heck, they even ignored Biden's comment last night about fine people on both sides of the Israel/Hamas conflict. Trump is Trump, and no matter what he says or does, he will continue to be vilified by the media, and that same media will give Harris/Walz a pass.

So basically you and those who say it doesn't matter are admitting defeat.

Trump has to play the game here. We need those who are in the middle. We may not understand why they are in the middle and what is wrong with them, but the fact remains - they are in the middle.

Play the game, Trump. It's chess, not checkers.

I'm hoping he does have a strategy in place where he's going to rile the other side up and get them all spun out and then settle down and play the good guy. Obviously we've seen how the media and stupid voters can't seem to remember what happened more than a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

We all know Donnie could do/be better, but he is the ONLY choice we have. The base has spoken and it's a simple binary choice at this point. I love the bastard and don't give a rat's ass whether this nation votes for him or not. They get what they deserve.

Some people you just can't reach and others are just too dumb to critically think on their own without the TV telling them how to. It's like having a drug addict child, sometimes you just have to let them fall until they can no longer take it.


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100% agree its a binary choice, but in order to make it a better situation for all us, Donnie needs to calm the school boy shit a bit (not entirely, we all like to see the poignant jabs on the correct occasion) and take more of a political high road.

You have a group of 5 people. 2 are really good friends of yours, 1 really doesn't like you and you know it. The other 2 are a toss up but you need 3 people to side with you for you to make this obvious great investment that is a sure thing. Are you going to play it up with inside jokes and ribbing to your 2 friends and hope 1 of those 2 might want to join? Or are you going to try to shift your strategy to appeal more to the concerns and thoughts of the 2?

This example can be split in as fine of a hair as you would like, but without getting into feelings and beliefs, this is more-or-less where the republicans are at right now with the '24 election. Chum it and possibly lose it all, or mold and tweak the delivery and ensure the win. Simple as that.

 

[Bucs 0340]

It’s coming to fruition.
In 84/5 ish I went to Esperanza HS in Yorba Linda.

Back then it wasn’t Bobby V’s Yorba Linda.
It was still fairly small town.
History teacher Mr. Rodriguez (I slept through his class for a quarter before he sat the new girl from Florida next to me, then Ididn’t sleep any more)


He told us we were all what is described as middle class. You aren’t rich, you aren’t poor.
And in your life time you will see a dramatic decline to the middle class.
More rich and more poor, which one will you become?


Fritz Rodriguez
One of the most rad teachers I ever had, and one of the only I can remember their name based or merit rather than

Its been a while since high school. But isn't EHS in Anaheim. Maybe PYLSD.

 

[500bbc]

The actual fact is he won in 2016 with his bombast, insults and rhetoric. He also won in 2020 with the most votes for POTUS in our country's history. How does anyone insist reining back his personality will get him 10 million more votes while accounting for the votes he would lose by becoming the politician we're all sick of?

 

[Bucs 0340]

The actual fact is he won in 2016 with his bombast, insults and rhetoric. He also won in 2020 with the most votes for POTUS in our country's history. How does anyone insist reining back his personality will get him 10 million more votes while accounting for the votes he would lose by becoming the politician we're all sick of?

There is a whole new group of voters from 2016. Its been 8 years and now those 10-16 year olds are now 18 - 24 and don't like his old style. IMO he lost in 2020 for the same reasons. Maybe not 81m for Biden. But he still lost.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

There is a whole new group of voters from 2016. Its been 8 years and now those 10-16 year olds are now 18 - 24 and don't like his old style. IMO he lost in 2020 for the same reasons. Maybe not 81m for Biden. But he still lost.

This right here. Gen Z don't respond well to overly harsh words and rhetoric. We all know they, and the world, is far worse off because they can't deal with it, but it is still the fact. use too much of it and you lose an entire generation of voters. Remember how school bullying has been portrayed for the last 15 years? How bullying has been pushed as one of the worst things you can ever do to a person? We'll guess what Trump's rhetoric comes off as..... BULLYING!

We all love it and the resurgence of the dark comedy we have seen lately might be a glimmer of hope that it is starting to come back, but the bottom line is, an entire generation of voters do not share the same belief as us and because of that simple fact, they are turning the other way.

 

[samsah33]

I got a bold idea....how about Trump not say shit that he know the media will feed off of....all he has to do is ride that line for the next few months....play their games, tell everyone what they want to hear....win the election, and then give them hell!!....I just don't get whats so hard to understand...I guess I need to head back to the lounge...lol

So basically you and those who say it doesn't matter are admitting defeat.

Trump has to play the game here. We need those who are in the middle. We may not understand why they are in the middle and what is wrong with them, but the fact remains - they are in the middle.

Play the game, Trump. It's chess, not checkers.

I'm hoping he does have a strategy in place where he's going to rile the other side up and get them all spun out and then settle down and play the good guy. Obviously we've seen how the media and stupid voters can't seem to remember what happened more than a couple of weeks ago.

No matter what he does or says, the media will spin it against him and in favor of Harris. Should he just shut his mouth and adopt a basement strategy like Biden did and Harris is currently doing? The media will start to call him afraid to go out and say he must be old and senile. Should he just state his positions? He's kinda done that, like on tips: the media was silent when Trump said he's against taxing tips but thought it was the best thing since sliced bread when Harris proposed it and ignored her previous positions. Trump has said many times that he won't sign any bills that ban abortion, yet the media still calls him a threat to women's rights and claim that he will ban abortion. Remember that Trump is the threat to democracy and their "installed" candidate is the essence of true democracy...!

My point is that no matter what he say or does, the deck is stacked against him and in favor of Harris. How many people do you honestly think are on the fence right now? Everybody knows who Trump is and how they feel about him except maybe the living-under-a-rock caveman from Geico, and I don't think that Trump changing his demeanor to unicorn farts and butterfly shit is going to change anybody's mind. Plus, if he does change his demeanor, then the media will call him out for being plastic, disingenuous, and pandering for votes...

I think there's real hope at this point with Scott Presler and Lara Trump and their continued pursuit of honest voting (I know, oxymoron...). They're taking their lessons from the D's 2020 playbook and encouraging early/mail voting, challenging voter rolls & legislation BEFORE the election, pursuing voter registrations, etc... I think they will have a far more positive impact on this election compared to Trump simply toning down the rhetoric.

 

[Gelcoater]

Its been a while since high school. But isn't EHS in Anaheim. Maybe PYLSD.

I honestly don’t care anymore
It’s off Orangethorp and Kellog? If I remember right?
There probably is a YL high school at this point?
But back then ES was This! aside of the tracks. Canyon HS was the other.

If you are local cruise down to Esperanza burger. Get the Frisco burger
Walk around and see all the Esperanza HS Baseball, Football, Cheer, etc teams from over the years on the walls.