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They paid the ultimate price to save others despite being instructed to "stand down." Obama's job approval rating drops 7 points in 3 days.

They may have saved more than the thirty or so folks at the compound they helped get out, they may have saved a nation.
 

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OBUMMER and his cronies ( Biden, Pilosi and Reed ) should be tried for treason.
 

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If you want to start a thread honoring a couple of fallen soldiers I'm all for it.....
That being said that is hardly what this thread is. We get it Doc, you don't like the Kenyan,
so much that you burn away hours of your life starting threads in the political
section of boating websights. That's fine too- it's your time. My opinion is you should
leave these two guys out of your bs threads. you have as much idea as the
man in the moon as to what really happened....they are dead -show some class
and leave them out of whatever the fuck it is you try to accomplish
on here
 
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If you want to start a thread honoring a couple of fallen soldiers I'm all for it.....
That being said that is hardly what this thread is. We get it Doc, you don't like the Kenyan,
so much that you burn away hours of your life starting threads in the political
section of boating websights. That's fine too it's your time. My opinion is you should
leave these two guys out of your bs threads.

As opposed to you spending hours on boating forum PRF's stalking a few particular members?

Doc is correct. These 2 guys said "fuck this shit"!
They stood their ground, to the end.
Saved as many souls as they could, and displayed exactly the thing that Heros are made of.

I do get your point. Politicizing their actions smacks of disrespect in a way.
BUT, IMO, a bigger travesty would be to sweep their actions under the rug, as You and the WH would prefer.

What does it say about this disgrace in the Oval Office when an act of extreme heroism by 2 exceptional soldiers results in "embarrassing" the president??

These 2 brave soldiers may indeed have saved more than the people on location, they very well may have changed history.
 

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I have mixed opinions on this, they should in no way be used as political pawns, BUT their death and heroic efforts to save lives should not be swept under the rug nor should those in command be allowed to remain silent and spin a story to cover horrible decision making.

Again, I'll rest my opinions until the truth comes out. But if it's slow to come or the media ignores the pleas to find the real truth, showing the heros and telling what is known of their story may be the only way to apply the pressure. Rather than scolding Doc, I prefer to put my congressional reps on notice that I want answers.
 

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As opposed to you spending hours on boating forum PRF's stalking a few particular members?

Doc is correct. These 2 guys said "fuck this shit"!
They stood their ground, to the end.
Saved as many souls as they could, and displayed exactly the thing that Heros are made of.

I do get your point. Politicizing their actions smacks of disrespect in a way.
BUT, IMO, a bigger travesty would be to sweep their actions under the rug, as You and the WH would prefer.

What does it say about this disgrace in the Oval Office when an act of extreme heroism by 2 exceptional soldiers results in "embarrassing" the president??

These 2 brave soldiers may indeed have saved more than the people on location, they very well may have changed history.

Correct -a useless endeavor on my part
That's why I'm gone, mr 10000+
Posts. We both agree these guys are Hero's though and that's a good thing
May they rest in peace and the first sentence of my post clearly indicates I don't want anything swept under the rug- but such is your way Tommy, to put words into someone's mouth when not in their presence. The polls have swung my way as of late
 
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If you want to start a thread honoring a couple of fallen soldiers I'm all for it.....
That being said that is hardly what this thread is. We get it Doc, you don't like the Kenyan,
so much that you burn away hours of your life starting threads in the political
section of boating websights. That's fine too- it's your time. My opinion is you should
leave these two guys out of your bs threads. you have as much idea as the
man in the moon as to what really happened....they are dead -show some class
and leave them out of whatever the fuck it is you try to accomplish
on here


So why do you read his threads ya fucking nitwit?
 

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So why do you read his threads ya fucking nitwit?

So you just got banned from pb for calling the other members names and you come over here
and call me a fucking nitwit? Uh ok-
How's that Temper working out for ya:lmao:lmao
 

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So you just got banned from pb for calling the other members names and you come over here
and call me a fucking nitwit? Uh ok-
How's that Temper working out for ya:lmao:lmao

Just fine ya fucking nitwit.

You're still reading Doc's thread aren't you?:p:p
 

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Call the vatican...sainthood on the horizon...

Talk about disrespect. Pretty sad comment considering they died in the line of duty protecting your rights to say stupid shit......But that's what's to be expected of Liberals.:thumbsdown
 

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Call the vatican...sainthood on the horizon...

You appear quite uninformed again shue. Are you aware of this story at all? I understand your liberal network media outlets are covering it as best as they can but it appears your hero was directly responsible for zero response to such an American tragedy?

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There's actually a lot that will not come to light until after the election:

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There's actually a lot that will not come to light until after the election:

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If this is true, more than the tip of the iceberg is exposed......

General Ham Refutes President Obama And Leon Panetta


By Top News Reports
Oct. 28, 2012

In a previous article, we have called for General Ham to step down because of his failure to act in Libya. Apparently now, General Ham told Congressman Jason Chaffetz that the forces were available, but that no order to use them was given. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta had claimed that the refusal to use force had come from him, General Dempsey and General Ham. Secretary Panetta was using the Sergeant Schultz defense when confronted by evidence that "I knew nothing". During a rescue operation intel is always going to be limited but there was actually plenty of intel that we are aware of even in declassified documents.


Carter Ham is taking no responsibility for the decision not to bail out the consulate and the Navy SEALS, which President Obama said, "The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives -- Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to." According to the 4 star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.
 

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You appear quite uninformed again shue. Are you aware of this story at all? I understand your liberal network media outlets are covering it as best as they can but it appears your hero was directly responsible for zero response to such an American tragedy?

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So you respond to shue but not a word about my criticism of you .....
Two of your cronies actually came real close to agreeing with me, of course
they included the usual caveat, but still, they came close. What is your reply
to my charge that these two fallen heroes should be left out
of your ongoing crusade against the president?
 

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Sorry Dan, but only the liberal media can separate the two. This president is directly involved with these two hero's deaths and until the press and administration finally comes clean with all the facts it's the press's responsibility to dig into it. Did you know that they watched this entire disaster unfold from the situation room and maintained the stand down order to all those who could've offered support? How do you separate this? After listening to the father of one of them describe his meeting with the president and Biden as the bodies arrived in the US, I can assure you the families of these brave men will NEVER separate the president's responsibilities from their son's tragic deaths. I understand how both you and the liberal press are quite desperate to separate them but that doesn't mean they are not directly related. Sorry Dan, this goes far beyond politics. This is failed leadership's worst nightmare and your Kenyan hero is directly responsible as you will see the day it all unfolds.
 
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And the Kenyan is now stonewalling questions about it even on his own MSNBC network!!! So is this the transparency you voted for libs???? This is a disgrace!!
 

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The father of one soldier is live on Hannity describing the cold meeting with O and Hillary when his son's body came home. Really pathetic how this man was treated and no explanation given. He called them cowards in the WH who stood by and watched his son die doing nothing and didn't have the integrity or honor step up and tell the story of what happened. He refused to make it political and just wants to know the truth.
 

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Sorry Dan, but only the liberal media can separate the two. This president is directly involved with these two hero's deaths and until the press and administration finally comes clean with all the facts it's the press's responsibility to dig into it. Did you know that they watched this entire disaster unfold from the situation room and maintained the stand down order to all those who could've offered support? How do you separate this? After listening to the father of one of them describe his meeting with the president and Biden as the bodies arrived in the US, I can assure you the families of these brave men will NEVER separate the president's responsibilities from their son's tragic deaths. I understand how both you and the liberal press are quite desperate to separate them but that doesn't mean they are not directly related. Sorry Dan, this goes far beyond politics. This is failed leadership's worst nightmare and your Kenyan hero is directly responsible as you will see the day it all unfolds.



So explain to me the exact workings of the conspiracy that's keeping the press and media from blowing the lid off this story-perhaps they don't have all thier ducks in a row to cover themselves legally if they break the story. Maybe they dont have all the facts of what happened,so they are keeping thier mouths shut? Big media has to be a little more careful than a Birther
Posting on a boating websight;they are held accountable for what they say- something
foreign to you.
 
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So explain to me the exact workings of the conspiracy that's keeping the press and media from blowing the lid off this story-perhaps they don't have all thier ducks in a row to cover themselves legally if they break the story. Maybe they dont have all the facts of what happened,so they are keeping thier mouths shut? Big media has to be a little more careful than a Birther
Posting on a boating websight;they are held accountable for what they say- something
foreign to you.


Brian Williams had the pimp tee'ed up but, as usual, delivered a soft ball and ran for the hills, in favor of social issues. Maybe Jay, Dave, or the hens on the view will get to those pertinent questions, that SHOULD have been answered long ago.
 

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So explain to me the exact workings of the conspiracy that's keeping the press and media from blowing the lid off this story-perhaps they don't have all thier ducks in a row to cover themselves legally if they break the story. Maybe they dont have all the facts of what happened,so they are keeping thier mouths shut? Big media has to be a little more careful than a Birther
Posting on a boating websight;they are held accountable for what they say- something
foreign to you.

Sorry you think this is a non-issue Dan. You happen to be dead wrong on this one. Just like Fast and Furious, you will see that the truth will eventually come to light, despite the White House's attempt to block further investigation by executive order. Everything will come to light and you will be so much prouder of your Kenyan hero.:thumbsdown
 

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You Liberals are a disgrace to the HUMAN race.
You don't care what lies are told or who dies just so You get what You want. You don't care what the pressident says or does as long as he is a Liberal.
NOW OBAMA HAS KILLED OUR TROUPS DIRECTLY AS A RESULT OF HIS INACTION - AND YOU DO NOTHING....

Obama needs to be tried for TREASON.
 

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Sorry you think this is a non-issue Dan. You happen to be dead wrong on this one. Just like Fast and Furious, you will see that the truth will eventually come to light, despite the White House's attempt to block further investigation by executive order. Everything will come to light and you will be so much prouder of your Kenyan hero.:thumbsdown


Great explanation of the media conspiracy .
 

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Poor ambassador was sexually assaulted before and after death
Politics aside, time to make that enclave a parking lot. Drones with video were over attack, cia and pentagon had live feed.

Disgusting cowardice from mgmt., regardless of party.
 

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Poor ambassador was sexually assaulted before and after death
Politics aside, time to make that enclave a parking lot. Drones with video were over attack, cia and pentagon had live feed.

Disgusting cowardice from mgmt., regardless of party.



Not true, current managements party flat out does not give a fuck.
This would have been over with one pass by an F-18 in full afterburner over the savages heads.:grumble::grumble:
 

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My point is, wrong is wrong, fry the mother fr's who chose risk mgmt. Over lives.

Dump politics and weed out the command,
And who said no.

la Rue graduate here, nough said
 

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Doc you've put up some great little cartoons in this thread
Explain how the conspiracy works to keep this out of the publics's eye
How does it benefit the networks 2nd page of the thread 3rd time I've asked you
What do you have besides comic strips?
 

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Doc you've put up some great little cartoons in this thread
Explain how the conspiracy works to keep this out of the publics's eye
How does it benefit the networks 2nd page of the thread 3rd time I've asked you
What do you have besides comic strips?

The mainstream media outlets are 100% in the tank for a liberal/socialist world and they will do nothing to jeopardize that agenda. They refused to cover Fast and Furious despite the loss of American lives - but they hounded Watergate until the president left office.
Which do you think was worse, Dan?

They now refuse to even look in the direction of Benghazi despite this being the most important story about failed leadership in my 61 year life. American lives were lost as a direct result of a "Stand Down" order given by the commander in chief but the press, and folks like yourself, refuse to listen to the facts that continue to pour in because it sheds a bad light on your Kenyan hero. Face it Dan, he's a failed leader of the worst kind.

They spent the majority of the presidential campaign overlooking unemployment, deficit spending, failed stimulus spending, the national debt, the mid-term shellacking, a president that refused to do anything but campaign, golf and vacation by going after Romney about his tax returns. How badly did that backfire on them when his charitable contributions eclipsed anything your Kenyan hero ever donated to help others and his complete success and fiscal responsibility was proven in black and white with the returns? They are worried about high school pranks rather than our nation's economy? They are simply misguided in every way and it's proving costly to them and their favored party.

I guarantee Dan, that every single one of these limp-wristed, liberal news sources with drooping ratings, is working their fool heads off in an attempt to find someone besides their Golden Boy responsible for the Benghazi disaster but they've been unable to turn up anything for one reason. He's guilty of failed leadership and they simply cannot say that out loud and maintain their course to socialism with the Kenyan. Even Hillary's attempt to take responsibility failed the same day she professed such. It seems that being in the tank for the wrong person has it's costs. The price they have paid is truth, honest reporting, and exposure, which they are so quick to provide when it sheds a dark light on a conservative or constitutional lover.

It really boils down to this: "They joined the wrong team" and they have far too much pride to stand up and tell the truth. They would rather go down in flames and their ratings prove my point.
 

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Doc you've put up some great little cartoons in this thread

What do you have besides comic strips?
I doubt you are really looking for substance on this subject but, if you are, I'll start with a few. I have hundreds of others, should this fall short.

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-ahlert/arming-jihadists-backfires-in-benghazi/

http://patdollard.com/2012/10/newt-emails-show-benghazi-rescue-was-possible-but-obama-ordered-stand-down-no-rescue/

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-hiding-arms-shipments-to-syrian-jihadists/

[video=youtube;rubBK_iMfVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rubBK_iMfVU"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rubBK_iMfVU[/video]
 

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Doc you've put up some great little cartoons in this thread
Explain how the conspiracy works to keep this out of the publics's eye
How does it benefit the networks 2nd page of the thread 3rd time I've asked you
What do you have besides comic strips?

MSM is self admittedly 90% left wing ya fucking nitwit. What? You live under a rock?:p:p
 
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