Travertine pool and BBQ area deck question

[boatpi]

So time to do major landscape project in the back yead, issue is washed concrete vs travertine. We have two basic areas, one is raised seating and BBQ area that is about 1600 sq feet. Second is the adjoining pool deck area. In the pool deck we care considering a mixture to travertine and washed concrete with fake grass. Need some expert opinions, and thoughts on pricing for the 1600 square foot , two level dining and BBQ area. This is part of the huge six figure complete redo for our new to us house in Las Vegas. Thanks RDP members in advance, and Happy New Year.

 

[EarpRider]

What's washed concrete? Stamped?
Anyway travertine.

 

[DWC]

In So Cal, I’d do concrete. The maintenance is way easier. In Havasu, Travertine or pavers 100%. The alkaline is too much to fight in Havasu. Pretty sure Vegas is similar but maybe not as bad depending on the area.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Pictures of existing to give idea what would go with what you have and or can change that will look right

 

[boatpi]

One with all the dirt and the post in the ground is going to be the barbecue and cantilever patio area and the other one is obviously the existing pool deck that it’s all gonna be demoed.

 

[boatpi]

Better picture looking with the barbecue I want developed is an L shaped in front of us the first two post lesson why they’ll be a tree patio cover the one beyond that the four post in the center left. It’s going to be a 24 x 20‘ cantilever they’ll have raised tables and then a TV wall on the left Will look at maybe Travertine for this area or wash concrete not sure . Walking up to the two tables that’ll be 8 feet long going into the back wall, which would’ve built along the left on the back of the cover. They’re gonna have fire in the center and about 4 feet tall with table top. Probably three steps up from the main pool area in the previous post.

 

[DB / HAV]

As DWC mentioned, travertine in this area will make more sense. I strongly suggests using a good landscape architect. This will save a lot of money in the long term and they will suggest the best materials for the area. Please post pictures, you have an awesome slate to work with!!

 

[Happy Smitty]

I went with silver travertine pavers and matching travertine stacked stone on vertical surfaces. Looks great and I'd choose it again. Only issue is it's slippery when wet.

 

[Happy Smitty]

Here's a pic

 

[FishSniper]

Here's a pic View attachment 1465206

We really liked the silver travertine but it didn’t go with the house color so we went with a more tan color turned out nice but the silver has a better look.

 

[Caydens Cat]

Another take is that fake grass, aka turf, gets hot AF in the desert sun. I really
Ike the look and upkeep of ours, but something to keep in mid. Especially if barefoot in Vegas by the pool

 

[Melloyellovector]

Personally not a fan of travertine. It can look nice, it’s just 20 years ago style.
Think I’d do large format porcelain pavers set on concrete base
or go with artistic pavers ( like other house ) if your concerned about temps.

 

[Mr. C]

What's washed concrete? Stamped?
Anyway travertine.
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Someone needs to rescue that poor mistreated puppy.

 

[Orange Juice]

Son in law just did his new pool, and used travertine pavers. It looks amazing.

 

[boatpi]

We
Do have a landscape architect on board and some renters are more so seeking some thoughts to what others paid for that square footage and they’re experience using travertine pavers over a Period of time.

 

[DLC]

Don’t forget misting & or fog system to keep areas cool during summer grilling & baseball games on the TV

Looks awesome!

 

[NicPaus]

Travertine pavers would be more money unless not many guys in your area that specialize in the sand finish concrete. Not sure if you are referring to exposed AG concrete or washed sand. Both require a special mix from the plant. Lately by me washed sand finish is popular. Looks pimp when done correctly. Recently went to one that had a black mix. Similar to exposed aggregate but sand so it's smaller and tighter finish.

A combination of both would make it so it's not to much of each. But Travertine is more old school now. Like MYV mentioned large porcelain pavers and exposed sand finish is more up to date. That's a lot of sq ft. At $30+ a sq ft ads up quick.

The last house I lived in was all Travertine. Built in 08 and outdated. My Ex wants it all torn out and redone. Problem is it's 3000 sq ft of flooring and in 5 bathrooms. So not a easy task.

 

[FROGMAN524]

I’m at the same crossroads. Don’t go all travertine with some fake grass or go large format like the Belgard products here:

Porcelain Pavers

Belgard porcelain pavers offer the perfect blend of aesthetics and durability for your outdoor spaces. Ideal for pool decks, patios, and more.

www.belgard.com

 

[boatpi]

Yes, $30+ per square foot is $, as washed concrete special mix is about $9 a square foot.

 

[boatpi]

Renderings so far.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Yes, $30+ per square foot is $, as washed concrete special mix is about $9 a square foot.

9psf on topcast finish is low, like I could sub jobs to him and make more then doing myself low

 

[Racer56]

9psf on topcast finish is low, like I could sub jobs to him and make more then doing myself low

I charge 12 per s/f for topcast.

 

[NicPaus]

I charge 12 per s/f for topcast.

Damn. Thats crazy low for the Southbay. Is that if it's already to pour? No demo or rebar.

I try and not do concrete anymore. But I just did 1 1400 sq ft for $20 a sq ft for broom finish and 500 sq ft $30 for the pavers as part of a new build. My unlicensed concrete guy wanted the same.

 

[Racer56]

Damn. Thats crazy low for the Southbay. Is that if it's already to pour? No demo or rebar.

I try and not do concrete anymore. But I just did 1 1400 sq ft for $20 a sq ft for broom finish and 500 sq ft $30 for the pavers as part of a new build. My unlicensed concrete guy wanted the same.

I'm at a jobsite now with topcast concrete we poured last week.

This is 12 s/f formed, rebar and poured.

This is 20 s/f formed, rebar and poured.

Demo, grading and base not included in above pricing.

 

[THE WIDGE]

Can large travertine tiles be filled. My new to me backyard in havasu was done in travertine and a few tiles have significant pitting, backyard was built in 2017

 

[Melloyellovector]

Can large travertine tiles be filled. My new to me backyard in havasu was done in travertine and a few tiles have significant pitting, backyard was built in 2017

Just use similar color grout and fill holes

 

[Racer56]

Can large travertine tiles be filled. My new to me backyard in havasu was done in travertine and a few tiles have significant pitting, backyard was built in 2017

Yes, but normally it's done by the supplier. Travertine comes in filled and unfilled. I would think you could have a stone contractor pressure wash and fill the holes.