Trabuco canyon fire

[HBCraig]

From HB

 

[jesco]

We were on voluntary evacuation last night, it was close enough to make you think, but with the wind blowing the way it was it was blowing the fire up and away form our house. This AM it looked like it was getting handled, but the wind picked back up a little and got it ripping again.

 

[throttle]

We were on voluntary evacuation last night, it was close enough to make you think, but with the wind blowing the way it was it was blowing the fire up and away form our house. This AM it looked like it was getting handled, but the wind picked back up a little and got it ripping again.

Lots of factors come together here. In short, fire will be less active in the early morning hours, then as fuels become preheated things become more volatile. The afternoons will be very active and then as temperatures change so does the airflow and wind, this will promote the fire line to expand and widen again. Expect this behavior to continue until fire lines are reinforced.

 

[evantwheeler]

Lots of factors come together here. In short, fire will be less active in the early morning hours, then as fuels become preheated things become more volatile. The afternoons will be very active and then as temperatures change so does the airflow and wind, this will promote the fire line to expand and widen again. Expect this behavior to continue until fire lines are reinforced.

How does the 20 degree F temperature drop in ambient the next week compared to the last week come into play? Does it actually help calm the fire down? Or does it just give the men and women on the ground fighting it relief from the really brutal heat?

 

[ChumpChange]

Coming down the 71 this morning

 

[throttle]

How does the 20 degree F temperature drop in ambient the next week compared to the last week come into play? Does it actually help calm the fire down? Or does it just give the men and women on the ground fighting it relief from the really brutal heat?

Fuel moistures will change.

 

[oldman]

From Riverside. Tyler mall area

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Victorville headed home from topock

In n out. Barstow.

 

[attitude]

Behind my old neighborhood, Facebook says the fire is heading south towards Elsinore but I’ve also heard the winds are expect to shift East

 

[Motoxxxloak]

From an employee that lives in Elsinore. They are on evacuation standby.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

x.com

x.com

Crazy

 

[CLCookie]

Burning much hotter down by Ortega and Elsinore right now.

 

[HCP3]

Ortega is now closed.

Fire has crossed Ortega Highway.

 

[evantwheeler]

Fire has crossed Ortega Highway.

Hoping the fire on the East facing mountains uphill of south Lake Elsinore a month or so back slows this thing way down if it gets that far

 

[Music to my Ears]

Our son is on this fire now. Curious to get an update at some point but I imagine he’s pretty occupied at the moment.

 

[evantwheeler]

Hoping the fire on the East facing mountains uphill of south Lake Elsinore a month or so back slows this thing way down if it gets that far

Latest update has it running down the 74 into Lakeland Village area with multiple structures involved.

 

[attitude]

The Sheriffs department is getting ready to lock down Horse Thief Canyon, they put the HOA president on notice and have about 25 cars staged in the neighborhood. The wind has picked up which is causing this response according to the HOA president.

 

[4Waters]

 

[Motoxxxloak]

Fire has officially entered Lake Elsinore, and is moving fast. My dad sent me this from his front yard.

 

[4Waters]

 

[HCP3]

19,000 acres.

 

[HCP3]

Two DC-10's.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Wow. Following. All of you in the path stay safe.

 

[Mandelon]

If I was a foreign power or terrorist organization and wanted to fuck with the US, this would be the way.

 

[Mikemo_SDS]

My moms back yard in Elsinore

 

[DUN]

Heard El Cariso Village getting hit very hard....

 

[Happy Smitty]

I moved out of Robinson Ranch Trabuco Hilands almost 8 years ago. My friend sent me a pic of my old house and the fire burning nearby.

 

[Happy Smitty]

That's in front of my old house last night.

 

[Bajastu]

If your boat is at Martinez Interior, it’s now schedule 2 evacuation. I’d get my boat out of there. I work just up the street and the county loves to close off Temescal Canyon Rd.

 

[4Waters]

If your boat is at Martinez Interior, it’s now schedule 2 evacuation. I’d get my boat out of there. I work just up the street and the county loves to close off Temescal Canyon Rd.

Start it's own thread so this information isn't buried in this thread

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Supposed to be a massive show of force on grand right now in Elsinore according to the radio chatter. Prayers are with those guys. Hold the line!

 

[Motoxxxloak]

 

[evantwheeler]

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Where is this photo from?
Edit: sorry, i see you posted an earlier photo from your dad in Elsinore

 

[Motoxxxloak]

Where is this photo from?
Edit: sorry, i see you posted an earlier photo from your dad in Elsinore

Yes sorry. Elsinore on grand and top of Macy

 

[evantwheeler]

Yes sorry. Elsinore on grand and top of Macy

That is ominous. Praying they stop it at the base of the hill.

 

[DUN]

I don't ever remember a fire in that area spanning the size of Trabuco Canyon all the way to Lakeland Village. That's crazy.

 

[DWC]

Just took off from Ontario. . Fires in every direction. Hopefully the cooler weather and calmer winds help get a handle on this.

 

[robk]

Is there a word for this situation where the smoke essentially makes a thunderhead?

Pyrocumulus

 

[Justsomeguy]

Last night from the deck.
Bridge fire:

Line fire:

Airport wasn't really visible last night. My view ends at the communication towers. They pretty much held that line. It then shifted down towards elsinore. All I can see is smoke.

Did catch one of the DC10s though.

 

[evantwheeler]

Cant seem to find any updates on what happened overnight with the fire making its way down towards Elsinore. It seems the wind shifter from east blowing to north blowing. It was a black cloud over Temecula valley last night, and this AM it was clear skies.

 

[spectra3279]

Because some idiots started it, is this considered man made global warming?

 

[Flatsix66]

Last night and this morning near Ortega and on South Main Divide. We were under a mandatory evac but decided to stay. About a half dozen fire engines in our neighborhood and hotshots digging around the perimeter. Edison decided we didn’t need power and shut us off last night. This morning things are looking much better.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Because some idiots started it, is this considered man made global warming?

Of course. The left never lets a crisis go to waste, at some point Newsom or some other idiot is going to blame the fires on climate change.

They fail to mention the fire’s intensity and breadth of destruction is due to non-existent forest/land fuels management policies.

 

[bmill514]

My view of the fire last night in Elsinore… I’m tucked up in the hills so I don’t have much notice once the flames hit the ridge. Watched the smoke move for a while and once I saw flames come over I grabbed the wife and kid and took off. The Holy Jim fire in 2018 surrounded my neighborhood on all 3 sides, learned my lesson.

 

[evantwheeler]

My view of the fire last night in Elsinore… I’m tucked up in the hills so I don’t have much notice once the flames hit the ridge. Watched the smoke move for a while and once I saw flames come over I grabbed the wife and kid and took off. The Holy Jim fire in 2018 surrounded my neighborhood on all 3 sides, learned my lesson. View attachment 1427704

How are things looking today/tonight?

 

[Tooms22]

It was looking relatively mellow until this flare up 10 mins ago. Nothing like yesterday but still not great.

 

[oldman]

They fail to mention the fire’s intensity and breadth of destruction is due to non-existent forest/land fuels management policies.

This, tree huggers refusing to touch the forest under the guise of green. clear some brush, cull the forest, Do managed burns. Do we sue the state for the giant smoke cloud they let loose? we never had huge million acre fires when we did forest management.
Of course every fire is a fire storm when you leave this amount of fuel load just laying around to burn.
Sorry Rant off.

 

[bmill514]

How are things looking today/tonight?

Came back down this way around 3pm and there was hardly any smoke. Hills are smoldering but seemed very calm which felt weird. When I left last night there were fire crews and police racing around and road blocks. None of that in my area when I came home. Hell some of the neighbors told me that the trash got picked up today

I didn’t go by the Ortega, they got the grunt of it. I’m sure it is a different scene over there right now

 

[Flatsix66]

Wow, El Cariso has a bunch of burned out properties. Pretty crazy how some houses burn to the ground and others that seem like total fire hazards are untouched. Still a bunch of spot fires burning but the walls of flames are gone. One fenced property that burned out had a huge collection of MG and other 70s

sportscars, all burned.

 

[DUN]

Wow, El Cariso has a bunch of burned out properties. Pretty crazy how some houses burn to the ground and others that seem like total fire hazards are untouched. Still a bunch of spot fires burning but the walls of flames are gone. One fenced property that burned out had a huge collection of MG and other 70s View attachment 1427828 View attachment 1427829 View attachment 1427830 View attachment 1427831 sportscars, all burned.

I heard a third hand story last night of a pretty wild escape.. very sad.


I think I've seen similar cars to that with for sale signs in that very spot over the years, never knew what was behind the fence. What a bummer

 

[Taboma]

This, tree huggers refusing to touch the forest under the guise of green. clear some brush, cull the forest, Do managed burns. Do we sue the state for the giant smoke cloud they let loose? we never had huge million acre fires when we did forest management.
Of course every fire is a fire storm when you leave this amount of fuel load just laying around to burn.
Sorry Rant off.

Although your point is well taken, all three of the So Cal fires are burning in National Forests, not state. Just as all the regularly scheduled fires at Camp Pendleton are on Federal Property.
The Federal Government owns 58% of the forest land in California, with 3% of forest lands being owned by the state.
8/4/20 the Feds and State Representatives signed a MOU for "AGREEMENT FOR SHARED STEWARDSHIP OF CALIFORNIA’S FOREST AND RANGELANDS Between the STATE OF CALIFORNIA And the USDA, FOREST SERVICE PACIFIC SOUTHWEST REGION".

" With California’s landscape heavily divided among multiple landowners, coordinated stewardship is critical to success. The U.S. Forest Service’s Pacific Southwest Region manages over 20 million acres across 18 National Forests in California. The State of California has nearly14 million acres of private or state-owned forested lands within its jurisdiction. Together this represents over one-third of California’s landmass. "

Essentially dollars will be invested by both sides to reduce wildfire risks by various means starting with 500,000 acres a year and by 2025 achieving 1 million acres per year.

If you're interested you can read the PDF of the agreement here.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/8.12.20-CA-Shared-Stewardship-MOU.pdf

I do know that during the winter there's been an increased efforts in various forest areas of San Diego County's mountains. As you can see by the acreages stated above, it's a daunting task that's going to take years.

Of course in our case, losing our home in a '07 wildfire, it had nothing to do with forest management, it's our lovely native chaparral the huggers worship and protect.
We run into this weed devotion annually when we write letters to the San Diego River Park conservancy to allow us to clear a wider swath to gain more clearance that we'll gladly pay for ----- Oh no, that weed is protected they scream in defense.