Time for y’all in CA to stock up on ICE vehicles

[oldman]

Idiots!


Is there even enough power capability to generate that kind of initiative? I don’t think you’ll find the power capability/technology in the next 100 years with what the state is asking for.

No, but that's the whole premise, Get you in electric cars, then control when and where you can go.

 

[attitude]

total cluster fuck!

Is Pete going to start selling electric trucks?

I really think electric with a generator to power it like a locomotive is the next step for trucks.

I’ve been in the Nikola assembly plant down here and it was very impressive, I see tons of them out testing.

 

[Singleton]

Glad my current exit is July 2030.
Only way I stay past that, is if my youngest goes to college in CA. Right now all the colleges looking at her are from small Midwest and East coast schools. If she does attend a CA school, exit is 2034.

 

[Cdog]

Is Pete going to start selling electric trucks?

I really think electric with a generator to power it like a locomotive is the next step for trucks.

I’ve been in the Nikola assembly plant down here and it was very impressive, I see tons of them out testing.

They already are for CARB states. Fleets are required to buy 1 for every 10 diesel’s as of this year & it ramps up from there.

PAccar has the only CARB legal diesel engine available so far. Carb mx13.

Word is Nikola is about to go tits up on their class 8

 

[attitude]

They already are for CARB states. Fleets are required to buy 1 for every 10 diesel’s as of this year & it ramps up from there.

PAccar has the only CARB legal diesel engine available so far. Carb mx13.

Word is Nikola is about to go tits up on their class 8

What’s the rule on out of state trucks running into CA? Before I moved I saw an old cab over, it was loud and sounded good.

 

[Cdog]

What’s the rule on out of state trucks running into CA? Before I moved I saw an old cab over, it was loud and sounded good.

Must have CARB cert to enter CA. AZ registration with Carb cert can go in & out of CA but can’t register in CA.

The whole industry is going to move to Phoenix & Vegas

 

[rivrrts429]

I’m not a fan of electric cars. This is the reason I won’t be participating in EV’s lol

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[Go-Fly]

My prediction, power will be built into the roads. Only enough battery to drive around parking lots and get to your garage. Solves most the problems and watt meter in the vehicle to charge for usage. Can you say nuclear power.

 

[sintax]

My prediction, power will be built into the roads. Only enough battery to drive around parking lots and get to your garage. Solves most the problems and watt meter in the vehicle to charge for usage. Can you say nuclear power.

We had that game as kids. Slot cars were fun until someone ran one off the track!

 

[wzuber]

We had that game as kids. Slot cars were fun until someone ran one off the track!

Haha....xactly what I was thinkin...

 

[wzuber]

Consider this too w/ the ev push........
How many billions of $$$$ can they steal from all these development programs?
The $$$$ seems endless. I'd bet my life that's one of top reasons for this push.

 

[wzuber]

Like the train to central cali.......
Soooo
Much
Graft
Little
To
No
Progress
Huge
$$$$$$$$
Scam

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Napa getting ready to get his mail!

 

[Go-Fly]

We had that game as kids. Slot cars were fun until someone ran one off the track!

Back in the 60's my family and I went to an amusement park that had a full size, ride in slot car track. My brothers and I spent most of the day riding in it. Throttle, brake and some steering. For the life of me, I can't remember where it was at. It was a figure 8 with a bridge. Two tracks with a pit. Only two cars at a time out on the track.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

With Trump as President hopefully we'll be able to drill for oil much more on our soil and also continue to develop EV technology. I'd really like to see our country become independent from foreign oil. Build that border up and be independent from other countries. I know that's asking a lot.

 

[bonesfab]

I will just keep stocking up ice cars. 36 or 37 now. Plus all the parts. Retirement might time this just right. Now we just need stills to make gasoline. If we could do 100 octane that would be great.

 

[TPC]

Well I had my money on Trump but with Elon by his side who knows

Recently on the news Elon Musk read off a list all of the ICE vehicles he owns in response to his enemy, mentally distressed, Socialist masquerading as an environmentalist Gretta Thunberg's public attack on him.
It was a comprehensive list from exotic Porches to all kind'a ICE cars.

A Google search only mentions two but Elon has quite a stable.
He's not stupid, he knows the USA is 30 years away from ever being EV ready outside of Tesla cars.

We bought an EV 3 years ago and the public charging situation since has only got worse. Crowded, broken, unreliable and nowhere near enough of them,, but worse of all expensive to charge on the road.

If anything, Elon will go after the wasted hundreds Billions of Federal money that in 4 years only produced 2 EV charging stations and no home internet hook ups.

This is typical:

 

[Taboma]

My prediction, power will be built into the roads. Only enough battery to drive around parking lots and get to your garage. Solves most the problems and watt meter in the vehicle to charge for usage. Can you say nuclear power.

Well that should create quite the stir with the Anti-EMF crowd --- these will be huge sellers

 

[Jefftowz]

Funny that if they have their way won’t be any tow trucks to come save the dead electric cars

 

[DarkJuJu]

EPA grants California permission to ban new gas car sales by 2035
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/epa-grants-california-permission-ban-new-gas-car-sales-2035

What are they going to do with the shortfall $9+ billion they receive in gas tax revenue?

 

[Jefftowz]

What are they going to do with the shortfall $9+ billion they receive in gas tax revenue?

They are going to charge us by the mile for our electric cars.

 

[Backlash]

They are going to charge us by the mile for our electric cars.

I think you meant to say "They are going to charge THEM by the mile for using electric cars."

A lot of "Us's" in here probably won't be driving electric vehicles anytime soon.

 

[Orange Juice]

Back in the 60's my family and I went to an amusement park that had a full size, ride in slot car track. My brothers and I spent most of the day riding in it. Throttle, brake and some steering. For the life of me, I can't remember where it was at. It was a figure 8 with a bridge. Two tracks with a pit. Only two cars at a time out on the track.

I think Knottsberry farm had a slot track, and ran small 1920’s looking cars.
I think it was late 1960’s.

 

[oldman]

I think Knottsberry farm had a slot track, and ran small 1920’s looking cars.
I think it was late 1960’s.

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I remember this, along with the Alligator farm.

 

[angiebaby]

Okay. WTH is an ICE vehicle? Never have I ever heard this term before but apparently several of you have. Educate me. I learned today was a "tradwife" is. I'm learning all the new millennial lingo.

 

[napanutt]

Okay. WTH is an ICE vehicle? Never have I ever heard this term before but apparently several of you have. Educate me. I learned today was a "tradwife" is. I'm learning all the new millennial lingo.

Internal combustion engine.
Basically any vehicle running on fossil fuel.

 

[angiebaby]

LOL, I'm sitting here thinking it has something to do with (XXX) California Emissions and trying to figure out what the "I" stands for.

 

[shintoooo]

Speaking of Ice cars, yours is gonna look like this pretty soon

 

[napanutt]

Speaking of Ice cars, yours is gonna look like this pretty soon

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It’s a dry cold.

 

[shintoooo]

It’s a dry cold.

We’re entering sub zero temperatures soon. I might have to wear pants.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

The usual California haters posting on things that may or may not happen in 10 years. So predictable and boring. Even if this happens, does it really matter for most of us? If I waited until 2034 and bought a new gas burning truck I'd be almost 70 and that truck would certainly last as long as I needed it.

If California were to somehow succeed at banning the use of Classic Cars I'd leave for sure. So far on that front, all I've read about are studies being don't which equates to nodda. I'd be missing SoCal weather too if I was living under 4 feet of snow right, but he chose it and has to live with it. lol

My day today.

 

[dribble]

There’s gotta be some balance, a lot of us remember growing up and the smog was horrible in the 70’s/80’s. I don’t want to go back to that shit. The EPA and Carb were necessary, we certainly don’t need to go all electric though.

The EPA was created as a result of the Clean Air Act of 1970. CARB has been unnecessary since its inception. I appreciate that we don't have the smog we used to. I more appreciate that it was done with internal combustion technology, while making cars more powerful than they ever were. Modern day cars emit 98 percent less smog forming chemicals than they did in the 50's and 60's.

Considering that 50 percent of the electricity produced for use in California comes from burning natural gas and methane. And considering that new hydroelectric and/or nuclear power is basically off the table, going to an all electric fleet will have very little impact on air quality. I know the culture at CARB and they don't give a shit about the havoc they reek to gain a miniscule improvement in air quality.

 

[Clank123]

Yesterday in Oceanside.
Took 7 hours and 15 to 18 thousand gallons of water to put out and you pro-ev folks want to park these in your garage?
And the average home used how many gallons a month?

Also, let’s stop with the “fossil fuel” references. Proven long ago to be a made up term and not accurate. Really, from dead dinosaurs? Ridiculous!

 

[bonesfab]

Yesterday in Oceanside.
Took 7 hours and 15 to 18 thousand gallons of water to put out and you pro-ev folks want to park these in your garage?
And the average home used how many gallons a month?
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Also, let’s stop with the “fossil fuel” references. Proven long ago to be a made up term and not accurate. Really, from dead dinosaurs? Ridiculous!

Just imagine in the high density housing and parking garages these things start going up in flames. Fire trucks can't get to them to put them out. The building/block goes up in flames.

 

[TrollerDave]

Yesterday in Oceanside.
Took 7 hours and 15 to 18 thousand gallons of water to put out and you pro-ev folks want to park these in your garage?
And the average home used how many gallons a month?
View attachment 1464439
Also, let’s stop with the “fossil fuel” references. Proven long ago to be a made up term and not accurate. Really, from dead dinosaurs? Ridiculous!

But they got Dino in the name and logo.

 

[mash on it]

Sinclair logo.
There's one in Flagstaff, Little America.

Dan'l

 

[FROGMAN524]

Must have CARB cert to enter CA. AZ registration with Carb cert can go in & out of CA but can’t register in CA.

The whole industry is going to move to Phoenix & Vegas

I gotta hurry up with that 93/40/68 interchange in Kingman

Improvement projects galore set for I-40, US 93 in Arizona

2025 is shaping up to be a big year for improvement projects on the Interstate 40 and US 93 corridors in northwestern Arizona.

ktar.com

 

[FROGMAN524]

The EPA was created as a result of the Clean Air Act of 1970. CARB has been unnecessary since its inception. I appreciate that we don't have the smog we used to. I more appreciate that it was done with internal combustion technology, while making cars more powerful than they ever were. Modern day cars emit 98 percent less smog forming chemicals than they did in the 50's and 60's.

Considering that 50 percent of the electricity produced for use in California comes from burning natural gas and methane. And considering that new hydroelectric and/or nuclear power is basically off the table, going to an all electric fleet will have very little impact on air quality. I know the culture at CARB and they don't give a shit about the havoc they reek to gain a miniscule improvement in air quality.

Problem isn’t the cars there’s just too many fucking people in California

And the Smog in Phoenix gets worse every single year because there’s too many fucking people leaving California, Washington and Chicago and moving here.

The people who live in the inland empire, I’m not sure how they do it, because the fucking air looks like pea soup on a daily basis.

 

[Cdog]

I gotta hurry up with that 93/40/68 interchange in Kingman

Improvement projects galore set for I-40, US 93 in Arizona

2025 is shaping up to be a big year for improvement projects on the Interstate 40 and US 93 corridors in northwestern Arizona.

ktar.com

“I” as in u?

That was a puff piece. None of them are even talking about the big picture of the expansion due to CA over regulation. They were talking about carpentry construction & women in the industry when they should’ve been talking about infrastructure and distribution warehouses.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Problem isn’t the cars there’s just too many fucking people in California

And the Smog in Phoenix gets worse every single year because there’s too many fucking people leaving California, Washington and Chicago and moving here.

The people who live in the inland empire, I’m not sure how they do it, because the fucking air looks like pea soup on a daily basis.

We are doing fine. There is no problem in the IE.

 

[DWC]

The people who live in the inland empire, I’m not sure how they do it, because the fucking air looks like pea soup on a daily basis.

Can’t lie, it gets pretty bad in the summer.

 

[HBCraig]

You guys need to get rid of CARB.

I deal with Carb a lot on the mobile cranes I being in. I've heard from several customers that Carb might be on the chopping block

 

[boatnam2]

Recently on the news Elon Musk read off a list all of the ICE vehicles he owns in response to his enemy, mentally distressed, Socialist masquerading as an environmentalist Gretta Thunberg's public attack on him.
It was a comprehensive list from exotic Porches to all kind'a ICE cars.

A Google search only mentions two but Elon has quite a stable.
He's not stupid, he knows the USA is 30 years away from ever being EV ready outside of Tesla cars.

We bought an EV 3 years ago and the public charging situation since has only got worse. Crowded, broken, unreliable and nowhere near enough of them,, but worse of all expensive to charge on the road.

If anything, Elon will go after the wasted hundreds Billions of Federal money that in 4 years only produced 2 EV charging stations and no home internet hook ups.

This is typical:

My GF was just out charging her car, 4 different people walked up to look at screen while she sat there, last person knocked on window and asked if she planned on charging to 100% which she didn't but decided to do, ev people are a different breed.

 

[napanutt]

My GF was just out charging her car, 4 different people walked up to look at screen while she sat there, last person knocked on window and asked if she planned on charging to 100% which she didn't but decided to do, ev people are a different breed.

If people would just treat them like fancy golf carts and go from point A to B and charge at home instead of trying to do cross country trips every thing would be capiche.

 

[attitude]

If people would just treat them like fancy golf carts and go from point A to B and charge at home instead of trying to do cross country trips very thing would be capiche.

The traveling isn’t the main issue, it’s all the people who don’t/can’t have chargers at home.

 

[Taboma]

 

[Backlash]

I deal with Carb a lot on the mobile cranes I being in. I've heard from several customers that Carb might be on the chopping block

Do you have a link or more info?? This would be a HUGE defeat if it were to come true.

 

[TrollerDave]

Can’t lie, it gets pretty bad in the summer.

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Way better than it used to be. Late 80’s, early 90’s we couldn’t even see the mountains in the Inland Empire (I’m in Chino). We would have “half speed practice” for football on bad smog days. Your lungs would hurt after running when it was bad.

 

[lbhsbz]

If people would just treat them like fancy golf carts and go from point A to B and charge at home instead of trying to do cross country trips every thing would be capiche.

Everyone in apartments is stuck with street parking....no charging capability, obviously...so charging on the road is the only option.

 

[FROGMAN524]

My GF was just out charging her car, 4 different people walked up to look at screen while she sat there, last person knocked on window and asked if she planned on charging to 100% which she didn't but decided to do, ev people are a different breed.

Too be fair, people do that to me when I’m filling the Hallett from almost empty. At 150 gallons to be added, out of 175, and the pump cutting me off at the Sam’s club in bullhead at $150, sometimes I can swipe my card 5 times. It’s always funny when the guy behind me is in a Kia with a 9 gallon tank and he steps out to see what the problem is.