Tim McDonald

[LargeOrangeFont]

I am just irritated that there’s a plea being offered. But I really don’t know what kind of prison term he would get if he was convicted on all counts so maybe that would be a better deal anyway. My guess is the county is just trying to get over and done with it as cheaply as possible.

Exactly. They are just trying to move on to the next case now.

 

[boatpi]

Just wait for sentencing. I will give a typical example of justice;

If he was convicted of 4 various counts, most judges take mid term sentences, so say 5 years, then no prior theft or felony convictions, he may get 3-4. But of this judge knows he is the thief that we know he is, and considering all of the victims, and they ALL can provide a victim statement in a hearing, then he may just get max on this one charge, 4.5.

The judge can allow all of the victims in the dismissed cases to testify as to how this effected their lives. I would all jump in of I got ripped, so at the least write a letter to the court, note it is to be used during sentencing of Timmy.

BPI

 

[69 1/2]

Where is this case, still pending?

 

[beertruck]

pleased guilty on june 11th to one count, has not been sentenced yet

The Judge accepted the Plea, Ordered the Probation Department to complete a Pre-Sentence Investigation Report and set the Judgment and Sentencing Hearing on July 16, 2020 at 1:30 pm.

 

[rivermobster]

pleased guilty on june 11th to one count, has not been sentenced yet

The Judge accepted the Plea, Ordered the Probation Department to complete a Pre-Sentence Investigation Report and set the Judgment and Sentencing Hearing on July 16, 2020 at 1:30 pm.

Do we know what he pleaded guilty to?

 

[rrrr]

pleased guilty on june 11th to one count, has not been sentenced yet

The Judge accepted the Plea, Ordered the Probation Department to complete a Pre-Sentence Investigation Report and set the Judgment and Sentencing Hearing on July 16, 2020 at 1:30 pm.

Well that's just f#cking grand. One count? Didn't this start with dozens? You must be about to explode.

What really sucks is that the person who has your boat knows what's been going on, and has intentionally disguised it to prevent you from recovering it. I really believe that.

 

[Mandelon]

No Justice....

 

[riverroyal]

Someone needs to go george floyd on him

 

[Rajobigguy]

Tim did accept a plea deal which includes him paying $900000 in restitution. His minimum will be 4.5 yrs. probation with a maximum of 4.5 yrs. incarceration.
I know more but cant say anything about it at this time.

 

[crzy2bealive]

No Justice....

No justice no peace lol

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[69 1/2]

Tim did accept a plea deal which includes him paying $900000 in restitution. His minimum will be 4.5 yrs. probation with a maximum of 4.5 yrs. incarceration.
I know more but cant say anything about it at this time.

can he pay it?

 

[JayBreww]

He can but will he.


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[Looking Glass]

He can but will he.


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Really, How did you find this out?

 

[JFMFG]

pleased guilty on june 11th to one count, has not been sentenced yet

The Judge accepted the Plea, Ordered the Probation Department to complete a Pre-Sentence Investigation Report and set the Judgment and Sentencing Hearing on July 16, 2020 at 1:30 pm.

Wonder how this played out?

 

[Bobby V]

Wonder how this played out?

If you mean the judgement and sentencing, the court date is a month away.

 

[BajaT]

For all that expect him to sit in prison for a few years, with amount of money owed, non violent crime, and with the COVID-19, likely a term of probation with prison hanging over his head for significant non compliance. This is assuming prison is not stipulated in the plea agreement, which it likely is not. Plea agreement is public info. Someone go down to the Superior Court and get a copy!

 

[JFMFG]

If you mean the judgement and sentencing, the court date is a month away.

I should learn to read by month not date

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Seriously 1 count? What about the other 20?

 

[tunnel vision]

So is he sitting in jail waiting, not sure how it all works.

 

[mjc]

from todays paper

 

[HNL2LHC]

So it looks like the prosecutors just said well it is too difficult to do our jobs so we will just get what we can. The people that we wronged either had money or insurance so they are not hurting.

That is what happened when the punk was caught stealing $10k from our house. We will just prosecute for the $500. That is all that you are out and that is the business that the insurance company is in. They are used to loosing money.....

WTF???? That is why punks are sitting in C.H.O.P. and insurance rates get higher. ARGH......!@#$ @#$.....We need to get back to personal responsibility.

 

[was thatguy]

So it looks like the prosecutors just said well it is too difficult to do our jobs so we will just get what we can. The people that we wronged either had money or insurance so they are not hurting.

That is what happened when the punk was caught stealing $10k from our house. We will just prosecute for the $500. That is all that you are out and that is the business that the insurance company is in. They are used to loosing money.....

WTF???? That is why punks are sitting in C.H.O.P. and insurance rates get higher. ARGH......!@#$ @#$.....We need to get back to personal responsibility.

That’s what prosecutors do.
Plead out.

 

[Englewood]

I hate that I was right on this one...My original guess was that he'd do 1 year.

 

[LuauLounge]

Low level, may do that one year at home. Don’t want him sick on the Govt dime.

 

[JFMFG]

I hate that I was right on this one...My original guess was that he'd do 1 year.

Be lucky for him to do a day with prisons letting criminals out this is ridiculous

 

[boatpi]

Looks like he is going to cop out to 4 years Told u so.... Good work by DA

Fraud plea could get boat dealer 4 years in prison

A former Lake Havasu City business owner has signed a plea agreement that could put him in prison for as long as 4 1/2 years.

www.havasunews.com

 

[OLDRAAT]

Hopefully to a real prison, not a minimum security country club.

 

[mjc]

Looks like he is going to cop out to 4 years Told u so.... Good work by DA

Fraud plea could get boat dealer 4 years in prison

A former Lake Havasu City business owner has signed a plea agreement that could put him in prison for as long as 4 1/2 years.

www.havasunews.com

Key word is COULD

 

[JayBreww]

Really, How did you find this out?

Sorry, didn’t mean it that way.
More so sarcastically.


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[FreeBird236]

Key word is COULD

I'm thinking the judge knows the whole case and how he weaseled out of 95% of it, so maybe he gets a good portion of the time allowed on the single count, but who knows.

 

[Rajobigguy]

I'm thinking the judge knows the whole case and how he weaseled out of 95% of it, so maybe he gets a good portion of the time allowed on the single count, but who knows.

I believe that your on the right track.

 

[Taboma]

Looks like he is going to cop out to 4 years Told u so.... Good work by DA

Fraud plea could get boat dealer 4 years in prison

A former Lake Havasu City business owner has signed a plea agreement that could put him in prison for as long as 4 1/2 years.

www.havasunews.com

I certainly respect your knowledge and hands on experience in law enforcement, it's always obvious in your posts. But to be honest, I struggle to understand how this could be construed as good job by the Mohave County DA. From the complete layman's perspective, it appears to be the easy way out, the path of least resistance and effort.

On paper it seems they expended a lot of time collecting evidence, depositions, and testimony to collaborate far more than one felony count.
Yet when it came to convincing a jury, the defense attorney seems to have been the one that did a good job, not the prosecuting team. The defense was able to convince the jury that Tim was just an unfortunate victim himself and if anything was only guilty of being deficient in business and financial management.
The prosecution seems to be satisfied with less incarceration, because the plea included almost a million dollars in restitution.
What are the odds anybody will see a dime of that ?

I can't find one thing in this entire fiasco that suggests anything positive about our legal system.

Obviously I wasn't there, wasn't affected, just watching from the bleachers.

 

[rrrr]

In addition to the huge financial hit they experienced by having their boats stolen, all of his victims took time off from work and spent considerable amounts of money to show up at the trial and testify.

That alone should convince the court of the harm McDonald has inflicted on those people. If he doesn't get the maximum or close to it, it will clearly illustrate how effed up the judicial system is.

 

[beertruck]

I certainly respect your knowledge and hands on experience in law enforcement, it's always obvious in your posts. But to be honest, I struggle to understand how this could be construed as good job by the Mohave County DA. From the complete layman's perspective, it appears to be the easy way out, the path of least resistance and effort.

On paper it seems they expended a lot of time collecting evidence, depositions, and testimony to collaborate far more than one felony count.
Yet when it came to convincing a jury, the defense attorney seems to have been the one that did a good job, not the prosecuting team. The defense was able to convince the jury that Tim was just an unfortunate victim himself and if anything was only guilty of being deficient in business and financial management.
The prosecution seems to be satisfied with less incarceration, because the plea included almost a million dollars in restitution.
What are the odds anybody will see a dime of that ?

I can't find one thing in this entire fiasco that suggests anything positive about our legal system.

Obviously I wasn't there, wasn't affected, just watching from the bleachers.

Having sat thru a lot of the trial, and not only testifying, but hearing the testimony of 5-6 others, I can assure you the prosector did a nice job presenting the case, and the defense attorney seemed to do very poorly with his defenses to what I saw.
I was not there to witness Tim breaking down on the stand, but I heard that it did not sway the jury.

Unfortunately Tim was given the right to a trial of with a jury of one's peers, and two of these jurors where either clueless, or worse.
I believe the judge saw and was aware that Tim was guilty, so hopefully he takes that into consideration in sentencing.

I left there thinking it was a slam dunk case, and Tim would see some jail time. I was shocked when I heard the outcome.

 

[Taboma]

Having sat thru a lot of the trial, and not only testifying, but hearing the testimony of 5-6 others, I can assure you the prosector did a nice job presenting the case, and the defense attorney seemed to do very poorly with his defenses to what I saw.
I was not there to witness Tim breaking down on the stand, but I heard that it did not sway the jury.

Unfortunately Tim was given the right to a trial of with a jury of one's peers, and two of these jurors where either clueless, or worse.
I believe the judge saw and was aware that Tim was guilty, so hopefully he takes that into consideration in sentencing.

I left there thinking it was a slam dunk case, and Tim would see some jail time. I was shocked when I heard the outcome.

I appreciate your insight, sorry you were on the bad end of his dealings. More than anything, I hope you receive the monetary compensation you justly deserve.
I realize Tim in jail doesn't serve to compensate you or the others, but just maybe might prove a deterrence to other shady fucks.
Good Luck sir !!!

 

[lbhsbz]

I appreciate your insight, sorry you were on the bad end of his dealings. More than anything, I hope you receive the monetary compensation you justly deserve.
I realize Tim in jail doesn't serve to compensate you or the others, but just maybe might prove a deterrence to other shady fucks.
Good Luck sir !!!

It would certainly be a shame if the prison transport van were to break down somewhere in the middle of the desert with Tim inside....an even greater shame would be if all the guys he's wronged happened to be carpooling down the same road whilst returning from the sentencing hearing...That sure would be unfortunate

Edit: the only thing more unfortunate Would be if all those fireworks confiscated by LAPD happened to be in the same van (multitasking to save tax dollars) and there was a small fire (ford van...definitely probable) that caused the driver and guard to step away momentarily.

 

[rmarion]

Justice was NOT SERVED!!!!

How can people have no morals and ethics.

How dies that Bastard live with himself and sleep at night...

ROT in HELL...Timmy BOY

 

[DRYHEAT]

Having sat thru a lot of the trial, and not only testifying, but hearing the testimony of 5-6 others, I can assure you the prosector did a nice job presenting the case, and the defense attorney seemed to do very poorly with his defenses to what I saw.
I was not there to witness Tim breaking down on the stand, but I heard that it did not sway the jury.

Unfortunately Tim was given the right to a trial of with a jury of one's peers, and two of these jurors where either clueless, or worse.
I believe the judge saw and was aware that Tim was guilty, so hopefully he takes that into consideration in sentencing.

I left there thinking it was a slam dunk case, and Tim would see some jail time. I was shocked when I heard the outcome.

There was a sympathetic shyster businessman from Kingman on the jury who basically threw the whole thing out. He convinced a couple other jurors that that’s how you do business. It only takes one asshole to hang a jury.

 

[ssc]

And that is why it is so important to be on your A game regarding the Voir Dire process. Not sure how it is handled in Arizona. I learned a lot of tricks while clerking with the DA's office in LA.

Cheers, Steve

 

[rrrr]

And that is why it is so important to be on your A game regarding the Voir Dire process. Not sure how it is handled in Arizona. I learned a lot of tricks while clerking with the DA's office in LA.

Cheers, Steve

A friend of mine that works in corporate litigation and is a damn good attorney told me it's not juror selection that's important, it's juror deselection. You only get so many strikes, and you'd better use them wisely.