Thoughts on maverick R 4 seat vs 2025 normal 4 seater

[riverroyal]

We are starting to look
The new a R is 47k
The new XRC 4 seat is 36k.
Is the new R worth 11000 more?
Few things, I can pull about 12000 in accessories off my current RC over a weekend, put it right on a new RC.
The mav R could only use about 4000 in accessories, like lights and seats
So, at the end of the day the mav R will be 15000 to 20000 more.
The XRC platform is proven. 3500 miles and no real issues on current car.

Yes the R is faster. Better suspension, more electronic gadgets. Also huge. I'd need a longer wider trailer

This is a 100% desert use, no dunes.

 

[Singleton]

Just get a Speed and get the best

 

[riverroyal]

Oh crap. Now it's a speed thread. Now you did it

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Oh crap. Now it's a speed thread. Now you did it

Ya got a problem with that?

 

[Icky]

Following, I've been kicking around the idea of going to a sxs from my sandrail. My wife doesn't want to.

 

[riverroyal]

doesnt want to? How much work is the rail? the SxS will be much less. There is soooo much to see in SxS compared to dune rig. Ive seen the most beautiful country in my life while in a SxS.
Let me know if you need pics, she can be convinced pretty easy.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Problem I see if the mav r max is huge. Like almost too big for havasu. I would stick with the x3 max

 

[riverroyal]

Ian, that is my thought as well. I need a 4 seater, family is growing. It time for new car, getting another 2 seat wont be the best in a few years for us..
Please its a big savings. I just saw a video with a few new Max having lower A arm problems in the dunes. The G out forces are massive with a car that big

 

[Sportin' Wood]

The Morgan car at the desert bash looked like an Ultra4 car. That thing actually made me think for a moment about updating. Then I realized I don't need a race car.

 

[TPC]

Problem I see if the mav r max is huge. Like almost too big for havasu. I would stick with the x3 max

Our TH garage is 18’ not sure if it would fit with the few other necessities we roll with back there.
Some talk Polaris is in financial trouble so:
We’re sticking with the X3 Max for now.

 

[sandshark1]

The Mav R suspension works better than even tuned suspension on a X3. The car drives a lot better than the X3. There is zero steering feedback in the Maverick R. The car accelerates really fast.

 

[riverroyal]

The Mav R suspension works better than even tuned suspension on a X3. The car drives a lot better than the X3. There is zero steering feedback in the Maverick R. The car accelerates really fast.

But for 10k more right out the door.
I have 15000 in accessories I already have for the non R platform.
10k more plus.
5k in new audio
900 in spare tire and rack
500 in cooler
2000 in back seat and belts
300 in some type of windscreen
700 in storage bags.
That gets me rolling and is on top of what fits on the R that I'm bringing to it.

I have seats and belts for front. (1600)
Have baja light and sector 7 mirrors. (That's 3000)
Basically all that fits.

So the actual delta to new R vs new XRC is about 20k more.
Don't get me wrong. Id prefer the new R. I just think it's priced out the normal havasu off road guy.
Smiles per mile may never add up to 20000.

It possibly less if you look years ahead to resale of both. The R will have a higher percentage resale value.

 

[Bpracing1127]

But for 10k more right out the door.
I have 15000 in accessories I already have for the non R platform.
10k more plus.
5k in new audio
900 in spare tire and rack
500 in cooler
2000 in back seat and belts
300 in some type of windscreen
700 in storage bags.
That gets me rolling and is on top of what fits on the R that I'm bringing to it.

I have seats and belts for front. (1600)
Have baja light and sector 7 mirrors. (That's 3000)
Basically all that fits.

So the actual delta to new R vs new XRC is about 20k more.
Don't get me wrong. Id prefer the new R. I just think it's priced out the normal havasu off road guy.
Smiles per mile may never add up to 20000.

It possibly less if you look years ahead to resale of both. The R will have a higher percentage resale value.

Also the MAVr isn’t going to magically make the washboard go away too.

If it were me I would buy the x3 max 72” wide model and put 35” on it and move your parts over put stock parts back on yours and sell it.

MAVr 2 seat is badass also a big car. MAVr max is too big for havasu

 

[Bowtiepower00]

Are you going to wish you had the R everytime you use the car? If so, drop the extra coin. Seats, lighting, etc should be swappable with the appropriate mounts/ brackets. The X3 is a good car too, you’re going to spend a bunch either way. Get the car you want. If I were going with the X3 I would probably just find a lightly used one that’s already built, and maybe keep your current car, resale is awful- you could probably keep your current car and add a 4 seat X3 for the same overall cost of building a R.

 

[riverroyal]

Are you going to wish you had the R everytime you use the car? If so, drop the extra coin. Seats, lighting, etc should be swappable with the appropriate mounts/ brackets. The X3 is a good car too, you’re going to spend a bunch either way. Get the car you want. If I were going with the X3 I would probably just find a lightly used one that’s already built, and maybe keep your current car, resale is awful- you could probably keep your current car and add a 4 seat X3 for the same overall cost of building a R.

We talked about that also. Resale is bad bad right now.
I know the R is better. Just more expensive than most cars.

 

[JB in so cal]

 

[Racer56]

But for 10k more right out the door.
I have 15000 in accessories I already have for the non R platform.
10k more plus.
5k in new audio
900 in spare tire and rack
500 in cooler
2000 in back seat and belts
300 in some type of windscreen
700 in storage bags.
That gets me rolling and is on top of what fits on the R that I'm bringing to it.

I have seats and belts for front. (1600)
Have baja light and sector 7 mirrors. (That's 3000)
Basically all that fits.

So the actual delta to new R vs new XRC is about 20k more.
Don't get me wrong. Id prefer the new R. I just think it's priced out the normal havasu off road guy.
Smiles per mile may never add up to 20000.

It possibly less if you look years ahead to resale of both. The R will have a higher percentage resale value.

Buy a Mav R and don't put a $5,000.00 stereo in it.

 

[DLC]

Mav R max has a TON of extra DOOO - DADS !! Built in to the car

Tons of power, low Center of gravity, shift from hi to low on the fly while under 45 mph. Transmission is awesome!
Suspension is fantastic - although probably needs springs eventually

The x3 max is 164 over all - WB is 135
Mav r max is 175 OA - WB is 142


Our buddy Jim has a demo car and took it to sand Hallow over Turkey - He said it’s Very Impressive !!

You could probably meet him out in ocotillo wells & go for a ride

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Mav R max has a TON of extra DOOO - DADS !! Built in to the car

Tons of power, low Center of gravity, shift from hi to low on the fly while under 45 mph. Transmission is awesome!
Suspension is fantastic - although probably needs springs eventually

The x3 max is 164 over all - WB is 135
Mav r max is 175 OA - WB is 142


Our buddy Jim has a demo car and took it to sand Hallow over Turkey - He said it’s Very Impressive !!

You could probably meet him out in ocotillo wells & go for a ride

The actual measurements are important, I don't think you'd notice the extra 7" in WB or 11" overall when actually driving it. Especially with the new suspension design on the R, I have heard from folks that the 2 seat R feels more nimble than a 2 seat X3 since it has less body roll. I would assume that feeling carries over 4 seat vs 4 seat. For you going from 2 seat to 4 seat, both of those cars will feel huge. The biggest thing on the R is that transmission, even well tuned CVTs run out of steam near the top end and the rate of acceleration tapers off. The ability to grab another gear and be at peak boost/power whenever you want it is next level.

My perfect car is a hybrid of Speed cage, rear suspension design, and overall size with mav R front suspension and transmission, pro R engine and polaris ride command.

 

[Floaterboat]

But for 10k more right out the door.
I have 15000 in accessories I already have for the non R platform.
10k more plus.
5k in new audio
900 in spare tire and rack
500 in cooler
2000 in back seat and belts
300 in some type of windscreen
700 in storage bags.
That gets me rolling and is on top of what fits on the R that I'm bringing to it.

I have seats and belts for front. (1600)
Have baja light and sector 7 mirrors. (That's 3000)
Basically all that fits.

So the actual delta to new R vs new XRC is about 20k more.
Don't get me wrong. Id prefer the new R. I just think it's priced out the normal havasu off road guy.
Smiles per mile may never add up to 20000.

It possibly less if you look years ahead to resale of both. The R will have a higher percentage resale value.

If you aren’t driving over 60 through the rough stuff routinely you aren’t going to notice much difference between the 2. Unless you are looking for dick jewelry for your garage, it is not worth a $20k delta.

Resale - you are going to lose way more real dollars buying the Mav R. UTVs all depreciate like rocks. The more you spend the more you lose in the end.

If you are that worried about resale, you should be buying some garage queen car that’s barely used for $.60 on the dollar.

 

[Icky]

If you aren’t driving over 60 through the rough stuff routinely you aren’t going to notice much difference between the 2. Unless you are looking for dick jewelry for your garage, it is not worth a $20k delta.

Resale - you are going to lose way more real dollars buying the Mav R. UTVs all depreciate like rocks. The more you spend the more you lose in the end.

If you are that worried about resale, you should be buying some garage queen car that’s barely used for $.60 on the dollar.

I think a lot of people still owe quite a bit on some of these cars for sale, some of the prices they're listing them at

 

[sandshark1]

But for 10k more right out the door.
I have 15000 in accessories I already have for the non R platform.
10k more plus.
5k in new audio
900 in spare tire and rack
500 in cooler
2000 in back seat and belts
300 in some type of windscreen
700 in storage bags.
That gets me rolling and is on top of what fits on the R that I'm bringing to it.

I have seats and belts for front. (1600)
Have baja light and sector 7 mirrors. (That's 3000)
Basically all that fits.

So the actual delta to new R vs new XRC is about 20k more.
Don't get me wrong. Id prefer the new R. I just think it's priced out the normal havasu off road guy.
Smiles per mile may never add up to 20000.

It possibly less if you look years ahead to resale of both. The R will have a higher percentage resale value.

With a X3 your initial buy in is $10K less. However, you need a gusset kit for the front end, lower a-arms, shocks need to be sprung and valved, and radius rods. There goes part of the $10K you saved. You still need audio no matter the car.

The Mav R you don't need gusset kits, radius rods, or suspension arms. Suspension just needs springs for most owners.

I would bet you can work a deal on a Mav R as they are not flying out of the showroom right now. If you were getting a 2 seater, there are smoking deals on 2024 Mav Rs.

 

[riverroyal]

My current RC does not have gussets up front. The winch set up from can am added some metal, tying stuff together.
I did do springs at 2000 miles. Rods are all stock, no issues. I did replace A arm bushings, they went full oval
My current audio will go into a new R or x3. But I will likely add more to it.

All good points...lots of useful info so far

 

[02HoWaRd26]

To me as i sold my buggy for a sxs, is the simplicity and the fact the new modern suspension specially the live valve is just hard to beat. Not sure if the on R has that option but if not I’d have to go with the live valve.

 

[Bowtiepower00]

Eh, if you’re not running hard enough to need gussets and arms on your X3, a Mav R is going to be total overkill. I’d lean X3.

 

[sandshark1]

My current RC does not have gussets up front. The winch set up from can am added some metal, tying stuff together.
I did do springs at 2000 miles. Rods are all stock, no issues. I did replace A arm bushings, they went full oval
My current audio will go into a new R or x3. But I will likely add more to it.

All good points...lots of useful info so far

The bolt holes for the front suspension did not wallow out with your a-arm bushings? I take it you mostly cruise when you are out and about in the desert.

If you do end up with a Mav R I would recommend the smart shock model so you have adjustability of the shocks with a push of a button.

 

[sandshark1]

To me as i sold my buggy for a sxs, is the simplicity and the fact the new modern suspension specially the live valve is just hard to beat. Not sure if the on R has that option but if not I’d have to go with the live valve.

Mav R has a model with Smart Shocks which is their version of the live valve. I drove my friend's Mav R with the set up and was pleasantly surprised how well it worked. Not quite to the level of the Polaris Live Valve on the Pro, but certainly getting closer to it.

I had previously driven a Can Am X3 with the smart shocks and it was just okay. The Mav R version is leaps and bounds ahead of the X3 version.

 

[riverroyal]

The bolt holes for the front suspension did not wallow out with your a-arm bushings? I take it you mostly cruise when you are out and about in the desert.

If you do end up with a Mav R I would recommend the smart shock model so you have adjustability of the shocks with a push of a button.

Bolt holes looked fine. I dont cruise ever. Typical wash board is as fast as possible until my eyes blur.

 

[sandshark1]

Bolt holes looked fine. I dont cruise ever. Typical wash board is as fast as possible until my eyes blur.

The fun of washboards. LOL!

 

[jesco]

Bolt holes looked fine. I dont cruise ever. Typical wash board is as fast as possible until my eyes blur.

When they had the UTVWC in Havasu there was 2 washes you could RIP through, until you hit some really bad wash board sections (RZR wrinkles). We would be hauling ass through there and hit those areas and your vision would go blurry BAD!!! My CoDawg kept telling me "I think we are good, I cant see shit on the screen, its just a big blurry mess....if you can see keep going" I told him "I cant see shit, but Im not lifting... HOLD ON this could get nasty really quick!!!"

 

[TPC]

Following, I've been kicking around the idea of going to a sxs from my sandrail. My wife doesn't want to.

Consider renting a SxS in Moab or Sedona, it may demonstrate how versatile they are. Especially being street legal there.

 

[BRONCOBOY]

Went for a ride in a 2025 Mav R and your comfortable speed will increase 10 - 15 MPH through typical desert terrain. Steering feedback is still there without the bump steer. It seems to be next level, I like the idea of running a 35 inch tire without worry about the drivetrain, Tire sizes keep increasing and so do the woop size in the dez. Soon will be wanting 37 inch tires!

 

[TPC]

If I were walking in off the Street not owning anything the Mav R 4 seat would be my first choice by a long shot. The X3 RR RS MAX is almost half the price if you shop around for a really good machine.

I priced Mav R 4 seats last month quotes were all around $52K.
That's a big drink of water and huge difference.