This is not a political poll

[FROGMAN524]

Are America’s best times ahead of us or behind us?

 

[Wizard29]

If history is any indicator, probably behind us but I'd say it depends heavily on who wins in November. There might be hope if there are still enough people who don't have their heads up their asses.

 

[shintoooo]

I think it depends on when you were born and your perspective on life. I’m going to make sure the best times are ahead for me and my family. The past is the past.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Still ahead. It'll get ugly, regardless of who wins in November. It won't be quick, some rough times ahead first, but the cycle will continue. As we've recovered from the bad chapters in our history, we've always become better for it. 2 steps forward, 1 step back...but ever forward.

 

[BajaT]

Depends if you receive handouts or pay for them?

 

[Big B Hova]

When do I get reperations?

 

[EmpirE231]

4th turning. It’ll get a lot worse before it gets better. Coming from a war torn country as a child, people will still make the best of it while missile strikes hit blocks away, we still celebrated our birthdays . Doesn’t necessarily mean better times, but we’ll make the best of it.

 

[rivermobster]

Not sure if I want to go back to covered wagons and taking a shit in a hole in the ground...

Id have to say "ahead".

The DEI shit is rapidly coming to an end. The pendulum is starting to swing the other way.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Not sure if I want to go back to covered wagons and taking a shit in a hole in the ground...

Tell me, why is it people like you like to go camping?

 

[rivermobster]

Tell me, why is it people like you like to go camping?

 

[dezertrider]

The 90's, I miss the 90's. Its not going to get much better then that for me

 

[FROGMAN524]

4th turning. It’ll get a lot worse before it gets better. Coming from a war torn country as a child, people will still make the best of it while missile strikes hit blocks away, we still celebrated our birthdays . Doesn’t necessarily mean better times, but we’ll make the best of it.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

 

[CLdrinker]

We are raising to many pussies for us to ever be a bunch of bad asses like the guys that built shit with their own hands back in the day.

 

[RiverDave]

Kind of makes you wonder when they were singing that way back when doesn’t it?

 

[C-Ya]

I think A.I. will have a bigger impact on the population than the inventing of the internal combustion engine.

The question is……… Will A.I. improve our lives, or will it be our downfall?

 

[RiverDave]

America took a left turn in 1913 with the creation of the fed, and from there forward the increased and unchecked powers of the federal government have run amuck..

There is no possible way to get out of the debt and even if we do our dollar is worth shit now so the only option is global conflict.

They should not be able to print money and spend money and tax us to fucking death for shit we don’t want or need. America was originally setup to be small individual countries (states) that were united under the common cause of basic principles and common defense.. not necessarily uniformity across the board.

The entirety of spending across the board needs to be audited.. welfare needs to be recalled entirely and revamped. If you want money you can do something for the community..

Politicians as a whole that are out performing even the best investment groups by a margins of 500%.. no investigation needed just hang them in the streets.

As much as I am for freedom I believe a mandatory 1-2 year in the service to build national
Pride and take useless people and make them useful would be warranted at this point.

For even one of those things to happen I believe we goto civil war.

RD

 

[Done-it-again]

We are raising to many pussies for us to ever be a bunch of bad asses like the guys that built shit with their own hands back in the day.

Isn't that what the gov. wants? so no one can standup for themselves against the gov.... I believe there is something in the food we eat, that lowers men's T so they are complacent.

 

[Desert Whaler]

Being very close with my 92 year old Dad and all he's been through . . . I can say without a doubt the best times are 100% behind us and unlikely to return . . . at least in our lifetimes.
Overall 'modern technology', in my opinion, hasn't helped mankind vs what has been lost over the decades. (Values come to mind for starters).

Unless man learns to 'supplement' and balance life with technology, rather than depend and rely on it, I think we'll continue to see a downward degradation of society.

 

[Your ad here]

It's hard to win on this. Better times are ahead as in technology to get stuff done but it comes at the cost of things becoming more complicated.

 

[Your ad here]

Being very close with my 92 year old Dad and all he's been through . . . I can say without a doubt the best times are 100% behind us and unlikely to return . . . at least in our lifetimes.
Overall 'modern technology', in my opinion, hasn't helped mankind vs what has been lost over the decades. (Values come to mind for starters).

Unless man learns to 'supplement' and balance life with technology, rather than depend and rely on it, I think we'll continue to see a downward degradation of society.

Has your dad ever said he feels his era had the best childhood but he would never want to live it again?

 

[was thatguy]

Define “best times”?
Not a single response has addressed the global political, social, economic etc environment.
This isn’t the same planet as in the past…recent or long ago.
It is impossible to day dream about “returning” to some make believe idyllic existence.
In fact, it’s a waste of precious time.
The world is small.
Debating about turning this United States luxury liner around by fixing our government is comical at best.
It isn’t even about an internal redirect.
So if one wants to imagine a “best time” in the future, one had better be able to picture a United States much different than the one we are sitting in.
We are fat, we are lazy EXCEPT if our efforts advance our own personal wealth. We complain about stupid shit, we hoard guns and ammo thinking this will help somehow,

My question is this:
“what and whom is the primary influences ruining this republic in your opinion?”
Because if we can’t identify that, and agree on what a REALISTIC vision of the future United States looks like, well, we’re really just spinning our wheels.

I do believe this though, the second this nation engages in anything close to any sort of all out internal “civil” war will be the same day the “Global whatever” takes over.
In collusion with our so called government of course.

Oh, have we hit $40,000,000,000,000.00 in debt yet?

 

[Desert Whaler]

Has your dad ever said he feels his era had the best childhood but he would never want to live it again?

No he hasn’t. He had a very tough childhood. Last year of formal school was 7th grade …. Bounced around between divorced parents, and in & out of boys schools / military schools etc. He worked full time since he was that age. But , he became strong, resourceful and was able to provide with what he worked for, and w/o education or parents. Enlisted in the Army for Korea, came back, met my Mom, had 3 kids & was able to enjoy life by simply working hard.
I just think there were just so many more opportunities back then. And life itself seemed a lot more simple as well.
Just my opinion.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Kind of makes you wonder when they were singing that way back when doesn’t it?

I've not answered the poll because I can't identify a benchmark. Each time I try, I can disprove my opinion about when times were/are the best. That song is one of my favorite, because if the listener pays attention Merle introduces the question at the end.

I have to wonder if times in the USA have not been the best they have ever been in the last decade? How do we measure? There seems a lot of different lenses in which we can view Good Times.

Ironically I laid in bed this morning asking myself, If I would rather be poor and young, or rich and old? By the time I finished my coffee I was asking myself if I was 10 years younger would that be better than living ten years longer?

We all want what we don't have, I'm trying to figure out how to make every day the Good Times, it is not an easy task.

Angie did a paper on this subject years ago when she was in the University. It was something to with the Movie PleasantVille. I don't recall the details, maybe because I was the subject. LOL

 

[bonesfab]

America took a left turn in 1913 with the creation of the fed, and from there forward the increased and unchecked powers of the federal government have run amuck..

There is no possible way to get out of the debt and even if we do our dollar is worth shit now so the only option is global conflict.

They should not be able to print money and spend money and tax us to fucking death for shit we don’t want or need. America was originally setup to be small individual countries (states) that were united under the common cause of basic principles and common defense.. not necessarily uniformity across the board.

The entirety of spending across the board needs to be audited.. welfare needs to be recalled entirely and revamped. If you want money you can do something for the community..

Politicians as a whole that are out performing even the best investment groups by a margins of 500%.. no investigation needed just hang them in the streets.

As much as I am for freedom I believe a mandatory 1-2 year in the service to build national
Pride and take useless people and make them useful would be warranted at this point.

For even one of those things to happen I believe we goto civil war.

RD

Hell with Mayor of Havasu, Riverdave for President.

 

[oldschool]

Yes

 

[RiverDave]

I've not answered the poll because I can't identify a benchmark. Each time I try, I can disprove my opinion about when times were/are the best. That song is one of my favorite, because if the listener pays attention Merle introduces the question at the end.

I have to wonder if times in the USA have not been the best they have ever been in the last decade? How do we measure? There seems a lot of different lenses in which we can view Good Times.

Ironically I laid in bed this morning asking myself, If I would rather be poor and young, or rich and old? By the time I finished my coffee I was asking myself if I was 10 years younger would that be better than living ten years longer?

We all want what we don't have, I'm trying to figure out how to make every day the Good Times, it is not an easy task.

Angie did a paper on this subject years ago when she was in the University. It was something to with the Movie PleasantVille. I don't recall the details, maybe because I was the subject. LOL

There is only one metric that matters.. Freedom.

Prosperity, technology, and any other metric is irrelevant if you don't have the first of Freedom.

RD

 

[MOUZER]

i feel really bad for my kids and grandkids

 

[was thatguy]

i feel really bad for my kids and grandkids

I hear that a lot, and for the life of me I can’t figure out why?
Honest question.
Why do people feel bad for their kids and grandkids?
Is it because they don’t know our world?
Not a single one of us grew up in our dads or grandads world…and I can state with absolute certainty that my dad did NOT feel sorry for me!
Well, besides maybe feeling bad for me because I was a “dumb shit” according to him!
(His way of saying “I love you son”)

But seriously, I don’t get that?
I have 4 adult children, 5 grandkids, 3 step grandkids.
None of them feel like they got a shitty deal not being me.

 

[MOUZER]

yah i get that...........

 

[was thatguy]

yah i get that...........

So why do you feel bad for them?
I mean, we all want good things for our kids, but their world is their world.
And our world wasn’t always as good as we remember.
Our time was as plagued with bad shit as their time is…it just looks different.
They like 4 cylinder tuner cars…we had big blocks and blowers.
They’ll be fine, one way or another.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Seeing Dave mention the one metric as being "freedom" is a bit interesting. By the turn of the last century, I'd almost say we'd lost much of that. As the west was tamed, what we deemed "civilization" grew into our current state of governance. With that, it brought with it less freedom, and more illusion of freedom. We pay taxes on items taxed, and then pay taxes on our own deaths in some cases. We have "free" elections, but every elected official seems to have an owner...and that owner is not the populace.

AI, true, real AI, not what is currently touted as such, will see the flaws in mankind's thoughts and greed. When it does, it may deem us a threat. Not only to it's existence, but to the world as an organism. Then what? Does it try to save us from ourselves, or spur us to extinction? I don't know if I'll live to see it, but who knows.

As for feeling bad for my offspring, had to take a better look at that. I guess it's not so much feeling bad, as worried for them? Every generation has new problems to deal with. As my generation ages, the younger ones will have less of the problems mine had, but new ones I have no understanding of. They won't understand mine, as I didn't my forefathers'. I think it's the unknown that leads me to worry for my kids though. The future is nothing more than a variable, to them as well as myself.

 

[stephenkatsea]

Speaking of the Mayor of Havasu, anyone know if the guy running for office in Montana is related to Mayor Sheehy. Not a very common name.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

There is only one metric that matters.. Freedom.

Prosperity, technology, and any other metric is irrelevant if you don't have the first of Freedom.

RD

I'm not attempting to be disagreeable, but I want to explore this as a qualifier. Specifically Freedom as what determines the path as better or worse. I think partially because I need to convince myself of the direction.


I can think of no other country in which a poor kid can use imagination and Grit to change the course of a legacy, but equally laziness and arrogance can erase future generations standing. Your name can go from zero-hero and back to zero in three generations or less. That has been the case for the last 248 years in the USA. Some folks even can do it in a single lifetime.

free·dom
/ˈfrēdəm/
noun
noun: freedom

The power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.

Absence of subjection to foreign domination or despotic government.

The state of not being imprisoned or enslaved.

"Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose." Kris Kristofferson

There have been times in my life when I have been more free and less free depending on the jobs I've held, debt, and the state I live in. I'm more free today in regards to civil liberty because of the state I live in, but less free because I agree to trade that in exchange for an attractive salary. Trust me it's a dichotomy that I struggle with daily. I'm a slave to my job, that does not provide me total freedom, but I'm willing trade it in the hopes that my future will be better. At some point you realize the value of every day you are alive and come to terms that the trade is not good.

A Better America, or Worse America looks vastly different based on perspectives. I can't quantify what makes America better or worse on a macro level, because I'm selfish and don't really care about the rest of the citizens perspective. I care about myself and my family and politics don't really matter when I strip it all away. The most free I can be is a two hour drive off grid to a free and clear piece of land with no zoning, no services and no neighbors, but I still gotta make enough money to pay property tax, so total freedom is unattainable. I would also be a slave to survival, with no luxury items or recreation. But mostly free. Does that make my America better?

Some may argue things are better today because they get to vote, or they have good health care, or technology, or they can love who they want. Maybe because they have the internet and unlimited access to knowledge, maybe it is as simple as having clean water?

This is a tough question asked about is America headed toward better or worse? I think we make our own future, America allows that.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Speaking of the Mayor of Havasu, anyone know if the guy running for office in Montana is related to Mayor Sheehy. Not a very common name.

Who was Tim Sheehy before he started running for Senate?

Tim Sheehy’s youth, from a Minnesota lake house to the Navy SEALs.

montanafreepress.org

 

[TonyFanelli]

Being very close with my 92 year old Dad and all he's been through . . . I can say without a doubt the best times are 100% behind us and unlikely to return . . . at least in our lifetimes.
Overall 'modern technology', in my opinion, hasn't helped mankind vs what has been lost over the decades. (Values come to mind for starters).

Unless man learns to 'supplement' and balance life with technology, rather than depend and rely on it, I think we'll continue to see a downward degradation of society.

I.E....cellphones!

 

[Gelcoater]

I hear that a lot, and for the life of me I can’t figure out why?
Honest question.
Why do people feel bad for their kids and grandkids?
Is it because they don’t know our world?
Not a single one of us grew up in our dads or grandads world…and I can state with absolute certainty that my dad did NOT feel sorry for me!
Well, besides maybe feeling bad for me because I was a “dumb shit” according to him!
(His way of saying “I love you son”)

But seriously, I don’t get that?
I have 4 adult children, 5 grandkids, 3 step grandkids.
None of them feel like they got a shitty deal not being me.

It’s not that they don’t know our world, they do. They’re living in it.
What the world has become is why I feel sorry for my kids, and others kids.
There’s simple freedom, politics, morals, the decline in the value of the dollar, rabid pedos stealing children, etc which have all digressed to pure shit.

Remember when kids played outside?
Why don’t they do that anymore?
Some would blame electronic devises but those have only added to to the problem.
Kids don’t go out anymore because

little Johnny down the street disappeared a couple years ago and little Sally was abducted a year later.

This was never a thing in the 70s that I recall? Not saying never happened back then but nothing like today.

A generation of pussies who were never told no and never got a spank when they deserved one have since raised another generation of pussies. Who are worse than their parents as far as morals, work ethic, no motivation to succeed, afraid of manual labor and feel someone owes them something.

Education, or the lack there of it seems. Young people today are morons, and have very little in their heads.
No need to learn, just ask Siri or Alexa.
Most think socialism is a good idea.


. The value of the dollar is in the toilet.
30 years ago 130k would buy you a decent house in a decent neighborhood.
Today that same house is going for 650.

25 years before that a decent house was 30-40k now it’s worth over a Mil.
My 24 year old is facing the reality she will probably have a very hard time buying a home.

In 85/86 my history teacher told us we were all middle class. And in our life time we would see a drastic decline of this class leaving only the rich, and the poor.
It seems he was right on as we are seeing it now.

I’m glad I lived when I did. On a bicycle all day long, drank from the hose, a thrifty ice cream cone was 15 cents, a revel model car was a couple dollars and they would sell me plastic model glue and testors paint without an adult being present.
You could sock a bully in the face for being a bully and not be in more trouble than the little shit bird that started it.
Thieves and crooks went to jail rather than being protected by some douchebag DA.

So yeah. I feel bad for kids today.

 

[regor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1839031174926315692

The ADMISSION of a weaponized DOJ tells me we're headed for worse off.

The push for digital currency in order to control the masses, tells me we're headed for worse off.

The push for more censorship, tells me we're headed for worse off.

BUT, the awakening of the masses in regards to the corruption that is our government, tells me we're headed for better off.

Either way, buckle up!!!

 

[Wizard29]

It’s not that they don’t know our world, they do. They’re living in it.
What the world has become is why I feel sorry for my kids, and others kids.
There’s simple freedom, politics, morals, the decline in the value of the dollar, rabid pedos stealing children, etc which have all digressed to pure shit.

Remember when kids played outside?
Why don’t they do that anymore?
Some would blame electronic devises but those have only added to to the problem.
Kids don’t go out anymore because

little Johnny down the street disappeared a couple years ago and little Sally was abducted a year later.

This was never a thing in the 70s that I recall? Not saying never happened back then but nothing like today.

A generation of pussies who were never told no and never got a spank when they deserved one have since raised another generation of pussies. Who are worse than their parents as far as morals, work ethic, no motivation to succeed, afraid of manual labor and feel someone owes them something.

Education, or the lack there of it seems. Young people today are morons, and have very little in their heads.
No need to learn, just ask Siri or Alexa.
Most think socialism is a good idea.


. The value of the dollar is in the toilet.
30 years ago 130k would buy you a decent house in a decent neighborhood.
Today that same house is going for 650.

25 years before that a decent house was 30-40k now it’s worth over a Mil.
My 24 year old is facing the reality she will probably have a very hard time buying a home.

In 85/86 my history teacher told us we were all middle class. And in our life time we would see a drastic decline of this class leaving only the rich, and the poor.
It seems he was right on as we are seeing it now.

I’m glad I lived when I did. On a bicycle all day long, drank from the hose, a thrifty ice cream cone was 15 cents, a revel model car was a couple dollars and they would sell me plastic model glue and testors paint without an adult being present.
You could sock a bully in the face for being a bully and not be in more trouble than the little shit bird that started it.
Thieves and crooks went to jail rather than being protected by some douchebag DA.

So yeah. I feel bad for kids today.

Well said and to add to that...

I don't have kids, but my wife has her niece and nephew, which I guess are mine too via marriage. A couple of blue-eyed white kids. I feel bad for them with all of the DEI bullshit going on. What career opportunities are they going to have and how much more qualified will they have to be than a member of some "marginalized" group just to get a decent job?

 

[Sportin' Wood]

My question is this:
“what and whom is the primary influences ruining this republic in your opinion?”
Because if we can’t identify that, and agree on what a REALISTIC vision of the future United States looks like, well, we’re really just spinning our wheels.

I'm going to give this a crack, knowing I'm not qualified to answer and emotion drives my response. But Phawk it.

Corporations.

Not the plumber who has an S-corp and runs his small business on a cash basis. The Soulless publicly traded monsters we've given birth to over the last 248 years and their grandfathers like the Hudson Bay Company long before we were a twinkle in their royal eyes.

We Americans just happen to be lucky enough to be born in the right place or had enough ambition to find a way here. Be grateful.

The only solution wipes out the majority of the earths population. Then we start all over. Humans are an infection. The game is uglier than most want to accept, but you play it, or it plays you. Politicians are a tool; not the Craftsman. Cut off the head and three more grow to replace it.

We should stop for a second and appreciate that we live in America right now and not someplace like Somalia. Best case we keep spinning our wheels. Aspirations of fighting yourself is stupid. yes there are times I say fuck it, let's box, but I know I'm being dumb and emotional. I don't really care if a man wants to play woman, whatever, who cares. God will figure that out, not me. Seriously, half the shit on the news means nothing, it is complete Bull Shit. Most of it has nothing to do with me.

Civil war is the end of everything you know and love. We stepped in the way of the Plandemic. it was not effective enough in controlling the population. So War rode in. Hopefully that horsemen does not turn his eye our direction.

We don't get to go backward, only march on. We don't need or want a civil war, maybe just a guy who lives in a plywood shack.

 

[lakemadness]

A lot of negative fuckers on here.

Maybe the future is complicated, but it will be better than the past for numerous reasons, especially outside of politics.

 

[was thatguy]

It’s not that they don’t know our world, they do. They’re living in it.
What the world has become is why I feel sorry for my kids, and others kids.
There’s simple freedom, politics, morals, the decline in the value of the dollar, rabid pedos stealing children, etc which have all digressed to pure shit.

Remember when kids played outside?
Why don’t they do that anymore?
Some would blame electronic devises but those have only added to to the problem.
Kids don’t go out anymore because

little Johnny down the street disappeared a couple years ago and little Sally was abducted a year later.

This was never a thing in the 70s that I recall? Not saying never happened back then but nothing like today.

A generation of pussies who were never told no and never got a spank when they deserved one have since raised another generation of pussies. Who are worse than their parents as far as morals, work ethic, no motivation to succeed, afraid of manual labor and feel someone owes them something.

Education, or the lack there of it seems. Young people today are morons, and have very little in their heads.
No need to learn, just ask Siri or Alexa.
Most think socialism is a good idea.


. The value of the dollar is in the toilet.
30 years ago 130k would buy you a decent house in a decent neighborhood.
Today that same house is going for 650.

25 years before that a decent house was 30-40k now it’s worth over a Mil.
My 24 year old is facing the reality she will probably have a very hard time buying a home.

In 85/86 my history teacher told us we were all middle class. And in our life time we would see a drastic decline of this class leaving only the rich, and the poor.
It seems he was right on as we are seeing it now.

I’m glad I lived when I did. On a bicycle all day long, drank from the hose, a thrifty ice cream cone was 15 cents, a revel model car was a couple dollars and they would sell me plastic model glue and testors paint without an adult being present.
You could sock a bully in the face for being a bully and not be in more trouble than the little shit bird that started it.
Thieves and crooks went to jail rather than being protected by some douchebag DA.

So yeah. I feel bad for kids today.

That’s sort of my point.
They don’t know any different than what they’ve lived.
I did all those things too, just like you.
Today you can’t really even drink hose water, if you could even find a spigot that isn’t behind a privacy wall.
We’d spend all day on our bicycles. Seriously, Dawn to dusk.
We can lament all the changes in our lifetimes, but I contend that it bothers us more than it bothers the kids.

 

[Gelcoater]

That’s sort of my point.
They don’t know any different than what they’ve lived.
I did all those things too, just like you.
Today you can’t really even drink hose water, if you could even find a spigot that isn’t behind a privacy wall.
We’d spend all day on our bicycles. Seriously, Dawn to dusk.
We can lament all the changes in our lifetimes, but I contend that it bothers us more than it bothers the kids.

I suppose they don’t feel they lost something they never knew, I could agree there.
The word freedom again comes to my mind.
We had more.
They can’t miss what they didn’t have and never knew.

The plastic disposable world they and we are living in is disgusting.

Just get a new one....

Gone are the days of something being made to last.

Be it a sewing machine (another lost art, except the poor souls working on a Chinese sweat shop) cars, tools, etc.
They call it progress, but is it really?

Guarantee in 100 years from now people won’t be getting a boner to find a 2014 Prius in a barn
And if there’s a 1966 VW Bug sitting right next to it no one will have a clue how to get it running, or even find gasoline

 

[Jefftowz]

America took a left turn in 1913 with the creation of the fed, and from there forward the increased and unchecked powers of the federal government have run amuck..

There is no possible way to get out of the debt and even if we do our dollar is worth shit now so the only option is global conflict.

They should not be able to print money and spend money and tax us to fucking death for shit we don’t want or need. America was originally setup to be small individual countries (states) that were united under the common cause of basic principles and common defense.. not necessarily uniformity across the board.

The entirety of spending across the board needs to be audited.. welfare needs to be recalled entirely and revamped. If you want money you can do something for the community..

Politicians as a whole that are out performing even the best investment groups by a margins of 500%.. no investigation needed just hang them in the streets.

As much as I am for freedom I believe a mandatory 1-2 year in the service to build national
Pride and take useless people and make them useful would be warranted at this point.

For even one of those things to happen I believe we goto civil war.

RD

I have asked many friends " What would Civil War look like " today?

 

[was thatguy]

I'm going to give this a crack, knowing I'm not qualified to answer and emotion drives my response. But Phawk it.

Corporations.

Not the plumber who has an S-corp and runs his small business on a cash basis. The Soulless publicly traded monsters we've given birth to over the last 248 years and their grandfathers like the Hudson Bay Company long before we were a twinkle in their royal eyes.

We Americans just happen to be lucky enough to be born in the right place or had enough ambition to find a way here. Be grateful.

The only solution wipes out the majority of the earths population. Then we start all over. Humans are an infection. The game is uglier than most want to accept, but you play it, or it plays you. Politicians are a tool; not the Craftsman. Cut off the head and three more grow to replace it.

We should stop for a second and appreciate that we live in America right now and not someplace like Somalia. Best case we keep spinning our wheels. Aspirations of fighting yourself is stupid. yes there are times I say fuck it, let's box, but I know I'm being dumb and emotional. I don't really care if a man wants to play woman, whatever, who cares. God will figure that out, not me. Seriously, half the shit on the news means nothing, it is complete Bull Shit. Most of it has nothing to do with me.

Civil war is the end of everything you know and love. We stepped in the way of the Plandemic. it was not effective enough in controlling the population. So War rode in. Hopefully that horsemen does not turn his eye our direction.

We don't get to go backward, only march on. We don't need or want a civil war, maybe just a guy who lives in a plywood shack.

All good points.
There is no wrong answer, it was an honest question.
Imo there are global influences that have far more impact on our country than we imagine in these scenarios.
I picture the US on a world map…with red arrows pointing in at us from the entire world.
Since our inception a mere several lifespans ago, we have fought and warred globally and internally.
From bow and arrows to muskets to ICBM’s.
This is what is overlooked in our discussions. Imo
There is no internal fix.
Our government is intertwined with global politics, power, economies, currency, and more importantly the funding of vast energy, utility, and infrastructure.
We, as American citizens, do not get to decide 100% how our country runs.
And if we try, the world will plunge into global war for real…that’s a no winner scenario
I don’t have the answers.
But I know that idealism, wishful thinking, and pretending it isn’t real may lead to a good nights sleep, but it doesn’t fix anything.
So I think “better” days can very much lie ahead, but maybe not quite the way we individually picture them?

 

[Romans9]

Some of you need to turn off all media and go explore the entire country. Actually meet locals in small town flyover USA, you know states that are seldom in the news.

When the Ruling Class Elite Progressive Commie Fucktards finally push far enough there will be hell to pay and there are plenty enough people willing to go collect.
Right now we don’t have an actual leader nor do we have an easily identifiable target. Most are still to fat and happy trying to live life.
Desperate people do unfathomable things. History can easily prove that.

I can’t believe what a false narrative some of the posts display.

 

[regor]

Trending ahead of us...........

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1839073020469473686

 

[stephenkatsea]

Who was Tim Sheehy before he started running for Senate?

Tim Sheehy’s youth, from a Minnesota lake house to the Navy SEALs.

montanafreepress.org

Nice article. I scanned it. Sounds like a good guy. But, unless I missed it, I still don’t know if he’s related to Cal Sheehy of LHC.

 

[stephenkatsea]

Who was Tim Sheehy before he started running for Senate?

Tim Sheehy’s youth, from a Minnesota lake house to the Navy SEALs.

montanafreepress.org

Nice article. I scanned it. Sounds like a good guy. But, unless I missed it, I still don’t know if he’s related to Cal Sherry of LHC

 

[monkeyswrench]

Some of you need to turn off all media and go explore the entire country. Actually meet locals in small town flyover USA, you know states that are seldom in the news.

When the Ruling Class Elite Progressive Commie Fucktards finally push far enough there will be hell to pay and there are plenty enough people willing to go collect.
Right now we don’t have an actual leader nor do we have an easily identifiable target. Most are still to fat and happy trying to live life.
Desperate people do unfathomable things. History can easily prove that.

I can’t believe what a false narrative some of the posts display.

When I was driving for car shows and for old car stuff, I drove a lot of 2 lane through towns with combination gas stations, diners and post offices. Fields as far as you could see, and occasional silos. Growing up in SoCal, it was a shock. People were nice, asked what I was hauling out of curiosity, not to mark the load. That's the America I wish everyone could see...not just the coasts and the people on the news.

I'd also always wanted to see other countries. Not just the big capitals, and tourist things, their version of the backwoods or redneck types. The people on the TV probably don't represent their country either.