Thief Hunting

[Cdog]

Both. Mostly unlocked. Same with the houses and garages doors unlocked. He probably checks 500 handles a night. Few videos he sees something good and smashes the window. Several vehicles the doors were jimmied open.

If unlocked the Sheriff tells them no crime was committed. But my officer neighbor says they could cite him for criminal trespass. He says it's better if he goes into an occupied home and gets caught. Unoccupied they won't do anything.

Sounds like you have a source for intel on the guy.

Collect and be ready

It's hard to steal with broken hands. It's tough to ride a bike with a broken femur.

 

[Taboma]

Both. Mostly unlocked. Same with the houses and garages doors unlocked. He probably checks 500 handles a night. Few videos he sees something good and smashes the window. Several vehicles the doors were jimmied open.

If unlocked the Sheriff tells them no crime was committed. But my officer neighbor says they could cite him for criminal trespass. He says it's better if he goes into a occupied home and gets caught. Unoccupied they won't do anything.

Seems a few of those LEO comments being on record (As being recorded), along with a decent collaboration of victims, along with a summary of reported thefts, would be a topic a local broadcast news network would be interested in airing. These are the types of local stories that can negatively impact local re-election efforts and can motivate various departments to direction appropriate attention.

 

[NicPaus]

I think the post yesterday on the Lomita page about starting a posse. Lit the fire under them. There has been hundreds of posts for 6 months about it. But all the responses of residents taking matters into there own hands probably motivated them.

They have been getting bombarded with calls and reports. And they could only lie to us so long that they have received none. When i called they straight told me it's the first we have heard of this and there has been no reports. At that point they had probably been tagged 100 times on different videos of him in the act.

 

[lbhsbz]

Both. Mostly unlocked. Same with the houses and garages doors unlocked. He probably checks 500 handles a night. Few videos he sees something good and smashes the window. Several vehicles the doors were jimmied open.

If unlocked the Sheriff tells them no crime was committed. But my officer neighbor says they could cite him for criminal trespass. He says it's better if he goes into a occupied home and gets caught. Unoccupied they won't do anything.

I was told the same thing.

 

[LazyLavey]

. Local sheriff could care less.

After all... It is known as "SLOWmita". lol

Maybe that Ebike will have an unfortunate accident

 

[RiverDave]

Says a lot about your local law enforcement.. to me they are worse than the guy.


As far as the guy.. leave your phone at home.. or if you do catch up with the guy at a minimum turn it the fuck off.. then go get another one immediately. Not sure how new your truck is but if it’s newer ya might consider driving an older vehicle in the fleet for the mission.

I don’t think I’d go hunt him down though if it were me.. I’d bait him and let him come to a controlled situation if it was me. (That doesn’t mean your or someone else’s residence)

RD

 

[lbhsbz]

Seems the only way for anyone in LE to take you seriously is to put together your own team (posse) with significantly more manpower than they have on the street at any given time and tell them that they need to solve it or your team will.

Lol...call yourselves the "The A Team". You'll need a big black dude and a van

 

[Todd Mohr]

Drive him up to the hills, tie him to a tree naked and let nature do what nature does, use Dave's advice on the phone and vehicle.

 

[NicPaus]

Seems the only way for anyone in LE to take you seriously is to put together your own team (posse) with significantly more manpower than they have on the street at any given time and tell them that they need to solve it or your team will.

Lol...call yourselves the "The A Team". You'll need a big black dude and a van

Haha. I was mobbing my van. Already chased him in 2 of my trucks. Got the hvac zip ties on hand. Last few nights there was 5 citizens on the hunt. Clearly outnumbered the Sheriff.

 

[Todd Mohr]

Sometimes animals need to be rehomed, like a snake in my yard or an american in Iraq. Sometimes the rehoming results in death, some animals get to places they they don't belong.

 

[Buddy]

30 yrs ago in F Lauderdale every winter the Gypsies would show up and rob every shop in the industrial area behind Lester’s diner. We started posting up on roof tops around the neighborhood, and sitting quietly in trucks out side all night. One night my dad’s foreman was posted up quietly in his truck a couple feet from the garage door. Around midnight he woke up to a guy trying to pry open the garage door handle, he started his truck and pinned the guy into the door. Did not call the cops until day break

 

[coolchange]

Where is he fencing this stuff? I think I’d be looking into that.

 

[NicPaus]

Where is he fencing this stuff? I think I’d be looking into that.

I know he has used and tried to use the stolen cards at a smoke shop on the corner of Western and pch. I went and talked to the owner when a local girls card was used 20 minutes before there. He stole her purse and diaper bag the night before. The shop owner told me he regularly goes there and uses multiple cards until 1 goes through. I asked what he was buying. He replied everything he can when they go through.

 

[evantwheeler]

I know he has used and tried to use the stolen cards at a smoke shop on the corner of Western and pch. I went and talked to the owner when a local girls card was used 20 minutes before there. He stole her purse and diaper bag the night before. The shop owner told me he regularly goes there and uses multiple cards until 1 goes through. I asked what he was buying. He replied everything he can when they go through.

So is the shop owner now going to be giving you a call when thief shows up to use stolen cards? I'd be getting a group of neighbors to go around shops known to support the criminals actions and let it be known that ya'll are keeping an eye on the neighborhood. Be a shame if the shop owners car tires start loosing air.

 

[NicPaus]

So is the shop owner now going to be giving you a call when thief shows up to use stolen cards? I'd be getting a group of neighbors to go around shops know to support the criminals actions and let it be known the ya'll are keeping an eye on the neighborhood. Be a shame if the shop owners car tires start loosing air.

Yes. Shop owner was very helpful. Said he would call me every time he sees him. Told me where he usually stays. I showed him the pics and he right away was like yeah he was just in here.

 

[Captain Dan]

I know he has used and tried to use the stolen cards at a smoke shop on the corner of Western and pch. I went and talked to the owner when a local girls card was used 20 minutes before there. He stole her purse and diaper bag the night before. The shop owner told me he regularly goes there and uses multiple cards until 1 goes through. I asked what he was buying. He replied everything he can when they go through.

The shop owner lets him rifle through stolen cards for a purchase until one goes through? He is part of the problem.

 

[rivermobster]

The shop owner lets him rifle through stolen cards for a purchase until one goes through? He is part of the problem.

X1000

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

I like the idea of relocating him after you catch him. Like dropping him off halfway between Long Beach and Catalina.

 

[NicPaus]

The shop owner lets him rifle through stolen cards for a purchase until one goes through? He is part of the problem.

For sure. He is a foreigner that just wants a sale. But when I explained to him what is going down he offered to call me.

The girl whose card was used that night. Tried to make a stolen identity case. But they wouldn't even go over there and check his cameras.

 

[NicPaus]

Looks like he is already out. Guess its up to us citizens to get it done.

I even made a post for all the victims to call this morning and follow up on there police reports to make sure something would be done.

 

[Waterjunky]

Growing up rural...... We will call this a bit of a "legend" just for the sake of conversation on a public forum.

Non descript truck, catch said perp and have a discussion with him about changing his ways - In the back of the truck - at about 35 MPH - on a gravel road. At the end of self improvement counseling session its time to leave - the truck.

Never heard of someone needing a second self improvement counseling session. My understanding of the the "legend" is its always, always worked the first time. Works on a whole range of topics - well according to "legend" anyway.

 

[4Waters]

Looks like he is already out. Guess its up to us citizens to get it done.

I even made a post for all the victims to call this morning and follow up on there police reports to make sure something would be done.

Looks like you guys should start posting about a posse going out tonight

 

[NicPaus]

Looks like you guys should start posting about a posse going out tonight

Waiting on the councilman response. I have been messaging him back and forth. Apparently several agencies were looking for him. He said they clearly had enough cases to stick him with a felony. He was surprised they already let him go.

 

[DILLIGAF]

What a nightmare forcing the citizens to step up and put themselves in harms way.

I would suggest handling it how the "hood" deems fit but keep it off social media.

Good luck

 

[Todd Mohr]

Tomorrows post should be- looks like the perp has left the area, no problems reported.

 

[rrrr]

They definitely hurt like a MF

Maybe you should stop breaking into cars.

 

[jonnyd]

It seems to me that one of the victims should be able to get a report of the arrest? I would try to find out his immigration status. At the very least call ICE and let them know of this person. I wouldn't wait for the local law enforcement to do it.

 

[Dettom]

You can do a citizens arrest, cops pretty much have to accept the arrest and I'm willing to bet they've already taken a bunch of paper on him already. You can use "reasonable" force to effect the arrest. I detest thieves.

 

[lbhsbz]

If you get him and beat the hell out of him .
No need to call the cops.
Just leave him for dead and be on your way .

This, keep some bottle rockets handy....after you shoot the fucker, light 'em off....then call 911 with a Karen voice and say someone is shooting of fireworks from that location. LE will ignore it, cuz everyonre shoots off fireworks and all the Karens think they're gunshots. Police your brass, turn the lights back out and go back to bed.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Tie him up and drop him off at the councilmans house,

 

[TimeBandit]

Sounds like you need to leave bags of fentanyl on the front seat of cars in the neighborhood.

He'll take care of himself.

 

[Dana757]

A friend’s ranch was getting hit by thieves. He caught some meth chic on his property. When he called the sheriff they warned him against false imprisonment. When they came out she was still there trying to justify her presence. They right away asked if she was held against her will. He said the only thing blocking her car and the open gate was the sheriff car. They let her go and didn’t even check her info.
Hopefully some of this changes with Prop 36 passing.

 

[PDQH2O]

Say this guy by some miracle, actually gets to court. Is there a prosecutor or judge left in CA willing to do their job to convict and send him to jail with a decent sentence? Deportation candidate? Might be why LEOs are not all that interested. The guy will likely be home having dinner before the cops are.

 

[poncho]

Growing up rural...... We will call this a bit of a "legend" just for the sake of conversation on a public forum.

Non descript truck, catch said perp and have a discussion with him about changing his ways - In the back of the truck - at about 35 MPH - on a gravel road. At the end of self improvement counseling session its time to leave - the truck.

Never heard of someone needing a second self improvement counseling session. My understanding of the the "legend" is its always, always worked the first time. Works on a whole range of topics - well according to "legend" anyway.

One of the things I miss growing up rural, community handled shit like this. Usually a knock at the door, if it was a teenager it would go "do something about your kid or we will"
More than once I heard he's staying at his Cousins for the summer

 

[NicPaus]

Say this guy by some miracle, actually gets to court. Is there a prosecutor or judge left in CA willing to do their job to convict and send him to jail with a decent sentence? Deportation candidate? Might be why LEOs are not all that interested. The guy will likely be home having dinner before the cops are.

I understand that. If they would just take the stolen e bike from him that would slow him down big time. On the ring app one poster says it's his brother's e bike that was stolen a few months ago. I asked him to please make a report.

Last night I saw my neighbor that had rang my doorbell on Christmas eve. Asked him why. This guy got into both his vehicles on camera at 615 pm. They had loaded presents to go bring to the grandkids and he took them all. He said he was out looking all night for him. I filled him in on what's going on. I have received a lot of messages now of people hunting him on there own.

One girl was out all night looking as he got her a few months back. She called sheriff at like 4 am and they no showed. Ended up being another tweeker on a bike searching cars.

 

[4Waters]

Say this guy by some miracle, actually gets to court. Is there a prosecutor or judge left in CA willing to do their job to convict and send him to jail with a decent sentence? Deportation candidate? Might be why LEOs are not all that interested. The guy will likely be home having dinner before the cops are.

This is the reason the cops aren't interested, on top of this the guy decides he doesn't want to comply and resists so the cops have to up their side and the guy dies of a heart attack while the cops are fighting with him but the powers that be want a narrative (sound familiar, St. George Floyd). Now the cops are looking at jail time, they would rather show up, drive around and go home. I get where they are coming and don't blame them one bit. We need a Republican governor and Republican mayor's and councilmen to help take the handcuffs off of the cops, I'm not saying a free for all just fairness.

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

This is starting to sound a lot like Mexico….the transformation has been taking place.

 

[PDQH2O]

I understand that. If they would just take the stolen e bike from him that would slow him down big time. On the ring app one poster says it's his brother's e bike that was stolen a few months ago. I asked him to please make a report.

I feel bad for you and your neighborhood. This stuff is out of control and completely inexcusable. You’re doing all you can as a citizen. Unfortunately, cops who are doing their job as best they can given their direction under the law ( and politics) sometimes take heat because their response is what the community sees. It certainly isn’t fair or right. I’m glad citizens like you are making noise and forcing the PD to take action. You are involved and inspiring others to do the same. That’s what it’ll take to move the pendulum. It just takes a long, long time. Keep it up.

 

[wishiknew]

I feel bad for you and your neighborhood. This stuff is out of control and completely inexcusable. You’re doing all you can as a citizen. Unfortunately, cops who are doing their job as best they can given their direction under the law ( and politics) sometimes take heat because their response is what the community sees. It certainly isn’t fair or right. I’m glad citizens like you are making noise and forcing the PD to take action. You are involved and inspiring others to do the same. That’s what it’ll take to move the pendulum. It just takes a long, long time. Keep it up.

Need to remember to stay safe desperate people do desperate things

 

[lbhsbz]

I feel bad for you and your neighborhood. This stuff is out of control and completely inexcusable. You’re doing all you can as a citizen. Unfortunately, cops who are doing their job as best they can given their direction under the law ( and politics) sometimes take heat because their response is what the community sees. It certainly isn’t fair or right. I’m glad citizens like you are making noise and forcing the PD to take action. You are involved and inspiring others to do the same. That’s what it’ll take to move the pendulum. It just takes a long, long time. Keep it up.

I posted a month ago or so about a hit and run I witnessed at 5:00AM in front of my house…dude hit a parked car, backed up and drove off. Took the cops 12 hours to show up, they took a report and left. The perp’s car is STILL parked about 2 blocks away, air bags blown and a pile of parking tickets under the wiper.

I see the guy whose car got hit a few times a week…nothing has come of it. PD hasn’t so much as followed up with him to get him a name of who owns the car that hit him.

If I do something about it…you can bet yore ass the PD will be here in force and take me in.

It’s not like Mexico, it’s worse than Mexico. At least in Mexico the cartels can handle shit and continue to go about their day.

Torrance PD used to be assholes that you’d avoid at all costs…now I guess they avoid you. Maybe the chief went out to dinner with the chief of LB PD and got some pointers.

It sucks.

 

[RiverDave]

You can do a citizens arrest, cops pretty much have to accept the arrest and I'm willing to bet they've already taken a bunch of paper on him already. You can use "reasonable" force to effect the arrest. I detest thieves.

DO NOT DO THIS!! Or you are going to be in a world of shit ranging from assault to kidnapping..

RD

 

[Backlash]

Say this guy by some miracle, actually gets to court. Is there a prosecutor or judge left in CA willing to do their job to convict and send him to jail with a decent sentence? Deportation candidate? Might be why LEOs are not all that interested. The guy will likely be home having dinner before the cops are.

To answer your questions, yes there are plenty of prosecutors and judges who dole out punishments appropriate for the offenses. Not every single one.....but majority do. Remember when that POS D.A. George Gascon was in office.......his disapproval rating among his own troops was something like 97%! He was not liked AT ALL! That alone tells you where the District Attorneys stand on his "No punishment" policies. Judges are in the same boat. Many current judges are former prosecutors and know what it's like. The pendulum is going to be swinging back in the correct direction now that Gascon is gone, watch and see.

As far as the deputies in Lomita.....I can't speak for them. I don't know anyone who works there and have only been to Lomita one time in my life. I do know a couple guys at Torrance PD and I will say this, they don't fuck around.

This problem should not fall on the members of the community. This is absolutely a problem that law enforcement personnel NEED to address. That's what they're there for and the reason people pay taxes. This is why some cities have contracts with the Sheriff's Department......to provide that service. This is also why many of these contract cities may not always be satisfied with the law enforcement presence on those communities. It's lacking at best.

 

[RiverDave]

Say this guy by some miracle, actually gets to court. Is there a prosecutor or judge left in CA willing to do their job to convict and send him to jail with a decent sentence? Deportation candidate? Might be why LEOs are not all that interested. The guy will likely be home having dinner before the cops are.

This makes zero sense to me.. they don’t prosecute so the cops aren’t interested?

The cops job is to enforce the laws and that’s where it ends. They aren’t judge or jury etc.

The cops should be doing their jobs.. PERIOD.

The fact that none of them are??

WHO’S STEALING MORE? This perp that is breaking into peoples cars? Or a whole group of people cashing sizable checks and benefits and not doing the work for the checks?

I would almost wonder if you couldn’t get a class action going against the city at this point? Taxation without representation??

RD

 

[lbhsbz]

This makes zero sense to me.. they don’t prosecute so the cops aren’t interested?

The cops job is to enforce the laws and that’s where it ends. They aren’t judge or jury etc.

The cops should be doing their jobs.. PERIOD.

The fact that none of them are??

WHO’S STEALING MORE? This perp that is breaking into peoples cars? Or a whole group of people cashing sizable checks and benefits and not doing the work for the checks?

I would almost wonder if you couldn’t get a class action going against the city at this point? Taxation without representation??

RD

The cops are tired of putting in the work and all of it being cancelled on the backend....so they just don't bother with it anymore. Why hunt someone down and arrest them if they're just gonna be let back out before the arresting officer finishes his paperwork?

I spoke with a LBPD cop that arrested the same guy 3 times in 1 day for grand theft auto. He gave up after the 3rd time.

 

[hallett21]

If you want to light a fire under the right jurisdiction use social media (I know you’re already doing that).

Can you post some photos of the dirt bag? RDP members could share a post or we can all make a post with this guys photos and a brief but direct description of what he’s been doing.

The big kicker will be tagging the police department, city council members, city, mayor, favorite local news anchor (this is huge).

 

[PDQH2O]

This makes zero sense to me.. they don’t prosecute so the cops aren’t interested?

The cops job is to enforce the laws and that’s where it ends. They aren’t judge or jury etc.

The cops should be doing their jobs.. PERIOD.

The fact that none of them are??

WHO’S STEALING MORE? This perp that is breaking into peoples cars? Or a whole group of people cashing sizable checks and benefits and not doing the work for the checks?

I would almost wonder if you couldn’t get a class action going against the city at this point? Taxation without representation??

RD

I don’t think I said “none“ of the cops do their job. If it comes accross that way, my apologies. In some cases though, cops do influence criminal cases, but they don’t make policy decisions. Their management do that. In the business world, it would be similar to risk vs. benefit analysis. My belief is that most cops are good, conscientious public servants that work hard for the public day in and day out. They should be praised but often are in a no-win situation between the public and the courts/correctional system. Do too good a job and they’re criticized for being too aggressive. Should they work their tail off to build a solid case that gains a conviction, too often the criminal sees little or no jail time.

Remember, it isn’t the police officers that decide which cases go to trial. That job goes to the DA, judge, and others. And even then, there is a line of others, including juries, between the arrest and the sentence. At each point, where would they direct their attention - at the crime, or where the most benefit can be realized?

Think about CA’s proposition 47 vs. prop 36. as ill conceived as it was, 47 changed definitions of certain crimes, downgraded penalties, etc. crimes exploded and criminals laughed at the justice system. CA tightened its downward spiral. Prop 36 came about and passed notwithstanding heavy political pressure, because the citizens had enough suffering under the prior law(47). Now that’s a good thing and I hope the good people of CA can continue the progress.

Class action? That’s an interesting idea.

 

[boatnam2]

They kicked a bunch of people out of riverbed off Stearns and Palo Verde month or so ago, they all had new electric bikes and enough shit to fill a 4 bedroom house.

 

[Dettom]

They kicked a bunch of people out of riverbed off Stearns and Palo Verde month or so ago, they all had new electric bikes and enough shit to fill a 4 bedroom house.

Every single homeless person is a thief. The media portrays them all as victims, don't be fooled.

 

[4Waters]

You can do a citizens arrest, cops pretty much have to accept the arrest and I'm willing to bet they've already taken a bunch of paper on him already. You can use "reasonable" force to effect the arrest. I detest thieves.

This is a slippery slope especially in California, you better be on the up and up on how to properly do it to the "T" not the "t" or else you will be in cuffs.

 

[NicPaus]

This is Lomita not TPD. Although my Mom is in Torrance. But this guy barely hits the edge of Torrance. DJUNKIE Rvrrun and a few others that lurk here live within blocks. TPD has been cruising the area and pulled one of the guys over that was out hunting for the lomita thief. TPD don't fuck around and the home prices reflect that. Problem is this guy is quick. Hits Torrance and in minutes is back in lomita. There a small pocket of Torrance that is easy to get out of quickly and he knows it.

From the inside info I have got. There is currently a group of home burglars hitting the hill regularly. Lomita is subcontracted for the area. They are paying OT to have extra patrols on the hill. Leaving 1 in Lomita and sometimes none. One local officer posted but did not state what dept. He said he is the only one looking for this guy and currently understaffed.

I can accept that. It is what it is. But everytime someone calls they say there is no problem and if there were reports they would make a arrest. Well there have been many reports and it has only gotten worse. The detective on the case days he knows the guy and where he stays. But replies there is no reports and people must call. But they don't respond or show up.

So now the citizens will take matters into there own hands. It's a problem that needs to be fixed. If the DA is just going to drop charges I am not trying to waste the officers time either. If there shirt staffed. No problem. Just let the citizens know what's going on.

I have 6-10 now that have messaged me and want me to lead them to this guy. He is easy to find. And doesn't even try and hide. He has got way to comfortable.